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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
CNBC reported they already have him on the front screen of the web site and took down the offer for some half price ticket packages that was up this morning. 
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
He's dead to me now.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
packers or vikings?odds are both will still be above the lions in the standings
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I LOVE HIM
CrossEyed
Footballguy
So do all the defenses playing Minnesota if your league gives points for INTs.
As a lifelong Packer fan, I'm just sad today.
Not sure why...could be a number of things. I guess I just wanted to believe that Favre and the Packers had something special. I'm not mad at him, mad at the Packers or mad at the Vikings. I guess I just would have respected honesty rather than the cat and mouse game over the past few months. It's fine if he didn't want to comment on returning - that's his choice - but the blatant lying is frustrating as a fan. I'd be shocked if he just wasn't getting out of training camp by waiting until today. And that's fine too, just don't state you are finished...no one is ever going to believe him again when it comes to this subject.
Being on the outside of the whole process, I guess I'll never know what happened between Thompson, the Packers and Favre. I just wish all of this didn't go down this way...that's probably why I'm somewhat sad.
10/5 and 11/1 are going to be strange...
Not sure why...could be a number of things. I guess I just wanted to believe that Favre and the Packers had something special. I'm not mad at him, mad at the Packers or mad at the Vikings. I guess I just would have respected honesty rather than the cat and mouse game over the past few months. It's fine if he didn't want to comment on returning - that's his choice - but the blatant lying is frustrating as a fan. I'd be shocked if he just wasn't getting out of training camp by waiting until today. And that's fine too, just don't state you are finished...no one is ever going to believe him again when it comes to this subject.
Being on the outside of the whole process, I guess I'll never know what happened between Thompson, the Packers and Favre. I just wish all of this didn't go down this way...that's probably why I'm somewhat sad.
10/5 and 11/1 are going to be strange...
T Bell
Footballguy
Oh God, and now we have Twitter.what did he have for breakfast this morning? Better start a new thread ....
FUBAR
Footballguy
Vikings for sure, Packers look like they made the right move right now. You're probably right about the standings. In fact, I'll have the Packers on the top of my predictions in the NFC. I like the team a lot if the D can hold its end of the bargain.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
He's retired -- surely you're mistaken.
Count me as a Bronco fan that's glad another team is being laughed at. And yes I know both those teams will be better than Denver.
CalBear
Footballguy
Please...you seriously believe that Sage Rosenfels is better than Favre? Rosenfels threw 10 INTs with only 6 TDs in 6 games last year, with better receivers than Favre had. Or Tarvaris Jackson, for heaven's sake, who just had a beautiful 7/15 for 39 yards (2.9 yards/attempt) pre-season stat line?Even at this stage in his career, Favre represents a QB upgrade for Minnesota. He will make mistakes that will cost them a game or two, but it's clear that Minnesota's passing offense will be better with him in than it would have been otherwise.
jurb26
Footballguy
Favre is a mistake prone QB who is well past his prime and is joining the team 3 weeks before the season. There may in fact come a time when Favre is the best option. I just don't happen to be of the opinion that time is now and unlike everyone else who still thinks this guy is an above average QB I don't think he is anymore. We'll see if he proves me wrong.
CalBear
Footballguy
He doesn't have to be an above-average QB to be better than Rosenfels and Jackson.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Sage was playing behind the Houston line against good teams. Favre was playing behind the NY line, which is better than the Vikings IMO, and NY had one of the easiest schedules in the league. Their situations are not comparable.
jurb26
Footballguy
CalBear
Footballguy
Matt Schaub, playing behind the same line, had 15 TDs to 10 INTs in 11 games.Here's a list of QBs Sage has failed to beat out for starting jobs:Jay FiedlerBrian GrieseAJ FeeleyGus FrerotteDavid CarrMatt SchaubI'm sorry, if you can't beat out AJ Feeley, Gus Frerotte, and David Carr for a starting job, you're not an NFL starting QB.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
You assume that the QB position is not pre-determined. Coaches are not going to let a QB you gave up draft picks for and are paying millions get beat out by some undrafted QB. Why couldn't Romo beat out Drew Henson all those years. Kurt Warner was cut multiple times.NY cut Chad Pennington to replace him with Favre. Was that the correct decision? Is Favre better than Chad? Chad's stats were better this season and schedules were similar and his receivers were sub-par. You are also assuming that Brad Childress knowns what is doing and frankly I believe he has no clue. He likes veterans like Favre because it makes his job easy - he does not have to coach them.
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Billy1x
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Thats what they said in Phili when Reggie White went to the Packers! Actually that's what Atlanta said when Bret Favre went to the Packers!Other traitors - Steve Young, Joe Montana, Joe Namath, Edge, LT1, Michael Turner, Darren Sharper, Ryan Longwell, Warrick Dunn, Matt Hasselback, and KURT WARNER (and hundreds of other players) for heaven'sake. It a game guys. Enjoy the entertainment!!!!!Ditkaless Wonders said:
Casting Couch
Footballguy
fixed it for ya.
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Billy1x
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IMO - All receivers that play for Favre learn to run accurate routes period. When the next QB takes over they will benifit from his training as Roger did in Green Bay and Sanchez in the Jets. Win or lose they got themselves a heck of a trainer.
Catch the ball correctly or it will break your hand
Run a wrong route and the ball will be intercepted and you better be able to explain it to the rest of the team
The transformation should be amazing. Rice and TE should also benefit a lot possibly more than Berrian.
Catch the ball correctly or it will break your hand
Run a wrong route and the ball will be intercepted and you better be able to explain it to the rest of the team
The transformation should be amazing. Rice and TE should also benefit a lot possibly more than Berrian.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
fixed your fixing.fixed it for ya.
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CalBear
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Romo sat a total of 2 years; one behind Vinny Testaverde, and one behind Drew Bledsoe. Between the two of them they have over 90,000 passing yards and 426 TDs. Then Romo put Bledsoe to the bench mid-season and hasn't looked back.Warner was cut because he stopped being effective in a starting role, at least partially due to injuries. People thought he was done. In 2002 he threw 3 TDs and 11 INTs. That's not at all the same situation as having a team bring in AJ Feely, and then Gus Frerotte to start instead of giving you the job (which is what happened to Rosenfels in Miami).
Rosenfels is no callow rookie; he's been in the league 7 years, on 3 different teams, and he's 30 years old. Teams have had plenty of time to evaluate his skills, and no one has considered him worthy of the starting job.
I think it was probably a mistake for the Jets to cut Pennington for Favre; unlike Rosenfels, Pennington had a history of success. His 2002 season was very impressive, statistically, and he was pretty good the rest of the time, though never quite at the same level. But the Vikings aren't choosing between Favre and Pennington; they're choosing between Jackson, Rosenfels, and Favre. Without Favre, they're probably in the bottom 5 in the league in terms of starting QBs--maybe in the bottom 2.
Look at it this way; last year they started a 37-year-old Gus Frerotte. A 39-year-old Brett Favre has to be an improvement over that, and Frerotte went 8-3 as a starter despite throwing 15 INTs in 12 games.
fatness
Footballguy
"Learn to run like hell chasing a wild pass at a critical point in the 3rd or 4th quarter of a game your team is trailing."Don't forget that one.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Wow...he is magical...he makes WRs learn to run accurate routes?Are you freaking kidding me?
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Donnybrook
Footballguy
- wikipediaWarner was cut twice before the 1999 Super Bowl season. Even in 1999, he barely made the team and the head coach had to intervene. You would think that a guy that was MVP of the NFL Europe would at least be worthy of a roster spot. How many times do highly drafted guys like Carr, Herrington and Leftwitch get second and third chances in this league? Way too many IMO.
I really think the problem with Rosenfels is he not a good practice player and plays better in games.
I swear 90% of the people said that Favre was a huge upgrade over Pennington. You post Sage's 2008 record and you act like that defines him; like he never had any success prior to his 2008 season. Well, Pennington had 1-7 record in 2007 with 10 TDs and 9 picks. I am glad you were willing to look past Pennington's terrible 2007 season. Is it posible you can do the same for Rosenfels?
Last season proves that Vikings have a good enough defense and running game to get into the playoffs with out much of a quaterback. I am not worry about getting into the playoffs. I am more worried about Favre, the gunslinger, knocking the Vikings out of the playoffs. There is a least a couple games a year that Favre manages to lose almost single handedly. Most of those games have come late in the season.
dickey moe
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Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
If I was a Packer fan, I'd be pissed. Him going to Minnesota is selfish. No, it's definately not about the money, he's only getting 12 million a year LOL. Then he'll stare into the camera and say he's in it for the right reasons, whatever.
He mentions it doesn't matter to him what uniform that he's in, only the players eyes he's looking at in the huddle. As a Packer fan, I just wouldn't understand that, I'm sorry. Because there are many Packers fans for many years that didn't think Brett felt that way. I certainly would have felt betrayed if Staubach would have left to Washington or Aikman to Philly or the Giants.
Ya, Ya, the NFL is a business. However, many of us still on Sunday's like to believe when we put on our favorite players jersey on Sunday mornings that the player wants to be there as much as you want him to be.
BTW, Farve jersey's for Minnesota are now being sold for 109.00. If I were a Minny fan, I'd buy one and wear it just for the slap in the face it is to Green Bay fans to allow them to have such a jersey from Green Bay's greatest QB ever.
He mentions it doesn't matter to him what uniform that he's in, only the players eyes he's looking at in the huddle. As a Packer fan, I just wouldn't understand that, I'm sorry. Because there are many Packers fans for many years that didn't think Brett felt that way. I certainly would have felt betrayed if Staubach would have left to Washington or Aikman to Philly or the Giants.
Ya, Ya, the NFL is a business. However, many of us still on Sunday's like to believe when we put on our favorite players jersey on Sunday mornings that the player wants to be there as much as you want him to be.
BTW, Farve jersey's for Minnesota are now being sold for 109.00. If I were a Minny fan, I'd buy one and wear it just for the slap in the face it is to Green Bay fans to allow them to have such a jersey from Green Bay's greatest QB ever.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
He's getting 12 million, that's the plan.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
2nd best QB behind Starr
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I am now a Vikings fan for two games of the year. I would not mind seeing Favre throw ten TD's against the Packers. There is one team Favre has not beaten yet. After this season, Favre will have beaten every NFL team. That is something.
This never happens if Thompson lets Favre play in Green Bay. Thompson is going to get a lot of egg on his face if the Vikings go far into the playoffs and the Packers have a substandard season... again.
This never happens if Thompson lets Favre play in Green Bay. Thompson is going to get a lot of egg on his face if the Vikings go far into the playoffs and the Packers have a substandard season... again.
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skol asylum
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championship 
parasaurolophus
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CalBear
Footballguy
Rosenfels in his career is 6-6 as a starter, with 62.5% completions, 30 TDs and 29 INTs in his career. Pennington is 43-34, with 66.0% completions, 101 TDs and 62 INTs. There's really no comparison; Pennington is clearly a better QB statistically, and also if you've ever watched the two of them play. And when Pennington got cut, another team picked him up off the waiver wire and made him a starter; when Rosenfels got cut, another team picked him up and made him a backup, and then brought in a veteran to bump him down to #3 on the depth chart.
Aaronstory
Footballguy
I love all the "If he wants to play he should be able to play" bs as though this was happening without any history or context. Does he have every right to play? Of course. Do Packers fans have every right to be upset? Of course.
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