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FBG Shark Live Mock Draft Round 4 (1 Viewer)

Jiggyonthehut

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ROUND 4

4.01 (100) Oakland Antonio Johnson DT, Mississippi State

4.02 (101) Detroit Matt Spaeth TE, Minnesota

4.03 (102) Tampa Bay Kareem Brown DT, Miami

4.04 (103) Cleveland Brandon Mebane DT/DE, California

4.05 (104) San Francisco (from Washington) Michael Johnson S, Arizona

4.06 (105) Arizona Laurent Robinson WR, Illinois State

4.07 (106) Minnesota Travarous Bain CB, Hampton

4.08 (107) Houston Mike Walker WR, South Florida

4.09 (108) Miami Scott Chandler TE, Iowa

4.10 (109) Atlanta Brandon Jackson RB, Nebraska

4.11 (110) San Francisco Jacoby Jones WR, Lane College

4.12 (111) Buffalo Chris Henry RB, Arizona

4.13 (112) Green Bay Tim Shaw LB, Penn State

4.14 (113) Jacksonville AJ Davis CB, North Carolina State

4.15 (114) Cincinnati Allen Barbre OT, Missouri Southern State

4.16 (115) Tennessee Doug Datish C/G, Ohio State

4.17 (116) N.Y. Giants Mario Henderson OT, Florida State

4.18 (117) St. Louis Dustin Frye C, Clemson

4.19 (118) Carolina David Ball WR, New Hampshire

4.20 (119) Pittsburgh Deshawn Wynn RB, Florida

4.21 (120) Seattle Baraka Atkins DT/DE, Miami

4.22 (121) Atlanta (from Denver) Michael Coe CB, Alabama State

4.23 (122) Dallas Mason Crosby PK, Colorado

4.24 (123) New Orleans (from Kansas City) Troy Smith QB, Ohio State

4.25 (124) San Francisco (from New York Jets) Victor DeGrate DE/OLB, Oklahoma State

4.26 (125) New Orleans (from Philadelphia) H.B. Blades ILB, Pittsburgh

4.27 (126) New Orleans Jay Alford DT, Penn State

4.28 (127) New England Zach DeOssie ILB, Brown

4.29 (128) Tennessee (from Baltimore) Ramonce Taylor RB, Texas College

4.30 (129) San Diego Dallas Baker WR, Florida

4.31 (130) Chicago Darius Walker RB, Notre Dame

4.32 (131) Indianapolis David Clowney WR, Virginia Tech

4.33 (132) Pittsburgh (Compensatory Selection) Earl Everett OLB, Florida

4.34 (133) Atlanta (Compensatory Selection) Kevin Kolb, QB Houston

4.35 (134) Baltimore (Compensatory Selection) Courtney Taylor WR, Auburn

4.36 (135) San Francisco (Compensatory Selection) Quentin Echols NT, Kansas State

4.37 (136) Indianapolis (Compensatory Selection) Courtney Brown CB, Cal Poly

4.38 (137) Baltimore (Compensatory Selection) Desmond Bishop ILB, UCLA

Here is the order. I will update but just want to get this thing started. Again, DO NOT SKIP AND PICK OUT OF TURN. Its not cool. Just PM me.

 
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Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota

Not a huge need for the Lions, but I think he's the best player on the board. He is a Rod type of player and is a very good blocker which is where the Lions need help. I think he could go into the rotation at TE day one...

 
4.3 Tampa Bay Buc Kareem Brown DT Mia U

Tampa could use a rotation guy in the middle and Brown can provide that. Looks as though Tampa is not going very far out of Florida to find talent to draft. :shrug:

 
Since this seems to be the thread du jour and Philly has no 4th round picks (yet), I'm just :thumbup: at this point.

Nice draft - I really liked how Philly got a LB (Beason), Leonard and a safety (Rouse) on Day 1. That would be perfect IMHO.

Nice job all. ;)

 
Pick 4.4 Cleveland Browns Brandon Mebane, DT / DE, Cal

Browns go with BPA here. Mebane played DT in college, but the Browns will have him study under O. Roye. The Browns have now picked up their NT, DE and OLB of the future. The defense is starting to shape up very nicely. Mebane is quick off the snap and has the ability to get some pressure on the QB. Plenty of other directions the team could have gone here, but they went with BPA.

 
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4.5 San Francisco selects Michael Johnson S, Arizona

He is a little slow afoot and has lapses, but Nolan will be able to get the best out of him and get him into the rotation at safety and on special teams.

 
4.06 (105) Arizona (Andy Dufrense) - Laurent Robinson, WR, Illinois State

Ran one of the fastest 40 times at the combine. The Cardinals may not need another WR (the ones on their roster are pretty good) but there's a need for some speed. Plus, the current #3 WR, Bryant Johnson, is only under contract for one more year.

Imagine a guy with 4.36 speed running off coverage, making it easier for Boldin and Fitz. :goodposting:

He's tall, big, strong, and a good jumper too. Which would be another plus since the Cardinals are still terrible in the red zone.

I'm drafting WRs so that Chaos Commish will be proud of me. :ptts: :popcorn:

 
4.07 (106) Minnesota (Andy Dufrense) - Travarous Bain CB, Hampton

The depth on Minnesota's defensive roster is almost non-existent. In the backfield, they let Smoot go and have marginal talent behind starters Winfield (my personal favorite Viking) and Griffin.

Bain definitely has the talent to be an eventual starter. As for now, he'll bring quality depth.

 
4.08 (107) Houston Texans Mike Walker UCF

With the Texans missing a 2nd round pick it reallys set limits on how they can draft and a once deep position gets dry quick and instead of taking that last defensive need they aare forced to pull from another area in the draft and go WR. Mike Walker could be the SOD at the WR position. A year after coming off of an ACL and the guy runs a 4.35 (you got to be kidding) this tells me that this guy is either faster or quick than he is right now and maybe even both. good height and size and could challenge for a starting spot immediately.

I'm a firm believer that players that are drafted in rounds 2-4 should be starters are able to challenge to start.

Andy I just knew you were gonna take Walker for AZ or MINN. you also stole one of my sleepers in Bain. :sleep:

 
4.08 (107) Houston Texans Mike Walker UCF

With the Texans missing a 2nd round pick it reallys set limits on how they can draft and a once deep position gets dry quick and instead of taking that last defensive need they aare forced to pull from another area in the draft and go WR. Mike Walker could be the SOD at the WR position. A year after coming off of an ACL and the guy runs a 4.35 (you got to be kidding) this tells me that this guy is either faster or quick than he is right now and maybe even both. good height and size and could challenge for a starting spot immediately.

I'm a firm believer that players that are drafted in rounds 2-4 should be starters are able to challenge to start.

Andy I just knew you were gonna take Walker for AZ or MINN. you also stole one of my sleepers in Bain. :sleep:
:banned: I had Walker going to Arizona all day yesterday and even had his name typed in this morning. But then I started reading how he's not as fast in pads as he was on the track and I backed off. My next plan was for him to go to the Packers, which would have been a perfect fit.You might have gotten a steal right there. Walker will be a good #3 for now and could even challenge for a #2 on the Texans squad.

 
4.08 (107) Houston Texans Mike Walker UCF

With the Texans missing a 2nd round pick it reallys set limits on how they can draft and a once deep position gets dry quick and instead of taking that last defensive need they aare forced to pull from another area in the draft and go WR. Mike Walker could be the SOD at the WR position. A year after coming off of an ACL and the guy runs a 4.35 (you got to be kidding) this tells me that this guy is either faster or quick than he is right now and maybe even both. good height and size and could challenge for a starting spot immediately.

I'm a firm believer that players that are drafted in rounds 2-4 should be starters are able to challenge to start.

Andy I just knew you were gonna take Walker for AZ or MINN. you also stole one of my sleepers in Bain. :goodposting:
:yes: I had Walker going to Arizona all day yesterday and even had his name typed in this morning. But then I started reading how he's not as fast in pads as he was on the track and I backed off. My next plan was for him to go to the Packers, which would have been a perfect fit.You might have gotten a steal right there. Walker will be a good #3 for now and could even challenge for a #2 on the Texans squad.
I nearly took Walker with one of those late 3rd rounders. I had him on a list I thought I was going to have to PM. Walker is MORE impressive on film than when running the 40. He playes bigger than he is. Sometimes you thought you were watching a 6-5 guy or even confused him with Brandon Marshall when they were together. Big Strong Fast Physical and always open with GREAT hands. I love this kid.
 
4.06 (105) Arizona (Andy Dufrense) - Laurent Robinson, WR, Illinois State
:confused: Hrmmmm, I think you some of you value WRs a little too highly, being FFers... That being said, I was hoping to get him @ 130. Same thing goes for Mike Walker; both are nice :shrug: ers.

:lmao:

 
4.08 (107) Houston Texans Mike Walker UCF

With the Texans missing a 2nd round pick it reallys set limits on how they can draft and a once deep position gets dry quick and instead of taking that last defensive need they aare forced to pull from another area in the draft and go WR. Mike Walker could be the SOD at the WR position. A year after coming off of an ACL and the guy runs a 4.35 (you got to be kidding) this tells me that this guy is either faster or quick than he is right now and maybe even both. good height and size and could challenge for a starting spot immediately.

I'm a firm believer that players that are drafted in rounds 2-4 should be starters are able to challenge to start.

Andy I just knew you were gonna take Walker for AZ or MINN. you also stole one of my sleepers in Bain. :thumbdown:
:own3d: I had Walker going to Arizona all day yesterday and even had his name typed in this morning. But then I started reading how he's not as fast in pads as he was on the track and I backed off. My next plan was for him to go to the Packers, which would have been a perfect fit.You might have gotten a steal right there. Walker will be a good #3 for now and could even challenge for a #2 on the Texans squad.
Walker is the reason I took Brian Robinson in the 3rd. Now if the texans had a 2nd I would have waited till the 4th on Robinson but I knew Walker wouldn't make it out of the 4th. I almost went DB as I think there is one more starter left and I hope he falls to the 5th for me.
 
4.06 (105) Arizona (Andy Dufrense) - Laurent Robinson, WR, Illinois State
Hrmmmm, I think you some of you value WRs a little too highly, being FFers... That being said, I was hoping to get him @ 130. Same thing goes for Mike Walker; both are nice :eek: ers. :own3d:
I know the 4th is a bit too high for Robinson, but I wanted to prove a point (that the Cards could use a speed WR) and since we're not going more than four rounds (I'm not anyway) I wanted to sneak this pick in.But Walker is shooting up the boards and will likely be taken in the 3rd. So I don't think that's a stretch at all where prymetyme25 took him.

 
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4.06 (105) Arizona (Andy Dufrense) - Laurent Robinson, WR, Illinois State
:confused: Hrmmmm, I think you some of you value WRs a little too highly, being FFers... That being said, I was hoping to get him @ 130. Same thing goes for Mike Walker; both are nice :lmao: ers.

;)
I see the point, and we'll see how this shakes out, but I argued back in December that love for this WR class has nothing to do with FF. NFL teams need to find players in this draft who can contribute. With the heavy drop offs at the other positions and the long depth at WR, I agree the WRs may linger, but I also think the smart teams will gobble them up. Honestly, the remaining OLs and many already chosen, have almost no chance imo to have an impact in the NFL. :no: If I am a GM and I don't get Thomas I probably do not draft a single OL depending on how a few fall, but the lack of supply is creating a high demand for very questionable football players.

:lmao:

 
Miami with the 108th picks selects Scott Chandler TE Iowa

Miami lost McMichael this offseason and could definetly use a nice option at the TE position. While this might be early for an OVERSIZED Wr playing TE Cameron will try to use him like another undesized TE he had been play calling for the last couple of years. I'm sure some think this is to early for him but Iowa is my favorite football program and after watching almost every game of his last year liked what I saw.

 
4.10 (109) Atlanta Falcons select Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska

I think Brandon Jackson is a gifted RB with a diverse mix of vision speed agility and power. He is also a good recieving option out of the backfield and a decent blocker. If he was not in a time share in Nebraska I think he would be more highly regarded than he is right now. Jackson is a player that can fit into any scheme and be a feature RB. The only question I have about him succeeding at the next level is his durability to handle a full workload. Not because I think he cannot but just because we have not seen him be a feature Rb for a full season yet.

Jackson will compete with Norwood to take over for Dunn who is probobly in his last year. Norwood looks like a great players also. This may become a situation similar to what we saw in Dallas in 2006 with Norwood leading off and in between the 20s, Jackson coming in on 3rd downs and short yardage. Eventualy I think Jackson will win the full time job.

Some might be thinking the former LSU coach will take a different RB but I am running thier draft and I think Jackson is the best RB after Lynch.

 
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4.10 (109) Atlanta Falcons select Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska

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Ah man!!!! Are you kidding? That was my sneak pick for the Bills. He was gonna be my RB to get carries along side A-Train. I was intentionally picking around the RB situation thinking he was gonna be there in the 4th. I also didn't think Bush was gonna be taken so early but maybe the news of his rehab going well kicked him up a bit. Oh well. Looks like the Bills will have to run with a different RB for the 2007 season.
 
4.10 (109) Atlanta Falcons select Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska

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Ah man!!!! Are you kidding? That was my sneak pick for the Bills. He was gonna be my RB to get carries along side A-Train. I was intentionally picking around the RB situation thinking he was gonna be there in the 4th. I also didn't think Bush was gonna be taken so early but maybe the news of his rehab going well kicked him up a bit. Oh well. Looks like the Bills will have to run with a different RB for the 2007 season.
:X No I am not kidding. Snooze you lose.ATrain can get the job done. He doesen't need any help. :thumbdown:

If things play out like this in the real draft maybe Atlanta will take a different Rb as many have suggested. I just don't think it would be the right thing for them to do.

I think there are still Rbs worth taking for the Bills left. Too bad none of them are as good as Jackson.

 
Sorry guys this damn work stuff keeps getting in the way ...

4.11 San Francisco 49ers select J. Jones WR, Lane College

The Niners can still use more depth at WR and I like this prospect and don't think he will be around when the 49ers make it back to the podium later in the round.

 
Are we all working off the same cheatsheets or something? Jacoby Jones was the guy for at least three of us - you take him, I get a PM for him, and I was targeting him to the Pack.

Good player.

 
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4.12 Buffalo Bills select Chris Henry RB, Arizona

Well, he's not as good as Jackson but I think he will do some good things while in a RBBC with A-Train. The guy has all the physical tools you want for an NFL RB but needs to be taught some things. His combine times are too tough to ignore and I'm hoping Marv can look past some of his charecter issues and bring his talents to Buffalo. Jauron and his RB staff need to know what they're dealing with in Henry. A very gifted athlete that needs to learn how to play the RB position. After sitting and playing behind A-Train for a year I think Henry can become a decent starter in the NFL if he ever gets the chance. I look at him as a RB similar to Michael Bennett. A guy who has a great track background but has no vision and no ability to "juke" someone out of thier shoes. Lets hope he's a quick learner.

 
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4.13 Green Bay Packers - Tim Shaw, LB/DE Penn State

The Packers have a terrible lack of depth in their LB corps. Plus, KGB is now a non-factor on the defense.

Enter Tim Shaw, a tremendously versatile and tenacious player that put up crazy numbers at both the combine and the Penn State pro day. He could be lined up at just about any linebacker spot and could be played at end in a pinch - just as he was this last year in Happy Valley.

BPA for the Packer's needs at this point, IMO.

 
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Jacoby Jones was just on Sirius NFL Radio, that kid is a lot of fun to listen to, great attitude.

 
4.14 Jacksonville Jaguars - A.J. Davis , CB North Carolina State

The ACC connection lives on with AJ Davis being selected to compete for the nickle corner spot and hopefully have some considerations for the starting job down the road. But right now he is a huge steal to play Nickle as he is best suited when he does not play man and can rely on his instincts to break towards the play. The Jaguars scheme allows him to do so in this scenario.

The Jaguars have a logjam at Nickle corner but will certainly be losing their top two options very soon. Caroll has only one year left on his contract and Terry Cousin is getting up there in terms of age. Regardless, AJ Davis has to be taken because of his value here and will certainly compete with Dee Webb for that Nickle spot next year if not this year.

LB was a possibility but we're still looking at many solid prospects still on the board. Ill pass up here.

 
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4.15 Cincinnati Bengals Allen Barbre OL Missouri Southern St.

Athletic big man who ran a sub 4.9 - 40 at the combine. Played tackle in college, but could also play guard. He could either be an heir to Willie Anderson or take over for Steinbach. It will probably take him a little while to catch up to the pro game, but should get there eventually. Good value pick at this point in the draft. Not a lot of big, athletic linemen with a frame to grow available at this point in the draft.

 
4.16 Tennessee Titans - Doug Datish Ohio ST

Happy to take the 3rd best center here...With Mawae getting long in the tooth, nice pick to learn from him and also fill in at guard

Datish played all five O-line positions at Ohio State. He has starting experience at guard, tackle, and center. His versatility will prove invaluable to the team that drafts him. On the other hand, he lacks the strength and bulk to move NFL defensive tackles, and gets by more on grit, quicks, and smarts than physical gifts. He would make a great "6th man" and should be an early second day pick.

---nfldraftguys

 
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The New York Football Giants select:

4.17 – Mario Henderson, OT. Florida State

I almost took him in the 3rd round, but I correctly suspected a run on RBs, so I took Pittman instead since there is a big drop-off from him to the RBs still available. I am thrilled to see Henderson still on the board in the 4th. He has the size and athletic combination that can make him an excellent starting LT for many years. He needs to learn better technique, but he can do that. He won’t be ready to start right away, but he will eventually take over at LT and allow Deihl to move back to LG, where he is a top player. Diehl is at least as good as Petitgout was at LT, so he is a fine fill-in until Henderson is ready. Plus, as an added bonus, the Giants will finally have a LT whose last name I can spell without having to look it up.

 
Are we all working off the same cheatsheets or something? Jacoby Jones was the guy for at least three of us - you take him, I get a PM for him, and I was targeting him to the Pack.Good player.
Who knew? I missed the interview on Sirius so I don't know much about the kid other than what I've read. Another small school receiver that has upside - good size, decent speed, possible returner, but also has question marks with respect to consistency and route running.Glad I didn't hold off, I almost waited until my next 4th.There is pretty good depth through through to the end of the 3rd round but it really starts to drop off. Makes me think there will be a lot of movement with teams like NO and SF, and maybe even IND and TEN trying to package up multiple picks to move up. SF can package their own 4th and 3rd to slide into the bottom of the 2nd and still have three 4ths. Based on this draft that could potentially get them an outside edge rusher like Moses. Add the 4.5 from Washington and they can move right up into the middle of the 2nd.
 
With the 117th pick the Stl Rams select OG/C Dustin Fry, Clemson

This gives the Rams alitte depth on the Oline and I would like to see the unstable Incognito teaming up with this cat to take on opposing Dlines. Just a depth pick

Pick was PM'ed by Blackjacks

 
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4.20 Deshawn Wynn RB Florida

I'll be honest I stole the idea for this pick from Todd McShay, but I like the idea of Pitt grabbing a mid-round RB to spell Parker.

The Steelers NEED an OLB and I was hoping for Tim Shaw, but when he didn't fall I went RB instead. Davneport's best days are behind him and you know the steelers are going to run the ball.

 
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4.21 (120) Seattle (Andy Dufrense) - Baraka Atkins

Happy to have addressed the three biggest needs for the Seahawks with what should be three starters.

Atkins was apparently very well received by Seattle at the combine.

A guy 6'5" and 270lbs running a 4.69? Niiiiice. :clap:

I think Holmgren should be able to keep his motor running.

 
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4.21 (120) Seattle (Andy Dufrense) - Baraka Atkins

Happy to have addressed the three biggest needs for the Seahawks with what should be three starters.

Atkins was apparently very well received by Seattle at the combine.

A guy 6'5" and 270lbs running a 4.69? Niiiiice. :thumbup:

I think Holmgren should be able to keep his motor running.
DAMMIT man i thought he was gonna slip through the cracks.
 
The Dallas Cowboys select:

Mason Crosby - PK Colorado

The Cowboys currently have damaged goods at kicker and need to address the position long term.

 
I someone picking for New England? I see no name attached.
aposulli never responded to a PM or to the original post so Im not sure he's still picking. If anyone wants the pick its theirs. Ill give him a PM for good measure but if anyone steps up to claim it i have no issues.
 

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