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With some quarterbacks this is called "gritty", or "wily", or "doing what it takes" or "finding a way to win" or "willing his team to victory" or "refusing to lose" . You know --- various complimentary terms.
I'm sure his ability to pick up the 1st down on 3rd and long by running instead of throwing the ball away has nothing to do with CJ's recent performance. I'm sure his 1 INT in 4 games vs. Collins 8 in 6 has nothing to do with the Titans recent success.VY has passed the ball 18, 19, 25, and 22 times in these 4 games. Collins did pass roughly twice that amount but do we measure success by # of attempts?Collins netted 181 yards per game - granted, that includes the New England debacle. Without that game, Collins netted 216 yards per game. VY has netted 230 yards per game.Collins had failed to score a TD in his last two games, but he has managed to throw an INT in every game. VY has scored 1 TD in every game, one INT in 4 games. Want to talk passer rating? Collins had one game higher than VY's lowest rating so far. Percentage? Collins 54.8, VY 62.9; wait! that's just because VY throws short passes!Look at AY/A: Collins - 4.12. VY's - 6.66. Yeah, that's just because VY has been able to complete more short passes, so his AY/A is higher.uh oh, look at his Y/C: Collins - 9.9, VY 11.1That said, so far VY has faced below average defenses, all are in the 18-24 range. So we'll have to see how he keeps it up. I like what I see so far.your guess is as good as mine... on that.. 's like the clowns that voted VY as RoY ahead of MJD when Young had a 66 passer rating with 12 TDs and 13 intercepts.. ..it is just one of the all time jokes that people see anything in this guy!!!I mean really looking back at it.. if the HC and OC had babysat the play calling with Kerry Collins like thay have with VY the Titans wouldn't have started 0- 6 to begin with.. for some reason people actually believe this guy can QB in the NFL.. people keep talking about all he does is win games.. well sure when ya only toss 15 passes a game and hand the ball off as Chris Johnson rushes for 160 and a TD or two in every game which then keeps your suspect Defense off the field for two thirds or 3 quarters of the game.. sure you're gonna win.. as Tom Jackson says.. I'd bet "JARmacus Russel might be able to even win with that formula..
In my eyes the jury is still out on VY, but please continue to regale us with your emotion.your guess is as good as mine... on that.. 's like the clowns that voted VY as RoY ahead of MJD when Young had a 66 passer rating with 12 TDs and 13 intercepts.. ..it is just one of the all time jokes that people see anything in this guy!!!I mean really looking back at it.. if the HC and OC had babysat the play calling with Kerry Collins like thay have with VY the Titans wouldn't have started 0- 6 to begin with.. for some reason people actually believe this guy can QB in the NFL.. people keep talking about all he does is win games.. well sure when ya only toss 15 passes a game and hand the ball off as Chris Johnson rushes for 160 and a TD or two in every game which then keeps your suspect Defense off the field for two thirds or 3 quarters of the game.. sure you're gonna win.. as Tom Jackson says.. I'd bet "JARmacus Russel might be able to even win with that formula..
Someone struggles with bitterness and complete non objectivity.your guess is as good as mine... on that.. 's like the clowns that voted VY as RoY ahead of MJD when Young had a 66 passer rating with 12 TDs and 13 intercepts.. ..it is just one of the all time jokes that people see anything in this guy!!!
In a league that does not have minus points for turnovers Young could be a good start.I would love to see them just cut him loose like at Texas..one look and run.
Ha, after a 30-13 shellacking, an obvious jaded Jag. I don't know about the #6 ranking this week, seems like a stretch, but I don't pay too much attention. What is clear to me, with VY at the helm, Chris Johnson has gone from good to dominating. With KFC 120 yds & 0.5 tds/game, with VY 195 yds & 1.5 tds/game. The VY running threat is real and clearly benefits CJ.Its also clear the Titans are a much better offensive team with VY. With him they average 2.75 offensive TDs and 2.25 FGs per game versus 1.5 TDs and 1.16 FGs with KFC. VY showed last week, he can take a 3rd and 3 situation and use his legs or arm to turn that into a first down.I'm more encouraged with VY's second chance than his first go around. He is doing a good job with ball security and making accurate throws. As long as he attempts a few downfield passes (which have been accurate) plus tucks/runs 5 or 6 times a game, the defense really can't get too comfortable. I applaud Heimerdinger for simplifying and complimenting the Chris Johnson threat with the VY threat, so far it is working great.In my eyes the jury is still out on VY, but please continue to regale us with your emotion.your guess is as good as mine... on that.. 's like the clowns that voted VY as RoY ahead of MJD when Young had a 66 passer rating with 12 TDs and 13 intercepts.. ..it is just one of the all time jokes that people see anything in this guy!!!
Just curious - are you saying no team that has won the Super Bowl has gotten that leadership from a non-QB?
Srsly he just lit your #### up as a starter when Collins got beat by 4 scores in the first half. Get off him.your guess is as good as mine... on that.. 's like the clowns that voted VY as RoY ahead of MJD when Young had a 66 passer rating with 12 TDs and 13 intercepts.. ..it is just one of the all time jokes that people see anything in this guy!!!
Whats wrong with this? Maybe more teams should find this formula. You seem to denounce it, I applaud it. VY clearly makes CJ a bigger weapon than without him. CJ makes VY a bigger weapon than without him. Together they seem to be producing big results, you can't deny that.
23-11what it really boils down to is I'm simply not ready to believe in the guy or the hype that seems to continue being spewed about him as being a solid NFL (and Fantasy) QB at this point..if he proves me wrong fine.. until he does.. oh well!
okay, just prepare to be proven wrong.no.. not saying that at all Fubar.. I've played, coached, and watched the game for far too long to be that narrowminded.. LOL.. (in spite of what some here appear to think) LOL..what it really boils down to is I'm simply not ready to believe in the guy or the hype that seems to continue being spewed about him as being a solid NFL (and Fantasy) QB at this point..if he proves me wrong fine.. until he does.. oh well!
really?
I love comedy.
This thread was about his ranking for this ONE week.
okay, just prepare to be proven wrong.no.. not saying that at all Fubar.. I've played, coached, and watched the game for far too long to be that narrowminded.. LOL.. (in spite of what some here appear to think) LOL..what it really boils down to is I'm simply not ready to believe in the guy or the hype that seems to continue being spewed about him as being a solid NFL (and Fantasy) QB at this point..if he proves me wrong fine.. until he does.. oh well!
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