Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
One of my favorites, this should have been much higher
That lawnmower scene is a thing of beauty
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FFA Top 200 Horror Movies of All Time: #93 - The Hitcher (18 Viewers)
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One of my favorites, this should have been much higher
That lawnmower scene is a thing of beauty
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Also might be the grossest movie I’ve ever seen
Scoresman
Footballguy
It got pushed down by all the Die Hards and John Wick movies coming up.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Thinking about that scene of the mom pulling the dogs tail out of her mouth makes me want to vomit 
The Gator
Footballguy
SPOILERS????Thinking about that scene of the mom pulling the dogs tail out of her mouth makes me want to vomit
WVU Alum
Footballguy
This one was bonkers.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
I saw this one before I saw the 80's remake. I loved this movie as a kid. I really like the 80's version too.
Keith R
The Don
Interesting perspective. Is that to say that what happened in the final five or so minutes changes the categorization of the movie?
WVU Alum
Footballguy
I have a lot of trouble suspending disbelief because every trap was set up in just a few hours, and some of them are complex. That is just a little nitpick. This one and the two sequels are pretty fun.
Me again and yes, the pinnacle of gore for me when I was young. Still love this one today, gets wilder as it plays out.
Scoresman
Footballguy
It's not the only thing going on that makes it horror IMO. For me it's the extreme graphic nature of the crime scenes that puts it over the edge as well as the surreal feeling of hopelessness and dread that is constant throughout the movie.
Exactly. I couldn't have said it better myself. The entire feel of the movie is horrific. The lighting, the hopelessness, the incredibly horrific crime scenes.......all of it adds up for me.
100% agree as my ranking will show
Scoresman
Footballguy
#167 - Carnival of Souls
Mary Henry ends up the sole survivor of a fatal car accident through mysterious circumstances. Trying to put the incident behind her, she moves to Utah and takes a job as a church organist. But her fresh start is interrupted by visions of a fiendish man. As the visions begin to occur more frequently, Mary finds herself drawn to the deserted carnival on the outskirts of town. The strangely alluring carnival may hold the secret to her tragic past.Herk Harvey
1962
Psychological, B/W
USA
IMDB: 72
Metacritic: NA
RottenTomatoes: 84
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfOJ4ZKP3Y
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/corridors-of-evil
Voter Ranks
ilov80s 35
jamny 54
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Glad I'm not the only one.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
The cinematography of this film is outstanding, and Candace Hilligoss is one gorgeous creature.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I get that, and agree the story is focus on him. Well, and his partner while they do their dectective work and mop up after the killer.I feel like the tone and atmosphere of Se7en exudes horror and that's one of your criteria.But that's only a part of it, as I posted. As I read your post Zodiac popped into my mind. We wouldn't have had to see the violence, but if it had scenes like Zodiac or Silence where we are there with the people as the killer is stalking them, it would have crossed that line. To me a big part with Se7en is that we are with the detectives, coming in after the murders - it's very much their story.Disagree about Se7en. If the violence had been onscreen, it would've received an NC17 rating. The images of the aftermath are some of the most horrific in cinema and were enough. I think that qualifies. Also, I don't know what city it was set in, but they depicted it as a bleak and almost hopeless setting, making things even more horrific.Time for the stoner ramble on my thoughts of some movies brought up. I was talking to somebody at work, and posted something similar to somebody via PM as well. IMO, the start of the "horror or not horror" conversation would start something like:
1. Is the violence/horror on screen or off?
2. Is the story about the people the horror is happening to, and are we with them in the movie?
3. What is the tone and atmosphere of the movie?
There are other things, but to me that starts to get at the core of what I am talking about. Thoughts on the movies talked about by name:
The Terminator: Watched it last night and I think it was the least horror of the examples. I forget how much time we are with Reese, how many times we are in the future, how many scenes are with the cops, how many car chases there are, etc.. I get what people are saying - there are definitely some jump scares and some shots look out of a horror movie - for example, the scene where Slider and Sarah's roommate get it. To me this is firmly sci-fi with scenes of horror. I imagine we will have a highly ranked example of a horror movie in a sci-fi setting on the countdown.
Se7en: I posted before this thing that I thought neither this or silence was horror. I am sticking with that for this one. Looking above, why I think it's not horror is we are largely following the detectives after the fact, the violence is off screen, and before the end the main scene with the killer was an action foot chase vs. a horror scene. Yes, it's a dark movie and has some horrific scenes and probably one of the best jump scares I've had in the theater (I heard on a pod that Sloth was a surprise to the actors too). That's why I posted earlier that it's as close to a horror a detective flick can get to a horror without being one. To me the mirror of Se7en would be something like Kill List. That felt like a horror movie shot in the style of a detective movie. Or...
Silence of the Lambs - Why I came around on Silence is again because of thinking of the above 3 things. First, I underestimate how gnarly the atmosphere and settings are. Mental institution, self storage rental, Bill's house and basement. We are also there for the abduction, Hannibal escape, in the house with Clarise at the end, etc.. We are there for the horror and with the people the horror is happening to -so much so that Demme has Hannibal staring straight into the camera at us.
And you could argue that Brad Pitt is the victim of horror in it and it's very much his story.
Let's be clear, I am nitpicking and just attempting to put my thoughts down. As I said, IMO it's as close as a thriller/detective movie gets to a horror without being one. Like you said, it meets part of my 3 criteria, but not all of them. Especially when I can think of movies similar that I feel are for sure horror like Kill List and now Silence of the Lambs. Mostly just fun banter and enjoying the movie talk and making me think about crap.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Knew 80s would have this
jamny
Footballguy
So much atmosphere in this one, I can only imagine seeing it at the time. Still holds up as being very creepy and trippy.
I figured I'd wait to mention this, but a few years ago I put together a youtube page called 10 Minute Classics, where I took horror movies that are in the public domain and edited them down to a digestible 10 minutes. Not easy to do! I've been meaning to get back to it but haven't had the time.
Here's Carnival of Souls in 10 minutes
The Gator
Footballguy
Ditto
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
:subscribed:
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Frostillicus
Footballguy
This is another one I watched because of that list I found. Dang glad I did. I holds up pretty well.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
To me this can definitely make a movie a horror movie, although I did leave Se7en and some other borderline entries off my list.
Scoresman
Footballguy
#166 - The Curse of Frankenstein
Baron Victor Frankenstein has discovered life's secret and unleashed a blood-curdling chain of events resulting from his creation: a cursed creature with a horrid face — and a tendency to kill.Terence Fisher
1957
Monster
United Kingdom
IMDB: 72
Metacritic: NA
RottenTomatoes: 80
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxNVNGydx5U
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-curse-of-frankenstein
Voter Ranks
ilov80s 35
jamny 54
Scoresman
Footballguy
#165 - Young Frankenstein
An American grandson of the infamous scientist, struggling to prove that his grandfather was not as insane as people believe, is invited to Transylvania, where he discovers the process that reanimates a dead body.Mel Brooks
1975
Comedy, Monster
USA
IMDB: 80
Metacritic: 80
RottenTomatoes: 93
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO8g8VmFf0M
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/young-frankenstein
Voter Ranks
Keith R 42
UncleZen 47
Scoresman
Footballguy
I regret leaving this off because I think this should be higher. Went back and forth so many times.
I have never even heard of it......let alone seen it.
I don't get this as a horror movie at all. There is no scare or horror to it at all.
Scoresman
Footballguy
IT'S FRANKENSTEIN
Keith R
The Don
Looks like this is a must watch. Seems right in my wheelhouse
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Marty Feldman eyes scare the **** outta me.
Keith R
The Don
I'd love to see this, but I probably better watch it in its entirety once first
Keith R
The Don
The appropriately pronounced "EYE-gor"
Keith R
The Don
Frankenstein. Whose monster is a zombie by definition. In a movie filmed in a manner identical to the 1930's Frankenstein series. That makes it horror for me, even if it's not very scary.
Now go ahead and criticize me for calling Young Frankenstein horror but not Se7en.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I had bought the criterion DVD back in the day. I remember being underwhelmed. It’s got a good score and cinematography or whatever you call it though
Scoresman
Footballguy
I actually think it's a superior Frankenstein film than the original, but we've hit our quota of controversial opinions.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Whenever people talk about humor being subjective, I'm reminded of the fact that I actively dislike Mel Brooks.
But yeah, Young Frankenstein is clearly horror/comedy to me.
But yeah, Young Frankenstein is clearly horror/comedy to me.
no it's FRAHNKENSHTINE
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I’d take the horror part out
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I’d take the horror part out
WVU Alum
Footballguy
Mr. Mom is ****ing terrifying. Did you see him drop off north? Everyone knows north is pick up.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
Same, And I have a bunch of horror/comedies on my list. Glad to see more egregious entries than mine.
Bossman
Footballguy
This seems like something I could really get into after 2 or 3 edibles .. lol.
