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Bradshaw is a top 10 back on pretty much every team in the NFL, does moving to Miami help or hurt his numbers at all? Do you think his time share will be comparable to when he was in NYG?
I'd guess he'd see the same number of touches im Miami as he would in NY.
Orton, I was under the impression the deal with Denver was all but done.Btw, Bump brandon marshall
I am not sure if this is good or bad tbh. If Orton is there, then I think the Miami offense will be a lot better than last year. However, the Giants OL seems to be a really strong run block line compared to MIA--that's my impression anyway. Touches? Thomas and Jacobs seem like a wash as far as challenging for touches. Will Miami throw the ball to Bradshaw more? He is really deadly catching the ball out of the backfield by the Giants don't do that much. The only way I could see this being better than NY is if Miami would pass to him more.
Not to me. Jacobs was a completely different kind of player, a nice compliment to Bradshaw, and a proven vet. Thomas, so far, is a guy the Dolphins drafted.
That's a pretty bold statement right there. I'd argue he isn't a top-10 back on any team, but he is probably better than anything else Miami has at the moment. I do think Thomas would be a greater threat to Bradshaw than Jacobs is, and NY has a better offense than Miami whther its Henne or Orton behind center. I think the best thing for Bradshaw's fantasy value, among the teams who have been mentioned as suitors, is to stay in NY.
Thomas is a rookie who hasn't had the benefit of any OTAs. Blocking alone will likely keep him on the sidelines in 2011 if the team has a strong veteran.
I agree. That's why I think he gets a bigger slice of the pie in MIA. Question is, is it a bigger slice of a smaller pie?
And it will depend on what kind of deal Bradshaw gets....IF it is D-Will money he'll be the man there no matter what.
I don't know the answer to the size of the pie, but my gut feeling would be bigger slice of a smaller pie. Long term I like NY better too because while I don't think Thomas will challenge for too many carries vs a good vet this season, long term, he has much more upside than anyone else in NY.
If Miami is pushing for him that hard they don't view Bradshaw as the lesser part of a timeshare.
Was referring to fantasy if it matters.I dont own him in any leagues, but im hard pressed to name 10 better backs in ppr. 1235 yds 8 TDs 47 receptions in 2010.
The offensive lines graded out equal last season in runblocking. The giants were offensive line was ranked 17th, and the Dolphins offensive line was ranked 16th.http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/07/13/2010-offensive-line-rankings-%E2%80%93-part-2/
I owned Brown and Bradshaw last year. I love ProFootballFocus, but I find it hard to believe those two offensive lines blocked equally as well.
My first impulse is to agree with you, but I don't know. I heard a stat from FO on the radio last night that said Ronnie Brown was one of the worst rb's in the league wrt plays where the oline blocked well and created a running lane. (I forget what the exact metric was called.)
I don't see it that way. I think Jacobs is/was on the decline and Bradshaw was becoming the clear #1. Thomas, although a big back as well, still has fresh legs. I wouldn't put it past Miami to split things pretty evenly. If they're still looking to run the wildcat, I don't think you can assume they make Bradshaw the bellcow. I still see it as a 1a/1b scenario.
Well all of my interest went out the window, of RB/WR combos out there Nicks Bradshaw isnt the worst, I just dont wanna own both of them on the same team.
Is Omar Kelly a MIA insider or beat reporter? How does he know? Thanks for the infor Mass raider.
MIA beat reporter.
Right, by time I figured out what I was going to say it changed.
Is speculation no longer allowed?Jason La Canfora's wording in his blurb was pretty convincing I believe yesterday the Giants said they didnt wanna pay Bradshaw what he wanted, so I assumed the first team to go after him hard would get him.
There are a lot of threads about speculation. lolIf you don't like these threads cluttering the board, don't bump them. lolThis forum is about fantasy football and general NFL talk. This thread qualifies on both counts. lol
I don't see a problem with owning both Bradshaw and Nicks, on the same team or not.
The title of the thread, however, should be much clearer. Title makes it sound like he already signed.
I owned Bradshaw and Nicks in one of my leagues and I got hosed in the playoffs, Nicks got injured and Bradshaw suffered Tom Coughlins wrath for fumbling the ball...
... a lot
Tough luck for sure, but them being on the same team had nothing to do with what happened.
And a poor one
How many O-Line starters are going to be back? I think I remember seeing multiple NYG Lineman cut already.
Nah, speculation is fine...but do you not see anything odd about talking about "what ifs", with a lot of "for sures" being done.Can I start a thread about the Repercussions of the Lions getting Nnamdi? lol
