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Federal Agents Converge On Vick Property (1 Viewer)
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suchislife
Footballguy
That's just wrong....but still 
"I under threw him a bone"....classic.
"I under threw him a bone"....classic.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
But oh, so right.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
:X "If you lose like me you'll be a Chinese entree"And the Valtrex (herpes medicine) helicopter
Priceless
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Yenrub
Footballguy
This story is getting a lot of attention for a dog fighting case and the only reason why is because the main target/suspect is Vick.That being said maybe the Feds are in on this because of drugs.
If I recall they stumbled onto the dog fighting as a result of a drug related charge or search of Vick’s cousin.
3C's
Footballguy
Vick cancels camp appearance.
No real shock there. So he's cancelled his own camp and an appearance at another. Guess I won't have any use for the "Who let the dogs out?! sign now.
No real shock there. So he's cancelled his own camp and an appearance at another. Guess I won't have any use for the "Who let the dogs out?! sign now.
Falcons | Second review of evidence in Vick case delayed
Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:59:47 -0700
Updating an ongoing story, Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports investigators in Surry County have not begun their second review of the evidence in the case of illegal dog fighting at the former property of Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick, according to the office of the prosecutor. The first review occurred in April after the initial raid on the Virginia property.
Either they are trying everything they can to get him off(ha,ha,ha,) or he's deeply involved and their getting everything in order prior to making the big annoucement. My reasoning is if he is not involved in anyway shape or form they have had plenty of time to say so.
Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:59:47 -0700
Updating an ongoing story, Steve Wyche, of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, reports investigators in Surry County have not begun their second review of the evidence in the case of illegal dog fighting at the former property of Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick, according to the office of the prosecutor. The first review occurred in April after the initial raid on the Virginia property.
Either they are trying everything they can to get him off(ha,ha,ha,) or he's deeply involved and their getting everything in order prior to making the big annoucement. My reasoning is if he is not involved in anyway shape or form they have had plenty of time to say so.
cstu
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Are you sure that's not David Boston's dog?
chris1969
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Block
Footballguy
Scary thing is, I think this is a real picture.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Thanks for the link, just bumped his dad up in my rankings. Dog too.
cstu
Footballguy
2stix
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
And another
Says that Vick's house was ""main staging area for housing and training the pit bills involved" Says that Vick's name was not named, but it also doesn't say if anyone's name was mentioned. And I don't think these are charges, just findings. But the stakes just got a lot higher for Vick, officially, if he gets his name tacked to it. Takes a lot of money to finance an operation like this, and I doubt a cousin getting free rent has the moolah to provide it. And their finsdings show participation across state lines do it's definitely a federal case. Not looking good for Vick, even just having his name linked to the property. My guess is bye bye Mr Valtrex.
Says that Vick's house was ""main staging area for housing and training the pit bills involved" Says that Vick's name was not named, but it also doesn't say if anyone's name was mentioned. And I don't think these are charges, just findings. But the stakes just got a lot higher for Vick, officially, if he gets his name tacked to it. Takes a lot of money to finance an operation like this, and I doubt a cousin getting free rent has the moolah to provide it. And their finsdings show participation across state lines do it's definitely a federal case. Not looking good for Vick, even just having his name linked to the property. My guess is bye bye Mr Valtrex.
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Keith Lewis
Footballguy
I don't think you're following along...(KFFL) Updating an ongoing story, The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick was not named in court documents filed by federal authorities detailing an illegal dog fighting ring at Vick's property in Virginia. The documents state that the property had held dog fights sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" and brought participants from several states. People involved in the ring also transported, delivered and received dogs for fighting, according to the documents.
GAME OVER, VICK CLEARED
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Don't get so excited, these weren't charges, just details of the investigation. No one has been charged yet. If they were ready to file charges they wouldn't be on the grounds executing another search today. Try to keep up and read the whole article instead of a two sentence blurb.
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redman
Footballguy
Even if these were charges, that doesn't mean Vick is "cleared". It just means that they don't have enough evidence against him yet to convict him, in their opinion. Given the crazy way that celebrity justice seems to go, I'm sure they're holding themselves to an even higher standard in that regard. Vick doesn't appear to have been present much, which means that his involvement, if any, would be indirect, which would be a case that in theory would take longer to build anyway.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
As many have been saying all along, even if it was found to be 100% fact that dog fighting occurred on that property it doesn't make Vick guilty if he wasn't involved or knowledgeable about it..The Feds aren't even naming him in court papers, he's not even on their radar.
Finally Vick can move on from this witch hunt and focus on winning the MVP this season. I feel many owe the man an apology, but most people can't admit when they are wrong, so i won't be holding my breath.
Maybe an official apologize to Mike Vick thread could be stickied up top so people can man up and let everyone know they are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Nobody has been cleared or charged yet. The investigation is still going on. He is certainly no more cleared than he is found guilty. Those of you claiming his complete exoneration are as foolish as those claiming his clear and impending conviction. As with all pieces of news from this investigation, we haven't been given every detail, so to claim he's "not on their radar" is an uninformed opinion. Based on all the articles I've read today, NO ONE is on their radar, which we know isn't true. So sit back, relax, keep the flag waving to a minimum and just wait. Remember all the people that were claiming that since no charges were filed that they hadn't found anything in their search? All this is is another piece of the puzzle and until they officially end the investigation and charge someone, Vick is still in very real danger of being charged. When will you people get that through your heads? He very well may be innocent, but just like everything else we've been given so far, nothing is clear. Vick cannot move on until this is ended, and it is still far from over.
The Feds aren't even naming him in court papers, he's not even on their radar.
Finally Vick can move on from this witch hunt and focus on winning the MVP this season. I feel many owe the man an apology, but most people can't admit when they are wrong, so i won't be holding my breath.
Maybe an official apologize to Mike Vick thread could be stickied up top so people can man up and let everyone know they are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
redman
Footballguy
Link?
The Feds aren't even naming him in court papers, he's not even on their radar.
Finally Vick can move on from this witch hunt and focus on winning the MVP this season. I feel many owe the man an apology, but most people can't admit when they are wrong, so i won't be holding my breath.
Maybe an official apologize to Mike Vick thread could be stickied up top so people can man up and let everyone know they are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
(KFFL) Updating an ongoing story, The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick was not named in court documents filed by federal authorities detailing an illegal dog fighting ring at Vick's property in Virginia. The documents state that the property had held dog fights sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" and brought participants from several states. People involved in the ring also transported, delivered and received dogs for fighting, according to the documents.UPDATE, MR VICK IS INNOCENT ON ALL CHARGES, VICK HATERS LOSE ONCE AGAIN. Better luck next time, maybe he'll get caught jaywalking next week and a 14 page thread where people can vent their hate for him can start once again.Link?
The Feds aren't even naming him in court papers, he's not even on their radar.
Finally Vick can move on from this witch hunt and focus on winning the MVP this season. I feel many owe the man an apology, but most people can't admit when they are wrong, so i won't be holding my breath.
Maybe an official apologize to Mike Vick thread could be stickied up top so people can man up and let everyone know they are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
To the above poster who said that no one is on their radar at this point....court documents were filed, i may be crazy but i assume that there were names on those documents, and none of those names were MVP Vick.
LOCK THIS THREAD MODS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE ANYMORE. All this has been is a witch hunt with absolutely no basis in reality.
God bless you Mike Vick, please don't think everyone is out to get you.
Wow that is some stinky bait. Thanks for screwing up an important thread with your chum.(KFFL) Updating an ongoing story, The Associated Press reports Atlanta Falcons QB Michael Vick was not named in court documents filed by federal authorities detailing an illegal dog fighting ring at Vick's property in Virginia. The documents state that the property had held dog fights sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" and brought participants from several states. People involved in the ring also transported, delivered and received dogs for fighting, according to the documents.UPDATE, MR VICK IS INNOCENT ON ALL CHARGES, VICK HATERS LOSE ONCE AGAIN. Better luck next time, maybe he'll get caught jaywalking next week and a 14 page thread where people can vent their hate for him can start once again.Link?
The Feds aren't even naming him in court papers, he's not even on their radar.
Finally Vick can move on from this witch hunt and focus on winning the MVP this season. I feel many owe the man an apology, but most people can't admit when they are wrong, so i won't be holding my breath.
Maybe an official apologize to Mike Vick thread could be stickied up top so people can man up and let everyone know they are sorry for jumping to conclusions.
To the above poster who said that no one is on their radar at this point....court documents were filed, i may be crazy but i assume that there were names on those documents, and none of those names were MVP Vick.
LOCK THIS THREAD MODS, NOTHING TO SEE HERE ANYMORE. All this has been is a witch hunt with absolutely no basis in reality.
God bless you Mike Vick, please don't think everyone is out to get you.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Updated: July 6, 2007, 7:34 PM ET
SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.
Vick is not named in the documents.
Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said. The law enforcement authorities have privately told league and team officials that at least three people are expected to be indicted but the identities of those individuals were unknown. The documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the home that has been the center of the investigation. A source close to the investigation, and with knowledge of much of the evidence, told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli that the events of Friday were "very helpful in the overall and ongoing investigation into an alleged dogfighting ring at that property. ... Remember, this is an investigation into what has been considered an enterprise involving many people... From our standpoint, it never has focused on an individual and it still doesn't." The filing comes on a day when federal agents searched the wooded property Vick is currently selling in southeastern Virginia on Friday. Fifteen vehicles were on the property, including a rental truck and a Virginia State Police evidence collections truck.
According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said. Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dogfighting allegations. The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left. State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand. Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE." The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.
About 15 people could be seen on the property, which included kennels and outbuildings. One of the investigators told reporters assembled outside the property that the search would take a considerable amount of time. Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation. Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded. The results of that search have remained sealed. At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved. "What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?" A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along. "We are just pursuing parallel investigations." A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation. Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
Updated: July 6, 2007, 7:34 PM ET
SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.
Vick is not named in the documents.
Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said. The law enforcement authorities have privately told league and team officials that at least three people are expected to be indicted but the identities of those individuals were unknown. The documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the home that has been the center of the investigation. A source close to the investigation, and with knowledge of much of the evidence, told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli that the events of Friday were "very helpful in the overall and ongoing investigation into an alleged dogfighting ring at that property. ... Remember, this is an investigation into what has been considered an enterprise involving many people... From our standpoint, it never has focused on an individual and it still doesn't." The filing comes on a day when federal agents searched the wooded property Vick is currently selling in southeastern Virginia on Friday. Fifteen vehicles were on the property, including a rental truck and a Virginia State Police evidence collections truck.
According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said. Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dogfighting allegations. The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left. State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand. Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE." The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.
About 15 people could be seen on the property, which included kennels and outbuildings. One of the investigators told reporters assembled outside the property that the search would take a considerable amount of time. Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation. Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded. The results of that search have remained sealed. At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved. "What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?" A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along. "We are just pursuing parallel investigations." A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation. Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Now see, there is some good info that we can use to deliberate his involvement. From the very beginning this is the first piece of news that points to whether or not Vick has been involved. Now, unlikely still means he is not totally clear until they file the charges but it looks like Vick might have dodged a bullett. MVP though? Never.<h1 class="storyTitle">Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe</h1> ESPN.com news services
Updated: July 6, 2007, 7:34 PM ET
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Vick is not named in the documents.
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According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said. Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dogfighting allegations. The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left. State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand. Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE." The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.
About 15 people could be seen on the property, which included kennels and outbuildings. One of the investigators told reporters assembled outside the property that the search would take a considerable amount of time. Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation. Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded. The results of that search have remained sealed. At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved. "What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?" A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along. "We are just pursuing parallel investigations." A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation. Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.
Information from ESPN's Chris Mortensen, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli and The Associated Press was used in this report.
Main story on ESPN right now, this is over and done with, Vick is cleared.
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ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Updated: July 6, 2007, 7:34 PM ET
SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.
Vick is not named in the documents.
Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said. The law enforcement authorities have privately told league and team officials that at least three people are expected to be indicted but the identities of those individuals were unknown. The documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the home that has been the center of the investigation. A source close to the investigation, and with knowledge of much of the evidence, told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli that the events of Friday were "very helpful in the overall and ongoing investigation into an alleged dogfighting ring at that property. ... Remember, this is an investigation into what has been considered an enterprise involving many people... From our standpoint, it never has focused on an individual and it still doesn't." The filing comes on a day when federal agents searched the wooded property Vick is currently selling in southeastern Virginia on Friday. Fifteen vehicles were on the property, including a rental truck and a Virginia State Police evidence collections truck.
According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said. Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dogfighting allegations. The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left. State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand. Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE." The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.
About 15 people could be seen on the property, which included kennels and outbuildings. One of the investigators told reporters assembled outside the property that the search would take a considerable amount of time. Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation. Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded. The results of that search have remained sealed. At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved. "What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?" A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along. "We are just pursuing parallel investigations." A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation. Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Are you serious? Did you see the picture with the caption, "Mike Vick's Dog" (i thought it was funny, but still).If a post is against Vick or makes fun of him it is important, if not its chum.Bottom line is the man isn't being charged. Most presumed him guilty and were merciless towards him even though there was no evidence linking him to the dogfighting.
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Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Sure, I don't have any yet so you'll be the first.Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Updated: July 6, 2007, 7:34 PM ET
SURRY, Va. -- Federal authorities have filed court documents outlining an alleged dogfighting operation at a property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, The Associated Press reported Friday.
Vick is not named in the documents.
Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said. The law enforcement authorities have privately told league and team officials that at least three people are expected to be indicted but the identities of those individuals were unknown. The documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the home that has been the center of the investigation. A source close to the investigation, and with knowledge of much of the evidence, told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli that the events of Friday were "very helpful in the overall and ongoing investigation into an alleged dogfighting ring at that property. ... Remember, this is an investigation into what has been considered an enterprise involving many people... From our standpoint, it never has focused on an individual and it still doesn't." The filing comes on a day when federal agents searched the wooded property Vick is currently selling in southeastern Virginia on Friday. Fifteen vehicles were on the property, including a rental truck and a Virginia State Police evidence collections truck.
According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four animals were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture," according to the filings.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also would place bets on the fight.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said. Fights would end when one dog died or the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
Friday morning, a U.S. Department of Agriculture agent stationed at the gate on the southeastern Virginia property had no comment, ESPN's Kelly Naqi reported. The USDA is the federal agency with oversight over treatment of domestic animals and investigates dogfighting allegations. The authorities arrived sometime after 6 a.m. ET. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left. State and federal investigators concentrated their search looking for dog carcasses allegedly buried somewhere behind the property, according to Naqi. At 1:30 p.m. ET, a backhoe pulled onto the property and began to maneuver by some black outhouses, located behind the main house, and headed further into the woods. Those black houses are where local investigators had found the items listed in the court documents, including the blood-stained carpeting and rape stand. Portsmouth's WAVY-TV broadcast video of investigators working under a blue tarp on a portion of the property. They were sifting dirt collected in white buckets and clearing brush. Some wore T-shirts with the wording "POLICE." The property includes a metal gate at the entrance of the large white house and a fence around the perimeter, which obscured the work of investigators.
About 15 people could be seen on the property, which included kennels and outbuildings. One of the investigators told reporters assembled outside the property that the search would take a considerable amount of time. Corinne Geller, a spokesman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
On June 7, federal law enforcement officials descended on the property with a search warrant. More than a dozen vehicles went to the home early that day and investigators searched inside before turning their attention to the area where officials found dozens of dogs in late April and evidence that suggested the home was involved in a dogfighting operation. Surry County officials had secured a search warrant in late May based on an informant's information to look for as many as 30 dog carcasses buried on the property. The warrant never was executed because Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald G. Poindexter said he had issues with the way it was worded. The results of that search have remained sealed. At the time, Poindexter expressed surprise at why the federal government was involved. "What is foreign to me is the federal government getting into a dogfighting case," Poindexter said. "I know it's been done, but what's driving this? Is it this boy's celebrity? Would they have done this if it wasn't Michael Vick?" A day later, "They launched a separate, independent federal investigation," Poindexter said of the government, which has had a representative involved in the local probe all along. "We are just pursuing parallel investigations." A search warrant affidavit said some of the dogs were in individual kennels and about 30 were tethered with "heavy logging-type chains" buried in the ground. The chains allowed the dogs to get close to each other, but not to have contact, one of myriad findings on the property that suggested a dogfighting operation. Vick has claimed he rarely visits the home and was unaware it could be involved in a criminal enterprise. He also has blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. Vick's cousin, Davon Boddie, was living at the home at the time of the raids.
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Yes, it's very refreshing to see that a man who flips off fans and knowingly gives women herpes has the good character to shy away from dog fights.I agree though, good info. Although remember, "unlikely to be indicted" is still a half step away from totally cleared.Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Please stop with the assumptions. It was never proven Vick KNOWINGLY gave that woman herpes.He did get frustrated and flipped off fans who were being unruly. He was wrong in that instance, but it was hardly a big deal and I'm sure most people have flipped someone the bird at one time or another.Yes, it's very refreshing to see that a man who flips off fans and knowingly gives women herpes has the good character to shy away from dog fights.I agree though, good info. Although remember, "unlikely to be indicted" is still a half step away from totally cleared.Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
Either way the news of Vick being cleared of heinous charges like dog fighting should make everyone happy. Whether you like him or hate him i think everyone can agree they are happy he wasn't part of a crime like that.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
He knew he had it when he had unprotected sex with her.Please stop with the assumptions. It was never proven Vick KNOWINGLY gave that woman herpes.He did get frustrated and flipped off fans who were being unruly. He was wrong in that instance, but it was hardly a big deal and I'm sure most people have flipped someone the bird at one time or another.Yes, it's very refreshing to see that a man who flips off fans and knowingly gives women herpes has the good character to shy away from dog fights.I agree though, good info. Although remember, "unlikely to be indicted" is still a half step away from totally cleared.Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
Either way the news of Vick being cleared of heinous charges like dog fighting should make everyone happy. Whether you like him or hate him i think everyone can agree they are happy he wasn't part of a crime like that.
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phthalatemagic
Footballguy
I don't know why they'd be happy. The crime was still committed, just probably not by Vick.The news does look pretty good for Vick though!
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
That is what she said, doesn't necessarily mean that is what he told her.People with the herp aren't always contagious, so he might have thought he wasn't in spreading mode when in the heat of the moment. Regardless if he was 100% sure he had the herp it was negligent on his part. But he never admitted to knowingly giving her it.He knew he had it when he had unprotected sex with her.Please stop with the assumptions. It was never proven Vick KNOWINGLY gave that woman herpes.He did get frustrated and flipped off fans who were being unruly. He was wrong in that instance, but it was hardly a big deal and I'm sure most people have flipped someone the bird at one time or another.Yes, it's very refreshing to see that a man who flips off fans and knowingly gives women herpes has the good character to shy away from dog fights.I agree though, good info. Although remember, "unlikely to be indicted" is still a half step away from totally cleared.Nice info Keith. Good to hear Vick wasn't involved in the dogfighting, i had a feeling a guy with his character wouldn't slum to that level.You mind if i add you as a friend?Vick indictment seen unlikely in feds' dogfight probe
Looks like this is over and done with and 3 other people are getting charged but not Mike Vick.
Either way the news of Vick being cleared of heinous charges like dog fighting should make everyone happy. Whether you like him or hate him i think everyone can agree they are happy he wasn't part of a crime like that.
Either way this thread is about a crime he didn't commit, so let's stay on that topic.
Cheers.
Those should have been deleted. Some of us are using the news posted in this thread to adjust our valuations of Vick.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
I'm off the hook.
2stix
Footballguy
Nobody was named in todays complaint.
It was a filing of evidence.
No one is off the hook....settle down.
A Dogfighting operation WAS on the property, Those who denied this and said there was never any evidence...
and Goodell told Vick he would be responsible for what happened on his property so I think he is far from off the hook.
and Len Pasquarelli as a source is about as good as Bush's source for WMD's in Iraq.
It was a filing of evidence.
No one is off the hook....settle down.
A Dogfighting operation WAS on the property, Those who denied this and said there was never any evidence...
and Goodell told Vick he would be responsible for what happened on his property so I think he is far from off the hook.
and Len Pasquarelli as a source is about as good as Bush's source for WMD's in Iraq.
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Dude was RENTING OUT his house, not living in it.Dude wasn't there during the dog fighting.Dude wasn't aware of the dog fighting.Dude loves doggies.
ThereforeDude is off the hookThis story is finished.
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fatness
Footballguy
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burd
Footballguy
are you people serious in the "if Vick knew what was going on a his property" talk?
Yeah, it's common for multimillionaires to get duped ... I just sold Trump a squirrel hair toupee.
Vick must be pretty dumb if he never noticed a bunch of black houses and 50+ dogs on his property ... oh yeah, he was hardly ever there. That's convenient.
Let's see .... Vick has been saying for years that he's really into dog breeding. Too bad his cuz never told Vick about the dog operation since Vick is so into dog breeding. I'm sure he would've really loved to have been involved in the process since he's so into breeding
And informants saying for years that Vick is a big fish in the illegal dog fighting world ...more coincidence. They just randomly chose to pick on Vick.
This one is my fav ..... the dog kennel running the operation is "Bad Newz Kennels". On Vick's website, his hometown is listed as "Newport News, VA .. aka Bad Newz". WOW ... what are the odds?
hey whatever .... Vick is going to walk. But please don't try selling him as the "victim"
Yeah, it's common for multimillionaires to get duped ... I just sold Trump a squirrel hair toupee.
Vick must be pretty dumb if he never noticed a bunch of black houses and 50+ dogs on his property ... oh yeah, he was hardly ever there. That's convenient.
Let's see .... Vick has been saying for years that he's really into dog breeding. Too bad his cuz never told Vick about the dog operation since Vick is so into dog breeding. I'm sure he would've really loved to have been involved in the process since he's so into breeding
And informants saying for years that Vick is a big fish in the illegal dog fighting world ...more coincidence. They just randomly chose to pick on Vick.
This one is my fav ..... the dog kennel running the operation is "Bad Newz Kennels". On Vick's website, his hometown is listed as "Newport News, VA .. aka Bad Newz". WOW ... what are the odds?
hey whatever .... Vick is going to walk. But please don't try selling him as the "victim"
omally
Footballguy
Very
If Vick doesn't get indicted, it is only because they don't have enough evidence against him. This huge dog fighting operation has been going on at his property for the last 5 years people.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
You obviously didn't read the whole thread, this is a piece from a long ESPN article that I posted a couple of hours ago:Additionally, Vick is unlikely to be indicted in the dogfighting federal investigation, according to information gathered by the NFL and Atlanta Falcons, sources tell ESPN's Chris Mortensen. The authorities have told the Falcons and league that there has not been any evidence that can be tied to Vick with the alleged dogfighting ring, the sources said. The law enforcement authorities have privately told league and team officials that at least three people are expected to be indicted but the identities of those individuals were unknown.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
Maybe the reason he won't get indicted is because he wasn't involved at all? Pretty funny even if he ends up being cleared you'll still presume guilt...... The American Way!VeryIf Vick doesn't get indicted, it is only because they don't have enough evidence against him. This huge dog fighting operation has been going on at his property for the last 5 years people.
burd
Footballguy
wow ... so you need to actually see the fire huh? Smoke billowing out the windows and doors isn't good enough for you.Maybe the reason he won't get indicted is because he wasn't involved at all? Pretty funny even if he ends up being cleared you'll still presume guilt...... The American Way!Very
2stix
Footballguy
You obviously didn't read the whole sentence,no one was named today in the filing of evidence.No one is ever named during the filing of evidence.
Keith Lewis
Footballguy
I'm going to help you out and I'll break it down for you, "Three people are going to be indicted, Michael Vick is not one of these people". I hope that is clear enough.
Actual documents filed:
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/ajc/pdf/vick/show_case_doc(2).pdf
What's all the hype about again? More 'unnamed sources'?
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/ajc/pdf/vick/show_case_doc(2).pdf
What's all the hype about again? More 'unnamed sources'?
