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BrothaMan

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What is the best way to determine the draft order in a re-draft league? My league has been using the computer to pick the draft order. Well the owner who won the Super Bowl (me) and the Super Bowl runner up got the 1st and 2nd overall picks this year and some owners are upset with this. They want to change it to how you finished last year. So I would be picking last. My thinking is in a re-draft, last year is last year. Every owner has the same chance to get the number 1 pick and so on...Just wondering how most of the Shark Pool handles re-drafts.

BTW...I had the 5th pick last year and the change wouldnt take place until after this year.

 
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Last year is last year.

If your league really hates the idea of last year's Champion having a high pick the following year, just rotate the draft order every year, so everyone gets a top pick on a rotation basis.

As an aside, this just seems like another good argument for using 3RR. Helps even all this stuff out.

 
Auction, 3 round reversal, are good options.

Let the last place team pick last years champions draft slot.

2nd last, 2nd...

Seriously though, you should apologize now.

Just tell your league it isn't going to matter.

 
Let the computer simulation decide the order for choosing your pick.

i.e: 1st person can choose the 5th slot if he thinks that slot is the best. Not only does everybody love choices, it adds another level of skill to the game.

 
I can and have won from every position. If it wasn't agreed upon last year, how this year's draft would be done, then it should be the same. Say ok, next year, we do reverse of this year's or whatever the majority decides. In one of my leagues, we have a meeting in August to decide any rule changes and so forth, usually only half the league shows up, we discuss and vote. funny how they didn't start complainin til you got 1-2.

Settle on how you will do it next year, too late for this year.

:thumbup:

 
Before we went auction we did it an unusal way.

We used 10 dominos numbered 1-10. Whoever got domino #1 had their pick of spot (anywhere from 1 to 10). Then domino #2 got their pick of the remaining spots. Usually it ended up follwing 1,2,3,4 etc. except once in a while, someone higher up would choose the middle or the 10th pick.

In addition, whoever finished 10th the previous year picked 3 dominos and kept the best one. The two that finished 8th and 9th picked two dominos and kept the best one. Everyone else picked just one domino. All this did was increase the chances of someone who did poorly the previous year having a higher pick. Everyone was really happy with this method.

I agree that you can win your league in any draft spot, but this method kept the owners happy and everyone thought it was fair.

 
The funny thing is this was never a problem until I got the first pick. This league has been together for a while and I never had the 1st pick. I can win picking at any spot. I have already proven that. I have the most championships in the league. My problem with the whole thing is when I did get it, they want to change the rules next year. I just feel that in a redraft, last years standings should not determine the draft order.

 
Another thing, thanks for the replies. I dont post much but I check this site out all the time. I think its the best site for fantasy football information.

 
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Mr. Mojo said:
Before we went auction we did it an unusal way.We used 10 dominos numbered 1-10. Whoever got domino #1 had their pick of spot (anywhere from 1 to 10). Then domino #2 got their pick of the remaining spots. Usually it ended up follwing 1,2,3,4 etc. except once in a while, someone higher up would choose the middle or the 10th pick.In addition, whoever finished 10th the previous year picked 3 dominos and kept the best one. The two that finished 8th and 9th picked two dominos and kept the best one. Everyone else picked just one domino. All this did was increase the chances of someone who did poorly the previous year having a higher pick. Everyone was really happy with this method.I agree that you can win your league in any draft spot, but this method kept the owners happy and everyone thought it was fair.
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My main money league does this too, and the funny thing is NOBODY wants the top spot. The #1 usually gets picked halfway through because we all know the #1 spot is vastly overvalued and you can never outperform your draft position with this pick. That combined with the decline of the "stud" RB - every year a RB at the bottom of round 1 will give you top RB performance.
 
One method that I always liked was we seeded everyone in reverse order of how they finished the previous year. Then the teams got to pick which draft position they wanted. In other words the team with the worst record got to pick which draft position they wanted and the champion got the last position available. It was a lot of fun as you could see that many owners had totally different opinions of which were the best spots to draft from.

I believe any statistical analysis will show that draft position doesn't correspond to championships.

 
The Great Snook said:
One method that I always liked was we seeded everyone in reverse order of how they finished the previous year. Then the teams got to pick which draft position they wanted. In other words the team with the worst record got to pick which draft position they wanted and the champion got the last position available. It was a lot of fun as you could see that many owners had totally different opinions of which were the best spots to draft from.I believe any statistical analysis will show that draft position doesn't correspond to championships.
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:thumbup: drafting is half the fun of a league. Assuming everyone is at least active, why not let the last place finishers add to their fun a little one this one day?
 
runner06 said:
Last year is last year.Draft order should be random in a redraft.
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We draw cards, but we allow each team to pick their draft spot based on their card. Ace selects their draft spot, then King selects from what is left, and so on. That way if you don't want the first spot, maybe you want the three, or the six spot, you have choices. We also do a third round reversal, which gives the later spots a better chance than a standard draft.
 
BrothaMan said:
What is the best way to determine the draft order in a re-draft league? My league has been using the computer to pick the draft order. Well the owner who won the Super Bowl (me) and the Super Bowl runner up got the 1st and 2nd overall picks this year and some owners are upset with this. They want to change it to how you finished last year. So I would be picking last. My thinking is in a re-draft, last year is last year. Every owner has the same chance to get the number 1 pick and so on...Just wondering how most of the Shark Pool handles re-drafts. BTW...I had the 5th pick last year and the change wouldnt take place until after this year.
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Redraft should always be random, never based on the previous year. That kind of stuff is for keeper and dynasty leagues.We did what a lot of people here have talked about ... put out 8-10 playing cards, and your card gave you a corresponding choice (i.e. Ace was first choice, 2 was second, etc.). It was always fun, and added a bit of strategy to the draft.
 
Our league, Super Bowl Winner picks his position last. Of all the teams who did not make the playoffs, the Best Record has his first choice of what position he wants to pick, then next best record to the worst record. This prevents tanking at the end of the season and give the guy who didn't quite make the playoffs a chance to choose his slot. Playoff teams go last, worst record to best, the SB winner.

I figure, most of the time, it really doesn't matter too much on where you pick, you can get a great team at any position, or one that sux's

 
On draft day, we put each team name in an envelop and draw them out 1 through 14. Then we start opening them with Pick 14, so the suspense can build a bit.

 
massraider said:
My league has a 'no whiny little beyotches' policy. It's worked out nice for us.
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Cool. Can I have a copy of it? PM me and I'll give you my email addy.ETA: Never mind, I just remembered, we give out a Cry Baby Award to the doosh that beyotches the most during the season.
 
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BrothaMan said:
What is the best way to determine the draft order in a re-draft league? My league has been using the computer to pick the draft order. Well the owner who won the Super Bowl (me) and the Super Bowl runner up got the 1st and 2nd overall picks this year and some owners are upset with this. They want to change it to how you finished last year. So I would be picking last. My thinking is in a re-draft, last year is last year. Every owner has the same chance to get the number 1 pick and so on...Just wondering how most of the Shark Pool handles re-drafts. BTW...I had the 5th pick last year and the change wouldnt take place until after this year.
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well, rules are rules.If people want to change it, they should change it and have the change take effect for the next draft.You cant just go and change the rules & how they are applied in the current season just because a few people dont like the position they draft from.
 
Ray_T said:
BrothaMan said:
What is the best way to determine the draft order in a re-draft league? My league has been using the computer to pick the draft order. Well the owner who won the Super Bowl (me) and the Super Bowl runner up got the 1st and 2nd overall picks this year and some owners are upset with this. They want to change it to how you finished last year. So I would be picking last. My thinking is in a re-draft, last year is last year. Every owner has the same chance to get the number 1 pick and so on...Just wondering how most of the Shark Pool handles re-drafts. BTW...I had the 5th pick last year and the change wouldnt take place until after this year.
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well, rules are rules.If people want to change it, they should change it and have the change take effect for the next draft.You cant just go and change the rules & how they are applied in the current season just because a few people dont like the position they draft from.
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Ding ding ding. 27 posts and we have a winner. You can't simply change this year's rules after then fact.
 
In my league we also draw names from a hat but the 1st name drawn gets the 12th pick, 2nd name drawn gets 11th and so on. It makes it more suspenseful as to who will end up with the number 1 pick.

 
firstseason1988 said:
I can and have won from every position. If it wasn't agreed upon last year, how this year's draft would be done, then it should be the same. Say ok, next year, we do reverse of this year's or whatever the majority decides. In one of my leagues, we have a meeting in August to decide any rule changes and so forth, usually only half the league shows up, we discuss and vote. funny how they didn't start complainin til you got 1-2.Settle on how you will do it next year, too late for this year. :popcorn:
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:goodposting:
 
We are allowed to keep two players from a 20 man roster and our draft order is completely random.

I won the league last season and I drew the #1 pick this season. There are a few people who are not happy about it but its been a possibility since we started 12 years ago, but this is the 1st time that the champion has received the #1 pick.

It’s a good year to have the #1 pick in my league because A.Peterson’s contract is up and he has to be placed back into the draft pool. AP is mine for 09 an 10 :D

 
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