Explosions at Boston Marathon (2 Viewers)

[Slapdash]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

For all the talk from certain posters in this thread wanting to give the government more power to prevent these things, they sure as hell aren't doing much with what they have now.

Well yeah, that is why the DHS was created after 9/11 in the first place. 12 years and hundreds of billions of dollars later there isn't much to show for it except breaking up OWS. And making security at the airport a cluster####.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

Janet Napolitano has never been useful.

 

[KCitons]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

For all the talk from certain posters in this thread wanting to give the government more power to prevent these things, they sure as hell aren't doing much with what they have now.

For all the posters in this thread complaining about the governments inability to protect its citizens, what should we do as a country to protect our citizens, our spouses and our children? Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years.

As John McClain said, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem"

 

[sporthenry]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

For all the talk from certain posters in this thread wanting to give the government more power to prevent these things, they sure as hell aren't doing much with what they have now.

Well yeah, that is why the DHS was created after 9/11 in the first place. 12 years and hundreds of billions of dollars later there isn't much to show for it except breaking up OWS. And making security at the airport a cluster####.

See the problem with these sweeping claims is that nobody knows how many potential attacks they have stopped. All anyone ever really sees is the attacks that actually happen.

 

[Keerock]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

For all the talk from certain posters in this thread wanting to give the government more power to prevent these things, they sure as hell aren't doing much with what they have now.

 

[Joe Summer]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific; and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

Those two statements don't seem contradictory at all.

 

[tom22406]

If you read the entire article this was also written

A DHS official denied, however, that the agency received any such warning from Saudi intelligence about Tamerlan Tsarnaev.'DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,' MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.The White House took a similar view. 'We and other relevant U.S. government agencies have no record of such a letter being received,' said Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the president’s National Security Council.The letter likely came to DHS via the Saudi Ministry of Interior, the agency tasked with protecting the Saudi kingdom’s homeland.A Homeland Security official confirmed Tuesday evening on the condition of anonymity that the 2012 letter exists, saying he had heard of the Saudi communication before MailOnline inquired about it.An aide to a Republican member of the House Homeland Security Committee speculated Tuesday about why the Obama administration contradicted the knowledgeable Saudi official.‘It is possible the Department of Homeland Security received the information from the Saudi government but never passed it on to the White House,’ the GOP staffer said. 'Communication between DHS and the White House's national security apparatus isn't always what it should be.’'I can easily see it happening where one hand didn't know what the other was doing because of a turf war.''Just like the different agencies in the Boston JTTF [Joint Terrorism Task Force] want credit for breaking the Tsarnaev case,' the aide added, 'they sometimes jealously guard the very intel they should be sharing the most freely. Sometimes it makes no sense at all.'

 

[SacramentoBob]

'DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,' MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.

Isn't that the problem?

 

[gump]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

Not true...they bought some pretty neat gas masks and stuff.

 

[JuniorNB]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

Really? Since 9-11, there have been 3 people killed as a result of terrorism. 3. A day or two later, a plot was ruined where the planned on blowing up comuter trains running from Toronto to New York. Do you really think you're aware of all the plots that have been thwarted since 2001?

 

[Slapdash]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

Really? Since 9-11, there have been 3 people killed as a result of terrorism. 3. A day or two later, a plot was ruined where the planned on blowing up comuter trains running from Toronto to New York. Do you really think you're aware of all the plots that have been thwarted since 2001?

Patently false

 

[Rayderr]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

Really? Since 9-11, there have been 3 people killed as a result of terrorism. 3. A day or two later, a plot was ruined where the planned on blowing up comuter trains running from Toronto to New York. Do you really think you're aware of all the plots that have been thwarted since 2001?

MIght want to try counting again.

 

[mad sweeney]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

You could say that before the bombings. They were probably too busy investigating a bittorrent site or or making sure streaming sites were closed down before NHL and NBA playoffs started to keep an eye out for terrorist threats.

 

[Rayderr]

Per CNN:

Suspects disposed of backpacks, fireworks from dorm room, source says.

 

[Slapdash]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

The DHS does not seem very useful at all.

You could say that before the bombings. They were probably too busy investigating a bittorrent site or or making sure streaming sites were closed down before NHL and NBA playoffs started to keep an eye out for terrorist threats.

Yeah, I have been saying that before the bombings too.

 

[Please See Mine]

Would they have caught these bombers. Perhaps

Well, that settles it then.

 

[Nipsey]

Sounds like they disposed of evidence and didn't disclose that when questioned. Whether they knowingly disposed of evidence related to the marathon bombing is unclear but I guess we'll find out this afternoon.

 

[Eephus]

Sounds like they disposed of evidence and didn't disclose that when questioned. Whether they knowingly disposed of evidence related to the marathon bombing is unclear but I guess we'll find out this afternoon.

College roommates taking out the garbage? This screams false flag to me.

 

[KCitons]

Would they have caught these bombers. Perhaps

Well, that settles it then.

Wayne Gretzky said. "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Keep your head in the sand.

 

[HellToupee]

Gotta figure there's a sporting chance they are at least some of the clowns in that Terorista #1 picture, right? We'll find out soon enough I suppose.-QG

Yes , terorista #1 is in custody

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Sounds like they disposed of evidence and didn't disclose that when questioned. Whether they knowingly disposed of evidence related to the marathon bombing is unclear but I guess we'll find out this afternoon.

College roommates taking out the garbage? This screams false flag to me.

HOW A CONSPIRACY THEORISTS MIND WORKS.......'' Jack the Ripper and Winnie the Pooh have the same middle name.... Coincidence? ....I think not ''

 

[Rayderr]

CNN: Suspects disposed of backpacks, fireworks from dorm room, source says.

"Just finished disposing of bombing evidence. Onto washing dishes."

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

Didn't happen.

 

[Henry Ford]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

This link now has this Headline and notes:

Saudi Arabian ambassador in Washington now DENIES his nation warned the United States about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012

• Saudi embassy in Washington D.C. issues denial of account of a senior official who talked to MailOnline

 

[Keerock]

WTF... this is as bad as werewolf.

 

[tom22406]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

This link now has this Headline and notes:
Saudi Arabian ambassador in Washington now DENIES his nation warned the United States about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012

[*]Saudi embassy in Washington D.C. issues denial of account of a senior official who talked to MailOnline

[*]

[*]

Very interesting.Thanks for the update.

 

[sporthenry]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

Didn't happen.

Damn you DHS. How did you not read this letter that didn't exist.

 

[Guest]

With new people in custody, I believe it is time for another post from Officer Pete Malloy.

 

[Doug B]

WTF... this is as bad as werewolf.

Five years ... then maybe -- just maybe -- we'll know 10% of what there is to know about this case. So much obfuscation all around.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

Didn't happen.

Damn you DHS. How did you not read this letter that didn't exist.

No matter how many times someone points out that the Daily Mail is a tabloid rag that's mostly interested in celebrity nip slips and who the stars of the English Premier League are banging, people keep posting it like it's a news source. How hard is it to develop a filter? Just scroll down the page and look at the sidebar. If the word "Kardashian" appears more than once, disregard. Simple.

 

[tom22406]

Saudi Arabia warned the US in writing about the older brother as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-official-Kingdom-warned-United-States-IN-WRITING-Boston-Bomber-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012-rejected-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.

It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

Didn't happen.

Damn you DHS. How did you not read this letter that didn't exist.

No matter how many times someone points out that the Daily Mail is a tabloid rag that's mostly interested in celebrity nip slips and who the stars of the English Premier League are banging, people keep posting it like it's a news source. How hard is it to develop a filter? Just scroll down the page and look at the sidebar. If the word "Kardashian" appears more than once, disregard. Simple.

Certainly wasn't the first to get anything wrong during this whole case.Sounds like another CNN in all of this.

 

[larry_boy_44]

CNN: Suspects disposed of backpacks, fireworks from dorm room, source says.

"Just finished disposing of bombing evidence. Onto washing dishes."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/breaking-boston-police-three-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-151027478.html

either they're complete idiots or they are lying.

According to federal court documents, all three were classmates of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's from the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, and they saw him after the bombings. When the FBI released photos of the bombing suspects on April 18, Phillipos texted Kadyrbayev to say that one of the suspects looked like Tsarnaev. According to the filing, Kadyrbayev saw the photo and then texted Tsarnaev to tell him the same thing.

"LOL," Tsarnaev replied, according to the filing. The suspected bomber told his friend to "come to my room and take whatever you want"—though Kadyrbayev told federal authorities he regarded that comment as a joke.

But Tazhayakov told investigators that upon seeing those texts, he believed he would never see Tsarnaev alive again.

Later that night, Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov, who shared an apartment off campus, met Phillipos at Tsarnaev's dorm room, where they spied a backpack containing fireworks that were "opened and emptied of powder" and other possible bomb-making components, according to court filings. Kadyrbayev allegedly told officials he knew at that moment that Tsarnaev was involved in the bombings, but instead of alerting police, he decided to remove the backpack and Tsarnaev's laptop from the dorm to help his friend "avoid trouble."

The three stayed up all night watching bombing coverage, and amid reports that Tsarnaev was on the run, Kadyrbaev says they collectively decided to throw the backpack and laptop in a trash bin near the apartment he shared with Tazhayakov in New Bedford, according to the court filings. But Phillipos offered up a slightly different story, telling authorities he could not understand the "majority" of what his friends were saying because they were speaking in Russian. When asked by Kadrybaev what he thought he should do with Tsarnaev's items, Phillipos says he replied, "Do what you have to do."

Federal investigators interviewed Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev on April 19 and, on April 20, they were detained on civil immigration violations. They have been in federal custody since then. The twoappeared in immigration court Wednesday morning. Court filings suggest the two came clean early on about their efforts to conceal evidence related to Tsarnaev's alleged role in the bombings.

But federal officials have charged Phillipos with repeatedly lying to investigators about his role—insisting again and again that he didn't remember going to Tsarnaev's dorm room or removing possible evidence. But during his fourth interview on April 26, Phillipos allegedly admitted he had lied to federal agents and signed a confession detailing his role in the cover-up.

On April 26, federal investigators found Tzarnaev's backpack at a nearby landfill, according to court documents. It's unclear if the his laptop has been recovered.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

 

[Rayderr]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

Wikipedia disagrees with you.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

The threat of terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

Wikipedia disagrees with you.

Where? Should I add the edit above?

 

[The Kerminator]

CNN: Suspects disposed of backpacks, fireworks from dorm room, source says.

"Just finished disposing of bombing evidence. Onto washing dishes."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/breaking-boston-police-three-boston-marathon-bombing-suspects-151027478.html

either they're complete idiots or they are lying.

>According to federal court documents, all three were classmates of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's from the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth, and they saw him after the bombings. When the FBI released photos of the bombing suspects on April 18, Phillipos texted Kadyrbayev to say that one of the suspects looked like Tsarnaev. According to the filing, Kadyrbayev saw the photo and then texted Tsarnaev to tell him the same thing.

"LOL," Tsarnaev replied, according to the filing. The suspected bomber told his friend to "come to my room and take whatever you want"—though Kadyrbayev told federal authorities he regarded that comment as a joke.

But Tazhayakov told investigators that upon seeing those texts, he believed he would never see Tsarnaev alive again.

Later that night, Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov, who shared an apartment off campus, met Phillipos at Tsarnaev's dorm room, where they spied a backpack containing fireworks that were "opened and emptied of powder" and other possible bomb-making components, according to court filings. Kadyrbayev allegedly told officials he knew at that moment that Tsarnaev was involved in the bombings, but instead of alerting police, he decided to remove the backpack and Tsarnaev's laptop from the dorm to help his friend "avoid trouble."

The three stayed up all night watching bombing coverage, and amid reports that Tsarnaev was on the run, Kadyrbaev says they collectively decided to throw the backpack and laptop in a trash bin near the apartment he shared with Tazhayakov in New Bedford, according to the court filings. But Phillipos offered up a slightly different story, telling authorities he could not understand the "majority" of what his friends were saying because they were speaking in Russian. When asked by Kadrybaev what he thought he should do with Tsarnaev's items, Phillipos says he replied, "Do what you have to do."

Federal investigators interviewed Tazhayakov and Kadyrbayev on April 19 and, on April 20, they were detained on civil immigration violations. They have been in federal custody since then. The twoappeared in immigration court Wednesday morning. Court filings suggest the two came clean early on about their efforts to conceal evidence related to Tsarnaev's alleged role in the bombings.

But federal officials have charged Phillipos with repeatedly lying to investigators about his role—insisting again and again that he didn't remember going to Tsarnaev's dorm room or removing possible evidence. But during his fourth interview on April 26, Phillipos allegedly admitted he had lied to federal agents and signed a confession detailing his role in the cover-up.

On April 26, federal investigators found Tzarnaev's backpack at a nearby landfill, according to court documents. It's unclear if the his laptop has been recovered.

They're not idiots. They knowingly tried to cover up evidence. Great work here to search the landfill for 3 days to recover the fireworks.

 

[KCitons]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

 

[Fennis]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

crime rates in general have declined significantly in the last 25 years. Something to feel good about:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0109/US-crime-rate-at-lowest-point-in-decades.-Why-America-is-safer-now

 

[KCitons]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

 

[HellToupee]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

Its just not worth it

 

[SacramentoBob]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

 

[Slapdash]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

 

[sporthenry]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

I thought this was the FFA.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So what happens to these guys? Do they get a trial or what?

Do they go to Puerto Rico?

(I'm a little drunk)

 

[mr roboto]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general. Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he did.On the positive side, I'm looking forward to BFS continuing to argue with him even if he never comes back.

 

[KCitons]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

We can continue to discuss this. I figured we were getting close to the point where someone tells us to take the conversation private or start a new thread.

I'm not disagreeing on the facts. But, if you follow the link he provided, it only takes you to a google search for "terrorism is on the decline since 1970". If you change the word decline to increase, you can find similar articles about increases in terrorism.

My statement about things getting worse over the past 25 years was in regards to crimes where people shoot up schools or movies theaters Or people park Ryder trucks full of fertilizer in front of federal buildings. Or kids detonate pressure cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon. Maybe these things happened all the time back then and I just wasn't paying attention. Maybe it's the media coverage that allows us all to see carnage left behind. People with their legs blown off or bloody high school student crawling out of a broken window. So if my perception doesn't match the facts, then so be it. I'm certain that I'm not alone.

Beyond that, there is not much more to discuss. BFS has his opinion on what America should do to prevent these things from happening in the future and I have mine. We could continue to go back and forth, but I don't plan on changing. And, I get the feeling he isn't either.

 

[5 digit know nothing]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

We can continue to discuss this. I figured we were getting close to the point where someone tells us to take the conversation private or start a new thread.

I'm not disagreeing on the facts. But, if you follow the link he provided, it only takes you to a google search for "terrorism is on the decline since 1970". If you change the word decline to increase, you can find similar articles about increases in terrorism.

My statement about things getting worse over the past 25 years was in regards to crimes where people shoot up schools or movies theaters Or people park Ryder trucks full of fertilizer in front of federal buildings. Or kids detonate pressure cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon. Maybe these things happened all the time back then and I just wasn't paying attention. Maybe it's the media coverage that allows us all to see carnage left behind. People with their legs blown off or bloody high school student crawling out of a broken window. So if my perception doesn't match the facts, then so be it. I'm certain that I'm not alone.

Beyond that, there is not much more to discuss. BFS has his opinion on what America should do to prevent these things from happening in the future and I have mine. We could continue to go back and forth, but I don't plan on changing. And, I get the feeling he isn't either.

I think the disconnect is that Bottomfeeder is talking about terrorism in the sense that the acts are perpetrated for religious reasons.

You are talking about terrorism in the sense that it can be perpetrated for a political or, ideological goal (as well as for religious reasons).

There have been more mass (or spree) killings IMO due to copy cats and the proliferation of the events by the main stream and social media outlets.

 

[KCitons]

KCitons, on 01 May 2013 - 12:04, said:

..Things sure has hell have been getting worse and worse over the past 25 years. ...

Terrorism has steadily and constantly declined since the 70's. Didn't you say that your point of reference was more than the past 10 years?

I was talking about crime in general.

Again, I'm not sure what more we have to discuss. We each have our own opinions and I highly doubt either of us are going to change them.

So you are tilting at windmills because the world is going to hell in a hand basket?

"Crime in general" has steadily declined also.

Have a nice day. Peace.

It's one thing to have different opinions on a subject, but you can't agree to disagree over the facts,

We can continue to discuss this. I figured we were getting close to the point where someone tells us to take the conversation private or start a new thread.

I'm not disagreeing on the facts. But, if you follow the link he provided, it only takes you to a google search for "terrorism is on the decline since 1970". If you change the word decline to increase, you can find similar articles about increases in terrorism.

My statement about things getting worse over the past 25 years was in regards to crimes where people shoot up schools or movies theaters Or people park Ryder trucks full of fertilizer in front of federal buildings. Or kids detonate pressure cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon. Maybe these things happened all the time back then and I just wasn't paying attention. Maybe it's the media coverage that allows us all to see carnage left behind. People with their legs blown off or bloody high school student crawling out of a broken window. So if my perception doesn't match the facts, then so be it. I'm certain that I'm not alone.

Beyond that, there is not much more to discuss. BFS has his opinion on what America should do to prevent these things from happening in the future and I have mine. We could continue to go back and forth, but I don't plan on changing. And, I get the feeling he isn't either.

I think the disconnect is that Bottomfeeder is talking about terrorism in the sense that the acts are perpetrated for religious reasons.

You are talking about terrorism in the sense that it can be perpetrated for a political or, ideological goal (as well as for religious reasons).

There have been more mass (or spree) killings IMO due to copy cats and the proliferation of the events by the main stream and social media outlets.

i think the conversation has moved past the cause. BFS disagrees with my thoughts that we need to do more to protect the citizens. My suggestion of portable surveillance was refuted because of cost, loss of civil liberties, a lack of ineffectiveness, and belief that it just wouldn't work. BFS, believes that things are hunky dory and we should take a wait and see attitude.

 

[5 digit know nothing]

I'd bet we'll see an increase of surveillance at future Boston marathons regardless of effectiveness in preventing another attack. I think technology is at the point where they can faceID a large number of people, the challenge comes down to creating a priority list of possible attackers based on intelligence that has been gathered.