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Fan Duel Week 2 (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Courtweeks87
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This is great! Any way you could add Home/Away designator somewhere in the spreadsheet?
John Lee
Footballguy
Yes...that will be part of it (it already is, actually), but I was unable to convert it to this forum as I had it in Excel.
JimmyJabroni
Footballguy
Busted on what I thought were value plays...Forsette (should've went West), Hunter (oof), Garcon (not super cheap but he's usually good for tons of targets and really consistent receptions)
Hit on some Studs...Foster, Nelson, Graham
Still have a chance at breaking even or maybe getting something if Luck and Hilton both deliver. Need Ertz to come up big too.
Hit on some Studs...Foster, Nelson, Graham
Still have a chance at breaking even or maybe getting something if Luck and Hilton both deliver. Need Ertz to come up big too.
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Pantherz
Footballguy
You are probably right. And I didn't get a lot of H2Hs in this week, but I don't like the way they are handling it. For instance, I only had one 1pm only H2H this week and was up about 110-55. Now it is gone, doesn't even show up on my history as cancelled. Just disappeared completely. I have no idea how many others are gone in other formats. I only remember that one specifically because it was my only (1pm only) game,
IMO they have every right to offer a refund to those who asked. But they should not take my winnings because of their problem. I certainly wouldn't agree to drop a game where I'm winning easily. Then I really don't like the fact that there is no record of it so that I can't see what they changed, or cancelled.
Yeah, I'll be watching how they handle this closely. I already have most of my $$$ at DraftKings & will move it all over if FanDuel handles this poorly. I prefer the DraftKing setup without the kicker & allowing you to modify lineups as long as the players game has not started. It's my own fault, but I lost a load on FanDuel last week because I forgot you couldn't modify the Thursday Lineups.
Pantherz
Footballguy
I normally go 75-80% on games other than GPP. I sprinkle in some 3-player, 5 player but mostly H2H or 50/50.
I don't think they have 1 pm only GPPs.
John Lee
Footballguy
They were supposed to 'assume' all canceled entries, rather than outright canceling them.
I have it on good authority that FanDuel is basically playing/honoring the entries of any person who canceled; in other words, they'll collect all the money, if those 'canceled' entries actually perform well (and vice-versa).
In other words, you should not have seen H2H's disappear...I didn't (although I wish a few of them would have!).
JimmyJabroni
Footballguy
So they will pay back whomever cancelled but assume the risk of the lineup and keep it in play?
If so, that sounds like a very solid way of handling it.
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John Lee
Footballguy
Pantherz
Footballguy
It appears thats what they are doing. After your post I went back and checked all my H2H games and found the 1 pm only. I didn't see it earlier because they removed the "1 pm only" that was in parenthesis during the games. It sounds as if they handled it pretty well now.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I still don't understand why they don't keep the "1pm Only" by the game title once it begins. Same goes for Sunday Only, etc. Apparently I was the only person on Fanduel to ask them about that last year when I brought it up. John Lee...see what you can do!! It REALLY bothers me. 
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
I really enjoyed my first try at the daily games. I went in with just the 200 original deposit and played 12 games. Currently winning in 10 of 12 but have Luck and McCoy in 1 that I'm not winning. Now I'm hooked 
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I got this email
Hi there,
Thank you for submitting a support ticket. We truly apologize for the inconvenience before game start. We're currently working through a backlog of support requests and apologize for the delayed update. If you would like to request a refund for today's 1PM contests, please reply back before 10am ET Monday and confirm.
Please note that if you accept the refund option, this would be for ALL entries beginning at 1 PM. In this scenario, FanDuel will assume your entry and provide you a full refund. Note, you will not receive the winnings even if a win shows in your account. Opponents in the standings will be unaffected.
The site experienced a lag and for some users an outage for a limited time before game start. The site was back up and running optimally for live scoring.
Again, we apologize for the issue. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
Andy
Thank you for playing FanDuel.
Hi there,
Thank you for submitting a support ticket. We truly apologize for the inconvenience before game start. We're currently working through a backlog of support requests and apologize for the delayed update. If you would like to request a refund for today's 1PM contests, please reply back before 10am ET Monday and confirm.
Please note that if you accept the refund option, this would be for ALL entries beginning at 1 PM. In this scenario, FanDuel will assume your entry and provide you a full refund. Note, you will not receive the winnings even if a win shows in your account. Opponents in the standings will be unaffected.
The site experienced a lag and for some users an outage for a limited time before game start. The site was back up and running optimally for live scoring.
Again, we apologize for the issue. Please let us know if you have any further questions.
Andy
Thank you for playing FanDuel.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
1/2 in 50/50s
Looking to cash in my tourny, just outside the money with McCoy (9%) and Allen (3%) to go. Should cash with 12 points combined.
Looking to cash in my tourny, just outside the money with McCoy (9%) and Allen (3%) to go. Should cash with 12 points combined.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
does anybody play the mon-thurs only games? thinking of entering a couple tonight, but would think this alters strategy slightly with a much more limited player pool.
Glad I did this...Charles was a dud. Just shows, no matter how much research you do, there's a ton of luck involved. You just hope the research puts you on the good side of luck about 60% of the time.
Sitting on cashing in 27/29 Fanduel leagues this week. Jordy/Julio/Gio/Graham combo was glorious, and the core across all lineups. Likely lose out on a few tonight, and drop lower in the tourneys I'm cashing in, but all in all, this will bring me back around even for the year after week 1 disaster.
On draftkings I had all 3 linesups around the 170 mark. Be a solid week over there too. Take more risks over there, so less cash games and more tourneys.
172.26 -- QB Jake Locker 12.26 lock RB Giovani Bernard 27.9 lock RB Shonn Greene 4 lock WR Andrew Hawkins 13 lock WR Andre Johnson P 13.4 lock WR Jordy Nelson 38.9 lock TE Jimmy Graham 36.8 lock FLEX Terrance West 17 lock DST Texans 9 lock
168.66 -- QB Ryan Fitzpatrick 13.56 lock RB Giovani Bernard 27.9 lock RB Terrance West 17 lock WR Randall Cobb 23.5 lock WR Andre Johnson P 13.4 lock WR Robert Woods 1.5 lock TE Jimmy Graham 36.8 lock FLEX Arian Foster P 26 lock DST Texans 9 lock
166.12 -- QB Colin Kaepernick 16.52 lock RB Arian Foster P 26 lock RB Terrance West 17 lock WR Randall Cobb 23.5 lock WR Michael Crabtree 21.2 lock WR Kendall Wright 6.1 lock TE Jimmy Graham 36.8 lock FLEX Joseph Fauria 3 lock DST Redskins 16 lock
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karmarooster
Footballguy
I think I've found a great way to add some juice to my cash game lineups that mimics getting more action on GPP. There is one theory of FDS wagering that says when you put money on a 50/50 lineup, you should in some way juice it so if you are near the top of the board and not just above the 50/50 cutoff, you get extra money. Basically to pay you extra for hitting a nice score rather than just the regular 50/50 win.
So in theory you put $5 on a 50/50 and then $1 or $2 on a GPP (either through a 3-player tourney, 5-player tourney, Sunday Snap, etc.). However, given that you need significantly different lineups for a cash game as compared to a true GPP tourney with 25k plus entries, it can be difficult to implement. Just kind of hitting a nice scoring cash lineup is not going to put you at the top of a big tourney with 25k entries where you need a perfect storm scenario.
Enter the 100 player and 250 player leagues. These leagues are actually less than ideal as they payout only top 12% rather than the big GPP tourney of about 17-18%. And they have capped upsides with fewer entries as compared to the games with tens of thousands of entries. But I've found that the $1 and $2 (and likely $5) 100 and 250 player leagues are filled with guys with less than 10 NFL wins, and with so few other players, having a decent cash score of 135 or something is enough to actually give you some juice ($10 on $1). I suspect that most of the good FD players avoid these leagues because the odds are not great... I've never seen a condia or mbomb lineup in these.
And unlike the big GPP games, they have these 100 and 250 player leagues for 1pm and Sunday only iterations.
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Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Meh, that kind of defeats the purpose of the 50/50 format. The winnings you "forego" if you happen to put up a big score in a 50/50 is like the premium you pay for all those weeks that you come in just over the cutline but still double your entry fee.
There's no need to create derivatives to juice your payout on a big score. Just play a bunch of H2Hs (or H2H matrices) instead if you want your winnings to scale with your score. That's why there are different contest formats.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
The iPhone app for Fanduel is pretty cool in that it shows your lineups on the Live contests page and then below each lineup is the contests that lineup is entered in with your place and a little graph. Also shows how much you currently have wagered at any time and what amount you are winning on those contests.
Was able to make a switch after Noon in the app yesterday when Carson was ruled out too...not sure if it was right before the big lag or not...or if the app was effected or not.
Def get the app if you haven't yet.
Was able to make a switch after Noon in the app yesterday when Carson was ruled out too...not sure if it was right before the big lag or not...or if the app was effected or not.
Def get the app if you haven't yet.
What percentage are you putting into each bucket?
I've found that 60% H2H, 27% 50/50 and 13% GPP is the sweet spot for me. I can make enough on the other leagues to sustain the season and keep with within a few points of break even, even with losing all GPPs. Cashing in GPPs then typically puts me over the top. Also, instead of always going for the massive payouts, mix in a few smaller tournaments. For instance, this week I'll cash on a 5 man, a 20 man and a 100 man. Much easier to cash in those for 10xs the money than it is in a massive GPP for 200xs the money, but play both to maximize the upside.
Anyone else have a good strategy for mix of games? Always trying to optimize by giving myself enough upside, while minimizing risk.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'm still getting my feet wet here, but I like that idea Nate. Basically using the 50/50s to free roll the GPPs and hope for a big hit.
hagmania
Footballguy
Exactly this. 0 for Green, but luckily in an ok spot, so long as Luck comes close to his projections.
Joe T
Footballguy
Similar for me. I had my WR1s split 50/50 between AJ Green and Marshall and given the news Sunday morning I rushed and moved almost all of my WR1s to Green. Got my ### handed to me this week. There is still a chance I win a few games depending on tonight, but big lesson learned this week on diversifying and injury reports.
sn0mm1s
Footballguy
I was diverse except for Green - he and the Washington WRs killed my week. Who knew the Redskins could put up 41 pts with Garcon and DJax combining for 2 receptions. I picked the right games - but wrong players *shrug*.Similar for me. I had my WR1s split 50/50 between AJ Green and Marshall and given the news Sunday morning I rushed and moved almost all of my WR1s to Green. Got my ### handed to me this week. There is still a chance I win a few games depending on tonight, but big lesson learned this week on diversifying and injury reports.
Tennessee_ATO
Footballguy
I'm almost dead last in the $10 FFFC qualifier. That's not easy to do. I have 4 players tonight so I'll move up out of the basement to the mezzanine.
Regardless, the Forte/Colston combo was not good. Dunno what I was thinking on Forte exactly. Figured he was an against the grain pick who would be the focal point of the offense this week.
With a reasonable performance tonight from my cash game lineups I could win everything else tho. Trying to learn this daily stuff as I go. Very interesting stuff.
Regardless, the Forte/Colston combo was not good. Dunno what I was thinking on Forte exactly. Figured he was an against the grain pick who would be the focal point of the offense this week.
With a reasonable performance tonight from my cash game lineups I could win everything else tho. Trying to learn this daily stuff as I go. Very interesting stuff.
I thought the same thing about Forte, just couldn't make it work in any of my lineups with his cost. Glad I couldn't...lucked out.
Steve Buzzard
Moderator
This is more or less what I put in my bankroll management article. I think your ratio is pretty reasonable too. I would probably allocate a little more to h2h from 50/50 but that's just me. I get too annoyed those weeks I finish in te 45 percentile and lose it all. Bankroll management is one of the most important and often overlooked aspects of DFS. Good job finding what works well for you.nastynate said:
mrip541
Footballguy
Last week I got crushed everywhere so thought I'd roll the dice a few extra times with GPPs this week in an attempt to make it up, which I know was a terrible idea. This week I was one third GPP and 2 thirds 50/50s and double ups. Not going to do that again. I should cash in literally every non-GPP (randomly dodged injuries) I entered this week but lose 80% of GPP fees.nastynate said:
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karmarooster
Footballguy
daaaamn, you always kill it. I had a decent week, to get me back to even after the week 1 disaster.
JimmyJabroni
Footballguy
Thank you Mr. Andrew Luck for doing just enough to help me win but sparing my Eagles.
