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Executive Graft: Worse than poor people scamming us? (1 Viewer)

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Many die hard liberals are having a conniption fit over in the $40 cake thread. They are arguing that people are getting their undies in a bundle over Little Jimmy buying a shrimp tray with his free food card, but do not give a rip when Johnny McMoneybags pays himself $15 million a year for running some crappy company into the ground. I am here to say that these libs are actually right!!! This is a new thread to highlight corporate trickery and malfeasance. Come here to rant about dirtbags who have been paying themselves too much money over the last 20 years and as a result are destabilizing our society.

The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.

 
They are the exact equal to the amount of poor scammers in terms of total scam money.

In other words 100,000 cake scammers = 1 exec that scams 4 million dollars.

 
The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.
Here's the thing. When you're elected to higher office, you're supposed to put your investments in a blind trust so that you don't know what investments you have, and therefore can't pass legislation just to make yourself richer.

But, somehow, the single best-returning possible mutual fund would be the "blind" trusts of the US Senate. Taken as a whole, the US Senate returns better than any other mutual fund or stock index. They beat the market by enormous margins.

Yet, the data is secret. What investments they make are hidden to the public. All we know is tax information and public financial disclosures. If we could somehow tap into and track the investments of US Senators in real-time, and invest in parallel, we'd be filthy rich.

 
The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.
Here's the thing. When you're elected to higher office, you're supposed to put your investments in a blind trust so that you don't know what investments you have, and therefore can't pass legislation just to make yourself richer.

But, somehow, the single best-returning possible mutual fund would be the "blind" trusts of the US Senate. Taken as a whole, the US Senate returns better than any other mutual fund or stock index. They beat the market by enormous margins.

Yet, the data is secret. What investments they make are hidden to the public. All we know is tax information and public financial disclosures. If we could somehow tap into and track the investments of US Senators in real-time, and invest in parallel, we'd be filthy rich.
Link to an article on this?

 
The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.
Here's the thing. When you're elected to higher office, you're supposed to put your investments in a blind trust so that you don't know what investments you have, and therefore can't pass legislation just to make yourself richer.

But, somehow, the single best-returning possible mutual fund would be the "blind" trusts of the US Senate. Taken as a whole, the US Senate returns better than any other mutual fund or stock index. They beat the market by enormous margins.

Yet, the data is secret. What investments they make are hidden to the public. All we know is tax information and public financial disclosures. If we could somehow tap into and track the investments of US Senators in real-time, and invest in parallel, we'd be filthy rich.
Total BS

 
The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.
Here's the thing. When you're elected to higher office, you're supposed to put your investments in a blind trust so that you don't know what investments you have, and therefore can't pass legislation just to make yourself richer.

But, somehow, the single best-returning possible mutual fund would be the "blind" trusts of the US Senate. Taken as a whole, the US Senate returns better than any other mutual fund or stock index. They beat the market by enormous margins.

Yet, the data is secret. What investments they make are hidden to the public. All we know is tax information and public financial disclosures. If we could somehow tap into and track the investments of US Senators in real-time, and invest in parallel, we'd be filthy rich.
Total BS
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Don't recall the details, but he's got it about right.

 
The biggest dirtbag of them all in my mind is Harry Reid....this guy was actually a middle class citizen when he entered office and is now richer than God. To me, he is 100 times worse than Grandma Judy who bought a fruit tray with her government check card.
Here's the thing. When you're elected to higher office, you're supposed to put your investments in a blind trust so that you don't know what investments you have, and therefore can't pass legislation just to make yourself richer.

But, somehow, the single best-returning possible mutual fund would be the "blind" trusts of the US Senate. Taken as a whole, the US Senate returns better than any other mutual fund or stock index. They beat the market by enormous margins.

Yet, the data is secret. What investments they make are hidden to the public. All we know is tax information and public financial disclosures. If we could somehow tap into and track the investments of US Senators in real-time, and invest in parallel, we'd be filthy rich.
Link to an article on this?
http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_klingaman/2011/07/20/wanna_make_money_in_stocks_try_the_us_senate_hedge_fund

Wanna Make Money in Stocks? Try the U.S. Senate Hedge Fund

Forget Jim Cramer, if you want true market-beating results get yourself elected to Congress. That’s the takeaway of a new study by academic experts on the investment habits of U.S. Representatives and Senators. The study shows conclusively that your elected public servants earn “abnormal returns” that top even hedge fund results. How do they do it: Inside information.

Amazingly, there are no ethical guidelines or barriers to members of Congress investing in the very companies they directly regulate. Nor are there any prohibitions against using the inside information they do obtain by formal or informal means. You know, informal, like a casual word dropped by a lobbyist. According to Integrity Research Associates, while House rules prohibit members of Congress from “using their official positions for private profit” and state that “they may not use confidential information obtained in the performance of their government duties for personal gain,” the rules also defend unrestricted stock trading on the ground that restrictions might impair House Members from effectively representing their constituencies [italics mine].

Representatives are uncannily savvy investors, outperforming the market by 6 percent per year. But Senators are the true champions on Wall Street, beating the market by 12 percent per year, year after year. Study co-author Alan J. Ziobrowski, associate professor of business at Georgia State University told the New York Times two weeks ago “it’s just not rational to assume they are just plain lucky.”

Ziobrowski concludes that Senators outperform Representatives because they belong to a more exclusive club and they have deeper pockets, and wield more power and have longer tenures than do Representatives. One finding of the study implies that the Senators know they are ethical outlaws; a finding that may explain why over time their trading edge diminishes. “At some point it could be that the risk isn’t worth the return, if you know what I mean,” said Ziobrowski.

It’s Insider Trading and It Ought to be Illegal

Ziobrowski and co-authors Brigitte Ziobrowski (Augusta State), James W. Boyd (Lindenwood University) and Ping Cheng (Florida Atlantic University) didn’t mince words as to causation of the aberrant profits. “We find strong evidence that Members of the House have some type of nonpublic information which they use for personal gain,” they concluded.

Senators routinely beat corporate insiders and hedge fund managers, giving new meaning to the phrase “feeding at the public trough.” But hey, it’s not illegal, and is likely never to become so given that members of Congress are the guardians of the trough. All this should give rise to a new credo for these shrewd free-marketeers: “Congress—it works for us.”

This perk of office—insider trading—serves as a real hedge against the vagaries of electoral fortune. After a hard term voting according to whatever pledges were signed on the campaign trail, and whatever campaign contributors stipulate, at least a hard-working member of Congress can go home at the end of the term knowing he or she has been enriched in ways that only the most privileged 535 American investors can be.

Curiously, since the study appeared in May no members of Congress have gone on the record with a comment. Even the New York Times had to settle for comments from Nick Lampson, an ex-member of the House, who, coincidently, did not invest in stocks as a member of the House.

I share the recommendation of the study that “timely and complete reporting of congressional security transactions” should become law, but I would go further. Given that they can’t keep their minds on their legislative duties well enough to do things like pass budgets and raise the debt ceiling on their own spending, I recommend blind trusts of the variety that the President must create. Such a requirement might also serve to dissuade those with outsize financial appetites from even running for office.

Aside from that option, I suggest we use a timely and complete data base of Senate stock purchases and holdings to create a U.S. Senate Index. The index would be available to all through reputable mutual fund firms like Vanguard. What? That would diminish the value of the index itself? What a shame.

The Ziobrowski study was first undertaken in 2004. It examined the investing habits of Senators. The 2011 study entitled "Abnormal Returns From the Common Stock Investments of Members of the U.S. House of Representatives," Business and Politics: Vol. 13: Issue. 1, Article 4., allows for the comparison between House and Senate outcomes. This study examined 6,000 stock transactions made by approximately 300 House members from 1985 to 2001. A previous study by Gregory Boller in 1995 showed that stock transactions coincided with legislative activity. The 2004 Senate study, “Abnormal Returns From the Common Stock Investments of the U.S. Senate,” can be found here.
http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/johnransom/2011/05/26/how_to_go_to_congress_and_become_a_millionaire

A portfolio of $100,000 getting average stock market returns of 11 percent over a 17 year period would have grown to $589,000. If you were a member of the United States House of Representatives, though, enjoying the advantage that inside government information can bring you, your portfolio would have reached $1,573,000, according to an investment calculation I did using the finding from the study.

Assuming only average market returns for the next 20 years, a Representative would grow their portfolio to close to $13 million.

Under the same circumstances US Senator would have grown the portfolio to $18 million.
 
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That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?

 
That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?
Hi, and welcome to the United States, where we know that the phrase "almost everyone" really means, "everyone but the people who legally own 90% of everything in existence."

 
That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?
You mean like all the corporations that seem to own Washington these days? Yeah, I don't understand why they wouldn't be in favor of this.

 
That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?
You mean like all the corporations that seem to own Washington these days? Yeah, I don't understand why they wouldn't be in favor of this.
Exactly. There is not "Democratic Party" or "Republican Party". They're both shell companies owned by Goldman Sachs.

 
That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?
Yeah I mean who would filibuster everything the Senate tries to do setting a record for obstruction of things like tax increases, climate change mitigation, infrastructure spending, etc.

MCCONNELL: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
Can't figure out why popular things aren't getting done, can you?

 
That's one thing I don't understand about the democrat party. Why hasn't Obama pushed to close all these tax loopholes that allow billions of dollars in corporate profits to go untaxed? Wouldn't almost everyone be in favor of this?
Yeah I mean who would filibuster everything the Senate tries to do setting a record for obstruction of things like tax increases, climate change mitigation, infrastructure spending, etc.

MCCONNELL: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
Can't figure out why popular things aren't getting done, can you?
:lmao:

 

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