Thanks for the information much appreciated.He's Peppers backup at RE right now. What's going to happen to Peppers is something to watch this offseason though. Everette Brown has a very quick first step, but he is a bit on the light side. He might not be effective enough against the run for every-down at this point in his career. Saying that, I like Brown in dynasty leagues. You can't teach quicks, so I like his sack-potential. He'll get bigger over time too. Brown was good enough to get decent playing time as a rookie. CAR gave up their 2010 1st to select him at #43. I like his future![]()
This is an interesting point, but that's a list of offensive studs, not defensive ones. Does that necessarily correlate? In general, being small is more advantageous to the person trying to avoid tackles, rather than the person trying to make tackles. I'd be curious what names we could come up with for stud defensive small guys other than Dumervil and Harrison.Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:MJDRay RiceChris JohnsonDesean JacksonPercy HarvinJamaal CharlesDevin HesterFelix JonesEddie RoyalI'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field.
Dwight FreeneyLondon FletcherThis is an interesting point, but that's a list of offensive studs, not defensive ones. Does that necessarily correlate? In general, being small is more advantageous to the person trying to avoid tackles, rather than the person trying to make tackles. I'd be curious what names we could come up with for stud defensive small guys other than Dumervil and Harrison.Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:
MJD
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Desean Jackson
Percy Harvin
Jamaal Charles
Devin Hester
Felix Jones
Eddie Royal
I'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field.
All great points, Captain Placeholder. The leverage and lower center of gravity that a smaller player is perhaps his greatest strength. If Dwight Freeney/Elvis Dumervil and so on didn't have that lack of ideal height, they would not be as effective as football players. No question about it in my mind. Too much stock is put in the ideal measurables of players and not enough into their actual abilities. Teams should always look on the bright side of a particular perceived lack of something, if that makes sense.Dwight FreeneyLondon FletcherThis is an interesting point, but that's a list of offensive studs, not defensive ones. Does that necessarily correlate? In general, being small is more advantageous to the person trying to avoid tackles, rather than the person trying to make tackles. I'd be curious what names we could come up with for stud defensive small guys other than Dumervil and Harrison.Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:
MJD
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Desean Jackson
Percy Harvin
Jamaal Charles
Devin Hester
Felix Jones
Eddie Royal
I'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field.
Lofa Tatupu
Smaller guys have more compact bodies and lower centers of gravity. This often can help coordination and initial quickness/burst. I'd also figure that in the case of guys like Fletcher and Tatupu, it forces them to have better tackling form by not only hitting but wrapping up because they know that they're not big enough to just rely upon hitting. I know that Fletcher is one of the best tacklers in the game in terms of pure form.
Great, so much for trying to get him off you in Red Dog. Dude is a stud. Buy now!Also....wtf is that about your wife and size!?James Harrison = 6'/242Elvis Dumervil = 5'11"/260Everette Brown = 6'2"/256Brandon Graham = 6'1"/263Hopefully teams are figuring out that, as my wife always says, "size isn't as important as performance".Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:MJDRay RiceChris JohnsonDesean JacksonPercy HarvinJamaal CharlesDevin HesterFelix JonesEddie RoyalI'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field. If John Fox does that, Brown just might be a stud in the making. FSU is known for producing stud D-linemen.
Not sure if you could have gotten him from me any way...I'm an FSU fan as well.As far as my wife's comments...it's a long, errrr I mean short story.Great, so much for trying to get him off you in Red Dog. Dude is a stud. Buy now!Also....wtf is that about your wife and size!?James Harrison = 6'/242Elvis Dumervil = 5'11"/260Everette Brown = 6'2"/256Brandon Graham = 6'1"/263Hopefully teams are figuring out that, as my wife always says, "size isn't as important as performance".Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:MJDRay RiceChris JohnsonDesean JacksonPercy HarvinJamaal CharlesDevin HesterFelix JonesEddie RoyalI'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field. If John Fox does that, Brown just might be a stud in the making. FSU is known for producing stud D-linemen.
Excellent examples. I think you're onto something with their compact body shape. This would be similar to the "he's small, but has thick legs" mindset of a number of the smaller RBs, like Rice and MJD as mentioned.Dwight FreeneyLondon FletcherThis is an interesting point, but that's a list of offensive studs, not defensive ones. Does that necessarily correlate? In general, being small is more advantageous to the person trying to avoid tackles, rather than the person trying to make tackles. I'd be curious what names we could come up with for stud defensive small guys other than Dumervil and Harrison.Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:
MJD
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Desean Jackson
Percy Harvin
Jamaal Charles
Devin Hester
Felix Jones
Eddie Royal
I'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field.
Lofa Tatupu
Smaller guys have more compact bodies and lower centers of gravity. This often can help coordination and initial quickness/burst. I'd also figure that in the case of guys like Fletcher and Tatupu, it forces them to have better tackling form by not only hitting but wrapping up because they know that they're not big enough to just rely upon hitting. I know that Fletcher is one of the best tacklers in the game in terms of pure form.
By the way after all this discussion I did get E Brown in a trade. I also have Pepper and hope he gets traded. Then I may be in great shape at DE. 32 team league so just having a starter can be hard to come by especially at DE.lyon812 said:Excellent examples. I think you're onto something with their compact body shape. This would be similar to the "he's small, but has thick legs" mindset of a number of the smaller RBs, like Rice and MJD as mentioned.Dwight FreeneyLondon FletcherThis is an interesting point, but that's a list of offensive studs, not defensive ones. Does that necessarily correlate? In general, being small is more advantageous to the person trying to avoid tackles, rather than the person trying to make tackles. I'd be curious what names we could come up with for stud defensive small guys other than Dumervil and Harrison.Look at all the "small" guys in the NFL now that are studs:
MJD
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Desean Jackson
Percy Harvin
Jamaal Charles
Devin Hester
Felix Jones
Eddie Royal
I'm just saying that I'm hoping NFL teams are starting to look beyond the size factor and look at production on the field.
Lofa Tatupu
Smaller guys have more compact bodies and lower centers of gravity. This often can help coordination and initial quickness/burst. I'd also figure that in the case of guys like Fletcher and Tatupu, it forces them to have better tackling form by not only hitting but wrapping up because they know that they're not big enough to just rely upon hitting. I know that Fletcher is one of the best tacklers in the game in terms of pure form.