Fate of NFL is in Good hands (1 Viewer)

[Barry Jive and The Uptown Five]

Clayton's ESPN Article on the CBA / Tagliabue

I found this a very interesting read. Tagliabue is giving the owners an education in History of NFL Labor 101.

I sincerely hope the "have's" are listening down in Dallas. Clayton reminded me of the fact that a majority of the current NFL owners have never experienced Labor unrest like the old guard experienced back in the 80's. The fact that the league has gone approximately 20 years without serious labor issues is a testament to Tagliabue's legacy. I seriously can't imagine what will happen to the NFL if the CBA is not done today. With Shell & Tags in the twilight of their careers, this chance may never come again.

Owners!

Vote

 

[beto]

It's in God's hands now.

 

[Jason Wood]

Tags is without question a Hall of Famer commissioner, but it's out of his hands now. He and Upshaw have never been at odds [they're the antithesis of Fehr and Selig], but in the past the owners were more willing to follow a consensus; often one that Tags put forth.

 

[BigRed]

Tags is without question a Hall of Famer commissioner,

Up-front apologies realize I may get "zapped" for this, but that is absolutely one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read @ FBG. That's even dumber than the Steve McNair/Rod Smith/etc etc HOF threads. Let's see.....over-doing expansion thus diluting the league (and wanting to do even more, to great NFL hotbeds like uhhhhhh Mexico), coddling players like Owens, the numerous felons, etc etc and ad nauseum.....yeah impressive

:X

I'll grant you he knows some about the business end, but he knows absolutely nothing (nor I suspect cares) whatsoever about the sport itself, ie the "spirit of the game" (for lack of a better term). He should be the NFL's main accountant or at most the commissioner's executive assistant or some similar geeky job.....not it's alleged "leader."

 

[Despyzer]

Up-front apologies realize I may get "zapped" for this, but that is absolutely one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read @ FBG. That's even dumber than the Steve McNair/Rod Smith/etc etc HOF threads.

Let's see.....over-doing expansion thus diluting the league (and wanting to do even more, to great NFL hotbeds like uhhhhhh Mexico), coddling players like Owens, the numerous felons, etc etc and ad nauseum.....yeah impressive

:X

I'll grant you he knows some about the business end, but he knows absolutely nothing (nor I suspect cares) whatsoever about the sport itself, ie the "spirit of the game" (for lack of a better term). He should be the NFL's main accountant or at most the commissioner's executive assistant or some similar geeky job.....not it's alleged "leader."

Not going to "zap" you, but I think he has done a pretty good job overall. Pete Rozelle had the league in pretty good shape when he stepped down, but pro football was a step behind baseball, a half-step behind college football, and about even with the NBA at the time. Now, every other league is suffering to get ratings and the NFL is the top dog on the national sports scene without question. Tagliabue had the good sense to see through with Rozelle's vision, was a step ahead of the steroids controversy, and (up until this point) has steered clear of any labor disagreements.The exapnsion argument actually works in Tags' favor seeing every market is ridiculously prosperous. It was obviously right for the NFL, even though it wasn't for most other leagues.

His exploration of foreign markets in an ever-diminshing world may be just the forward-thinking leadership that the NFL needs to take it to the next step.

I'm not even sure where the "coddling" remark comes from. Specifically, what did you have in mind?

 

[roadkill1292]

Holding a diverse group of owners together and guiding them through umpteen years of increasing popularity and labor peace is an amazing accomplishment.

If Tags is struggling now it's because of circumstances somewhat beyond his control: an ever widening disparity of wealth within the group of 32 owners. Their differences are understandable though perhaps unavoidable.

 

[Jason Wood]

Tags is without question a Hall of Famer commissioner,

Up-front apologies realize I may get "zapped" for this, but that is absolutely one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read @ FBG. That's even dumber than the Steve McNair/Rod Smith/etc etc HOF threads. Let's see.....over-doing expansion thus diluting the league (and wanting to do even more, to great NFL hotbeds like uhhhhhh Mexico), coddling players like Owens, the numerous felons, etc etc and ad nauseum.....yeah impressive

:X

I'll grant you he knows some about the business end, but he knows absolutely nothing (nor I suspect cares) whatsoever about the sport itself, ie the "spirit of the game" (for lack of a better term). He should be the NFL's main accountant or at most the commissioner's executive assistant or some similar geeky job.....not it's alleged "leader."

Hey BigRed,You're entitled to your opinion, but you might want to educate yourself on what Tagliabue has accomplished before you speak to passionately about the matter. He's single handedly overseen five extensions of the CBA, has the only major sport that hasn't suffered a work stoppage in the last 15 years, oversaw the creation of free agency and a salary cap, created unprecedented revenue growth [while maintaining a framework for EVERY NFL team to be profitable, even with expansion], unified the ownership and consolidated power [a key toward the string of labor peace], and has his league atop the nation in virtually every metric.

For a guy that doesn't understand the "spirit of the game", he's sure orchestrated a situation that appeals to the majority of the sports FANS. Furthermore, one of the real measures of a great leader is the ability to create consensus. No one in professional sports [in the U.S. at least] has come close to matching his abilities in that regard.

 

[trader jake]

good post woodrow

tags is the man

 

[MarshallRob]

Of the five previous men to serve as NFL President/Commissioner--Jim Thorpe, Joe Carr, Elmer Layden, Bert Bell, and Pete Rozelle--only Layden isn't in the Hall so Tagliabue has a pretty good shot I would think.

 

[Purpulhippo999]

tagliabue is def. a HOF commish

read the article about him in SI and you will then know

 

[Couch Potato]

It's possible Tags might even be greater than WWF and XFL Commish Vince McMahon. They were neck and neck until this deal got done (I'm being a smart aleck, but McMahon actually made a helluva impact on pro wrestling).

 

[Da Guru]

It was Gods will.

Jerry Jones promised Tags that 22 Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders (non-virgin) would be waiting for him in heaven if he got this deal done!

 

[ffnut]

It was Gods will.

Jerry Jones promised Tags that 22 Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders (non-virgin) would be waiting for him in heaven if he got this deal done!

 

[B-Deep]

Hey BigRed,

You're entitled to your opinion, but you might want to educate yourself on what Tagliabue has accomplished before you speak to passionately about the matter. He's single handedly overseen five extensions of the CBA, has the only major sport that hasn't suffered a work stoppage in the last 15 years, oversaw the creation of free agency and a salary cap, created unprecedented revenue growth [while maintaining a framework for EVERY NFL team to be profitable, even with expansion], unified the ownership and consolidated power [a key toward the string of labor peace], and has his league atop the nation in virtually every metric.

For a guy that doesn't understand the "spirit of the game", he's sure orchestrated a situation that appeals to the majority of the sports FANS. Furthermore, one of the real measures of a great leader is the ability to create consensus. No one in professional sports [in the U.S. at least] has come close to matching his abilities in that regard.

I could put about 43 good posting smileys here.

 

[Capella]

It's always good practice guys, that if BigRed is on one side of the debate, you should be on the other.