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FBG Survivor Round Two - League One (1 Viewer)

Lash

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http://football12.myfantasyleague.com/2009...=69858&O=17

DRAFT ORDER

1.01 - Lash

1.02 - Andy Dufresne

1.03 - Will Grant

1.04 - EvilGrin72

1.05 - Jason Wood

1.06 - BusMan

1.07 - John Norton

1.08 - David Dodds

1.09 - ffjunk

1.10 - Deranged Hermit

1.11 - acefootball

1.12 - RustyFA2

22 rounds - 12 Team PPR League - 3RR draft - Weeks 6-10

Starting Lineups

1 QB
2 RBs
3 WRs
1 TE
1 flex (RB, WR, TE)
1 PK
1 defQB, RB, WR, TE Scoring

Passing TD - 4
Rushing / Receiving TD - 6
Passing Yard - 0.05
Rushing / Receiving Yard - 0.1
2-point Conversion - 2
Reception - 1PK Scoring

PAT - 1
FG (0 to 30 yards) - 3
FG (31 to 99 yards) - 0.1 per yardDST Scoring

Fumble Recovery - 2
INT - 2
Sack - 1
Safety - 2
TD - 6
0 Points Allowed - 10
2 to 9 Points Allowed - 5
10 to 19 Points Allowed - 3
20 to 29 Points Allowed - 1
30 to 99 Points Allowed - 0
 
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Whats the best draft position to have in this 3RR format?
Pasquino had an article on this a year or so agoif i remember the article i think you pretty much don't want in the middle, either 1-3, 10-12 are pretty good
 
acefootball added

figured the Thursday slot will get filled up with alot of the high seeds

 
gotcha Bus, we were in Round One together last year, i'm glad you're in this league because i have always appreciated your commentary in these threads - good breakdowns

 
I have the 12 spot. I just thought getting to pick again at 25 was too good to pass.

Can you guys explain the best ball/all start? What week is what? Also do we have a league web site set up yet?

 
definitely the league to be in for fierce competition :eek:

4 of the top 12 seeds and no one over #23 yet

 
Chances are that I will be in this league as 4 out of my 5 top choices were for here. The other one was for the other Thursday league, but they only had one spot left.

 
I'm afraid I might be pre-drafting my entire draft. Good for you guys. Bad for me. Bad for the overall competition, but what's a guy to do?

 
I'm afraid I might be pre-drafting my entire draft. Good for you guys. Bad for me. Bad for the overall competition, but what's a guy to do?
Maybe one of the staff guys has a few hours to kill and can help. I know Dowling and Hicks were eliminated in the 1st round of the league I was in.
 
I'm afraid I might be pre-drafting my entire draft. Good for you guys. Bad for me. Bad for the overall competition, but what's a guy to do?
Maybe one of the staff guys has a few hours to kill and can help. I know Dowling and Hicks were eliminated in the 1st round of the league I was in.
So was Rudnicki.
I could do yours as long as ffjunk doesn't need it. If he does, maybe Mr Gray can help you?
 
RustyFA2 said:
I have the 12 spot. I just thought getting to pick again at 25 was too good to pass.Can you guys explain the best ball/all start? What week is what? Also do we have a league web site set up yet?
Hey, Rusty, I took the 12 spot, too. I wasn't sure where the best place to be was so I opted for the back to back picks - it alleviates alot of thinking. I am going to be VERY interested in League 1's draft tonight and especially what your team looks like.
 
RustyFA2 said:
I have the 12 spot. I just thought getting to pick again at 25 was too good to pass.Can you guys explain the best ball/all start? What week is what? Also do we have a league web site set up yet?
Hey, Rusty, I took the 12 spot, too. I wasn't sure where the best place to be was so I opted for the back to back picks - it alleviates alot of thinking. I am going to be VERY interested in League 1's draft tonight and especially what your team looks like.
I was hellbent on getting a pick as close to the end as possible. I was thrilled to get pick 10.
 
i posted draft link at top of first post

i also wanted back to back picks, and i also wanted to try a new 3RR strategy picking at top so 4 of my five choices were picking from there in each of the four leagues

i don't think it'll work hehe

 
Here is my roster. I am not sure how I did at all as I deviated from a lot of my usual strategies in this one:

QBs: Tony Romo, Carson Palmer and Kyle Orton

RBs: Brian Westbrook, Thomas Jones, Michael Bush, Darren McFadden, Willis McGahee, Derrick Ward

WRs: Reggie Wayne, TJ Houshmandzadeh, Donald Driver, Derrick Mason, Robert Meachem, Michael Clayton, Bryant Johnson, Louis Murphy

TEs: Dallas Clark, Vernon Davis, Dante Rosario

PK: Rackers

Def: Green Bay

I opted to choose just 1 Def and PK here to be very deep everywhere else. Both my PK and Def have already had their bye weeks. My RBs look weak, but I am hoping the shotgun approach can work in this. I will likely bleed some points at PK and Def, but am hoping to make that up with three solid QBs and TEs. I also have some possible bye weeks issues (top 2 TEs are off in week 6), 3 RBs off in week 9, and 3 WRs off in week 7 that could derail this team. My overall strategy is to crush it in weeks 8 and 10 and be deep enough to be above average the other three weeks. Hopefully that will be enough to advance.

 
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My team. Again, I think this was one of my worst draft efforts in years:

Deranged Hermit - Deranged Hermit

Kolb, Kevin PHI QB

McNabb, Donovan PHI QB

Sanchez, Mark NYJ QB

McNabb or Cutler were my QB targets before the draft and I think I pulled the trigger on him a little early. I was running between the computer and a screaming kid and I didn't notice that one of the guys between me and my next pick (I was the 10th pick) had a QB. I lost out on Simms-Walker because of that. Sanchez is a competent enough backup and Kolb is McNabb insurance.

Brown, Donald IND RB

Buckhalter, Correll DEN RB

Coffee, Glen SFO RB

Gore, Frank SFO RB

Rice, Ray BAL RB

Wells, Chris ARI RB

I like this group a bit more than I did last night. Gore and Rice should be rock solid. Brown and Buck should give me enough to help out on my starters bye weeks. I'm crossing my fingers that Wells gives me something.

Berrian, Bernard MIN WR

Breaston, Steve ARI WR

Clayton, Mark BAL WR

Colston, Marques NOS WR

Crayton, Patrick DAL WR

Holmes, Santonio PIT WR

I like Colston but I'm meh on the rest. I was snaked left and right on my WR.

Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE

Witten, Jason DAL TE

Hopefully Dallas can get Witten out in the middle of the field instead of blocking. I really need him to pick up the slack of my WR corp.

Brown, Kris HOU PK

Gould, Robbie CHI PK

At least Gould had his bye.

Bills, Buffalo BUF Def

Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def

Giants, New York NYG Def

I learned from round one that you can steal points by carrying an extra Defense. I love the NYG defense, but I'm just hedging my bets a litttle here. There always seems to be a few 20 point efforts put up by D's in a given week and hopefully I can have a few of them.

All in all, I was very disappointed with my effort last night. I really wish I had time to prepare more, but that just wasn't in the cards for me this week.

 
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I'm quite pleased with my team, which is clearly characterized by betting that my top three backs will have demonstrably better 2nd legs than they did in the first five weeks. I figured either I would crash and burn (b/c they continue to flounder) or at least two of them would capitalize on easy schedules over this span and lead me to the Top 3 finish we need to advance.

Quarterbacks (QB)

Brees, Drew NOS QB

Flacco, Joe BAL QB

Johnson, Josh TBB QB

I love that Brees is done his bye, and Flacco has been putting up solid yardage. Hopefully I won't need Josh Johnson but he was the last 'starter' available I would've taken in this draft.

Running Backs (RB)

Bell, Mike NOS RB (P)

Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB

Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB

Williams, Carnell TBB RB

Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB

Obviously if Tomlinson, DeAngelo and Jacobs keep up the pace of the first 5 weeks, I'm toast. I'm betting that won't happen. At least for two of the three. And if I'm right? My team should cruise.

Wide Receivers (WR)

Bennett, Earl CHI WR

Britt, Kenny TEN WR

Burleson, Nate SEA WR (Q)

Clowney, David NYJ WR

Moore, Lance NOS WR

Northcutt, Dennis DET WR

Robiskie, Brian CLE WR

Smith, Steve NYG WR

In this kind of format, it's really a volume game. Burleson and Smith are the stars here, and have been WR1 and WR2s respectively so far. The rest I'm just hoping can collectively give me a decent WR3 each week. The advantage of Best Ball is you can draft guys like Britt or Moore who might do nothing for two weeks and then have 2 for 50 and a TD.

Tight Ends (TE)

Fasano, Anthony MIA TE

Winslow, Kellen TBB TE

Happy with Winslow, took Fasano late just to give myself a 2nd option. Fasano won't catch much, but he should be good for a random TD catch or two. Hopefully they come in the weeks Winslow has a down effort.

Place Kickers (PK)

Akers, David PHI PK

Folk, Nick DAL PK

They're kickers. Nothing (much) to see here beyond that. Philly had its bye and produces a lot of points. Here's hoping.

Defenses

Broncos, Denver DEN Def

Jets, New York NYJ Def

Two surprisingly strong defenses with very appealing schedules from Weeks 6-10

 
Pre Draft Analysis/Setup

There's no ADP data for us draftniks to use and abuse in these mid-season drafts. You've got to set up your value lists and go with your gut. Thats not easy when you're competing against the best of the staff and MBers. Everyone knows what they're doing, while simultaneously feeling out how to take on a mid-season draft. Its a challenge and lots of fun.

I ended up picking the #6 spot in this 3RR because I like trying to scoop value in the middle of the draft. I thought the value bump of those near the turn in 3RR was reduced as no one really knew what to expect (again, no ADP).

I set up the Lineup Dominator with the league's scoring system and set the weights on all weeks outside of the scope of this league to zero. I tried opening the file in Draft Dominator to use some of its features, but I wasn't getting the same set of projections (not sure why). I downloaded Bloom's Week 6 projections to try to every so slightly mitigate having Dodds in this draft. I guess I was rolling with Bob Henry's forward projections. Once I had my value list in LD, I followed it rather closely. I know lots of folks see this as a weak way to draft, but its worked for me in the past.

Bye weeks were a much bigger problem in this round. It was pretty much impossible to avoid them, as I did in round 1 (with the exception of a kicker). The only approach is to try not to load up on too many same byes in a positional group, which I did (skipping players I liked better in the process).

The Draft

I was wedged in between Dodds and Wood; nuff said.

1.06 - Chris Johnson, RB -TEN/7: I like Johnson's big play potential in the best ball format. He's the anchor of my squad. I now know I have a big hole to fill in my lineup come week seven.

2.07 - Steve Smith, WR - CAR/4: Actually considered him at 1.06 but decided I needed a RB instead. I have him as WR1 in weeks 6-10 with no bye week issues. True, he disappointed in leg 1, so this is an optimistic take.

3.07 - Steve Slaton, WR - HOU/10: I'm not Slaton's biggest fan, but he seemed like value here. I have him as RB11 giving me two top backs and the license to address other positions with my next run of picks.

4.06 - Wes Welker, WR - NE/8: A bit dicey with his injury concerns, but he's straight cash :$: in PPR best ball leagues (if he plays).

5.07 - Jay Cutler, QB - CHI/5: Heading into the 4/5 turn, I decided I was going to take either Ryan or Cutler if one was still on the board, but I would pass on QB entirely if they were both there. When Norton grabbed Matt right before me, my decision was easy. Had both been available, I would have rolled the dice that one would fall back to me in Round 6 as only one team on the other side of the draft hadn't yet taken a QB. Cutler is looking strong and has no bye week issues.

6.06- Jeremy Shockey, TE - NO/5: I get the impression (I haven't looked it up) that Shockey is a bit inconsistent as a #1 TE. I had him as TE5 but I felt like I would need another solid option to cover for Shockey's down weeks.

7.07 - Mario Manningham, WR - NYG/10: Perhaps a bit of a reach, especially with Nicks' improvement. Still, he was the top WR (27) on my board, and you need plenty of WRs in this format.

8.06 - Jonathan Stewart, RB - CAR/4: LD was pushing Stewart on me for a few rounds, so I finally took the plunge. Not quite sure what I've got in him, especially when you consider that Carolina's offensive offense and D-Will are two big road blocks to his success. I guess I'm just trusting Bloom and Henry on this one.

9.07 - Donnie Avery, WR - STL/9: Another early season disappointment. The Rams are bad and will have to throw to compete. I'll come to like this pick even more later on in the draft.

10.06 - Muhsin Muhammad, WR - CAR/4: I swear I'm not a Panthers fan. Outside of Delhomme, Rosario, and D-Will, I now have their offense locked up. Oh boy.

11.07 - Chad Henne, QB - MIA/6: I should've taken Orton in the 10th. For some reason my cold-fogged brain deluded me into thinking he'd fall to me in the 11th. Favre, Cassel, Sanchez, Cassel, and Delhomme didn't make it either. I blame Dodds for taking his third cube before most took their second. Henne wasn't at the top of my list but I like his upside. Seems like he should be the starter for the duration of this league, and he showed more than a little last Monday night.

12.06 - Jermichael Finley, TE - GB/5 - Hey check it out I've got two TE1s (barely) with no bye weeks---I like it.

13.07 - New Orleans Saints, DEF - NO/5: The number one DEF on my board. Gregg Williams has them playing well, and that offense puts them in a position to succeed. No byes to boot.

14.06 - Kevin Faulk, RB - NE/8: I love this guy in best ball leagues. With Taylor hurt and Maroney sucking, I like Faulk's chances to get a bit more playing time. He's a great baseline RB in this format.

15.07 - Marc Bulger, QB - STL/9: Not 100% sure why I took Bulger here, except that I have a bit of optimism about his upside after coming in to relieve Boller last week. Bulger to Avery could be a darkhorse connection for me.

16.06 - Julian Edelman - NE/8: Sniped for the first time---I really wanted the Broncos as my second defense. Good work, Wood. I now have three pass-catchers in NE. Edelman will provide a baseline should Welker be ok to play, and a nice handcuff should Wes miss any time.

17.07 - Indianapolis Colts, DEF - IND/6: Just picked the defense off the top of my list. On second thought, maybe I shouldn't have taken a team with a week six bye. Now I'm rolling with New Orleans against New York this weekend. Hopefully that won't handicap me too much.

18.06 - Matt Stover, PK - IND/6: Stover, maintainer of journals chronicling every kick he's ever made, including practice, should fill in nicely while Vinatieri convalesces.

19.07 - Davone Bess, WR - MIA/6: Hopefully Henne to Bess flourishes in weeks 7-10.

20.06 - Kelly Washington, WR - BAL/7: Washington has had a slight career renaissance with Flacco heaving him the rock. He teams up with Bess and Edelman to form the back end of my WR corps.

21.07 - Justin Forsett, RB - SEA/7: I didn't want to roll with only four RBs but I hadn't liked anything available for quite some time. Of all the names I scrolled through, Forsett seemed to have the most upside. And today Mike Sando predicts an increase in his touches/playing time. May it be so, Sando.

22.06 - Steven Hauschka, PK - BAL/7: Need someone to score some PK points in Week 6.

The Team

QB Jay Cutler, CHI/5QB Chad Henne, MIA/6QB Marc Bulger, STL/9RB Chris Johnson, TEN/7RB Steve Slaton, HOU/10RB Jonathan Stewart, CAR/4RB Kevin Faulk, NE/8RB Justin Forsett, SEA/7WR Steve Smith, CAR/4WR Wes Welker, NE/8WR Mario Manningham, NYG/10WR Muhsin Muhammad, CAR/4WR Donnie Avery, STL/9WR Kelley Washington, BAL/7WR Julian Edelman, NE/8WR Davone Bess, MIA/6TE Jeremy Shockey, NO/5TE Jermichael Finley, GB/5PK Matt Stover, IND/6PK Steve Hauschka, BAL/7DEF New Orleans, NO/5DEF Indianapolis, IND/6No big bye issues. I like my chances.The Results...

Code:
BusMan			44-11 - 724.4acefootball	   36-19 - 683.4Jason Wood		35-20 - 692.3~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Andy Dufresne	 31-24 - 681.5Will Grant		31-24 - 674.4David Dodds	   28-27 - 679.1Lash			  28-27   661.2EvilGrin72		25-30 - 652.4John Norton	   24-31 - 644.4Deranged Hermit   23-32 - 654.9ffjunk			14-41 - 632.1RustyFA2		  11-44 - 610.0
It was fun guys good luck to all!
 
I'm not happy with my draft. I felt ill-prepared for a mid-season draft, it was a lot tougher than anticipated. Full rundown next week.

 
Looks like Lash has this first week locked up, but there are a lot of teams bunched up from spot 2-8. If Buckhalter puts up a TD and 70 or so combined yards, I could steal a few games that I didn't expect thanks to Rice and my WR.

 
Since there are a bunch of quiet f'ers here, here's how week 1 went for those following at home:

Lash scored 193 points 11-0

BusMan scored 174.8 points 10-1

Jason Wood scored 170.7 points 9-2

Deranged Hermit scored 169.6 points 8-3

David Dodds scored 169.1 points 7-4

acefootball scored 168.4 points 6-5

John Norton scored 163.9 points 5-6

ffjunk scored 154.7 points 4-7

Andy Dufresne scored 153.8 points 3-8

Will Grant scored 149.6 points 2-9

RustyFA2 scored 141.8 points 1-10

EvilGrin72 scored 121.8 points 0-11

 
Run-down :

My team sucks.

I had no idea how to prepare for a mid-season draft and it was an epic fail. Next year, I will get to round 3.

 
I really thought I would make a big jump thanks to MNF. That said, I assumed it would be thanks to Tomlinson and not a monster game from the Denver D. My trio of DeAngelo, LT and Jacobs went 1 for 3 this week. That won't be good enough to advance IMHO.

 
1-10. At least I wasn't the bum that got last. I am going to need to have the most points from here on out it seems. That and route for the teams with the best records to have the worst. Horrible. I blame Dodds for taking my players.

 
I really needed the sweep this week after last week. Bye weeks should no longer be an issue now, so I hope my team can keep chugging along.

 
C'mon Santonio and Buckhalter! I need decent games from you both tonight.

I've really enjoyed this experience so far. Thank you guys again for allowing me to join. Hopefully my RB corp of Gore and Rice can put up one more great week....

 
I think the only one from the top 5 this week that will have a problem is Lash. No QB. But his team might be good enough to hold off a big drop.

Going to be close finish among the top 5/6. Good luck.

 
For those keeping score at home. C'mon message boarders, let hold off the staff this last week and take the spots in the next round!:

League Standings

Franchise W-L-T Pct GB PF Avg PF PA Avg PA

Lash 33-11-0 .750 0.0 657.2 164.3 6464.0 146.9

Deranged Hermit 32-12-0 .727 1.0 620.3 155.1 6500.9 147.7

BusMan 29-14-1 .670 3.5 631.4 157.8 6489.8 147.5

Jason Wood 28-16-0 .636 5.0 619.1 154.8 6502.1 147.8

John Norton 27-17-0 .614 6.0 654.3 163.6 6466.9 147.0

David Dodds 25-19-0 .568 8.0 628.9 157.2 6492.3 147.6

ffjunk 24-19-1 .557 8.5 583.6 145.9 6537.6 148.6

Andy Dufresne 17-27-0 .386 16.0 564.2 141.1 6557.0 149.0

acefootball 16-28-0 .364 17.0 565.3 141.3 6555.9 149.0

EvilGrin72 16-28-0 .364 17.0 544.2 136.1 6577.0 149.5

Will Grant 15-29-0 .341 18.0 590.9 147.7 6530.3 148.4

RustyFA2 1-43-0 .023 32.0 461.8 115.5 6659.4 151.3

 
I am leading with one week left but sans QB in week 10 so it was fun while it lasted

it's what i get for drafting SHill as my 3rd QB i guess (Schaub/Manning bye week this week), they were 3-2 with a miracle loss @ MIN that kept them from being 4-1 when i drafted him

who knew?

solid solid team too so it is a shame really as a zero at QB will not keep me in the top 3 (think i have a 5 game lead to stay in 3rd)

maybe if i can sneak out a 4-7 as long as 4th or fifth place teams don't go 11-0 or 10-1

p.s. is it wrong to root for ASmith to get hit on the first series and get punch drunk for a couple hours but be fine after the game? LOL

 
I am leading with one week left but sans QB in week 10 so it was fun while it lasted it's what i get for drafting SHill as my 3rd QB i guess (Schaub/Manning bye week this week), they were 3-2 with a miracle loss @ MIN that kept them from being 4-1 when i drafted himwho knew?solid solid team too so it is a shame really as a zero at QB will not keep me in the top 3 (think i have a 5 game lead to stay in 3rd)maybe if i can sneak out a 4-7 as long as 4th or fifth place teams don't go 11-0 or 10-1p.s. is it wrong to root for ASmith to get hit on the first series and get punch drunk for a couple hours but be fine after the game? LOL
You're still in reasonably good shape. Like you said, I or one of the guys below me has to really have a strong week or you'll hang on for a spot.
 
I am leading with one week left but sans QB in week 10 so it was fun while it lasted

it's what i get for drafting SHill as my 3rd QB i guess (Schaub/Manning bye week this week), they were 3-2 with a miracle loss @ MIN that kept them from being 4-1 when i drafted him

who knew?

solid solid team too so it is a shame really as a zero at QB will not keep me in the top 3 (think i have a 5 game lead to stay in 3rd)

maybe if i can sneak out a 4-7 as long as 4th or fifth place teams don't go 11-0 or 10-1

p.s. is it wrong to root for ASmith to get hit on the first series and get punch drunk for a couple hours but be fine after the game? LOL
You're still in reasonably good shape. Like you said, I or one of the guys below me has to really have a strong week or you'll hang on for a spot.
Very PRELIMINARY and UNOFFICIAL scoring, i believe BusMan, DerangedHermit, and Lash will move on as it looks like the emboldened part above is going to be exactly what happensstill kicking myself for changing from picking Maroney to EGraham in the last round AND for not covering my backside well enough after drafting Week 10 byes at my QB1 and QB2 but i guess i survived (even though it may have cost me the #1 seed from this pool and a high kentucky derby pick in next round)

Clayton if you are lurking on this thread I beg you to hold the draft during the week for the last round (i coach basketball for a living and my team plays on Fri Nite, Sat afternoon, and Sat nite

i'm guessing we need to draft before Thursday game so Wed nite is probably the target night anyways

 
I haven't crunched the numbers, but with Ray Rice still to play (minus 5 points) I should be safe. i only need a few points to pass Lash and a few more points to pass a few others.

 

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