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FanDuel/DraftKings Week 10 (1 Viewer)
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JShare87
Footballguy
I don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
At $40 a pop might as well just call it the FD thread.
Pantherz
Footballguy
Hating this weeks options for the most part. Like Hill at RB for Thursday lineups, then don't like anybody else who's cheap at RB. I also hate not having Gronk as an option this week. Not sure Graham is completely back yet but have him in at the moment. I've lost trust in J Thomas since he's not getting the targets lately. Hopefully this thread will spark some discussion and bring out a few guys I'm overlooking. Sanchez is a nice option in Chip Kelly's offense. He will definitely be part of this week's plan.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
Yea, not huge on Ben.. But then again I ignored him the past two weeks and look where that got usI don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
This isn't what I plan for the FBG or double up entries.. Just my first pass of QB/WR combinations for a GPP and thought Ben + Bryant could pay off..
snogger
Footballguy
Was thinking of a possible GPP play of Sanchez + Maclin.. But dam, it is so hard to trust buttfumbler
JimmyJabroni
Footballguy
I'm also thinking of going with buttfumble for cheap QB in GPP.
If Weeden starts against Jax, maybe he'll have better week than last and be worth it.
Julio Jones had a huge game against Tampa early this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see him do it again.
If Weeden starts against Jax, maybe he'll have better week than last and be worth it.
Julio Jones had a huge game against Tampa early this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see him do it again.
Joe T
Footballguy
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Keerock
Footballguy
NYJ pass defense is awful.I don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
ebsteelers
Footballguy
might vomit writing this but.
Mettenburger and Hunter could a big upside gpp play
that lets you bulk up elsewhere.
ravens secondary is ehh at best. and if ravens get a lead it should be pass city for the titans
Mettenburger and Hunter could a big upside gpp play
that lets you bulk up elsewhere.
ravens secondary is ehh at best. and if ravens get a lead it should be pass city for the titans
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karmarooster
Footballguy
Considering the following for Thursday:
Kaep/Sanchez/Ryan
Hill/Forsett
Brown/Marshall/Benjamin/Julio/Adams
Graham/Thomas/Bennet
Kaep/Sanchez/Ryan
Hill/Forsett
Brown/Marshall/Benjamin/Julio/Adams
Graham/Thomas/Bennet
Bobcat10
Footballguy
So the multi entry double and quintuple ups seem like no brainers. Not sure I've ever noticed them mixed in with all the single entry double and quintuple ups. For the quintuple, enter 5 (or 10) entries, and if you cash 1 (or 2) you break even. Everything else is profit. Am I missing anything here (besides being left out of the money completely)?
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Tennessee_ATO
Footballguy
I'm with you. It's the kind of play that might have me frantically trying to get it changed Sunday 5 minutes before kickoff, but it does make sense.
Tennessee_ATO
Footballguy
Ding, ding, ding. This. The real problem is the Jets offense is also awful. Pitt may let up on the throttle early. That KO return by Balt was the perfect storm for Ben to get those last 2 TD passes last week. Not seeing that from the Jets.NYJ pass defense is awful.I don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
mrip541
Footballguy
Ben has the chance to set a virtually unbeatable NFL record this week. Once in forever opportunity. Just sayin'.Ding, ding, ding. This. The real problem is the Jets offense is also awful. Pitt may let up on the throttle early. That KO return by Balt was the perfect storm for Ben to get those last 2 TD passes last week. Not seeing that from the Jets.NYJ pass defense is awful.I don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
What does he need to do to set it?Ben has the chance to set a virtually unbeatable NFL record this week. Once in forever opportunity. Just sayin'.Ding, ding, ding. This. The real problem is the Jets offense is also awful. Pitt may let up on the throttle early. That KO return by Balt was the perfect storm for Ben to get those last 2 TD passes last week. Not seeing that from the Jets.NYJ pass defense is awful.I don't like Ben this week. He may do good but too many people will be chasing his past 2 performances. His price is going up and I don't think the production is going to do the same. He doesn't play as well on the road, especially against a strong defensive front like the Jets.My first plug & play $2 Gpp Lineup before fully researching
Ben Roethlisberger
Marshawn Lynch
Ronnie Hillman
Mike Evans
Martavis Bryant
Calvin Johnson
Owen Daniels
Matt Bryant
New Orleans Saints
karmarooster
Footballguy
Back to Back 6 TD games has already set the record... what other record would he be aiming for, e.g. 15 TDs in 3 games?
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I'm comparing double ups to double ups and quintuples to quintuples. Not doubles to quintuples.
For double ups I looked at $2 and $5 contests:
44.0% of entries cash in multi.
44.8% of entries cash in single.
For quintuple ups I looked at $5 contests:
17.6% of entries cash in multi.
17.9% of entries cash in single.
Maybe I'm looking at something wrong, but this data would strongly favor playing multi entry double or quintuple ups. If the max is 10 entries, then play 5 or 10 per contest. Does it matter that super sharps can play multiple lineups making it tougher to cash? Not sure if that matters at all, a little, or alot.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure you're looking at something wrong, I'm just not sure what it is. Can you explain why you think the data strongly favor these contests?
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Ya after I posted that I realized that no the conclusion doesn't make sense.
newbetterbucs07
Footballguy
You can switch Evans up with Roddy White or Percy Harvin a few times.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Some interesting options this week for GPPs on Fanduel, some thoughts:
-J. Hill should be a popular play on the Thursday games and he will be in some of my line ups. But, I am also fading him on some line ups plugging in Rainey or D. Robinson in his place.
-More on Rainey.. The Falcons are awful defending the run and Sims lurking might scare some people away. But the ceiling is too in this game for Rainey to ignore at $6700.
-There is a group of WR around $6600-$6700 I love; K. Ben, R. White, M. Evans and Percy.
-Is it really possible that a healthy Julio is only $8000 vs Tampa?
-With Sanchez running the show, Jordan Matthews becomes an option for a value WR. Both have been running as back ups so they should have a lot of work together,
-P. Manning and A. Rodgers have big price tags. But that might keep ownership down on them and leave an opening for sneaky GPP play.
-It smells like about time for Cam to rip off a huge game. Prime time, versus a weak D in what should be a fast paced game, I will have a piece of that action.
-How can you not take a shot with Big Ben vs the Jets pass D coming off back to back 6 TD game? He should be very popular, so I will run a couple line ups with Ben but not A. Brown to try and backdoor a win with a highly owned QB.
-McCoy is too cheap. He is healthy, still talented and only needs to find the end zone again to be back at an elite level.
-Tight ends..blah. Bennett is a solid play this week but overall there is not much to like. Paying up for Graham might be an option since there is not much to get excited about.
-J. Hill should be a popular play on the Thursday games and he will be in some of my line ups. But, I am also fading him on some line ups plugging in Rainey or D. Robinson in his place.
-More on Rainey.. The Falcons are awful defending the run and Sims lurking might scare some people away. But the ceiling is too in this game for Rainey to ignore at $6700.
-There is a group of WR around $6600-$6700 I love; K. Ben, R. White, M. Evans and Percy.
-Is it really possible that a healthy Julio is only $8000 vs Tampa?
-With Sanchez running the show, Jordan Matthews becomes an option for a value WR. Both have been running as back ups so they should have a lot of work together,
-P. Manning and A. Rodgers have big price tags. But that might keep ownership down on them and leave an opening for sneaky GPP play.
-It smells like about time for Cam to rip off a huge game. Prime time, versus a weak D in what should be a fast paced game, I will have a piece of that action.
-How can you not take a shot with Big Ben vs the Jets pass D coming off back to back 6 TD game? He should be very popular, so I will run a couple line ups with Ben but not A. Brown to try and backdoor a win with a highly owned QB.
-McCoy is too cheap. He is healthy, still talented and only needs to find the end zone again to be back at an elite level.
-Tight ends..blah. Bennett is a solid play this week but overall there is not much to like. Paying up for Graham might be an option since there is not much to get excited about.
Top 20 QB-Receiver stacks this week based on total expected points (average of MT, DD, SB) per dollar, in order:
[corrected]
FanDuel
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Aaron Rodgers / Davante Adams
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Josh McCown / Vincent Jackson
Mark Sanchez / Jeremy Maclin
Ben Roethlisberger / Martavis Bryant
Ben Roethlisberger / Heath Miller
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Carson Palmer / Larry Fitzgerald
Colin Kaepernick / Anquan Boldin
Colin Kaepernick / Steve Johnson
DraftKings
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Blake Bortles / Allen Robinson
Josh McCown / Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Alex Smith / Dwayne Bowe
Blake Bortles / Cecil Shorts
Derek Carr / James Jones
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Joe Flacco / Torrey Smith
Cam Newton / Greg Olsen
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Matthew Stafford / Calvin Johnson
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FanDuel
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Aaron Rodgers / Davante Adams
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Josh McCown / Vincent Jackson
Mark Sanchez / Jeremy Maclin
Ben Roethlisberger / Martavis Bryant
Ben Roethlisberger / Heath Miller
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Carson Palmer / Larry Fitzgerald
Colin Kaepernick / Anquan Boldin
Colin Kaepernick / Steve Johnson
DraftKings
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Blake Bortles / Allen Robinson
Josh McCown / Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Alex Smith / Dwayne Bowe
Blake Bortles / Cecil Shorts
Derek Carr / James Jones
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Joe Flacco / Torrey Smith
Cam Newton / Greg Olsen
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Matthew Stafford / Calvin Johnson
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Keerock
Footballguy
Hmmm... I find that this week offers better-than-usual lower priced options at TE:
Owen Daniels 5400
Larry Donnell 5300
Jason Witten 5800
Heath Miller 5300
Delanie Walker 5800
Mychal Rivera 5700
Jared Cook 4800
Luke Willson 5000
BigJohn
Footballguy
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but how is Big Ben/Brown not on the list, but Bryant and Miller are?
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
It's based on value (i.e. points per dollar). Brown costs too much, relative to his projected output.
Edit: That's my assumption, at least. Maurile would have to confirm.
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Joe T
Footballguy
Or the projected output for Brown is too low. It's hard to say without the projections.
waltj
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
I think it's actually the other way around... you would have a (very) slightly better chance of cashing in the single entry (due to a greater percentage of total entries that cash) as compared to the multi entry.Ya after I posted that I realized that no the conclusion doesn't make sense.
But, as I pointed out in the previous week thread, the cutoff score to cash may be slightly lower for the multi entry. Although the data could have been a fluke.
Oops. Thanks. Roethlisberger-Brown is actually the #1 combo. I had a stupid error that was improperly excluding the most expensive player at each position (P.Manning. A.Brown, J.Graham). I'll post the new list in a second.
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Corrected lists.
FanDuel
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Aaron Rodgers / Davante Adams
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Josh McCown / Vincent Jackson
Mark Sanchez / Jeremy Maclin
Ben Roethlisberger / Martavis Bryant
Ben Roethlisberger / Heath Miller
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Carson Palmer / Larry Fitzgerald
Colin Kaepernick / Anquan Boldin
Colin Kaepernick / Steve Johnson
DraftKings
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Blake Bortles / Allen Robinson
Josh McCown / Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Alex Smith / Dwayne Bowe
Blake Bortles / Cecil Shorts
Derek Carr / James Jones
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Joe Flacco / Torrey Smith
Cam Newton / Greg Olsen
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Matthew Stafford / Calvin Johnson
FanDuel
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Aaron Rodgers / Davante Adams
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Josh McCown / Vincent Jackson
Mark Sanchez / Jeremy Maclin
Ben Roethlisberger / Martavis Bryant
Ben Roethlisberger / Heath Miller
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Carson Palmer / Larry Fitzgerald
Colin Kaepernick / Anquan Boldin
Colin Kaepernick / Steve Johnson
DraftKings
Mark Sanchez / Zach Ertz
Mark Sanchez / Riley Cooper
Cam Newton / Kelvin Benjamin
Cam Newton / Jerricho Cotchery
Matt Ryan / Harry Douglas
Matt Ryan / Roddy White
Matt Ryan / Julio Jones
Joe Flacco / Owen Daniels
Mark Sanchez / Jordan Matthews
Blake Bortles / Allen Robinson
Josh McCown / Austin Seferian-Jenkins
Alex Smith / Dwayne Bowe
Blake Bortles / Cecil Shorts
Derek Carr / James Jones
Russell Wilson / Jermaine Kearse
Joe Flacco / Torrey Smith
Cam Newton / Greg Olsen
Josh McCown / Mike Evans
Ben Roethlisberger / Antonio Brown
Matthew Stafford / Calvin Johnson
Projections are shown on the value charts. They'll be different later, but for right now they're the same ones used to create the lists I just posted.
snellman
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Well that's why I said he "costs too much, relative to his projected output." Saying his projected output is too low for his price is basically the same as saying his price is too high for his projections. His price is fixed, so obviously if you use different projections you'll get a different list of the best values.
Skoo
Footballguy
Word out of Rotoworld yesterday was that he was a full participant in practice and could play a full load of snaps this weekend.
As someone who owns him in both leagues and has him going on DK as well, I sure hope so!
I only play on DK so I'm not up on FD prices, but either way I think he's a great play this week. With Gronk out and Thomas not getting many looks the last few weeks, he seems like easily the best option to put up big points. I think he's gonna be worth the price.
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