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Fanduel/Draftkings Week 14 (1 Viewer)
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IgglesFan
Footballguy
I think Hawkins might be the best play of anyone. Familiarity with Hoyer, single-covered with Gordan in the mix...and couple that with the fact that Hoyer will not want to throw into double-coverage in risk INTs.
In a game where the Browns are likely going to have to throw to keep pace, and with a QB wanting to make the safe play....Hawkins should see 10+ targets.
Keerock
Footballguy
I will probably use a Hoyer/Gordon stack in some cheap GPPs mostly because I assume not many people will play Hoyer.
Keerock
Footballguy
Keerock
Footballguy
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Agree with your VDavis post (although I'm not taking Gordon to the extreme as say 90% Stills last week, that's what I mean about bonkers) and your use of Hoyer here. I won't be in nearly as many GPPs as you guys, so I'll look elsewhere in mine probably, but to take a shot for the big money it's not necessarily a bad play.
snogger
Footballguy
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Keerock
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
Not that he added a lot to the game, Austin is now on IR..That just plain sux...
IMO, bumps up Hawkins a bit
Bobcat10
Footballguy
If Crow is out, my belief is West gets another shot to carry the load, but they will introduce us to Winston and who knows what happens if he gets going.
Lesson here - Cle RB situation is very murky for Thursday contests. There will likely be a nice play come Sunday though.
need2know
Footballguy
I think crowell plays this week but I wouldn't bet on west. would not surprise me to see than Winston guy split with west if Crow is out.
I think Winston was expected to get more work at West's expense even if Crowell hadn't been injured.
Shaun Draughn was also signed and could get some work if Crowell is out.
Oscar
Footballguy
Agreed. He will be the start of the week (based on value) if Rashard Jennings is out in Week 14, IMO.
Oscar
Footballguy
BigJohn
Footballguy
Newbie question. Can someone explain the strategy behind putting a lineup together for a 50/50, Double-Up, vs a Tournament? If I think I understand it, it would be you want to use a standard lineup that will get you decent points when playing the 50/50's and such. If you are playing Tourney's, you submit a lineup with more risks in order to try and hit that super high points total since it's tougher to make decent money. Or maybe I am off on that thinking...
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snellman
Footballguy
Yes, on 50/50s and Double-ups you want a consistent lineup (high floor) that will score good points because you only need to be in the top half in order to cash. Ideally you would also like higher % owned players because if 1 of your players tanks, it will affect many other owners as well (not absolutely necessary though). In a tourney lineup you need to be in the top 10% to cash and even higher if you want to cash big so you want to take a few more chances.
As been said in these threads many times, make sure you put your 50/50 or double-up lineup into a tournament. You will be kicking yourself if your 50/50 lineup hits big and you don't have it in a tourney.
David Dodds
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2014 FanDuel Cash Game Results Summarized
http://50percentds.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-fanduel-cash-game-results.html
http://50percentds.blogspot.com/2014/12/2014-fanduel-cash-game-results.html
Keerock
Footballguy
Very interesting! Funny thing is, I rarely play H2H, 50/50 or Double Ups... I may have to dabble in the latter 2 more this week. My most successful contests (and therefore the ones I play most) are 3-4 player leagues and Triple Ups (just recently started playing these more).
Contest Format Entries Wins Entry Win Profit ITM % ROI3 Player League 364 171 $3335 $4141 $806 47% 24.2%4 Player League 16 9 $100 $216 $116 56% 116.0%50/50 League 11 6 $125 $117 -$8 55% -6.4%Double Up 2 1 $15 $20 $5 50% 33.3%Head-To-Head 57 39 $427 $534 $107 68% 25.2%Triple Up 20 11 $100 $165 $65 55% 65.0%ETA: These are all $5-$25 entry contests
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Keerock
Footballguy
IgglesFan
Footballguy
I hope so. And I will stay far far away. He was terrible in his four starts with Jennings out earlier in the year, and the Giants just placed 2 starting OL on IR.
Keerock
Footballguy
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Funny (or not, really), this is literally exactly what I do. My bankroll is under $2,000, and I exclusively play $1-5 50/50s. I've posted my results before but here they are again:
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Year Wk Entered Winnings ROI2013 3 $117 $153.76 31.4%2013 4 $164 $283.60 72.9%2013 5 $269 $349.76 30.0%2013 6 $352 $343.48 - 2.4%2013 7 $342 $568.38 66.2%2013 8 $352 $201.28 -42.8%2013 9 $353 $446.92 26.6%2013 10 $411 $404.34 - 1.6%2013 11 $321 $417.84 30.2%2013 12 $351 $436.00 24.2%2013 13 $330 $417.40 26.5%2014 1 $224 $335.00 49.6%2014 2 $208 $315.00 51.4%2014 3 $377 $311.60 -17.3%2014 4 $419 $633.80 51.3%2014 5 $392 $413.80 5.6%2014 6 $540 $626.40 16.0%2014 7 $500 $682.80 36.6%2014 8 $513 $568.50 10.8%2014 9 $621 $760.00 22.4%2014 10 $578 $506.40 -12.4%2014 11 $456 $444.60 - 2.5%2014 12 $208 $273.60 31.5%
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James Daulton
Footballguy
I can't figure out the export function. It always wants me to identify a contest before I can export a lineup. Makes me feel dumb...
James Daulton
Footballguy
J Stewart looking like a nice play in tourneys this week. Low price with some decent upside.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
Not much. Last year I was spending a lot more time, and I also struggled with the fact that I wasn't really making enough money to justify the time spent (although I don't look at it strictly as a money-making exercise; for me it's a form of entertainment, and I derive enjoyment from simply picking apart a game and trying to figure out a winning strategy).
This year it's much less time-consuming thanks to tools like Maurile's interactive value charts, as well as some stuff I learned how to build myself. After doing it for a while, I also settled into a routine, got fluent with the import/export functions, etc. So in that sense it just takes me less time than it used to because I know exactly what my process is, whereas last year I was still figuring it out.
I also only play Sunday-Monday contests, so I don't have to manage multiple contest timelines.
So now I basically check in periodically during the week and enter all the $1-5 50/50s that are available, which takes less than a minute. I create a single dummy lineup and import it to all entries as I enter them. Then Saturday night or Sunday morning, I spend maybe two hours creating a variety of lineups and then exporting them to all my entries. (That's why I'm not usually contributing to the discussion when people are talking about possible lineups and value plays, etc. during the week. I honestly haven't even looked at the player list yet, and won't until Saturday night.)
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
karmarooster
Footballguy
After being quieter this year (as compared to last year), Dodd's came through with a great post on his blog comparing different game types and dollar amounts. He didn't explicitly disclose the average winning score for each game type, but that's probably implicit in the ROI covered for each. However there could be some wiggle room - if his ROI is higher for a $5 double than $10 double, it could be because the competition is tougher and the winning score higher, or because he entered sub-optimal lineups in one or the other.
Nonetheless, solid info. I had tagged a few $10 doubles for this TNF game but think I will back out and spread that around among more $1-2 50/50s and Doubles.
What do you guys make of this data point - he says $25 H2Hs are the toughest because the comp is too stiff. He's got a negative ROI. But his $25 doubles are awesome, with ROI above 25% - better than $10 doubles.
Also comparing his ROI on 50/50s vs. Doubles - e.g. his $2 doubles have a higher ROI than $2 50/50s, same for $5. However, at $10 it flips - apparently the $10 double is one of the tougher games.
There's a lot of useful data there, but some that isn't but would be useful: comparison single vs. multi entries as we have done recently, and drill down with avg. winning score as separate from ROI. ROI may be a factor of how optimal the lineup used is where as the avg. score is easy to compare. Obviously it may be harder to gather that info.
Nonetheless, solid info. I had tagged a few $10 doubles for this TNF game but think I will back out and spread that around among more $1-2 50/50s and Doubles.
What do you guys make of this data point - he says $25 H2Hs are the toughest because the comp is too stiff. He's got a negative ROI. But his $25 doubles are awesome, with ROI above 25% - better than $10 doubles.
Also comparing his ROI on 50/50s vs. Doubles - e.g. his $2 doubles have a higher ROI than $2 50/50s, same for $5. However, at $10 it flips - apparently the $10 double is one of the tougher games.
There's a lot of useful data there, but some that isn't but would be useful: comparison single vs. multi entries as we have done recently, and drill down with avg. winning score as separate from ROI. ROI may be a factor of how optimal the lineup used is where as the avg. score is easy to compare. Obviously it may be harder to gather that info.
Tennessee_ATO
Footballguy
Karma, I agree. I haven't had the time to really digest the info, but the difference between the lower dollar and $10 double ups was startling to me. I've been playing a ton of $10 double ups. No more.
I also think knowing the average winning score for each price/contest type would be extremely useful to have. I know that this past week my $10 double ups had higher winning scores than my $2 GPP plays.
I also think knowing the average winning score for each price/contest type would be extremely useful to have. I know that this past week my $10 double ups had higher winning scores than my $2 GPP plays.
karmarooster
Footballguy
There is some argument that playing 1 x $10 game is better than playing 10 x $1 games, for reasons related to rake which I don't fully understand. but the distinction is probably minimal and certainly not enough to cover the disparity evidenced by Dodds' ROIs.
karmarooster
Footballguy
I'm mixing Landry with Wallace. They each had the same number of Targets last week, Wallace is a better bet for a TD, and he's got to catch a long bomb at some point, right?90% of my cash lineups right now have at 2 of the 3 Landry, Stills, Bailey
I got Stills in several again.
Have you considered Boldin v. Oakland over Bailey? I just can't trust the Rams. What if Britt is the play for this game? Or Austin?
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Keerock
Footballguy
So you guys think playing 5-$2 double ups has a better chance of winning than playing 1-$10 double up?
Keerock
Footballguy
I feel I can trust the Rams more than I can trust SF... but you're right, and that was the point of my post... I need to mix it upI'm mixing Landry with Wallace. They each had the same number of Targets last week, Wallace is a better bet for a TD, and he's got to catch a long bomb at some point, right?90% of my cash lineups right now have at 2 of the 3 Landry, Stills, Bailey
I got Stills in several again.
Have you considered Boldin v. Oakland with Bailey? I just can't trust the Rams. What if Britt is the play for this game?
