Father kicks 6 yo Son down Skateboard ramp (1 Viewer)

[JaxBill]

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A video of a man kicking his child off a ramp at a local skate park is causing an uproar Saturday on social media.

The video, which was originally posted Friday by Ryan Stephens (Intsagram user @lilbubs) shows Marcus Crossland kicking his 6-year-old son down a skateboard ramp nicknamed Big Brown at Kona Skate Park in Arlington.

The video was shared by a popular Jacksonville Instagram account, IGersJax, and was circulated around other social media sites Saturday.

"Unfortunately parents get so enthusiastic about their kids and their abilities in skateboarding, or baseball, or football or whatever and sometimes they take it a little too far," Martin Ramos, Kona's operator, said.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/local/2014/04/26/kid-skateboard-video-kona-skatepark-kick/8205523/

http://www.news4jax.com/news/possible-child-abuse-shot-posted-on-instagram/25672968

 

[mr roboto]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

 

[mr roboto]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

You think he should be charged with abuse? I think that would be extreme in this case.

 

[bigbottom]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

You think he should be charged with abuse? I think that would be extreme in this case.

At a minimum, I think he should be kicked off the roof of his house.

 

[mr roboto]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

You think he should be charged with abuse? I think that would be extreme in this case.

At a minimum, I think he should be kicked off the roof of his house.

I'd be down with that.

 

[Abraham]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

You think he should be charged with abuse? I think that would be extreme in this case.

At a minimum, I think he should be kicked off the roof of his house.

getting kicked down the ramp was bad enough. I can't believe you think he should get kicked again.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Lot of jumping to conclusions here.

The video only shows the kick not what led up to it. We don't know what the kid might or might not have done to earn it. Why don't we wait until more information is present before we start lynching the dad.

 

[bigbottom]

To be clear, I do not favor lynching.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Why is it not abuse? Because the kid didn't get seriously hurt?

In any case, the guy is obviously a jackass.

You think he should be charged with abuse? I think that would be extreme in this case.

At a minimum, I think he should be kicked off the roof of his house.

I'd be down with that.

Let's put a team together.

 

[Guest]

Not sure which was worse. The kick down the ramp or the walking away like "I didn't do that".

What an ###.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think skating took off and rose as parents got too involved in youth sports and this was a physical activity outside of a constant projection for a redemption of a past failures and unrealistic expectations. Sad to see that that mindset seems to be encroaching on this activity.

 

[JaxBill]

I think skating took off and rose as parents got too involved in youth sports and this was a physical activity outside of a constant projection for a redemption of a past failures and unrealistic expectations. Sad to see that that mindset seems to be encroaching on this activity.

Yeah, I was going to post it in the "only in Florida" thread but I think this mindset is way too prevalent

 

[shadyridr]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

how is it no abuse? He kicked his so and walked away

 

[IvanKaramazov]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

how is it no abuse? He kicked his so and walked away

Yeah, it looked pretty obviously like abuse to me.

 

[Smack Tripper]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

how is it no abuse? He kicked his so and walked away

Yeah, it looked pretty obviously like abuse to me.

Purely devils advocate here. Was anyone else taught to swim by being thrown in the deep end? I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but in fairness, I'm wondering if the kid had a fear of falling. Its part of the freight of doing this stuff.

I COULD see the idiot father having this perspective.

Now that said, two major differences:

1. Swimming is potentially a lifesaving ability

2. That ramp was probably far too challenging for a six year old (I'd guess, I have no background in skating).

 

[Mr. Pickles]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

how is it no abuse? He kicked his so and walked away

Yeah, it looked pretty obviously like abuse to me.

Purely devils advocate here. Was anyone else taught to swim by being thrown in the deep end? I know this isn't exactly the same thing

Great, so let's stop talking about it like it is.

And clearly he was so resolute in his actions that he skulked away like a bitch.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I think skating took off and rose as parents got too involved in youth sports and this was a physical activity outside of a constant projection for a redemption of a past failures and unrealistic expectations. Sad to see that that mindset seems to be encroaching on this activity.

Because ONE video surfaces of ONE guy kicking a kid down a ramp?

 

[mr roboto]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I think skating took off and rose as parents got too involved in youth sports and this was a physical activity outside of a constant projection for a redemption of a past failures and unrealistic expectations. Sad to see that that mindset seems to be encroaching on this activity.

Because ONE video surfaces of ONE guy kicking a kid down a ramp?

Yes, exactly. Show me evidence otherwise. There are two fathers with six year olds at the skate park in this video.

 

[Smack Tripper]

That was terrible. What a ####.

It's also not child abuse.

how is it no abuse? He kicked his so and walked away

Yeah, it looked pretty obviously like abuse to me.

Purely devils advocate here. Was anyone else taught to swim by being thrown in the deep end? I know this isn't exactly the same thing

Great, so let's stop talking about it like it is.

And clearly he was so resolute in his actions that he skulked away like a bitch.

So throwing a kid in the deep end is not abuse?

 

[Dr Oadi]

Lot of jumping to conclusions here.

The video only shows the kick not what led up to it. We don't know what the kid might or might not have done to earn it. Why don't we wait until more information is present before we start lynching the dad.

He may have said the N word. I think we can all agree he deserved it if that were the case.

 

[Cjw_55106]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

I agree that he may not be an abuser on a regular basis. This one time however, he was abusing the kid.

 

[shadyridr]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

i dont know if hes a child abuser but that was definite child abuse.

 

[SIDA!]

This story reminded me of this video from a couple of years ago where a little boy is mountain biking with his dad. It is absolutely awesome to watch/hear the little boy express his excite/joy and how proud he is of himself.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ce5_1349360956&comments=1

You have to at least watch the first 60 seconds of it.

 

[comfortably numb]

Not sure which was worse. The kick down the ramp or the walking away like "I didn't do that".

What an ###.

Looked like he walked away to go downstairs to where his kid was?

 

[Dr Oadi]

I guess you wussirs are gonna say it is child abuse to throw your kid in the lake ( or the deep end of the pool for you richie riches ) to learn em how to swim now!

 

[mr roboto]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

i dont know if hes a child abuser but that was definite child abuse.

Well if it's abuse, then yes, he's an abuser.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Kid was obviously taking way too long to go down the ramp - just need a quick kickstart to get over the nerves.

 

[shadyridr]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

i dont know if hes a child abuser but that was definite child abuse.

Well if it's abuse, then yes, he's an abuser.

what side of this are you on

 

[mr roboto]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

i dont know if hes a child abuser but that was definite child abuse.

Well if it's abuse, then yes, he's an abuser.

what side of this are you on

The side that says I'm not comfortable labeling what was on the clip as eay child abuse. The side topic that was brought up was that posters want to claim this act is abuse but that he's not a child abuser. I claimed that's ridiculous. If you label it abuse, he's an abuser. Which is my point originally to not call it child abuse as a first reaction because that's kind of a serious claim.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

This story reminded me of this video from a couple of years ago where a little boy is mountain biking with his dad. It is absolutely awesome to watch/hear the little boy express his excite/joy and how proud he is of himself.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ce5_1349360956&comments=1

You have to at least watch the first 60 seconds of it.

Cute video. That kid was pretty amped up after going down that ramp.

Gotta throw a flag on a few things, though. That trail seems pretty extreme for a 5 year old. The kid wiped out at least once that I saw. Dear old dad also rode way out ahead of his kid. Too far, really. And what's with those socks? C'mon, dad.

 

[shadyridr]

It might be abuse, I guess I don't know. From the interview with the owner of the skate park this kid and his dad come all the time. The kid is a 'phenom' for his age apparently. None of this excuses the father's actions. I just am a bit hesitant to say he's a child abuser based solely in a 10 second clip.

i dont know if hes a child abuser but that was definite child abuse.

Well if it's abuse, then yes, he's an abuser.

what side of this are you on

The side that says I'm not comfortable labeling what was on the clip as eay child abuse. The side topic that was brought up was that posters want to claim this act is abuse but that he's not a child abuser. I claimed that's ridiculous. If you label it abuse, he's an abuser. Which is my point originally to not call it child abuse as a first reaction because that's kind of a serious claim.

it is a single act of child abuse. Does not mean he is a serial child abuser.

 

[Chaka]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

 

[Galileo]

Not sure which was worse. The kick down the ramp or the walking away like "I didn't do that".

What an ###.

Looked like he walked away to go downstairs to where his kid was?

This is the what I thought watching it.Also, I lol'd at the interview when the park manager said the dad "understood the gravity of the situation"

 

[Cjw_55106]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

 

[Chaka]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

so, is it ok by you because the kid didn't get seriously hurt? If he got hurt, does your opinion change?

 

[Chaka]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

so, is it ok by you because the kid didn't get seriously hurt? If he got hurt, does your opinion change?

The kid wearing helmet, elbow and knee pads off the 6 foot vert who fell maybe 4 feet and landed on his butt? What injury are you concerned may have happened to him? Splinters?

 

[Cjw_55106]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

so, is it ok by you because the kid didn't get seriously hurt? If he got hurt, does your opinion change?

The kid wearing helmet, elbow and knee pads off the 6 foot vert who fell maybe 4 feet and landed on his butt? What injury are you concerned may have happened to him? Splinters?

a helmet doesn't prevent a face plant or concussion. The dad has no idea how the kid will land.

 

[spOOfy]

To be clear, I do not favor lynching.

vote jackass dad

proxy bigbottom

 

[Chaka]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

so, is it ok by you because the kid didn't get seriously hurt? If he got hurt, does your opinion change?

The kid wearing helmet, elbow and knee pads off the 6 foot vert who fell maybe 4 feet and landed on his butt? What injury are you concerned may have happened to him? Splinters?

a helmet doesn't prevent a face plant or concussion. The dad has no idea how the kid will land.

Paranoid much?

 

[Clifford]

If no one in this thread has ever stood at the top of a very ramp, it's incredibly scary. Pushing anyone in any way is wrong. For a father to do that to his son is horrible. Why anyone would defend the fathers action is totally ####ed.

And people saying that because the kid wasn't hurt it's not child abuse? How do you justify that?

 

[Clifford]

If any of you are fathers read the comment from the 13 year old in the first article. A few people in here could use a lesson.

 

[bigbottom]

If no one in this thread has ever stood at the top of a very ramp, it's incredibly scary. Pushing anyone in any way is wrong. For a father to do that to his son is horrible. Why anyone would defend the fathers action is totally ####ed.

And people saying that because the kid wasn't hurt it's not child abuse? How do you justify that?

And from the video, while the child may not have suffered an injury, it sounds to me like he was nevertheless hurt.

 

[Clifford]

Sometimes this place is a reminder of why this world is so incredibly ####ed up.

Sorry, sometime a few posters in this thread are a reminder of why this world is so incredibly ####ed up.

 

[timschochet]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

Yes

Yes

No

 

[rockaction]

Pushing the child in while both feet weren't on the board is especially unforgivable.

I can't believe the guy would do that.

 

[timschochet]

Pushing the child in while both feet weren't on the board is especially unforgivable.

I can't believe the guy would do that.

Why can't you believe it?

One of the most interesting aspects of the social media that we have today is how suddenly things can go viral. Whether it's this guy or Donald Sterling, you can't get away with crap anymore. If somebody records you, you're screwed.

 

[Cjw_55106]

Abuse? Seriously? Lighten up people.

If we call it simple assault, is that better for you?

Lunacy.

so, is it ok by you because the kid didn't get seriously hurt? If he got hurt, does your opinion change?

The kid wearing helmet, elbow and knee pads off the 6 foot vert who fell maybe 4 feet and landed on his butt? What injury are you concerned may have happened to him? Splinters?

a helmet doesn't prevent a face plant or concussion. The dad has no idea how the kid will land.

Paranoid much?

not at all. I simply don't do things that may hurt my kids. I guess I'm just soft.