tbbucs4eva
Footballguy
Who these guys are on each team. If it's too complex don't worry about it, I'll just dig somemore. Was just wondering if anyone can point me to that info.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
EDIT: This first post was "third down backers" only. These are the players who should see time in the nickel. I edited and re-posted an "every down backer" list a little further down.
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott (Johnson may play a hybrid end role on third down)
Buffalo: Crowell, Ellison (Pos still second teamer but could push Ellison at some point)
Cincinnati: Johnson, Brooks
Cleveland: Davis, Wimbley, Peek/McGinest rotationally
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (Barber could steal some snaps from Greenwood)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder may start to eat into Thomas' nickel time)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin (maybe Bruschi or Seau at times also)
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson (sometimes Bowens)
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior, whomever wins the OLB jobs
San Diego: Wilhelm, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Okeafor (Hayes, Berry often but package dependent)
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware (most often Spencer and Carpenter or Burnett)
Detroit: Sims, probably Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau (for now; Simmons may work his way back)
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka (Mitchell will see time depending on how Kiwi aligns)
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson (Banta-Cain, Moore could see time depending on package)
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson (Hill will see some snaps at times)
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh (possibly Marshall for McIntosh, Washington at end)
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott (Johnson may play a hybrid end role on third down)
Buffalo: Crowell, Ellison (Pos still second teamer but could push Ellison at some point)
Cincinnati: Johnson, Brooks
Cleveland: Davis, Wimbley, Peek/McGinest rotationally
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (Barber could steal some snaps from Greenwood)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder may start to eat into Thomas' nickel time)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin (maybe Bruschi or Seau at times also)
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson (sometimes Bowens)
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior, whomever wins the OLB jobs
San Diego: Wilhelm, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Okeafor (Hayes, Berry often but package dependent)
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware (most often Spencer and Carpenter or Burnett)
Detroit: Sims, probably Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau (for now; Simmons may work his way back)
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka (Mitchell will see time depending on how Kiwi aligns)
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson (Banta-Cain, Moore could see time depending on package)
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson (Hill will see some snaps at times)
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh (possibly Marshall for McIntosh, Washington at end)
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tbbucs4eva
Footballguy
thanks for the info, very helpful
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I'm going to try to find where I saw this, but I believe LB Alex Lewis is going to play in passing situations for the Lions. I'll also watch their game Thursday to follow up.
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
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Gaither will most likely be playing in the nickle but he isnt the starter Yet.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
and when i looked i saw "3 down linebackers" so its my bad but I have a sneaky suspicion thats what the OP is looking for
DenverBroncos
Footballguy
Please do. I'm pretty sure he wanted to know what LB's will be on the field at all time for fantasy purposes. .
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
All righty then. Every down backers only this time. I guess it's actually not that much shorter.
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Ellison
Cincinnati: Brooks (possibly Johnson)
Cleveland: Davis, Wimbley
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Wilhelm, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Okeafor (Hayes and Berry could see time)
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware
Detroit: Sims, probably Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka
Philadelphia: Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher (Washington at end)
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Ellison
Cincinnati: Brooks (possibly Johnson)
Cleveland: Davis, Wimbley
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Wilhelm, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Okeafor (Hayes and Berry could see time)
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware
Detroit: Sims, probably Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka
Philadelphia: Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher (Washington at end)
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The_Hunchback
Footballguy
Gamebook said Nece and Brooks I believe.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
In tonights Chiefs-Browns game, Leon Williams replaced Andra Davis on 3rd downs, and D'Qwell Jackson stayed in.
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bcr8f
Footballguy
Fletcher/McIntosh at LB and Washington at LDE pretty consistently. Barnett/Hawk.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
IIRC Ruud wasn't playing in that game.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Posted this in the TB specific thread, but Gruden was quoted as saying that he limited the PT of many veterans by design last weekend and mentioned June specifically by name. Not a guarantee that June will play in the nickel over Ruud but it's a reasonable explanation for Nece over June in the preseason game.
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Still getting caught up from last weekend. Trying to clear the DVR for this weekend... 
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A few notes from the Bills-Saints game:
It appears that Buffalo will not use a right-left alignment this year. Keith Ellison and Angelo Crowell were shifting with the offensive formation. Ellison WLB, Crowell SLB. The Bills did use some base defense against the Saints 3 WR sets, but when they used five defensive backs, it was John DiGiorgio, not Ellison, with Crowell. Given some of the rate stats I've seen and the offseason reports about Ellison in coverage, that was surprising. Also bodes well for Paul Posluszny, who played in the nickel with the twos and alleviated any concerns I had about not being athletic enough to get back into the deep zone. While it's possible the coaches were evaluating DiGiorgio, I think expectations should be tempered accordingly.
New Orleans was without Scott Fujita, so this may all be moot. But Roman Harper played an in-the-box role in the Saint nickel package. Mark Simoneau was the only backer on the field. Harper may not bump Simoneau from the nickel package when Fujita returns, but if Bullocks and Kaesviharn impress the Saints could use a lot of a dime/Big Nickel hybrid on passing downs. It also means that there's no chance of seeing Scott Shanle in the nickel defense. On a side note, Harper looked fully healthy. He was taking on and shedding blocks well and will be used similar to the first month of 2006 -- he came on at least one blitz and was dropped down in the box frequently in the base defense.
.A few notes from the Bills-Saints game:
It appears that Buffalo will not use a right-left alignment this year. Keith Ellison and Angelo Crowell were shifting with the offensive formation. Ellison WLB, Crowell SLB. The Bills did use some base defense against the Saints 3 WR sets, but when they used five defensive backs, it was John DiGiorgio, not Ellison, with Crowell. Given some of the rate stats I've seen and the offseason reports about Ellison in coverage, that was surprising. Also bodes well for Paul Posluszny, who played in the nickel with the twos and alleviated any concerns I had about not being athletic enough to get back into the deep zone. While it's possible the coaches were evaluating DiGiorgio, I think expectations should be tempered accordingly.
New Orleans was without Scott Fujita, so this may all be moot. But Roman Harper played an in-the-box role in the Saint nickel package. Mark Simoneau was the only backer on the field. Harper may not bump Simoneau from the nickel package when Fujita returns, but if Bullocks and Kaesviharn impress the Saints could use a lot of a dime/Big Nickel hybrid on passing downs. It also means that there's no chance of seeing Scott Shanle in the nickel defense. On a side note, Harper looked fully healthy. He was taking on and shedding blocks well and will be used similar to the first month of 2006 -- he came on at least one blitz and was dropped down in the box frequently in the base defense.
Toads
Footballguy
That part about "...not bumping Simoneau" is interesting. This means that it's Simoneau and Roman Harper in the package as 3-down backers....unless Fujita returns in which case Fujita MAY replace Roman Harper.What's the probability of Fujita returning and not replacing Roman Harper? That still has to play it's self out but it's a distinct possiblity because it's a better pattern for defending the pass. It's also a better pattern for options on the blitz or for specialized coverages.....say Harper on a motioned receiver and coming on the blitz as the ball snaps, etc.Still getting caught up from last weekend. Trying to clear the DVR for this weekend....
A few notes from the Bills-Saints game:
It appears that Buffalo will not use a right-left alignment this year. Keith Ellison and Angelo Crowell were shifting with the offensive formation. Ellison WLB, Crowell SLB. The Bills did use some base defense against the Saints 3 WR sets, but when they used five defensive backs, it was John DiGiorgio, not Ellison, with Crowell. Given some of the rate stats I've seen and the offseason reports about Ellison in coverage, that was surprising. Also bodes well for Paul Posluszny, who played in the nickel with the twos and alleviated any concerns I had about not being athletic enough to get back into the deep zone. While it's possible the coaches were evaluating DiGiorgio, I think expectations should be tempered accordingly.
New Orleans was without Scott Fujita, so this may all be moot. But Roman Harper played an in-the-box role in the Saint nickel package. Mark Simoneau was the only backer on the field. Harper may not bump Simoneau from the nickel package when Fujita returns, but if Bullocks and Kaesviharn impress the Saints could use a lot of a dime/Big Nickel hybrid on passing downs. It also means that there's no chance of seeing Scott Shanle in the nickel defense. On a side note, Harper looked fully healthy. He was taking on and shedding blocks well and will be used similar to the first month of 2006 -- he came on at least one blitz and was dropped down in the box frequently in the base defense.
The result is that Simoneau get's a definite up-tick and Roman Harper looks to probably be in a good position for 3-down status.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Actually, what I meant with that note was that Fujita will play in the nickel and it'll be very interesting to see whether Harper (over Simoneau) stays in the box when he returns. To me, it's a Kaesviharn (or Bullocks)as a third safety -- big nickel thing vs Simoneau -- traditional nickel discussion. I wouldn't bump Simoneau at all.Magic Desert Toads said:That part about "...not bumping Simoneau" is interesting. This means that it's Simoneau and Roman Harper in the package as 3-down backers....unless Fujita returns in which case Fujita MAY replace Roman Harper.What's the probability of Fujita returning and not replacing Roman Harper? That still has to play it's self out but it's a distinct possiblity because it's a better pattern for defending the pass. It's also a better pattern for options on the blitz or for specialized coverages.....say Harper on a motioned receiver and coming on the blitz as the ball snaps, etc.Still getting caught up from last weekend. Trying to clear the DVR for this weekend....
A few notes from the Bills-Saints game:
It appears that Buffalo will not use a right-left alignment this year. Keith Ellison and Angelo Crowell were shifting with the offensive formation. Ellison WLB, Crowell SLB. The Bills did use some base defense against the Saints 3 WR sets, but when they used five defensive backs, it was John DiGiorgio, not Ellison, with Crowell. Given some of the rate stats I've seen and the offseason reports about Ellison in coverage, that was surprising. Also bodes well for Paul Posluszny, who played in the nickel with the twos and alleviated any concerns I had about not being athletic enough to get back into the deep zone. While it's possible the coaches were evaluating DiGiorgio, I think expectations should be tempered accordingly.
New Orleans was without Scott Fujita, so this may all be moot. But Roman Harper played an in-the-box role in the Saint nickel package. Mark Simoneau was the only backer on the field. Harper may not bump Simoneau from the nickel package when Fujita returns, but if Bullocks and Kaesviharn impress the Saints could use a lot of a dime/Big Nickel hybrid on passing downs. It also means that there's no chance of seeing Scott Shanle in the nickel defense. On a side note, Harper looked fully healthy. He was taking on and shedding blocks well and will be used similar to the first month of 2006 -- he came on at least one blitz and was dropped down in the box frequently in the base defense.
The result is that Simoneau get's a definite up-tick and Roman Harper looks to probably be in a good position for 3-down status.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I just can't imagine Simoneau playing in the nickel.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
This was questionable speculation at best in May. Harris hasn't played a snap with the nickel package in either preseason game.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
NICKEL BACKERS ONLY (updated)
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott (Johnson may play a hybrid end role on third down)
Buffalo: Crowell, likely Poz at this point
Cincinnati: Johnson, Miller
Cleveland: Williams, Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (Barber could steal some snaps from Greenwood)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder may start to eat into Thomas' nickel time)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin (maybe Bruschi or Seau at times also)
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson (sometimes Bowens)
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior, whomever wins the OLB jobs
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware (most often Spencer and Carpenter or Burnett)
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau (for now; Simmons may work his way back)
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka (Mitchell will see time depending on how Kiwi aligns)
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore, Banta-Cain
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson (Hill will see some snaps at times)
Tampa Bay: Brooks, ?June?
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh (possibly Marshall for McIntosh, Washington at end)
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott (Johnson may play a hybrid end role on third down)
Buffalo: Crowell, likely Poz at this point
Cincinnati: Johnson, Miller
Cleveland: Williams, Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (Barber could steal some snaps from Greenwood)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder may start to eat into Thomas' nickel time)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin (maybe Bruschi or Seau at times also)
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson (sometimes Bowens)
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior, whomever wins the OLB jobs
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware (most often Spencer and Carpenter or Burnett)
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau (for now; Simmons may work his way back)
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka (Mitchell will see time depending on how Kiwi aligns)
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore, Banta-Cain
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson (Hill will see some snaps at times)
Tampa Bay: Brooks, ?June?
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh (possibly Marshall for McIntosh, Washington at end)
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
EVERY DOWN BACKERS
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Posluszny
Cincinnati: Johnson
Cleveland: Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware, Spencer
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka
Philadelphia: Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington
Disclaimer: My speculations only, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Posluszny
Cincinnati: Johnson
Cleveland: Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: Ware, Spencer
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka
Philadelphia: Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, June
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
Jene-
In passing situations, I'm fairly certain Kawika Mitchell stays on the field alongside Pierce, while Kiwanuka is moved from SLB to DE.
link:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=256085
The move of Mathias Kiwanuka to strongside linebacker does not mean he will never line up with his hand on the ground. Kiwanuka is being used at left defensive end in the nickel package, a spot where his pass-rush skills (he is Boston College's career sack leader) will be utilized. If Michael Strahan decides not to retire, the Giants believe they will be able to put three prime-time pass-rushers on the field in the nickel in Kiwanuka, Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. In the base defense, Kiwanuka remains the strongside linebacker, where he is adjusting to the coverage assignments he did not have as a rookie end. ...
In passing situations, I'm fairly certain Kawika Mitchell stays on the field alongside Pierce, while Kiwanuka is moved from SLB to DE.
link:
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=256085
The move of Mathias Kiwanuka to strongside linebacker does not mean he will never line up with his hand on the ground. Kiwanuka is being used at left defensive end in the nickel package, a spot where his pass-rush skills (he is Boston College's career sack leader) will be utilized. If Michael Strahan decides not to retire, the Giants believe they will be able to put three prime-time pass-rushers on the field in the nickel in Kiwanuka, Strahan and Osi Umenyiora. In the base defense, Kiwanuka remains the strongside linebacker, where he is adjusting to the coverage assignments he did not have as a rookie end. ...
Weiner Dog
Footballguy
I was also under the impression Ellison (BUF) was playing in the nickle, as opposed to Poz. Has something changed??
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
So far, this week too.Rozelle said:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Thanks, an oversight on my part. I'm pretty sure Tuck will move inside on passing downs if Strahan returns.Weiner Dog said:
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
From my observations from the Bills' Week 1 preseason game earlier in the thread.Weiner Dog said:
Poz looked good in the nickel with the ones (which included Ellison since Crowell was out) this week. Good enough that I think he could stay in the nickel. Since DiGiorgio played in the nickel over Ellison in the first preseason game, I'm keeping the alignment pretty much the same. Hopefully the Bills LBs will be healthy, with Poz on the first team, so we can see what'll happen.Still getting caught up from last weekend. Trying to clear the DVR for this weekend...
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
With the release of Marshall, McIntosh should be a lock for nickel duty.After this weekends game, Jason La Confora had this to say about McIntosh:
Link
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Oops, I need to stop updating both posts.Every down backers only now. I'll update the thread title, too.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
EVERY DOWN BACKERS
Disclaimer: Mostly my speculations, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Posluszny
Cincinnati: Johnson
Cleveland: Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: James, Ware, Spencer
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka, Mitchell
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, Ruud
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington
Disclaimer: Mostly my speculations, corrections welcome. The 3-4 teams, particularly the hybrids, are situation/package dependent.
Baltimore: Lewis, Scott
Buffalo: Crowell, Posluszny
Cincinnati: Johnson
Cleveland: Jackson, Wimbley, Peek
Denver: Williams, Gold
Houston: Ryans, Greenwood (could lose snaps to Barber)
Indianapolis: Brackett, Keiaho
Jacksonville: Peterson, Smith
Kansas City: Edwards, Johnson
Miami: Thomas, Porter (Crowder could take a few nickel snaps)
New England: Vrabel, Thomas, Colvin
New York Jets: Vilma, Thomas, Hobson
Oakland: Morrison, Howard
Pittsburgh: Farrior
San Diego: Cooper, Merriman, Phillips
Tennessee: Bulluck, Thornton
Arizona: Dansby, Hayes, Berry
Atlanta: Brooking, Williams (Boley at end on some third downs)
Carolina: Morgan, Davis
Chicago: Urlacher, Briggs
Dallas: James, Ware, Spencer
Detroit: Sims, Lenon
Green Bay: Hawk, Barnett
Minnesota: Henderson, Greenway
New Orleans: Fujita, Simoneau
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka, Mitchell
Philadelphia: Gaither, Spikes
St. Louis: Witherspoon, Tinoisamoa
San Francisco: Willis, Lawson, Moore
Seattle: Tatupu, Peterson
Tampa Bay: Brooks, Ruud
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Washington: Fletcher, McIntosh, Washington
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka, Mitchell
Who comes out in the nickel? Someone has to as these are 4-3s.
New York Giants: Pierce, Kiwanuka, Mitchell
Who comes out in the nickel? Someone has to as these are 4-3s.
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Jene Bramel
Footballguy
It appears that both Washington and Kiwanuka will get DE snaps in the majority of nickel packages.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
By all accounts Marcus Washington will play DE on obvious passing downs a good bit.
Toads
Footballguy
Simoneau has been drawing rave reviews.Stranger things have happened.
As of today, he's still listed as populating the field for three-downs.
pretender
Footballguy
Has he been staying on the field all the time - keep missing the preseason games.?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
I haven't seen the team with my own eyes. I'm relying on the worthy observations of Rozelle and others. Nothing at the Pewter Report last time I checked. And I won't get the Bucs DVRed this week either. It's the most important week for scouting, so hopefully the collective weight of the board and the beat writers will be on the ball. This situation and the Buffalo situation need close monitoring this weekend.
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John Black
Footballguy
Will Beason eventually become a 3 down back? How will he score on the weak-side vs mlb?
The Gator
Footballguy
Heard on NFL radio today that Ellison has a real good chance to replace him on 3rd down. Take it for what it's worth.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Thanks. As noted above, this battle is one of the two most important nickel situations to watch this weekend. Thankfully, we've got plenty of Buffalo homers to give us the inside scoop. You're on notice Bills fans.The Gator said:Heard on NFL radio today that Ellison has a real good chance to replace him on 3rd down. Take it for what it's worth.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
watching the dallas-houston game on nfln replay this morning, bradie james has stayed on the field all/ or near all game. i've double checked anytime i've seen bobby carpenter or kevin burnett on the field i've used the DVR to go back and see if james was on the field. i've seen burnet come in for akin and carpenter come in for spencer more times than not. james has stayed on the field and has played fairly well. can't say that i've seen him in heavy coverage- he's played his zone ok. he wrapped up the TE(daniels) immediately but didn't breakup any that i've seen while he was in during 1st half.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Yep, Wade Phillips said mid-week that his current plan was to keep James in the nickel package. He's been hit and miss in the games I've seen, but his value is rising again. We'll see if he can finally take advantage in the new scheme.ninerfanatic492000 said:
Afro Samurai
Footballguy
FWIW Brian Simmons is now running with the Saints 1st team. I couldn't tell if he was playing nickel because of the crappy local broadcast though.
Tenacious
Footballguy
If Simmons is in, Simoneau is out, correct?
