Eyes Wide Shut (1 Viewer)

[jdoggydogg]

Possibly the worst movie ever made

I take it you've seen like three movies?

 

[17seconds]

really good movie

if you think this movie is boring you don't get it

 

[jdoggydogg]

since it's Kubrick and it's weird, people feel inclined to say it's great.

Yikes. Yet another guy that feels the need to explain how I feel about a movie. I'm glad you know me so well.

 

[yinzer]

really good movieif you think this movie is boring you don't get it

...or you dont like watching hot bi**hes getting

 

[packersfan]

really good movieif you think this movie is boring you don't get it

Give me the Cliff Notes version of what I missed because when I saw it with my then girlfriend we both thought it was an overly pretentious pile of dung.

 

[Adebisi]

since it's Kubrick and it's weird, people feel inclined to say it's great.

Yikes. Yet another guy that feels the need to explain how I feel about a movie. I'm glad you know me so well.

You bet. Just know that the rest of us see right through you, guy.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I think its one of his best. Possibly the most underrated film ever. Watching it right now. Really don't understand how some people hated this movie.

I'm going to have to slap a good posting on this.

I think I have a current total of 8 people on these boards (me included) that dig this movie.

I'm pretty sure Tufnel/moonhead wrote a thesis on it.

It's one of those movies where, if it's on, I'm watching it. Can't turn away. The really simplistic piano score sucks me in.

 

[17seconds]

really good movieif you think this movie is boring you don't get it

Give me the Cliff Notes version of what I missed because when I saw it with my then girlfriend we both thought it was an overly pretentious pile of dung.

pretentious is a legitimate gripekubrick is examining fidelity- how men are challenged by a natural aversion to monogamy. good clashing of fantasy and reality in there too.and there's some hot saucy bi**hes

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I rank Kubrick1. Dr. Strangelove2. Full Metal Jacket3. A Clockwork Orange4. 20015. Paths of Glory6. Barry Lyndon7. The Killing8. Eyes Wide Shut9. The Shining10. Lolita11. Spartacus

good ranking, can't really disagree much here

 

[17seconds]

I rank Kubrick1. Dr. Strangelove2. Full Metal Jacket3. A Clockwork Orange4. 20015. Paths of Glory6. Barry Lyndon7. The Killing8. Eyes Wide Shut9. The Shining10. Lolita11. Spartacus

good ranking, can't really disagree much here

I'm going this way:1. 20012. Full Metal Jacket3. A Clockwork Orange4. The Shining5. Dr. Strangelove6. Eyes Wide Shut7. Paths of Glory8. LolitaHaven't seen Barry Lyndon or Spartacus although I have the DVDs.

 

[Christo]

The ritual with the naked hookers in masks is similar to the rituals described in The DaVinci Code..Very intriguing movie.. who WERE those people? Why was Cruises' character warned?What is up with the Christmas lights everyewhere?Loved it

This movie should of been called Red Herring, it threw out a lot of clues that never get answered and left me saying who cares. I doubt it was even in the can when Stanley kicked. Wasn't the worst movie ever, but had to be the worst movie that had an orgy in it ever.

Two sides if the same coin. I'm with erict on this. I don't like leaving a movie having more questions than when I arrived. I want to know the "why."

 

[ACE]

It's funny this should come up. I was just discussing this movie with a buddy the other day. I personally love the movie. Fidelio.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie.

Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision.

I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film.

These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

 

[17seconds]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

I think EWS makes perfect sense.Lynch's stuff is insanely confusing to me though. Too much so. I don't even think Lynch knows what it's about.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

I think EWS makes perfect sense.Lynch's stuff is insanely confusing to me though. Too much so. I don't even think Lynch knows what it's about.

I agree that Lynch's movie are a lot more bizarre. I just see a common thread between Eyes and Lynch's movies in that they abandon some of the old forms.

 

[Buckna]

This movie should of been called Red Herring, it threw out a lot of clues that never get answered and left me saying who cares. I doubt it was even in the can when Stanley kicked. Wasn't the worst movie ever, but had to be the worst movie that had an orgy in it ever.

Ever seen Caligula?

 

[flysack]

I think its one of his best. Possibly the most underrated film ever. Watching it right now. Really don't understand how some people hated this movie.

I'm with you on this one. I never understood why it was so loathed. A great riff on masculinity pulled off with classic Kubrick touch. A few years back I tired to find a copy of "Traumaville," the 1920s novella it's based on, but had no luck.

 

[flysack]

I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film.

Very well said. In all three movies the narrative is replaced by the psychology of the protagonist, so what you get isn't a traditional storyline as much as a quasi-surreal exploration of one character's psyche.I'd rate them -1. Muholland Drive2. Eyes Wide Shut3.4.5. Lost HighwayI like them all though.

 

[jdoggydogg]

This movie should of been called Red Herring, it threw out a lot of clues that never get answered and left me saying who cares. I doubt it was even in the can when Stanley kicked. Wasn't the worst movie ever, but had to be the worst movie that had an orgy in it ever.

Ever seen Caligula?

Yeah. Watch that movie and report back.

 

[cactus]

Love it.

The pacing and flow of the editing is phenomenal.

 

[flysack]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene.

Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall.

Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

 

[pile of sith]

I rank Kubrick1. Dr. Strangelove2. Full Metal Jacket3. A Clockwork Orange4. 20015. Paths of Glory6. Barry Lyndon7. The Killing8. Eyes Wide Shut9. The Shining10. Lolita11. Spartacus

good ranking, can't really disagree much here

I'm going this way:1. 20012. Full Metal Jacket3. A Clockwork Orange4. The Shining5. Dr. Strangelove6. Eyes Wide Shut7. Paths of Glory8. LolitaHaven't seen Barry Lyndon or Spartacus although I have the DVDs.

i'm on board here. i think 2001 is the pinnacle of cinematic achievement, though. so there's your caveat.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene. Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall. Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. Something about the film stock (or something) in this movie made every indoor scene seem very warm and every outdoor scene very cold. I love that.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film.

Very well said. In all three movies the narrative is replaced by the psychology of the protagonist, so what you get isn't a traditional storyline as much as a quasi-surreal exploration of one character's psyche.

 

[dmac37]

Thought it was a great flick.

Bonus- the hot chick in the headdress (one of the greatest bodies ever) >>>>>>> Kidman

 

[flysack]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene. Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall. Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. Something about the film stock (or something) in this movie made every indoor scene seem very warm and every outdoor scene very cold. I love that.

Great observation.

 

[jdoggydogg]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene. Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall. Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. Something about the film stock (or something) in this movie made every indoor scene seem very warm and every outdoor scene very cold. I love that.

I wonder if they digitally enhanced the color for those scenes. I saw a short movie about the digital coloring of O Brother Where Art Thou, and I am guessing that technique gets used a lot. For another example, The Matrix scenes within the Matrix construct all have a green patina.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

The result of too much education and not enough thinking.

 

[flysack]

Digression:

Anyone ever notice that Kubrick has very specific tastes in the bodies of naked women in his films? They all look very similar. Natural C-cup breasts that perfectly balance their wide hips. They all have nice tummies but there's never a hint of fitness-powered abdominals. If I had to sum it up, I'd say he had a thing for the "natural" beauty. Every woman who ever appears naked in his films looks like this. It's almost as if he used the same body over and over.

Exceptions are for obvious stars like Kidman, of course. I mean the no-name bit actresses who appear nude.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

The result of too much education and not enough thinking.

Me or the movie?

 

[jdoggydogg]

Digression: Anyone ever notice that Kubrick has very specific tastes in the bodies of naked women in his films? They all look very similar. Natural C-cup breasts that perfectly balance their wide hips. They all have nice tummies but there's never a hint of fitness-powered abdominals. If I had to sum it up, I'd say he had a thing for the "natural" beauty. Every woman who ever appears naked in his films looks like this. It's almost as if he used the same body over and over. Exceptions are for obvious stars like Kidman, of course. I mean the no-name bit actresses who appear nude.

Hmmmmmmm. I was going to ask if Kubrick bothered to participate in the casting but then I realized that was a stupid question.

 

[Finless]

Glad to see the fans coming out of the weeds on this one. It's interesting subject matter. We've got hot chicks mostly nekkid, an anonymous masked Illuminati sex party, lots of confusion, uncertainty and suspense. I dig it. I don't think there's all too much that went unanswered. It's pretty much laid out and then Pollack tries to cover it up. Had Cruise not been on to something the man would not have given him that note at the gate. If people of prestige and power were in the room as stated the hookers and piano player would obviously be expendable. I think the mask was left on the bed by Kidman. Others speculate it may have been left by Pollack's henchman as a warning for Dr Bill to give up his little investigation. I don't by that. The movie is pretty straight forward for me and any times it's on it sucks me in.

I was in Manhattan when it came out and someone was selling the bootleg on the street. I bought it and invited a few people over to watch it. I popped it on and it was Lake Placid, the corny alligator movie

And as far as Lost Highway goes there was no intent for it to make sense. Lynch stated that at one time. I believe he said "Don't try to make sense of it". I still don't get what people think is so weird about Eyes Wide Shut. It may have dragged out a bit but it definitely was not reaching and pretentious.

 

[Finless]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene. Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall. Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. Something about the film stock (or something) in this movie made every indoor scene seem very warm and every outdoor scene very cold. I love that.

I wonder if they digitally enhanced the color for those scenes. I saw a short movie about the digital coloring of O Brother Where Art Thou, and I am guessing that technique gets used a lot. For another example, The Matrix scenes within the Matrix construct all have a green patina.

Same technique was used in Traffic. All the scenes in Mexico were filmed or edited with a red light effect and all scenes in the states were filmed or edited with a blue light effect. I think it's both pretty common and it does the trick.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I still don't get what people think is so weird about Eyes Wide Shut. It may have dragged out a bit but it definitely was not reaching and pretentious.

Pretentious is a word I hesitate to use unless I know the person a bit. Calling someone pretentious implies that you know what the artist's intentions are. How would you know that, exactly? I've never seen Kubrick interviewed. But even if I had seen him interviewed, could I then be sure he was pretentious?

 

[jdoggydogg]

One thing I could never figure out though was why Kubrick insisted on putting a Christmas tree in every single scene. Even when Cruise is walking around outside, there's a tree there somewhere. In one scene it's drawn with lights on a wall. Odd. The only thing I could think is it was a half-assed phallic symbol...which considering the film's focus on Cruise's bruised sense of sexuality/masculinity, I guess works.

This kind of stuff is fascinating to me. Something about the film stock (or something) in this movie made every indoor scene seem very warm and every outdoor scene very cold. I love that.

I wonder if they digitally enhanced the color for those scenes. I saw a short movie about the digital coloring of O Brother Where Art Thou, and I am guessing that technique gets used a lot. For another example, The Matrix scenes within the Matrix construct all have a green patina.

Same technique was used in Traffic. All the scenes in Mexico were filmed or edited with a red light effect and all scenes in the states were filmed or edited with a blue light effect. I think it's both pretty common and it does the trick.

I remember that. I think that camera filters were used in previous years. But that could be costly if you shoot a whole days work later to discover that the filter was too dark or slightly off-color.

 

[ericttspikes]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

I liked Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway way better. To use your painting metaphor, it was clear that those were surrealist movies. I left being o.k. with being confused, because they were fun abstract and psychedelic rides. EWS had a premise of a mystery that had no answer. They threw a bunch of possibilities out there, or clues, and most were unresolved. Everything that happened in EWS, even the crazy rich people masked orgy, was well within belief as something that happens in real life. There really wasn't anything over the top abstract about it to me. It just pissed me off when I sat there for a couple of hours trying to piece together a mystery with no answer. If it was meant to be a subconcious surrealist movie, he missed the mark big time. It wasn't crazy enough.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

I liked Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway way better. To use your painting metaphor, it was clear that those were surrealist movies. I left being o.k. with being confused, because they were fun abstract and psychedelic rides. EWS had a premise of a mystery that had no answer. They threw a bunch of possibilities out there, or clues, and most were unresolved. Everything that happened in EWS, even the crazy rich people masked orgy, was well within belief as something that happens in real life. There really wasn't anything over the top abstract about it to me. It just pissed me off when I sat there for a couple of hours trying to piece together a mystery with no answer. If it was meant to be a subconcious surrealist movie, he missed the mark big time. It wasn't crazy enough.

Good post. But I see Eyes as very surrealistic. I know it's not even close to a Lynch movie in terms of its weirdness. I watched Eyes assuming that Kubrick was creating scenes from a long nightmare.

 

[flysack]

And as far as Lost Highway goes there was no intent for it to make sense. Lynch stated that at one time. I believe he said "Don't try to make sense of it". I still don't get what people think is so weird about Eyes Wide Shut. It may have dragged out a bit but it definitely was not reaching and pretentious.

Actually, he's stated that he was intrigued by the idea of psychogenic fugue - when a person enters a completely different state of mind with no memory of his former self. I'd look up a link, but I don't have the time right now.

 

[flysack]

And as far as Lost Highway goes there was no intent for it to make sense. Lynch stated that at one time. I believe he said "Don't try to make sense of it". I still don't get what people think is so weird about Eyes Wide Shut. It may have dragged out a bit but it definitely was not reaching and pretentious.

Actually, he's stated that he was intrigued by the idea of psychogenic fugue - when a person enters a completely different state of mind with no memory of his former self. I'd look up a link, but I don't have the time right now.

Here's a quick link. http://www.geocities.com/~mikehartmann/pap...zogenrath7.htmlThe Lynch is block quoted near the top. Apparently he heard about fugue states while the movie was being produced.

 

[jdoggydogg]

And as far as Lost Highway goes there was no intent for it to make sense. Lynch stated that at one time. I believe he said "Don't try to make sense of it". I still don't get what people think is so weird about Eyes Wide Shut. It may have dragged out a bit but it definitely was not reaching and pretentious.

Actually, he's stated that he was intrigued by the idea of psychogenic fugue - when a person enters a completely different state of mind with no memory of his former self. I'd look up a link, but I don't have the time right now.

Here's a quick link. http://www.geocities.com/~mikehartmann/pap...zogenrath7.htmlThe Lynch is block quoted near the top. Apparently he heard about fugue states while the movie was being produced.

I have fugues.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Eyes Wide Shut is very goodI think a few of Kubrick's other flicks are wayyy overrated, just like this one is underratedMaybe I dont get brilliance though

Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut.Not even complete list, but this guy dominates. Dr. Strangelove alone gets him in the HOF.Edited to add: I can't believe I left Full Metal Jacket off the abridged list...

2001 and Full Metal Jacket are the main movies Im talking about being overrated bigtime

If you had said 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut I would agree, but bootcamp in Full Metal Jacket is stellar.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Eyes Wide Shut is very goodI think a few of Kubrick's other flicks are wayyy overrated, just like this one is underratedMaybe I dont get brilliance though

Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut.Not even complete list, but this guy dominates. Dr. Strangelove alone gets him in the HOF.Edited to add: I can't believe I left Full Metal Jacket off the abridged list...

2001 and Full Metal Jacket are the main movies Im talking about being overrated bigtime

If you had said 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut I would agree, but bootcamp in Full Metal Jacket is stellar.

The Vietnam scenes in Jacket aren't as strong as the boot camp scenes. But if you just watched the boot camp segment, I think it'd still be one of the top 30 best films ever made.

 

[yinzer]

Eyes Wide Shut is very goodI think a few of Kubrick's other flicks are wayyy overrated, just like this one is underratedMaybe I dont get brilliance though

Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut.Not even complete list, but this guy dominates. Dr. Strangelove alone gets him in the HOF.Edited to add: I can't believe I left Full Metal Jacket off the abridged list...

2001 and Full Metal Jacket are the main movies Im talking about being overrated bigtime

If you had said 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut I would agree, but bootcamp in Full Metal Jacket is stellar.

So basically youre saying half the movie (which I agree on) is stellar...Considering where that films seems to be rated and the acclaim it gets, I think you just said yourself that its overrated if only half of it is good.

 

[Gadfly]

Eyes Wide Shut is very goodI think a few of Kubrick's other flicks are wayyy overrated, just like this one is underratedMaybe I dont get brilliance though

Spartacus, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut.Not even complete list, but this guy dominates. Dr. Strangelove alone gets him in the HOF.Edited to add: I can't believe I left Full Metal Jacket off the abridged list...

2001 and Full Metal Jacket are the main movies Im talking about being overrated bigtime

If you had said 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut I would agree, but bootcamp in Full Metal Jacket is stellar.

So basically youre saying half the movie (which I agree on) is stellar...Considering where that films seems to be rated and the acclaim it gets, I think you just said yourself that its overrated if only half of it is good.

I'd much rather see one of the greatest half films of all time than almost any other movie. The second half wasn't bad either. Still two iconic moments in the second half with the hooker scene and the troops marching to the Mickey Mouse Club song. See you real soon!

 

[shuke]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

 

[shuke]

And as far as Lost Highway goes there was no intent for it to make sense. Lynch stated that at one time. I believe he said "Don't try to make sense of it".

I'm pretty sure it made sense to him. Inland Empire, on the other hand, probably didn't.Watch Vertigo and then watch Lost Highway again.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I can see why people hate Eyes Wide Shut. The plot is vague, the characters mostly unlikeable, and there's almost no resolution. That disregard for a traditional story arc is what makes me appreciate the movie. Eyes works because it doesn't seem to care about established rules of cinema. I would have liked some things explained and a more satisfying final. Kubrick didn't seem interested in that, and I respect the decision. I think Eyes would make a great triple feature with Lynch's Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Here we have movies that I don't always understand, but I enjoy them because Lynch and Kubrick are doing new, odd things with film. These movies are like a Kandinsky painting. You can't really explain them fully. But does every work or art need an explanation?

 

[NYRAGE]

Not calling it a great film, but I loved it.

 

[TitusIII]

One of those movies that would be completely disregarded if anyone else had done it, but since it's Kubrick and it's weird, people feel inclined to say it's great.

Agreed. It was entertaining at times, but special? No, it's fantasy...and the message of the film is quite clear.I'm inclined to believe R. Lee Ermey, who claimed that Kubrick told him the movie was ####...and while I don't think it was terrible, it wasn't classic Kubrick, but SK was close to 80 years old during filming...not bad for an old man.

 

[jdoggydogg]

One of those movies that would be completely disregarded if anyone else had done it, but since it's Kubrick and it's weird, people feel inclined to say it's great.

Agreed. It was entertaining at times, but special? No, it's fantasy...and the message of the film is quite clear.I'm inclined to believe R. Lee Ermey, who claimed that Kubrick told him the movie was ####...and while I don't think it was terrible, it wasn't classic Kubrick, but SK was close to 80 years old during filming...not bad for an old man.

So the artist says it's #### therefore it's ####? I guarantee Beethoven hated some of his works. That is irrelevant.