Fearless Predictions for 2007 (1 Viewer)

[ceo3west]

A lot of guys make predictions on this site, but few really go out on a limb. I always like to hear other guys' outrageous predictions so please add your own if you got 'em.

* J. Cutler throws 27 TD's and lands in the top 3

* K. Boller replaces McNair this year & becomes a solid fantasy QB

* T. Green gets back to fantasy respectability and leads the Fins to the playoffs

* R. Bush touches the ball over 350 times and lands in the top 3

* R. Droughns has more touches than B. Jacobs by year end

* A. Green has a top 15 season in Houston

* R. Moss regains elite status cracking the top 5 this year

* P. Crayton ends up with more fantasy points than T. Glenn

* G. Jennings catches 85 balls

* V. Davis ends up the #1 fantasy TE this year

* T. Scheffler catches 7 TD's

 

[shadyridr]

* R. Droughns has more touches than B. Jacobs by year end* A. Green has a top 15 season in Houston* R. Moss regains elite status cracking the top 5 this year* P. Crayton ends up with more fantasy points than T. Glenn

I love these esp the Crayton one

 

[Cerwin]

*Michael Turner takes over SD starting gig due to unknown circumstance and scores >10 TDs

 

[Couch Potato]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking.

I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.

So kudos to you and others who like going public.

I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

 

[Blackjacks]

A lot of guys make predictions on this site, but few really go out on a limb. I always like to hear other guys' outrageous predictions so please add your own if you got 'em.

* J. Cutler throws 27 TD's and lands in the top 3 wow

* K. Boller replaces McNair this year & becomes a solid fantasy QB can't see this one

* T. Green gets back to fantasy respectability and leads the Fins to the playoffs

* R. Bush touches the ball over 350 times and lands in the top 3 I hope

* R. Droughns has more touches than B. Jacobs by year end I think

* A. Green has a top 15 season in Houston I agree

* R. Moss regains elite status cracking the top 5 this year Would love to see it

* P. Crayton ends up with more fantasy points than T. Glenn love to see you go out on more of a limb and say he outscores TO

* G. Jennings catches 85 balls not gonna happen

* V. Davis ends up the #1 fantasy TE this year dude has skills

* T. Scheffler catches 7 TD's definetly agree

 

[NYGus]

Brandon Jacobs: 900-1100yds and 12-15 TD's

 

[Gottabesweet]

Caddy Williams runs for 1200 yards and scores 8 times

DJ Hackett cracks 1000

Moss lands back in the top 10

Brad Smith will suprise at WR3 for the Jets

Manning's TD total drops to 26

McGahee stuggles to reach 1000 and barely gets it.

 

[Stealthycat]

* J. Cutler throws 27 TD's and lands in the top 3 YESS if he does, Javon Walker is a top 3 WR but I like this proejection of Cutler

* K. Boller replaces McNair this year & becomes a solid fantasy QB ??????? who cares ...... its Baltimore

* T. Green gets back to fantasy respectability and leads the Fins to the playoffs NOOOOOOO , he'll get his gourd rang and out by week 5

* R. Bush touches the ball over 350 times and lands in the top 3 YESSSSSSS

* R. Droughns has more touches than B. Jacobs by year end MAYBE but 1/4 the TD's

* A. Green has a top 15 season in Houston YESSSSSSS

* R. Moss regains elite status cracking the top 5 this year NOOOOOO he'll be lucky to get 55 catches

* P. Crayton ends up with more fantasy points than T. Glenn NOOOOOOO Glen is still a good FF starter

* G. Jennings catches 85 balls YESSSSS

* V. Davis ends up the #1 fantasy TE this year NOOOOO nobody knocks off Gates in his prime

* T. Scheffler catches 7 TD's MAYBE

 

[TDavi118]

Willis McGahee: 341-1586- 16

 

[CA_7]

Peyton Manning throws 50 TDs, Manning owners got love the changes on Indy’s D

Alex Smith, thanks to the high scoring NFC West, throws for 3500 and 25 and becomes an every week starter in larger leagues

Travis Henry, the human bowling ball, has the rocky mountain high and runs for 1800 and 20 TDs

Tatum Bell thrives in the Matrz's system with no KevJones, top 10 finish

Santonio Holmes passes Hines as the #1 option in PIT and cracks 1000 yards

 

[ceo3west]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking. I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.So kudos to you and others who like going public.I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate. All they are to me is a guidleline as to what other guys are thinking about players. I've seen too many guys go by these lists on draft day, and end up mid-pack or worse.I like Curry also, someone has to emerge there and I like his chances.

 

[Blackjacks]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking. I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.So kudos to you and others who like going public.I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate. All they are to me is a guidleline as to what other guys are thinking about players. I've seen too many guys go by these lists on draft day, and end up mid-pack or worse.I lieke Curry also, someone has to emerge there and I like his chances.

I just think it's fun

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Brandon Jones > 25

Lee Evans <20

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

Willis McGahee: 341-1586- 16

 

[ceo3west]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking. I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.So kudos to you and others who like going public.I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate. All they are to me is a guidleline as to what other guys are thinking about players. I've seen too many guys go by these lists on draft day, and end up mid-pack or worse.I lieke Curry also, someone has to emerge there and I like his chances.

I just think it's fun

That too..

 

[David Yudkin]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking. I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.So kudos to you and others who like going public.I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

As a case in point, last year I had roughly the following in terms of rankings . . .Vick 4Kitna 5Brady 8Rivers 11McNabb 12I was forwarded an email from the site owners from someone demanding for my immediate resignation or the guy wanted to cancel his subscription, so I had to send a justification response to this person fully explaining why I ranked the players as I did because only an idiot would rank Brady and McNabb that low. So I killed an hour writing a personal response outlining the 87 reasons why I had the guys ranked where I did.And here's how they ended up . . .Vick 4Kitna 6Brady 7Rivers 9McNabb 12I hope the guy demanded a refund and got it, because his approach and behavior was atrocious. IMO, while I'm sure the site would like to keep his money, I don't think there's any place for berating people and demanding people be fired. After all, it's a game and a hobby. This is not brain surgery with lives on the line.The point is not so much that in this case I got the guys pegged pretty closely, but people will try to criticize people for not having the same thoughts as others. If people want to have completely different rankings FOR A REASON, so be it. But the masses will pretty much demand an explanation if your perspective does not fit with theirs.People will lace into if you have a very polarized view of things, and last year people thought I was nuts by ranking CTaylor and Gore higher than others. Or the year before when I said Larry Johnson was worth a 4th round pick. Or the year after Marshall Faulk had back to back years at #1 and I said he would not rank in the Top 10 the year after and people thought I had two heads. Again, the point is not to pat ourselves on the back for the ones we got right because every single one of us (staff or posters alike) don't get them all right. We all form an opinion and present it, some will agree, many will disagree, and we then watch the games to see how things turn out.I have no problem with people politely asking for a clarification or an explanation, but the folks that jump all over people and resort to name calling will not get far in terms of a response as far as I'm concerned.

 

[David Yudkin]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

 

[DocNiner52]

Nate Washington leads all Steeler receivers in touchdown catches in 2007.

WR Calvin Johnson catches 10 touchdowns in his rookie year.

TE Vernon Davis finishes as the #2 TE right behind Gates

The S.F. 49ers makes the playoffs.

The Kansas City Chiefs sign RB Corey Dillon fearing a Larry Johnson holdout.

 

[shadyridr]

Lee Evans- #1 WR

JP Losman- Top 10 QB

 

[Couch Potato]

Thanks for posting, David. You know I'm a big fan of yours, both in terms of FF acumen and overall.

I first took notice of "Anarchy99" (Yudkin) back when the Dunn/Duckett debate was raging in Duckett's early career, and I was on the Duckett side until some very well-made posts by David converted me. I guess we all know how that RB battle turned out.

For those new here or not familiar with this guy, if you look at FBG rankings and David Yudkin's are way different for a particular player, be sure to take a close look. I know I do. I do an "uh oh" when a player I've rostered because I'm high on him is someone David doesn't like when his rankings come out.

 

[ceo3west]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

This is true, and I agree with you about the Gore/C. Taylor example. In my experience, even if guys feel that a player (such as Gore) has a great chance of breaking out, they won't pull the trigger on him because there are other RB's that are "supposed" to be taken ahead of him according to the consensus. I am in a league where many guys don't think like this - the guy that took LT at #2 last year grabbed Gore in round 2 and won the league. There were 10-15 RB's ranked ahead of him (according to the consensus).

 

[David Yudkin]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

This is true, and I agree with you about the Gore/C. Taylor example. In my experience, even if guys feel that a player (such as Gore) has a great chance of breaking out, they won't pull the trigger on him because there are other RB's that are "supposed" to be taken ahead of him according to the consensus. I am in a league where many guys don't think like this - the guy that took LT at #2 last year grabbed Gore in round 2 and won the league. There were 10-15 RB's ranked ahead of him (according to the consensus).

Other good examples for me personally were Portis, Holmes, and Gates. I took these guys way earlier than other owners in my leagues would have and they literally laughed at me in taking them where I did. I think drafting by straight rankings or ADP can more often than not ruin your season, especially if there are players you are really, really high on and hope that they fall to you in another round. If I have someone in the Top 3 TE and could wait until the #10 TE to pick him great, but why chance seeing if he'll fall to TE 14? At a certain point you have to buy in a little earlier rather than risk not having him.

 

[TDavi118]

Thanks for posting, David. You know I'm a big fan of yours, both in terms of FF acumen and overall.I first took notice of "Anarchy99" (Yudkin) back when the Dunn/Duckett debate was raging in Duckett's early career, and I was on the Duckett side until some very well-made posts by David converted me. I guess we all know how that RB battle turned out.For those new here or not familiar with this guy, if you look at FBG rankings and David Yudkin's are way different for a particular player, be sure to take a close look. I know I do. I do an "uh oh" when a player I've rostered because I'm high on him is someone David doesn't like when his rankings come out.

Thanks for the inside info, man. I'll take heed.

 

[Blackjacks]

Bulger will be a top 3 qb

Garcia will be a top 15 qb

Romo won't be in the top 20 qb

Henry will be in the top 5

Thomas Jones and Benson in the top 10

Larry Johnson and Frank Gore not in the top 15

Roy Williams will be in the top 5

Santonio Holmes and Mark Clayton in the top 15

L Evans out of the top 15

Ben Watson top 6

T. Scheffler top 10

Crumpler out of the top 10

kickers and D's so what they're freaking kickers and defenses ("fanatic")

 

[Gottabesweet]

Lee Evans- #1 WRJP Losman- Top 10 QB

I hope your right, as a long time Bills fan - you wont be close.

 

[gheemony]

QBs:

McNabb is top 3

Roethlisberger is top 8

Bulger is barely top 10

Schaub is a hot commodity at the end of the season in dynasty leagues

RBs:

Gore is #1

LJ is out of the top 10

MJD is the new "Westbrook" and a dynasty darling - possible top 5

Shaun Alexander is not in the top 15

Cedric Benson - top 10

Caddy Williams - "fragile" becomes part of his nickname

Norwood - top 15 and chic dynasty pick for 2008

WRs:

Hackett is a solid #2 WR that everyone is predicting will be a #1 WR in 2008

Calvin Johnson - marginal #3 fantasy WR this season (but don't give up)

TEs:

Alge Crumpler - #2 TE

K:

Gostkowski - #1

D (pts for sacks, TOs, and TDs):

Ravens - out of the top5, maybe out of top 10

Patriots - over-rated as well

Packers - top 5

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

DYudkin and Couch..along these lines.. Is there an option on the subscription site that addresses strong convictions from the staff? In other words, I would be very interested to see basically an in depth version of this thread, but from the staff.

obviously all the staff does rankings from top to bottom, then theres news updates, spotlights and upside/downside etc.. Its all very valuable

im picturing an article that basically summarizes each staf members strongest conviction of the year, esp those against the norm

"ie if you take one thing away from my rankings, it would be to try to get Cedric Benson a round early because…" something like that

make sense? End of the workday so im rambling..

 

[David Yudkin]

DYudkin and Couch..along these lines.. Is there an option on the subscription site that addresses strong convictions from the staff? In other words, I would be very interested to see basically an in depth version of this thread, but from the staff.obviously all the staff does rankings from top to bottom, then theres news updates, spotlights and upside/downside etc.. Its all very valuableim picturing an article that basically summarizes each staf members strongest conviction of the year, esp those against the norm"ie if you take one thing away from my rankings, it would be to try to get Cedric Benson a round early because…" something like thatmake sense? End of the workday so im rambling..

Here's the thing. As the years have evolved, I basically most interested in three things:- Top level player scoring (PPG) and tiering. Rankings really don't have a lot of value IMO, as 10 guys could score within 8 points of each other and all of them have the same value in my book.- Identifying sleepers and guys that should do way better than expected--even if that gets them from unplayable to marginally playable as those guys can add depth.- Players that could be productive either on a short or longer term basis, but basically if they played a few games would they be worth starting or could they be a bye week filler.Based on that, surprisingly a lot of players won't really fall into any of those categories. For most leagues, a guy ranked as the #90 WR as an NFL starter might rank as the #60 WR but in a normal league that may not make any difference. But a guy that is a reserve that could rank as the #60 WR for the year in only 4 starts will definitely catch my attention.

 

[ceo3west]

Bulger will be a top 3 qb LOVE BULGER THIS YR

Garcia will be a top 15 qb BOLD, BUT I LIKE IT

Romo won't be in the top 20 qb IMPOSSIBLE - TOP 10 MATERIAL

Henry will be in the top 5 NOT SOLD ON TOP 5

Thomas Jones and Benson in the top 10 NICE CALL

Larry Johnson and Frank Gore not in the top 15 WOW

Roy Williams will be in the top 5 LOVE IT, HE'S IN

Santonio Holmes and Mark Clayton in the top 15 HOLMES MABEY, CLAYTON NOT SO SURE

L Evans out of the top 15 NO WAY

Ben Watson top 6 HMMM..

T. Scheffler top 10 LOVE THIS CALL OF COURSE

Crumpler out of the top 10 IN, EVEN WITH JOEY

kickers and D's so what they're freaking kickers and defenses ("fanatic")

 

[lebowski]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

Wouldn't you say that everyone's rankings are inaccurate? Occasionally we have a good year and get a lot of our rankings right, but for the most part no one is that accurate. You just have to get lucky and be right about the guys you draft and hope that other people draft the people you are wrong about.

 

[David Yudkin]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

Wouldn't you say that everyone's rankings are inaccurate? Occasionally we have a good year and get a lot of our rankings right, but for the most part no one is that accurate. You just have to get lucky and be right about the guys you draft and hope that other people draft the people you are wrong about.

You missed my point on this one. If a team has two guys vying for the starting RB job and half the staff has PLAYER X ranked 8th and PLAYER Y ranked 55th and half the staff has PLAYER X ranked 55th and PLAYER Y ranked 8th, they will both appear in the average rankings as 32nd. In this case, both players are on the SAME TEAM. But one of them will likely rank around 8th or 10th and the other one likely won't see the field and will rank in the 50s, but neither back would be likely to rank in the low 30s.

 

[Big Swizz]

Randy Moss wil lead all WR's in TD's

Braylon Edwards and Reggie Brown will have big numbers

Willis McGahee will have insane #'s

Antonio Gates will have Top 3 WR #'s

 

[lebowski]

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate.

I have found that consensus rankings are rarely accurate because some situtations are one way or the other. For example, if one team has two starting RB options and half the staff say PLAYER X will start and the other half feel PLAYER Y will start, then the two will tend to cancel themselves out in an average ranking. So the average will not accurately project what the outcome will likely be (either one or the other but probably not in the middle).

Wouldn't you say that everyone's rankings are inaccurate? Occasionally we have a good year and get a lot of our rankings right, but for the most part no one is that accurate. You just have to get lucky and be right about the guys you draft and hope that other people draft the people you are wrong about.

You missed my point on this one. If a team has two guys vying for the starting RB job and half the staff has PLAYER X ranked 8th and PLAYER Y ranked 55th and half the staff has PLAYER X ranked 55th and PLAYER Y ranked 8th, they will both appear in the average rankings as 32nd. In this case, both players are on the SAME TEAM. But one of them will likely rank around 8th or 10th and the other one likely won't see the field and will rank in the 50s, but neither back would be likely to rank in the low 30s.

Right, but my point is that half the people will get this wrong and half the people will get it right. Individual projections are just as inaccurate as consensus rankings. Overall projections are a pretty inaccurate science. Really it comes down to whether you are right on the players you pick in the draft. That means you only have to be accurate about 8% of your projections, but it needs to be the right 8 %. Obviously most of us here enjoy fantasy football making projections for players even if we are wrong 92% of the time.

 

[Zigg]

Stallworth will outperform Moss.

 

[David Yudkin]

Stallworth will outperform Moss.

I actually think Welker has a decent chance to outperform Stallworth but Moss will be the lead dog in NE.

 

[a_troll00]

You know, I've thought about this a number of times... if I were to suddenly have a listing of final actual end-of-season stats for 2007 (sort of a 'Back to the Future' thing) and posted them as my projections, I'd be 100% right but I'd still be ripped to shreds by some on this board who just can't deal with non-consensus rankings thinking.

I remember Yudkin, before he became staff and started posting rankings as part of the job, used to say he didn't like posting his rankings because they were so out of the mainstream and he didn't want to have to dedicate the time it would take to defend/justify them. Guys like LHUCKS seem to like doing so, but I sort of feel the same way as Yudkin did -- I don't post a lot of predictions because I don't want to have to be here a whole lot defending them, since mine are definitely non-consensus.

So kudos to you and others who like going public.

I'll give one -- Ronald Curry will be a top-15 WR. Projection -- 85/1100/8.

I hear you - I've never really used consensus rankings, simply because when all is said and done they are rarely accurate. All they are to me is a guidleline as to what other guys are thinking about players. I've seen too many guys go by these lists on draft day, and end up mid-pack or worse.I like Curry also, someone has to emerge there and I like his chances.

That is why I absolutely love Projections Dominator. If/when I see projections for a player that I think are a result of crack/heroin addictions, I can add my own projections. Then, the projections can be imported into Draft Dominator to see where they should go. Following the pack will definitely put you in the middle of the pack.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Grossman - top 10 QB ... was qb15 even after the horrible finish to the season

Big Ben - top 5 QB ... has been a top qb in a conservative offense .. now more open

MJD - top 5 RB ... was rb8 last year and fred is another year older

Santana - top 10 WR ... was two years ago and Campbell has approved

more to come if time ....

 

[David Yudkin]

Grossman - top 10 QB ... was qb15 even after the horrible finish to the seasonBig Ben - top 5 QB ... has been a top qb in a conservative offense .. now more openMJD - top 5 RB ... was rb8 last year and fred is another year olderSantana - top 10 WR ... was two years ago and Campbell has approvedmore to come if time ....

I love these threads, not that anyone's opinions are right or wrong, but I have COMPLETELY different opinions on these players. And I mean LIGHT YEARS apart on some of them. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. That's why they play the games.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

Grossman - top 10 QB ... was qb15 even after the horrible finish to the seasonBig Ben - top 5 QB ... has been a top qb in a conservative offense .. now more openMJD - top 5 RB ... was rb8 last year and fred is another year olderSantana - top 10 WR ... was two years ago and Campbell has approvedmore to come if time ....

I love these threads, not that anyone's opinions are right or wrong, but I have COMPLETELY different opinions on these players. And I mean LIGHT YEARS apart on some of them. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. That's why they play the games.

if half hit, I will be ecstatic .....

 

[Brutis]

Benson and Jacobs both crack the top 10 for rb's

 

[ceo3west]

Grossman - top 10 QB ... was qb15 even after the horrible finish to the season

Big Ben - top 5 QB ... has been a top qb in a conservative offense .. now more open

MJD - top 5 RB ... was rb8 last year and fred is another year older

Santana - top 10 WR ... was two years ago and Campbell has approved

more to come if time ....

I look for big things from Moss

 

[Couch Potato]

Grossman - top 10 QB ... was qb15 even after the horrible finish to the seasonBig Ben - top 5 QB ... has been a top qb in a conservative offense .. now more openMJD - top 5 RB ... was rb8 last year and fred is another year olderSantana - top 10 WR ... was two years ago and Campbell has approvedmore to come if time ....

I love these threads, not that anyone's opinions are right or wrong, but I have COMPLETELY different opinions on these players. And I mean LIGHT YEARS apart on some of them. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. That's why they play the games.

if half hit, I will be ecstatic .....

Interesting that I mentioned Curry as 'my guy' and you mentioned Santana Moss. No wonder we did the Branch+Curry for S. Moss trade a couple months ago, huh?

 

[awesomeness]

Jon Beck will start 4+ games this year.

Willis Mcgahee is top 5 RB

 

[Gopher State]

A lot of guys make predictions on this site, but few really go out on a limb. I always like to hear other guys' outrageous predictions so please add your own if you got 'em.* J. Cutler throws 27 TD's and lands in the top 3 Nope, T. Henry controls the ground/clock for Denver* K. Boller replaces McNair this year & becomes a solid fantasy QB Could happen* T. Green gets back to fantasy respectability and leads the Fins to the playoffs, if the Fin o-line improves, yes* R. Bush touches the ball over 350 times and lands in the top 3, Not here, Duce is to much of a force on the ground* R. Droughns has more touches than B. Jacobs by year end, possible, neither are top 15 RB's* A. Green has a top 15 season in Houston, Nice sleeper pick this year could happenr* R. Moss regains elite status cracking the top 5 this year, Nope this guy is over the hill, will make the press with blow ups * P. Crayton ends up with more fantasy points than T. Glenn, only if Glenn gets hurt* G. Jennings catches 85 balls Sexy pick in FF this year, could happen.* V. Davis ends up the #1 fantasy TE this year, maybe #2, but Gates is too GOOD* T. Scheffler catches 7 TD's, nope disagree, see Cutler

 

[David Yudkin]

Willis Mcgahee is top 5 RB

Barring divine intervention, I have a hard time seeing how this is possible. Jamal Lewis rushed for over 2,000 yards and barely cracked the Top 5. BAL running backs COMBINED each year since then did not produce enough fantasy scoring to rank in the Top 5. So unless the Ravens are way more productive AND the other backs barely touch the ball, this one would be tough to reconcile mathematically. (I realize that anything is possible, but this one needs a lot of stars to align for it to happen.)But I like the going out on a limb factor. And I hope you're right, because I've owned McGahee every year since he came into the league.

 

[Couch Potato]

DYudkin and Couch..along these lines.. Is there an option on the subscription site that addresses strong convictions from the staff? In other words, I would be very interested to see basically an in depth version of this thread, but from the staff.

obviously all the staff does rankings from top to bottom, then theres news updates, spotlights and upside/downside etc.. Its all very valuable

im picturing an article that basically summarizes each staf members strongest conviction of the year, esp those against the norm

"ie if you take one thing away from my rankings, it would be to try to get Cedric Benson a round early because…" something like that

make sense? End of the workday so im rambling..

First, I gotta say this... your board name and avatar have cracked me up for a long time. While I don't think there's something exactly like you describe on the main site, a couple things do come to mind which give more insight into staff thinking on particular players.

1) The player faceoffs. I remember reading at one point a year or two ago that there is an effort to use staff members for each side's discussion of a player (upside/downside) who have the player ranked higher/lower than the staff consensus. They may not still select staff for the faceoffs this way, but I'll bet they do. So, the faceoffs give you an opinion and explanation from staff who feel more strongly than average, one in each direction (I don't know how they divide up the player spotlight write-ups, but I think that's more random and not based on how the staff has a player ranked).

http://footballguys.com/articles.htm

2) The Value Plays article has separate pages for QB, RB, WR, and TE for both undervalued and overvalued players (8 pages total). Players that staff members view as undervalued and overvalued compared to ADP are listed by number of staff members' votes, and each staff member does a little one paragraph write-up to explain his reasoning.

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2007/07valueintro.htm

 

[pizzatyme]

Here are a few of mine:

T.O will be the clear-cut #1 WR

T. Jones will be top 8 RB

Kitna is top 4 QB

SD Chargers hoist the Lombardy after one of the biggest blowout Superbowls ever.

 

[Sultans]

I see some props for Mcgahee . I also feel a huge year is in store for him. Change of teams and more importantly divisions make him a 2nd round steal.

MJD= Best Rookie from last year= One Fred Taylor injury away from top 5 overall finish.

Javon Walker is a top 5 receiver at worst.

Larry Johnson = Bust whether or not he shows up.

Portis gets hurt putting on one of his costumes, disappoints again and the Redskins of course stink.

DJ Hackett becomes #1 on Seattle scores 10 times.

Randy Moss sucks , doesn't get enough catches or looks for his liking and complains publicly while the Pats are 10-0.

 

[Sweetness_34]

Grossman will prove to be a very good QB in the NFL...expect top 10 FF #s from him with Garrett Wolfe, Greg Olsen and Devin Hester added to his arsenal of weapons.

Portis with a huge come back year, making him top 3 FF RB.

 

[Mr. Bill O'Reilly]

Tom Brady will come out of the closet. It will be revealed that his relationship with Giselle was just to get him into the modeling world.

In an even more shocking revelation it is revealed that Jeff Garcia is straight.