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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
There was potential for a Rice/Deion/Emmitt/Favre class a little while ago.
boubucarow
Footballguy
Bettis is not in the same class as Sanders, Rice, Emmitt, Favre. Not saying he doesn't deserve in. But he might have trouble as he is obviously second tier in his time period.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I guess we'll have to wait for the Reggie Bush / Brett Favre induction day now. 
Kyzersosik
Footballguy
Brett will let you know, well maybe, I`m not sure, we took a vote, 2 more weeks, if he`d like to be on the H O Fame ballot. ENOUGH already!!!!
SSOG
Moderator
Bettis and Vermeil aren't first-ballot HoFers. I don't think Vermeil gets in at all (if he does, it won't be for a while until there are a few lean years). I also don't think Bettis gets in first ballot, and I think Bettis will be in serious trouble if he doesn't get in right away and Martin retires after this season, since I think Martin *has* to get in over Bettis.Edit: Also remember, there's the senior committee recommendation that makes it, too, which would push this class up to 6. Only twice in the past 10 years has the HoF let in 6 people in a season.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
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Getinthemix
Footballguy
I still cannot for the life of me figure out how Bettis is percieved as a lock for the HOF.
hutchins929
Footballguy
Well one thing is for sure... IN or OUT **** Vermeil will be crying.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
Because he's probably the best "big" back of all time, and is #5 in career rushing yards. Notice I didn't say he was the best "power" back of all-time, (Earl Campbell IMO has that honor) but Bettis was a one-of-a-kind runner, because he was so just so big (borderline just straight-up fat) and had some of the quickest feet for a guy that size you'd ever see. There were very, very few RB's that could grind out the clock, pick up short-yardage, and just wear out the opponent in games as well as Jerome Bettis.You also have to consider some of the help (or lack thereof) he had in the passing game throughout his career.
These were his QB's...
1993: An injured Jim Everett (8 TD's, 12 INT's) and T.J. Rubley
1994 and 1995: Chris Miller
1996: Mike Tomczak
1997-1999: Kordell Stewart
2000: Kent Graham
2001: Kordell Stewart
2002-2003: Tommy Maddox
2004-2005: Ben Roethlisberger
Not until 2004 did he get a good QB to aid his rushing efforts. Teams stacked 8 in the box almost CONSTANTLY, every game.
But when his QB's had good seasons passing the ball which was rare, Bettis played at an extremely high level. In 1997, Bettis gained over 1,600 yards. In 2001, Bettis had over 1,000 yards to the tune of 4.8 YPC before he was injured. And in 2004, the last year as a starter, he gained 100 yards in every start he had until the AFCCG. Other than those 3 seasons, his QB's were TERRIBLE as long as Bettis was the starter.
He's a HOF player, undoubtedly.
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Traders2001
Footballguy
What !!!!!If someone in there does nt deserve it it s Sanders, he had a good carreer but there was a lot of guys as good as him .
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Spartans346
Footballguy
Anyone from Ohio Knows what that means.Well one thing is for sure... IN or OUT **** Vermeil will be crying.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Vermeil will be eligible the next time they vote. Coaches don't have to wait 5 years.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
fatness
Footballguy
The initial post is talking about Deion Sanders, not Barry Sanders.There were a lot of guys as good as Sanders? Only if scientists have, without my knowledge, successfully cloned Walter Peyton and Jim Brown twenty or thirty times each.
I'm trying to decide if you're serious or just.
obxlegends
Footballguy
Since Rice didn't actually play a game in 2005 or receive a game check I don't think he's considered active in 2005 thus going in with 2004's class.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
SSOG
Moderator
Oh yeah, right. Well, in that case, change "Walter Peyton" and "Jim Brown" to "Night Train" and "Mel Blount".The initial post is talking about Deion Sanders, not Barry Sanders.There were a lot of guys as good as Sanders? Only if scientists have, without my knowledge, successfully cloned Walter Peyton and Jim Brown twenty or thirty times each.
I'm trying to decide if you're serious or just
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
I believe this is correct, but then he would have to go in as a Bronco. I think he wants to sign for a day with San Fran and go into the hall as a 49er.Since Rice didn't actually play a game in 2005 or receive a game check I don't think he's considered active in 2005 thus going in with 2004's class.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
SSOG
Moderator
He already signed and retired with San Fran.Also, regardless of where you finish up your career, you always go in as whatever you did the bulk of your work in.I believe this is correct, but then he would have to go in as a Bronco. I think he wants to sign for a day with San Fran and go into the hall as a 49er.Since Rice didn't actually play a game in 2005 or receive a game check I don't think he's considered active in 2005 thus going in with 2004's class.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
He didn't sign and retire with San Fran. He wanted to but it was too late. That's why I thought he was planning on doing it this year, so he could retire a 49er. I thought you had to go into the hall with the team you retired with, but I could be wrong. And in fact, probably am.He already signed and retired with San Fran.Also, regardless of where you finish up your career, you always go in as whatever you did the bulk of your work in.I believe this is correct, but then he would have to go in as a Bronco. I think he wants to sign for a day with San Fran and go into the hall as a 49er.Since Rice didn't actually play a game in 2005 or receive a game check I don't think he's considered active in 2005 thus going in with 2004's class.Brett just had to go and ruin the 2011 Hall of Fame induction class
jerome bettis
jerry rice
deion sanders
**** vermeil
and favre
that would have been a nice weekend in my home town
psycho lions fan
Footballguy
Is Reggie petitioning to go into the hall of fame after 4 years of playing instead of 4 years after you stop playing? Wearing any number you prefer?I guess we'll have to wait for the Reggie Bush / Brett Favre induction day now.
