discountdoublecheck said:
His highlight reel looks a lot like Duron Carter's did. Obviously this is because they both played in the CFL. But he is playing on a huge field and getting a running start before the snap. He is tall and athletic and that seems to be all it takes to put up numbers in the CFL. Chip drafted Agholor for his system, how'd that go for fantasy? What has D. Carter done? I don't expect much from Rogers in the NFL.
Agholor looked like a rook- a don't evaluate me yet, I'm not quite ready to produce type rook. Lots do, it's neither good nor bad.
All ya have to do is be tall and athletic could be said as what ya need in the NFL. Cmon that's a weak sentiment. Julio, AJ, Calvin...tons were tall and athletic.
First of all both their contracts are similar to UDFAs so that's where they are for me mentally to offer some perspective.
Duron Carter did not go to a WR needy team. I don't think he had a chance with the Colts. They are deep at WR.
Rogers is going to a team that loses Boldin in free agency and has a slew of question marks. They will be adding a WR in FA or the draft-they just sort of have to. Maybe this new guy fills a spot, but still Rogers has a chance.
The CFL has produced plenty of WRs and most of them do not make the NFL. Same with the arena league.
I think Joe Horn or Orande of the Fins years ago was probably the best one.
The last ten years or so, there's been no NFLEurope so CFL is the minor league and the talent coming from there is better.
The arena league looks fun to play in. Have you seen a game? Ya gotta have some nice hands to have some success there. I always have to re-learn the rules with the out of bounds wall and ...it's a little different. Maybe this is another minor league.
Rogers did well in both minor leagues. Every guy that does well in class A, AA, and AAA doesn't always have success in the MLB but it is usually a sign that they will if they succeed in each level of minor league play. This is what most Rogers fans are thinking-not he's a lock but his is the next step and he can probably be productive.
The Chiefs had two guys I love to watch-Frankie Hammond Jr and Fred Williams. Hammond went to Missouri-somethingorother not some big famous school. He spent all this time on the PS for two years. He earned the title "Mr. Reliable" for his outstanding practice play. Williams is from the Arena league where he excelled. Both did very well in preseason, including their QB Chase Daniel. I think me and Chase's family are about his only fans but I really like that guy.. I feel like he's matured over the years on the SL and is finally a good NFL QB.
Bad draft grades, small school, arena league, whatever...going against these guys and they made it- they play in the NFL on teams.
This doesn't account for jack in FF.
I don't like Conley yet (think he needs seasoning, experience) and Wilson is very slot-like and limited. DeAnthony Thomas LOOKS like an excellent RB and I have no idea why Reid has to have a RB play WR, maybe too much depth but the guys got jets like few others in the NFL; if you watch him play he's got that video game burst. As a WR he is limited. Alex Smith is bleh, never cared for him.
So the three guys I mentioned should be able to contribute and play. They produce when those guys don't, right?
Nope-if you watched preseason Williams, Hammond Jr, and Daniel almost never got time with the ones.
As the season wore on Williams would be on the PS, off the PS over n over. Hammond would finally get in late in the year and had about a catch a game. Smith was never pulled for Daniel to get a shot.
It's frustrating for dynasty- they know how to get open, they catch everything and weak players ahead of them but we don't see what Reid sees in practice.
Rogers' first step will be to play with the ones, produce in preseason and show he's of some value to the 49ers. Unless you see him play with the ones I wouldn't raise him from anything more than a "shot in the dark" type player. We say opportunity and it does look good now, but that's why I brought up the Chiefs guys- he's still gotta get in with the ones. Playing well on 2nd team in preseason only gets you on the practice squad. Clearly being Mr. Reliable didn't help Hammond Jr. either. I think Daniel led the NFL or was near the top in preseason passing yards-didn't matter it's with 2nd team.
Williams and Hammond are not throughbreds. They don't have elite size or speed. They aren't a "physical specimen." Sometimes having this quality will get ya an extra look from a coach. Rogers has that going for him.
Right now we're just at this "drink it in" point where we consider where a guy is and what his potential might be. Rogers has a steep uphill climb, but it does appear he picked the right team.
Here's a hammond and williams article
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article31433690.html
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article1266607.html
