kutta
Footballguy
Who else are you going to draft in round 14? Why not grab the guy, see if he starts week 1, then try to trade him? It's better than picking up LaFell or Hankerson and hoping they can become a WR 4 at some point this year.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
I love him this year. Have him two of the four leagues I am in. He was even cheaper in a dynasty. I traded AJ Jenkins plus a 2013 2nd rounder.
solorca
Footballguy
I'm going to repeat this one, because I am still seeing him going way too late. Stevie Johnson is a huge value in the 5th or 6th round range where he is going.
- He's the number one receiving option, by a large margin, on his team.
- He's fairly matchup proof, because he is able to still get his points even with tough CB's (he's about the only person in the league that seems to be able to preform against Revis)
- Barring injury, he's pretty much guaranteed a season of 1000/7 at a minimum.
I don't understand why people aren't pouncing on him in drafts, but I'm loving him as a WR3 (or in one case where I went WR heavy, WR4) in a PPR league.
- He's the number one receiving option, by a large margin, on his team.
- He's fairly matchup proof, because he is able to still get his points even with tough CB's (he's about the only person in the league that seems to be able to preform against Revis)
- Barring injury, he's pretty much guaranteed a season of 1000/7 at a minimum.
I don't understand why people aren't pouncing on him in drafts, but I'm loving him as a WR3 (or in one case where I went WR heavy, WR4) in a PPR league.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
He was drafted WR22 in our FBG staff league after ranking 19th. In the drafts I have been in, he doesn't seem to fall very far and is going around where he should be . . .
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
How many drafts you doing this year?
I agree that he's value in the 6th and I'd be happy to have him on my team there - can't argue with a guy that put up 76/1004/7 while injured for most of the season. But he appears to lack the upside of guys going right around him. Non-PPR ADP has the 19th-29th WRs as follows:Lloyd - huge upside in the TD department especiallyBrown - great year last year, has head start on Wallace in new system which suits Brown's game moreBowe - Similar to Stevie when Cassel is the QB, but more yprMaclin - another guy I see as Stevie-esqueStevieAustin - injury scare with top 5 upsideDeSean - meh, avoidDecker - talented but in an unknown situation, gotta love the upsideT.Smith - looks primed for a huge seasonWayne - much like Stevie but just slightly lower floor, but new situation gives hope beyond the likely 75/950/6 seasonI can't imagine any of these guys busting without an injury to blame, but I also can't justify reaching for any of them given they all have a favorable pros/cons balance. I like most of them just about as much if not more than Jennings, Welker, White, Cruz, Nelson, Bryant, Colston, Wallace, VJax, Demaryius... Those guys all have their question marks.
tombonneau
Footballguy
Really love Simpson as an NFL player not sure how much of a fantasy impact he'll make, really all depends on Ponder's progress. But he was a really underrated pickup. Shame he went to Vikings, would have been a perfect complement to AJ in Houston who has been desperate for a legit WR2 for years.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Collie practiced and full and is expected to start and play in wk 1.
Resume the sleeper alert.
Resume the sleeper alert.
12punch
Footballguy
I don't have a crystal ball, but I took simpson late in all my leagues.the guy is a 2nd rounder who was buried until the end of 2010 when he actually got to start the last 2 weeks because TO and ocho were hurt, or something like that.he pulled down 6/124/2 on 7 targets, and 12/123/1 on 14 targets in a year where palmer averaged 6.8 ypa, which is not too exciting.last year, they took aj with teh 4th pick, and they had a rookie qb who looked for him 127 times in 16 games (playoff inc), which once again put simpson on the back burner.in the one game aj didn't play, simpson was the guy --- hauling in 8/152 on 13 targets.simpson has come up big when he was teh guy downfield, and while harvin may be a bit of a target hog, I don't think he's on the field every play, and he's more of an underneath threat, I think -- also, he may have been a target hog in the past because they didn't have another quality wr like simpson.it's true, ponder might not have looked like palmer or dalton, but he was kind of thrown in there last year, and supposedly he has a much better grasp of the offense, and also a better left tackle.he put up some duds, but did manage 29/47 for 381/3 (8.1 ypa) against denver, even if 100 yds of that was all harvin on a couple big plays.for all the hype dalton got, his comp % was on;y 58% to ponder's 55%, in a much better situation in cincy, while putting up a fairly pedestrian 6.6 ypa to ponder's 6.4, and ponder had a hip pointer some of those games.edit: if you want a bold prediction, I think simpson could be a top 15 wr that you can probably get in round 13.oops....3 game suspension probably knocks him out of top 15 contention, but should still be strong in ppg
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Borden
Footballguy
Didn't go through the whole thread so I'm so if he has already been brought up.
Greg Olsen
Was a solid TE in Chicago a few years ago and I see him being used a lot as teams and linebackers adjust to Newton's running ability but still have to respect Mr. Smiths' deep ball speed.
Also, he was getting love (targets) in preseason and his head coach was talking him up saying something like, Greg can be on the same level as Gronk and Graham. Not a direct quote or accurate IMO but it could be a sign that Olsen is going to get more attention. Shockey is gone too so that should add some improvement to his 45/540/5 stat line from last year.
Greg Olsen
Was a solid TE in Chicago a few years ago and I see him being used a lot as teams and linebackers adjust to Newton's running ability but still have to respect Mr. Smiths' deep ball speed.
Also, he was getting love (targets) in preseason and his head coach was talking him up saying something like, Greg can be on the same level as Gronk and Graham. Not a direct quote or accurate IMO but it could be a sign that Olsen is going to get more attention. Shockey is gone too so that should add some improvement to his 45/540/5 stat line from last year.
Kendall Hunter, Reggie Wayne, Steven Jackson, Doug Martin (at least until recently when I have started seeing him in the 2nd round), Andre Johnson (seen him 3rd and even 4th round, dude is a stud), Percy Harvin, Danny Amendola, Ryan Williams (I think he ends up winning over half the work even if Beanie is/stays healthy), Dwayne Bowe (seeing him in the 6th round, dude scored 15 td's two years ago and last year was a beast again, particularly before Cassell got injured).
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Toby is a great one.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Sidney Rice.
He is talented, and if he is past his injuries he is a HUGE steal. People are down on him due to buring them in the past.
Rice who just turned 26 three days ago was never fully healthy last year. He did not play the first 2 games. He then played 7 games in a row, and through those 7 games he averaged 70 yards a game. Over the course of a season that is 1120 yards. He was doing this all the while not being fully healthy. He then did not play again all year.
Let's just say if he is past the injuries, and can remain healthy, he will surprise a lot of people.
He is talented, and if he is past his injuries he is a HUGE steal. People are down on him due to buring them in the past.
Rice who just turned 26 three days ago was never fully healthy last year. He did not play the first 2 games. He then played 7 games in a row, and through those 7 games he averaged 70 yards a game. Over the course of a season that is 1120 yards. He was doing this all the while not being fully healthy. He then did not play again all year.
Let's just say if he is past the injuries, and can remain healthy, he will surprise a lot of people.
jtd13
Footballguy
If he is past his injuries ever, that will surprise the hell out of me.
cstu
Footballguy
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Things finally clicked for DHB last year, but almost everyone thinks that is his ceiling. Every season he has made huge strides as a receiver and if he keeps working as hard as he has he could be a top receiver.
Here's a comparison to another similarly built Bay Area WR who put up nearly the same stats at age 24:
DHB - 64/975(15.2 YPC)/4
Owens - 60/936(15.6 YPC)/8
Things finally clicked for DHB last year, but almost everyone thinks that is his ceiling. Every season he has made huge strides as a receiver and if he keeps working as hard as he has he could be a top receiver.
Here's a comparison to another similarly built Bay Area WR who put up nearly the same stats at age 24:
DHB - 64/975(15.2 YPC)/4
Owens - 60/936(15.6 YPC)/8
Not technically a sleeper, but for where he's getting drafted, I think Rivers is chronically undervalued.
In one of my leagues I got him at 7.12, and this league has 6pt TDs! He obviously wasn't great last season, but he still finished as a top 10QB in most formats. If that's his floor, then I'm definitely buying at that value.
In one of my leagues I got him at 7.12, and this league has 6pt TDs! He obviously wasn't great last season, but he still finished as a top 10QB in most formats. If that's his floor, then I'm definitely buying at that value.
