FFA Movie Poll - 1989 It's snail paced Countdown Monday!! (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

Hmm.  Page 4 bump.  

There was a lot fewer movies this year that I felt I needed to watch or rewatch.I had seen so many films from 89. I think my list is just about set to be sent in. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

Rwatched The Killer this weekend. It didn't hold up as well as I had hoped. It's been aped by every freaking 90s action movie to the point where it seems like a parody of itself. It is surprisng sometimes what will last what and what won't. 

I watched this one and a couple others over the weekend - Kiki's Delivery and Jacknife.  I thought it was good, but I get what you are saying.  

I think I am done with my 89 pile officially.  Most of the new one's I watched I really enjoyed, but not enough to squeak into the points for me.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

There was a lot fewer movies this year that I felt I needed to watch or rewatch.I had seen so many films from 89. I think my list is just about set to be sent in. 

I get it, and my trying to stay ahead is part of the problem.  I am working on 1992 movies, don't want to clog this thread up with talk of that, and then I am basically done by the time that thread will be fired up.   I haven't been coming in as much and talking.  I think I need to slow that down a tad a catch up on a TV show or a couple new movies (I actually did watch Phantom Thread last night).  Not good when the commish isn't participating in the talk.  

Right now my '92 pile is pretty big.  I have Belle Epoque, Malcolm X, Last of the Mohicans, Romper Stomper, Bad Lieutenant, A League of Their Own, Unforgiven, The Player, and Glengarry in my watch/re-watch pile by the TV.   I re-watched Scent of a Woman the other day and was disappointed in how that one held up.  I forgot PSH was in it and it has a couple great scenes, but overall it's a tad cheesy especially the "trial" at the end.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

Looks like with my list we have 12 total right now. 

 

[Ilov80s]

I get it, and my trying to stay ahead is part of the problem.  I am working on 1992 movies, don't want to clog this thread up with talk of that, and then I am basically done by the time that thread will be fired up.   I haven't been coming in as much and talking.  I think I need to slow that down a tad a catch up on a TV show or a couple new movies (I actually did watch Phantom Thread last night).  Not good when the commish isn't participating in the talk.  

Right now my '92 pile is pretty big.  I have Belle Epoque, Malcolm X, Last of the Mohicans, Romper Stomper, Bad Lieutenant, A League of Their Own, Unforgiven, The Player, and Glengarry in my watch/re-watch pile by the TV.   I re-watched Scent of a Woman the other day and was disappointed in how that one held up.  I forgot PSH was in it and it has a couple great scenes, but overall it's a tad cheesy especially the "trial" at the end.  

I really love Scent of a Woman-so much that I don't even need to rewatch it...if that makes sense.

 

[Ilov80s]

Looks like with my list we have 12 total right now. 

How much were the previous years? I would have thought 89 would get a lot but there is likely some fatigue

 

[El Floppo]

Looks like with my list we have 12 total right now. 

I'll be sending one in fo sho.

And I hated scent of a HOOHAH

 

[KarmaPolice]

How much were the previous years? I would have thought 89 would get a lot but there is likely some fatigue

The last couple have been 22-23 I believe.  First one we had 30+.  Not a biggie, I assume we will get to 20+, but thought this year would be more popular with the masses, so the nervous Nellie in me does wonder if we are fatiguing on these so quickly.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

I really love Scent of a Woman-so much that I don't even need to rewatch it...if that makes sense.

I thought so too, but it had been years since I have seen in and was disappointed that it didn't live up to the memory.  So much so that it is a borderline movie for my list now.  

I guess that is the good and bad with doing these - you find some new gems but you get a fresh look at stuff that might take a hit.  

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I thought so too, but it had been years since I have seen in and was disappointed that it didn't live up to the memory.  So much so that it is a borderline movie for my list now.  

I guess that is the good and bad with doing these - you find some new gems but you get a fresh look at stuff that might take a hit.  

Is that always fair though?  Part of the allure of movies is their timelessness, true.  And in that you want to love a movie that you can watch now, 5 years from now and 10 years from now and still love it.  And we have had plenty of movies like that. 

But is it fair to make that a specific attack if they don't?  Meaning - it's definitely a positive and if a movie can do that it should get bonus points.  But if a movie doesn't do that, should it lose points, or simply not get any extra?

I basically ask within the context of period pieces.  80's movies are a specific genre.  We know full well what we mean by that phrase, and if someone says name 5 80's movies, everyone that has any sense of movies can do that within a certain context.  And that is because those movies spoke for that decade with the voice of that decade.  Of course a lot of them don't hold up.  Why would they?  Some will, sure.  But if it was a movie with 80's characters, using 80's slang, in an 80's setting, then yeah 30 years later, the same comments, scenes and stories just might not have the same force that they once did.  I don't think that that would automatically dock them points though.

 

[Gr00vus]

Is that always fair though?  Part of the allure of movies is their timelessness, true.  And in that you want to love a movie that you can watch now, 5 years from now and 10 years from now and still love it.  And we have had plenty of movies like that. 

But is it fair to make that a specific attack if they don't?  Meaning - it's definitely a positive and if a movie can do that it should get bonus points.  But if a movie doesn't do that, should it lose points, or simply not get any extra?

I basically ask within the context of period pieces.  80's movies are a specific genre.  We know full well what we mean by that phrase, and if someone says name 5 80's movies, everyone that has any sense of movies can do that within a certain context.  And that is because those movies spoke for that decade with the voice of that decade.  Of course a lot of them don't hold up.  Why would they?  Some will, sure.  But if it was a movie with 80's characters, using 80's slang, in an 80's setting, then yeah 30 years later, the same comments, scenes and stories just might not have the same force that they once did.  I don't think that that would automatically dock them points though.

You're really.....bringing me over, man.

 

[TripItUp]

Put me in the "Scent of a Woman" is overrated camp...a lot of critical appeal at a time when every critic was kissing Pacino's ###.

 

[Ilov80s]

Put me in the "Scent of a Woman" is overrated camp...a lot of critical appeal at a time when every critic was kissing Pacino's ###.

And it was kind of the his make-up Oscar for having been passed over so many times before. It's not a great film and it is a very 90s movie for sure, but Pacino is so good that it elevates the movie. It is a really enjotable film. 

 

[Ilov80s]

Is that always fair though?  Part of the allure of movies is their timelessness, true.  And in that you want to love a movie that you can watch now, 5 years from now and 10 years from now and still love it.  And we have had plenty of movies like that. 

But is it fair to make that a specific attack if they don't?  Meaning - it's definitely a positive and if a movie can do that it should get bonus points.  But if a movie doesn't do that, should it lose points, or simply not get any extra?

I basically ask within the context of period pieces.  80's movies are a specific genre.  We know full well what we mean by that phrase, and if someone says name 5 80's movies, everyone that has any sense of movies can do that within a certain context.  And that is because those movies spoke for that decade with the voice of that decade.  Of course a lot of them don't hold up.  Why would they?  Some will, sure.  But if it was a movie with 80's characters, using 80's slang, in an 80's setting, then yeah 30 years later, the same comments, scenes and stories just might not have the same force that they once did.  I don't think that that would automatically dock them points though.

Good points. In how I am rating the movies, I have the top films reserved for "all time classics" and I think to be in that category a movie has to hold up to multiple viewings over decades and hopefully over generations of audiences. A movie can still be very good if it is "trapped in it's time". And I think it is a great point about most movies being a sort of period pieces. 80s movies have certain themes, music,etc. that are similar. Movies of the 30,s 40s, 50s and so on are all linked by certain key characteristics. 

 

[Binky The Doormat]

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation  28

Batman  18

Indiana Jones & the Last Crusader  18

Major League  14

Ghostbusters II  12

Sex, Lies & Videotape  12

Back to the Future Part II  11

Crimes & Misdemeanors  11

Field of Dreams  11

Dead Poet's Society  9

Heathers  9

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure  8

Bill Hicks: Sane Man  8

Uncle Buck  6

Tucker & Dale vs. Evil  6

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier  6

Road House  4

Drugstore Cowboy  4

Roger & Me  3

Honey, I Shrunk the Kids  2

 

[wikkidpissah]

Spoiler

1. Sex, Lies and Videotape, 30 pts (wikkidee scale: 24)

2. When Harry Met Sally, 30 pts (wikkidee scale: 23)

3. Henry V, 30 pts (wikkidee scale: 20)

4. Uncle Buck, 14 pts 

5. Jacknife, 13 points

6. Dead Poets Society 12 points

7. My Left Foot, 11 points

8. Let It Ride, 7 points

9. Driving Miss Daisy, 7 pts

10. Field of Dreams, 6 pts

11. Glory, 6 pts

12. Jesus of Montreal, 4 pts

13. Do the Right Thing 4 pts

14. Valmont, 3 pts

15. Drugstore Cowboy, 3 pts

16. Roger & Me, 3 pts

17. Life and Nothing But 2 pts

18. Batman, 2 pt

18. Major League, 2 pt

20. Indiana Jones & the Gigantic Bucket of Money, 1 pt

 

[KarmaPolice]

Is that always fair though?  Part of the allure of movies is their timelessness, true.  And in that you want to love a movie that you can watch now, 5 years from now and 10 years from now and still love it.  And we have had plenty of movies like that. 

But is it fair to make that a specific attack if they don't?  Meaning - it's definitely a positive and if a movie can do that it should get bonus points.  But if a movie doesn't do that, should it lose points, or simply not get any extra?

I basically ask within the context of period pieces.  80's movies are a specific genre.  We know full well what we mean by that phrase, and if someone says name 5 80's movies, everyone that has any sense of movies can do that within a certain context.  And that is because those movies spoke for that decade with the voice of that decade.  Of course a lot of them don't hold up.  Why would they?  Some will, sure.  But if it was a movie with 80's characters, using 80's slang, in an 80's setting, then yeah 30 years later, the same comments, scenes and stories just might not have the same force that they once did.  I don't think that that would automatically dock them points though.

Most of the lists I am narrowing down to 15 or less movies, and I am treating this as a desert island list so I would only want movies on my list that I will be re-watching a bit.  So yeah, if I don't think a movies holds up for me now, I am leaving it off the list that I am making in context of me taking these movies today.   Overall, these movies aren't taking a hit on a rating scale, just for the purpose of these drafts.  Ie - Scent of a Woman maybe went from an 8/10 on my scale to a 7/10 or so.  I am not saying it's suddenly a 4/10 just because I thought it dragged in places or didn't hold up as well.   

Also, I think there is a big difference between the best "80s" movies, and the best movies of the 80s.   

If you were to ask me what the best movies of the 80s are, I would probably start with stuff like Raging Bull, Full Metal Jacket,  Blue Velvet, , etc..    Now if you were to ask me what the best "80s" movies are I would probably be talking Karate Kid, Back to the Future, Sixteen Candles, Fast Times, stuff like that.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation  28

Batman  18

Indiana Jones & the Last Crusader  18

Major League  14

Ghostbusters II  12

Sex, Lies & Videotape  12

Back to the Future Part II  11

Crimes & Misdemeanors  11

Field of Dreams  11

Dead Poet's Society  9

Heathers  9

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure  8

Bill Hicks: Sane Man  8

Uncle Buck  6

Tucker & Dale vs. Evil  6

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier  6

Road House  4

Drugstore Cowboy  4

Roger & Me  3

Honey, I Shrunk the Kids  2

 

[KarmaPolice]

Spoiler

1. Sex, Lies and Videotape, 30 pts (wikkidee scale: 24)

2. When Harry Met Sally, 30 pts (wikkidee scale: 23)

3. Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down, 25 pts (wikkidee scale: 21)

4. Henry V, 25 pts (wikkidee scale: 20)

5. Uncle Buck, 14 pts 

6. Jacknife, 13 points

7. Dead Poets Society 12 points

8. My Left Foot, 11 points

9. Let It Ride, 6 points

10. Driving Miss Daisy, 6 pts

11. Field of Dreams, 5 pts

12. Glory, 5 pts

13. Jesus of Montreal, 3 pts

14. Valmont, 3 pts

15. Do the Right Thing, 3 pts

16. Drugstore Cowboy, 3 pts

17. Roger & Me, 2 pts

18. Batman, 2 pt

19. Major League, 1 pt

20. Indiana Jones & the Bucket of Money, 1 pt

Wikipedia has Tie Me Up! as a 1990 movie, @wikkidpissah

 

[wikkidpissah]

Wikipedia has Tie Me Up! as a 1990 movie, @wikkidpissah

imdb has it '89

 

[KarmaPolice]

imdb has it '89

Earlier in the thread we posted that wiki seemed to be my tie-breaker between it and imdb since it usually posts the release twice - once in the opening sentence, and then in the rectangle on the right, so this is where we probably should be looking first.  

 

[wikkidpissah]

k - fixed

 

[Todem]

Or Star Trek V? Pure garbage. The worst one in the original crew flicks.....by a country mile.

 

[Ilov80s]

I rewatcehd Glory last night. What does everyone think of Broderick in that role? I had a hard time taking him serious.

 

[Don Quixote]

I rewatcehd Glory last night. What does everyone think of Broderick in that role? I had a hard time taking him serious.

I thought Broderick was a good fit for the role.  The real-life Shaw was pretty green himself; he died at 25.  So, I don't think an actor with more gravitas would have been true to the history.

 

[wikkidpissah]

I rewatcehd Glory last night. What does everyone think of Broderick in that role? I had a hard time taking him serious.

MB's thoroughly unconvincing performance (poor casting, really) and the heightened nobility so common (and unnecessary) to both war & black-struggle pictures gave me trouble, but the other performances and the subject matter rescued it from falling out of my 20.

 

[Ilov80s]

I thought Broderick was a good fit for the role.  The real-life Shaw was pretty green himself; he died at 25.  So, I don't think an actor with more gravitas would have been true to the history.

Being young and green was fine, I just couldn't buy him in the role. Maybe it's something about the indelibility of his Ferris performance but I can't ever see MB as anything but a bit of a smart ### who doesn't take anything all that serious.

 

[Ilov80s]

MB's thoroughly unconvincing performance (poor casting, really) and the heightened nobility so common (and unnecessary) to both war & black-struggle pictures gave me trouble, but the other performances and the subject matter rescued it from falling out of my 20.

I have the same exact thoughts. MB was miscast and I wasn't really sure what to think of how they portrayed the black soldiers. At times it felt really on point but at other times it felt really contrived. 

 

[TripItUp]

Broderick was definitely not the right guy for that role.

That being said, did MB make the film more money than the alternatives?  In the end, that's all that most of Hollywood cares about unfortunately.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Broderick was definitely not the righty guys for that role.

That being said, did MB make the film more money than the alternatives?  In the end, that's all that most of Hollywood cares about unfortunately.

And, i dont know if it's the case here, but a lot of flix dont get made, esp w unusual stories, unless someone bankable fronts em. So that's a net plus if he did that, tho Ferris on horseback didnt work for me

 

[El Floppo]

Is that always fair though?  Part of the allure of movies is their timelessness, true.  And in that you want to love a movie that you can watch now, 5 years from now and 10 years from now and still love it.  And we have had plenty of movies like that. 

But is it fair to make that a specific attack if they don't?  Meaning - it's definitely a positive and if a movie can do that it should get bonus points.  But if a movie doesn't do that, should it lose points, or simply not get any extra?

I basically ask within the context of period pieces.  80's movies are a specific genre.  We know full well what we mean by that phrase, and if someone says name 5 80's movies, everyone that has any sense of movies can do that within a certain context.  And that is because those movies spoke for that decade with the voice of that decade.  Of course a lot of them don't hold up.  Why would they?  Some will, sure.  But if it was a movie with 80's characters, using 80's slang, in an 80's setting, then yeah 30 years later, the same comments, scenes and stories just might not have the same force that they once did.  I don't think that that would automatically dock them points though.

Tbh, I hated scent in the theater...didn't need time to make it stink.

 

[Ilov80s]

And, i dont know if it's the case here, but a lot of flix dont get made, esp w unusual stories, unless someone bankable fronts em. So that's a net plus if he did that, tho Ferris on horseback didnt work for me

Good point. Heston is the only reason Touch of Evil got made and Welles got to direct it. Ricardo Montalban would have been a much better lead as a Mexican police officer but Heston and is deep tan were what it took to get the film made. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

Tbh, I hated scent in the theater...didn't need time to make it stink.

Was Uranus in the theater?

 

[Brony]

Never saw Tony Danza's She's Out of Control.  From casting alone, this might have the chance to outstink the list of turds from 1989. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

I rewatcehd Glory last night. What does everyone think of Broderick in that role? I had a hard time taking him serious.

I thought the movie was very good, but Broderick and Elwes were the reason it kept it from great status for me.   Those two stick out even more because of the great acting and roles for Freeman and Denzel.  I get DQ's point about needing them to be young and green to be true to the story, but both just felt out of place for me. 

 

[Ilov80s]

I thought the movie was very good, but Broderick and Elwes were the reason it kept it from great status for me.   Those two stick out even more because of the great acting and roles for Freeman and Denzel.  I get DQ's point about needing them to be young and green to be true to the story, but both just felt out of place for me. 

Agreed. Actors can be young/green and give good convinceing performances. I didn't get that from MB. 

 

[Don Quixote]

Being young and green was fine, I just couldn't buy him in the role. Maybe it's something about the indelibility of his Ferris performance but I can't ever see MB as anything but a bit of a smart ### who doesn't take anything all that serious.

That's fair.  I saw Glory before I saw Ferris (my Civil War obsession started at a young age), which may be why I'm coming from a different perspective.

 

[shuke]

I thought Broderick was great in Glory.  Cary Elwes on the other hand...

 

[KarmaPolice]

Last day to get lists in bump.  Finally starting on the math, and it looks like I have 16 lists or so?

 

[TripItUp]

List With Points

Spoiler

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 30 

When Harry met Sally 30

Xmas Vacation 24

Batman 24

Back to the Future II 3

Steel Magnolias 15

Parenthood 14

Lean on Me 10

Dead Poets Society 12

Born on the Fourth of July 8

Major League 13

Roadhouse 24

The Abyss 16

Ghostbusters II 11

Drugstore Cowboy 10

Always 7

Glory 14

Chances Are 2

My Left Foot 7

Say Anything 2

Uncle Buck 2

War of the Roses 2

Henry the 5th 5

Next of Kin 2 

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure 8

 

[Ilov80s]

List PM'd

Spoiler

20 (classics)  

Field of Dreams

Do the Right Thing

When Harry Met Sally

15 (great)    

Christmas Vacation

Dead Poets Society

Crimes and Misdemeanors

12 (very good)   

Major League

Glory

Say Anything

Driving Miss Daisy

My Left Foot

7 (good)   

Uncle Buck

Parenthood

The Killer 

Batman

Born on the 4th of July

 

[The Dreaded Marco]

Spoiler

25

Dead Poet's Society

Field of Dreams

When Harry Met Sally

20

The Fabulous Baker Boys

Do the Right Thing

15

Dead Calm

Say Anything

My Left Foot

10

Christmas Vacation

Uncle Buck

Crimes & Misdemeanors

Roger & Me

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Spoiler

1    Eddie and the Cruisers II: Eddie Lives!    29
2    Ghostbuster 2    29
3    road house    29
4    major league    29
5    field of dreams    29
6    Back to the Future Part II    29
7    see no evil hear no evil    5
8    tango and cash    5
9    bill and ted    5
10    A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child    1
11    the wizard    1
12    dream team    1
13    turner and hootch    1
14    karate kid 3    1
15    wicked stepmother    1
16    christmas vacation    1
17    Teen Witch    1
18    little mermaid    1
19    milo and otis    1
20    friday the 13th manhatten    1

 

[KarmaPolice]

Spoiler

1    Eddie and the Cruisers II: Eddie Lives!    29
2    Ghostbuster 2    29
3    road house    29
4    major league    29
5    field of dreams    29
6    Back to the Future Part II    29
7    see no evil hear no evil    5
8    tango and cash    5
9    bill and ted    5
10    A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child    1
11    the wizard    1
12    dream team    1
13    turner and hootch    1
14    karate kid 3    1
15    wicked stepmother    1
16    christmas vacation    1
17    Teen Witch    1
18    little mermaid    1
19    milo and otis    1
20    friday the 13th manhatten    1

You've got some odd shtick going on here.  

 

[El Floppo]

I'll be adding a list tonight

 

[KarmaPolice]

I'll be adding a list tonight

<_<

 

[Hov34]

PMd list

Spoiler

Field of Dreams  30

Major League  30

Say Anything  25

Uncle Buck  25

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade  15

When Harry met Sally  10

Christmas Vacation  10

Batman  10

Roadhouse  10

Dead Poets Society  5

Lethal Weapon 2  5

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure   5

Parenthood  5

The Little Mermaid  5

Tango & Cash  2

Honey, I shrunk the Kids  2

Back to the Future II   2

The Abyss  2

Dead Calm  1

War of the Roses  1

 

[KarmaPolice]

J/K .  

Almost done with the math on the lists I have, but I haven't done mine yet either, so any last minute lists are welcome.  Looks like we will get a little over 20 lists again.  

 

[KarmaPolice]

If I remember last poll correctly, this one is a little more top-heavy.  There are 7 movies in the 200s, and 7 more in the 100s.  

 

[El Floppo]

1. How to Get Ahead in Advertising 30
   
2. dekalog 30
   
3. Crimes and Misdemeanors 25
   
4. Jesus of Montreal 20
   
5. Roger & Me 15
   
6. The Big Picture 10
   
7. When Harry Met Sally... 10
   
8. Vampire's Kiss 10
   
9. My Left Foot 8
   
10. Say Anything... 8
    
11. Field of Dreams 7
    
12. Do the Right Thing 5
    
13. Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure 5
    
14. Sex, Lies, and Videotape 5
    
15. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover 3
    
16. Glory 3
    
17. Henry V, 3
    
18. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids 2
    
19. Last Exit to Brooklyn 1