Fantasy Instant Replay Challenges (1 Viewer)

[Shaolin Hangman]

I've been reflecting recently about how much instant replay has helped to improve the NFL, and it got me to thinking about whether or not instant replay could similarly improve fantasy football. Almost everyone's got a computer and video editing software - that's all over the place - and video replays are similarly ubiquitous.

The more I thought of it the more convinced I've gotten that it can, and so much so that I'm instituting it in my 24-team dynasty, deep roster, inverted flex scoring, flex auction, flex lineup, all-play, salary cap, PPR, IDP, PPO, big money league that I'm the commissioner in.

Here's the deal:

You keep scoring as you have before, resulting in final scores after the game is over (and still subject to the official scoring adjustments).

By no later than midnight Monday (or midday Tuesday for MNF games), if you have a video clip that you've found that shows clear evidence that a play for which a player got points should not have resulted in those points, then you submit that to the commissioner and two others on the Replay Committee describing in detail the challenge. If they unanimously agree that the play should be overturned, those points are then removed. The Replay Committee then issues a detailed written ruling.

Teams will be limited to two challenges per regular season, and one in the post-season. They don't carry over to subsequent years if left unused.

I can't wait to see this system in action. The test runs we did in our league this year ironed out the wrinkles and seemed to make everyone happy, aside from the predictable complaining about individual replay rulings.

We've all been the victims over the course of our fantasy careers of phantom TD's, and even properly challenged plays where the replay booth just flat out wimps out and doesn't overturn a play when they should. This will help to fix that once and for all.

I'll update this as it unfolds in 2010.

 

[trader jake]

Good luck with that.

 

[bostonfred]

My main league has had this in its rules for the last three years, and it's worked great so far! Lots of fun, and it's created some spirited discussion without much controversy. The most important part is that we put it up to a league vote so we know the results aren't biased.

 

[Mario Kart]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

 

[Beanie Baby]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

 

[Topes]

The most important part is that we put it up to a league vote so we know the results aren't biased.

 

[teamroc]

The most important part is that we put it up to a league vote so we know the results aren't biased.

Yeah no chance of bias there. *lol*

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

My main league has had this in its rules for the last three years, and it's worked great so far! Lots of fun, and it's created some spirited discussion without much controversy. The most important part is that we put it up to a league vote so we know the results aren't biased.

Please PM me your league's rules regarding instant replay. I want to compare them. TIA.

 

[Total Richard]

Congratulations. This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard of.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

 

[Ned]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

awesome

 

[jackdubl]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

 

[FDAS]

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

 

[gianmarco]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

This thread is oozing goodness.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

This thread is oozing goodness.

I gather that you're making fun of this system? Fine, laugh all you want but our league at least will get things right and will eliminate the disputes and dissatisfaction that comes from bad play-calls on the field.

 

[Mario Kart]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

Well, let me tell you something. The rules are you described we followed to a "T". If "A" does not happen or is negated, then "B" cannot happen for which follows "-A". Therefore, the game is wiped out. Another instance this season, not involving me, happened in a game with Warner at QB. Warner threw a TD pass, I forget to whom, but there was a blatant holding on the LT that was not called. Almost immediately after that play, our MFL message board had a post from the guy playing the guy who started Warner. The post began, "I am throwing a penalty flag on the LT for holding on the Warner TD." Our 3-person committee looked over the play, thanks YouTube, and there was clearly holding. The penalty counted and in our fantasy league the TD was taken away as were the yards.

Following the first scenario, this play happened in the 2nd quarter by the way, the rest of the game was thrown out as well due to the "if no A, then no B" theorem. So, Warner's production, due to a blown referee call, was now negated from our fantasy score.

I don't see how anyone can not understand this.

 

[Moniker]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

This thread is oozing goodness.

I gather that you're making fun of this system? Fine, laugh all you want but our league at least will get things right and will eliminate the disputes and dissatisfaction that comes from bad play-calls on the field.

Best one yet...

 

[jackdubl]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

Well, let me tell you something. The rules are you described we followed to a "T". If "A" does not happen or is negated, then "B" cannot happen for which follows "-A". Therefore, the game is wiped out. Another instance this season, not involving me, happened in a game with Warner at QB. Warner threw a TD pass, I forget to whom, but there was a blatant holding on the LT that was not called. Almost immediately after that play, our MFL message board had a post from the guy playing the guy who started Warner. The post began, "I am throwing a penalty flag on the LT for holding on the Warner TD." Our 3-person committee looked over the play, thanks YouTube, and there was clearly holding. The penalty counted and in our fantasy league the TD was taken away as were the yards.

Following the first scenario, this play happened in the 2nd quarter by the way, the rest of the game was thrown out as well due to the "if no A, then no B" theorem. So, Warner's production, due to a blown referee call, was now negated from our fantasy score.

I don't see how anyone can not understand this.

You guys throw out a whole game if a penalty isn't called!?! I'm sorry, but that's freakin' INSANE! You guys may not have a game score all season. Any time you're losing a game just look for a holding call that wasn't penalized, must be like 5-10 a game, and then you can have that game thrown out. I don't think that's the system the OP was talking about, my friend.

 

[gianmarco]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

Well, let me tell you something. The rules are you described we followed to a "T". If "A" does not happen or is negated, then "B" cannot happen for which follows "-A". Therefore, the game is wiped out. Another instance this season, not involving me, happened in a game with Warner at QB. Warner threw a TD pass, I forget to whom, but there was a blatant holding on the LT that was not called. Almost immediately after that play, our MFL message board had a post from the guy playing the guy who started Warner. The post began, "I am throwing a penalty flag on the LT for holding on the Warner TD." Our 3-person committee looked over the play, thanks YouTube, and there was clearly holding. The penalty counted and in our fantasy league the TD was taken away as were the yards.

Following the first scenario, this play happened in the 2nd quarter by the way, the rest of the game was thrown out as well due to the "if no A, then no B" theorem. So, Warner's production, due to a blown referee call, was now negated from our fantasy score.

I don't see how anyone can not understand this.

You guys throw out a whole game if a penalty isn't called!?! I'm sorry, but that's freakin' INSANE! You guys may not have a game score all season. Any time you're losing a game just look for a holding call that wasn't penalized, must be like 5-10 a game, and then you can have that game thrown out. I don't think that's the system the OP was talking about, my friend.

the fun never stops.......

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

My main league has had this in its rules for the last three years, and it's worked great so far! Lots of fun, and it's created some spirited discussion without much controversy. The most important part is that we put it up to a league vote so we know the results aren't biased.

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

 

[Pack43]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos. :(

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos. :(

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

 

[CaptainHook]

hahahah this is genius. though its not completely fair because if its for example a td from the 1 theres a good chance the guy gets in on the next play had they called it correctly.

im definitely proposing some variation of this rule next year.

 

[Pack43]

This has worked out well for us the past four years as well. The one time I got bit was this past year when Brees had his 6 TD game. I had Brees but there was a penalty on the first scoring drive that was challenged in our league. The results of the penalty were wrong so the score on the first drive did not count due to the penalty not being called correctly. Since that one was overturned, the whole game had to be overturned because the other 5 TD would never have happened if that one penalty was called correctly. Sucked for me because I lost all 6 TDs that Brees threw that day. I still won my league because I am an FBG but that week hurt.

What the #### are you talking about?

You only overturn the plays you directly observe were not called correctly. Otherwise you have chaos.

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

So, basically the owner doesn't get the TD he would have probably gotten on the very next play had the call been correct. Yeah, sounds fair

 

[CrossEyed]

So, basically the owner doesn't get the TD he would have probably gotten on the very next play had the call been correct. Yeah, sounds fair

Duh, you give the TD to the backup fullback, who clearly would have been brought in on the next play in a genius move of trickeration.

 

[jackdubl]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

 

[CrossEyed]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

Gonna have to check the replay.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

I don't see how that's any less fair than letting an unearned TD stand. There are plenty of goalline substitutions, turnovers, goalline stands, play-calls to other players, etc. that don't allow you to assume anything about what another play would bring. Better to let what really happened dictate your fantasy football scores.

 

[Pack43]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

I don't see how that's any less fair than letting an unearned TD stand. There are plenty of goalline substitutions, turnovers, goalline stands, play-calls to other players, etc. that don't allow you to assume anything about what another play would bring. Better to let what really happened dictate your fantasy football scores.

How about this? Your RB is ruled down at the 1-foot line but replay shows he scored. He then scores on the next play. You challenge and get 2 TDs.

 

[jackdubl]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

I don't see how that's any less fair than letting an unearned TD stand. There are plenty of goalline substitutions, turnovers, goalline stands, play-calls to other players, etc. that don't allow you to assume anything about what another play would bring. Better to let what really happened dictate your fantasy football scores.

Yeah, but in your scenario what really happened what the guy scored a touchdown. So that should dictate by your own words.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

I don't see how that's any less fair than letting an unearned TD stand. There are plenty of goalline substitutions, turnovers, goalline stands, play-calls to other players, etc. that don't allow you to assume anything about what another play would bring. Better to let what really happened dictate your fantasy football scores.

Yeah, but in your scenario what really happened what the guy scored a touchdown. So that should dictate by your own words.

No, he didn't score a TD. You're assuming a new reality, which probably means I should stop arguing with you.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

I think you have chaos anyway since opportunities to make up the points are taken away by the call on the field. What happens when a RB is credited with a TD on a 1st down carry but replay shows he was down at the 1-foot line?

You lose the TD and the yardage from that play. Pretty obvious, right?

No, you can't do that, because the RB probably runs it in on the next play if he was down at the 1-foot-line, but your system takes away the whole touchdown. That convinced me that this whole idea is a bad one. You can't wipe out what did happen in favor of what didn't happen while also ignoring what would've happened if what didn't happen had happened. You got that?

I don't see how that's any less fair than letting an unearned TD stand. There are plenty of goalline substitutions, turnovers, goalline stands, play-calls to other players, etc. that don't allow you to assume anything about what another play would bring. Better to let what really happened dictate your fantasy football scores.

How about this? Your RB is ruled down at the 1-foot line but replay shows he scored. He then scores on the next play. You challenge and get 2 TDs.

In that situation, there's nothing to undo. He gets his TD, and his yardage ends up being the same too.

 

[jackdubl]

Yeah, but in your scenario what really happened what the guy scored a touchdown. So that should dictate by your own words.

No, he didn't score a TD. You're assuming a new reality, which probably means I should stop arguing with you.

News flash: if the NFL scoreboard says he scored a TD, then that's reality. Not if you and your committee sitting at home decide he didn't score. Your problem still remains. You take away the touchdown when the guy was down at the 1-foot-line. Therefore, the fantasy team loses the touchdown and does not get an oppurtunity to get it back, because the next play is the extra point. Whereas the team would have run another play if they were really down at the 1-foot-line. So you ignore reality(where he scored) and you also ignore reality in your made-up universe(where he didn't score). Believe me, I'd be peeo'd as all heck if your committee tried to erase my score because you didn't like the call. This system seems way worse than just letting the game happened the way it happened, in reality.

 

[jackdubl]

about this? Your RB is ruled down at the 1-foot line but replay shows he scored. He then scores on the next play. You challenge and get 2 TDs.

In that situation, there's nothing to undo. He gets his TD, and his yardage ends up being the same too.

What if the QB throws a TD, but they wrongly call it incomplete. Then the team ends up running it in. Does your system give a score to the WR and take it away for the RB? Or do you give both players tds, even though only one score happened? What if the QB throws a pass but the receiver was interfered with and they missed the call? Do you give him the yards, maybe a td, even though you don't know if he would have caught the ball?Seems like there are infinite ways this could cause chaos.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

about this? Your RB is ruled down at the 1-foot line but replay shows he scored. He then scores on the next play. You challenge and get 2 TDs.

In that situation, there's nothing to undo. He gets his TD, and his yardage ends up being the same too.

What if the QB throws a TD, but they wrongly call it incomplete. Then the team ends up running it in. Does your system give a score to the WR and take it away for the RB? Or do you give both players tds, even though only one score happened? What if the QB throws a pass but the receiver was interfered with and they missed the call? Do you give him the yards, maybe a td, even though you don't know if he would have caught the ball?Seems like there are infinite ways this could cause chaos.

Chaos? There's nothing that's happening here that's any more chaotic than your RB trying and failing to run the ball in, resulting in zero points, followed by a TD pass to the TE on the next play. Your guy didn't score. Them's the breaks. Get over it.

 

[jackdubl]

Chaos? There's nothing that's happening here that's any more chaotic than your RB trying and failing to run the ball in, resulting in zero points, followed by a TD pass to the TE on the next play. Your guy didn't score. Them's the breaks. Get over it.

I thought you said the refs ruled it a touchdown even though your league ruled it down at the 1-foot-line. There ain't no TD pass to the TE if the refs ruled the RB scored. There's just no touchdown, and then there must also be no extra point for the kicker, right?

 

[Mario Kart]

If no "A", then no "B".

To answer another poster. Many of our scores end up in the low hundreds because an owner has to pick one game to watch all weekend and can only throw flags in one game during the weekend. Therefore, teams tend to not start more than one player per team in any given week in hopes of not getting a full game thrown out. It is a wild chess game between what game to pick and when to throw the flag. Our league is awesome because there is no chaos at all.

I still cannot understand how anyone can play in a league that does not allow fantasy replay. Last year I went back to a league that did not have replay and I hated it. I really wish I had a 5-digit member number to spread my intelligence but them's the breaks.

 

[jackdubl]

To answer another poster. Many of our scores end up in the low hundreds because an owner has to pick one game to watch all weekend and can only throw flags in one game during the weekend. Therefore, teams tend to not start more than one player per team in any given week in hopes of not getting a full game thrown out. It is a wild chess game between what game to pick and when to throw the flag. Our league is awesome because there is no chaos at all.I still cannot understand how anyone can play in a league that does not allow fantasy replay. Last year I went back to a league that did not have replay and I hated it. I really wish I had a 5-digit member number to spread my intelligence but them's the breaks.

Sounds great.

 

[Mario Kart]

To answer another poster. Many of our scores end up in the low hundreds because an owner has to pick one game to watch all weekend and can only throw flags in one game during the weekend. Therefore, teams tend to not start more than one player per team in any given week in hopes of not getting a full game thrown out. It is a wild chess game between what game to pick and when to throw the flag. Our league is awesome because there is no chaos at all.I still cannot understand how anyone can play in a league that does not allow fantasy replay. Last year I went back to a league that did not have replay and I hated it. I really wish I had a 5-digit member number to spread my intelligence but them's the breaks.

Sounds great.

It is, it really is. FBG should adopt this into their projections and draft analysis.

 

[Mr.Pack]

Yeah, but in your scenario what really happened what the guy scored a touchdown. So that should dictate by your own words.

No, he didn't score a TD. You're assuming a new reality, which probably means I should stop arguing with you.

News flash: if the NFL scoreboard says he scored a TD, then that's reality. Not if you and your committee sitting at home decide he didn't score. Your problem still remains. You take away the touchdown when the guy was down at the 1-foot-line. Therefore, the fantasy team loses the touchdown and does not get an oppurtunity to get it back, because the next play is the extra point. Whereas the team would have run another play if they were really down at the 1-foot-line. So you ignore reality(where he scored) and you also ignore reality in your made-up universe(where he didn't score). Believe me, I'd be peeo'd as all heck if your committee tried to erase my score because you didn't like the call. This system seems way worse than just letting the game happened the way it happened, in reality.

You're just wrong. This is a great way to make things right. Things refs miss during a game.I am going to try and implement this next year in my league.

 

[jackdubl]

So if that Ravens/Pats game had been during the season, then that game would be wiped out, right? The Pats recovered a fumble in the first half and scored to Edelmen off of it, but the replay showed the guy didn't get possession of the fumble in bounds. You guys would just wipe that game out from the point of the fumble? So now watching the rest of the game is useless for fantasy purposes. You guys may like that system but I'll pass. I like to watch the whole game.

 

[Moniker]

I love this thread.

 

[Pack43]

Yeah, but in your scenario what really happened what the guy scored a touchdown. So that should dictate by your own words.

No, he didn't score a TD. You're assuming a new reality, which probably means I should stop arguing with you.

News flash: if the NFL scoreboard says he scored a TD, then that's reality. Not if you and your committee sitting at home decide he didn't score. Your problem still remains. You take away the touchdown when the guy was down at the 1-foot-line. Therefore, the fantasy team loses the touchdown and does not get an oppurtunity to get it back, because the next play is the extra point. Whereas the team would have run another play if they were really down at the 1-foot-line. So you ignore reality(where he scored) and you also ignore reality in your made-up universe(where he didn't score). Believe me, I'd be peeo'd as all heck if your committee tried to erase my score because you didn't like the call. This system seems way worse than just letting the game happened the way it happened, in reality.

You're just wrong. This is a great way to make things right. Things refs miss during a game.I am going to try and implement this next year in my league.

Beyond the fact that this creates problems by removing/adding future scoring opportunities, this just seems like a lot of trouble to keep up with. I mean you have to remove points from the player that scord, subsequent points from the kicker, potentially add points back to the defense that gave up the score, etc. Seems like a lot of trouble and opportunity for errors.

 

[Pack43]

So if that Ravens/Pats game had been during the season, then that game would be wiped out, right? The Pats recovered a fumble in the first half and scored to Edelmen off of it, but the replay showed the guy didn't get possession of the fumble in bounds. You guys would just wipe that game out from the point of the fumble? So now watching the rest of the game is useless for fantasy purposes. You guys may like that system but I'll pass. I like to watch the whole game.

Seems like the best strategy one could have is to watch the game of the best player your opponent has and try to find a play to challenge and have the game wiped out. Just find a missed hold, block in the back, etc and then slap ADP or CJ3 with a 0 for the day.

 

[jackdubl]

So if that Ravens/Pats game had been during the season, then that game would be wiped out, right? The Pats recovered a fumble in the first half and scored to Edelmen off of it, but the replay showed the guy didn't get possession of the fumble in bounds. You guys would just wipe that game out from the point of the fumble? So now watching the rest of the game is useless for fantasy purposes. You guys may like that system but I'll pass. I like to watch the whole game.

Seems like the best strategy one could have is to watch the game of the best player your opponent has and try to find a play to challenge and have the game wiped out. Just find a missed hold, block in the back, etc and then slap ADP or CJ3 with a 0 for the day.

Exactly. You'd better believe I'd be recording as many of my opponents games as I could stand, then just look for the penalty in the game of his highest scorer. That's not fantasy football.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

In theory it seems as though it could be good, but I think wiping out games, plays, etc is ridiculous. I mean way to many loop holes, and to think this would not add more chaos is wrong.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

I have been entertained in reading this thread.

And to the extent that the OP (Original Poster) has been simply jerking all of our chains with this FLAWED idea then kudos to him.

If anyone is actually taking this idea seriously I think that you should simply consider replaying all of the NFL games each year in Madden. Call all of your own plays. No bad calls by the refs. All stats precisely counted and can then be accurately applied to your respective fantasy scoring system.

However, applying this concept to an actual Fantasy League is clearly the WORST idea that I have ever seen or heard in over a dozen years of playing fantasy sports in many leagues.

 

[Shaolin Hangman]

So if that Ravens/Pats game had been during the season, then that game would be wiped out, right? The Pats recovered a fumble in the first half and scored to Edelmen off of it, but the replay showed the guy didn't get possession of the fumble in bounds. You guys would just wipe that game out from the point of the fumble? So now watching the rest of the game is useless for fantasy purposes. You guys may like that system but I'll pass. I like to watch the whole game.

Reading comprehension isn't your thing. Nobody is saying wipe out the hole game, just the play being reviewed.

 

[jackdubl]

So if that Ravens/Pats game had been during the season, then that game would be wiped out, right? The Pats recovered a fumble in the first half and scored to Edelmen off of it, but the replay showed the guy didn't get possession of the fumble in bounds. You guys would just wipe that game out from the point of the fumble? So now watching the rest of the game is useless for fantasy purposes. You guys may like that system but I'll pass. I like to watch the whole game.

Reading comprehension isn't your thing. Nobody is saying wipe out the hole game, just the play being reviewed.

Mario Kart is saying wipe out the whole game. I'll accept your apology for insulting my reading skills after you read the thread. But since we both agree that is nonsense, how would you correct the Ravens/Pats game? I assume you take away a fumble recovery from the Pats defense, but is that the end of it?