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FFA Top 200 Horror Movies of All Time: #93 - The Hitcher (3 Viewers)
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Went to see that with my dad when it came out. Both he and I thought it sucked.
Scoresman
Footballguy
#180 - The Masque of the Red Death
A European prince terrorizes the local peasantry while using his castle as a refuge against the "Red Death" plague that stalks the land.Roger Corman
1964
Psychological
USA
IMDB: 69
Metacritic: 77
RottenTomatoes: 64
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCUtm7mCF4I
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-masque-of-the-red-death
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ilov80s 17
Scoresman
Footballguy
#179 - As Above, So Below
When a team of explorers ventures into the catacombs that lie beneath the streets of Paris, they uncover the dark secret that lies within this city of the dead.John Erick Dowdle
2014
Occult, Found Footage
USA
IMDB: 62
Metacritic: 38
RottenTomatoes: 26
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_BaqNzdGXY
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/as-above-so-below
Voter Ranks
Frostillicus 69
Scoresman 26
Tick 73
Scoresman
Footballguy
#178 - Evil Dead Rise
A twisted tale of two estranged sisters whose reunion is cut short by the rise of flesh-possessing demons, thrusting them into a primal battle for survival as they face the most nightmarish version of family imaginable.Lee Cronin
2023
Supernatural
USA
IMDB: 65
Metacritic: 69
RottenTomatoes: 72
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTK_AeAPHs
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/evil-dead-rise
Voter Ranks
WVU Alum 16
WVU Alum
Footballguy
This one does a lot with very little. However, I constantly get it confused with The Pyramid because their visuals and base story are so similar. But The Pyramid is ***, and as such, I didn’t have As Above, So Below on my radar. I also thought it was repetitive and prone to dragging.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
This is the closest any of the movies got to the feel of the original 2. Fun, funny, and scary. Loved it.
Scoresman
Footballguy
I recommend this to anyone who likes found footage. I'm a sucker for good found footage, and this is one of the better ones. It's part Tomb Raider, The Descent, and National Treasure. It handles a lot of the trappings of found footage well, which is rare.
I'm a huge Evil Dead fan and really enjoyed this one. Appreciated the different setting and had some great visuals.
The Gator
Footballguy
Really liked this, was just off my list. Loved the lead
Keith R
The Don
Lots of love for this one I see. Reminds me of one that did make my list and I'm hoping to see later here
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
My ruling is not horror. More later as to my thoughts on why not.I agree about Se7en. Silence of the Lambs is borderline. And while I had never thought of it that way, I fully buy Terminator as horrorI am going to watch Terminator tonight and think more about that one. It feels like a call back to the discussion about movies like Se7en and Silence of the Lambs as to if it crosses over the boundary into horror or not. Btw, after more thought I am rounding on the opinion that Silence of the Lambs is horror and Se7en is about as close as a detective thriller gets to horror without being one.
Scoresman
Footballguy
My ruling is not horror. More later as to my thoughts on why not.I agree about Se7en. Silence of the Lambs is borderline. And while I had never thought of it that way, I fully buy Terminator as horrorI am going to watch Terminator tonight and think more about that one. It feels like a call back to the discussion about movies like Se7en and Silence of the Lambs as to if it crosses over the boundary into horror or not. Btw, after more thought I am rounding on the opinion that Silence of the Lambs is horror and Se7en is about as close as a detective thriller gets to horror without being one.
I feel like if you boil it down to it's basic premise:
"A woman is targeted and hunted by an armed killer"
You've just described every slasher film ever. That's enough for me to at least consider it horror as a subgenre.
If you put a hockey mask on Arnold, does it become horror?
Looking forward to the thoughts as I was the outlier to include it. I def think T1 is more in the realm than T2 (although I also included that one).My ruling is not horror. More later as to my thoughts on why not.I agree about Se7en. Silence of the Lambs is borderline. And while I had never thought of it that way, I fully buy Terminator as horrorI am going to watch Terminator tonight and think more about that one. It feels like a call back to the discussion about movies like Se7en and Silence of the Lambs as to if it crosses over the boundary into horror or not. Btw, after more thought I am rounding on the opinion that Silence of the Lambs is horror and Se7en is about as close as a detective thriller gets to horror without being one.
Scoresman
Footballguy
#177 - Black Christmas
An escaped maniac returns to his childhood home on Christmas Eve, which is now a sorority house, and begins to murder the sorority sisters one by one.Bob Clark
1974
Slasher, Christmas
Canada
IMDB: 72
Metacritic: NA
RottenTomatoes: 64
Trailer:
Black Christmas (1974) - Official Trailer (HD)
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Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/search?q=black christmas
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Scoresman 16
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jamny
Footballguy
Had I seen this as a kid, I probably would have loved it. But I only saw it for the first time last October and it's obviously been copied many times over and didn't really have much impact. For its time, I'm sure it was great.
jamny
Footballguy
Just missed the cut last October. Probably one I'll watch myself one day since my wife isn't really into found footage but I love a good one.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Seems like today's going to be full of controversial opinions. Mine is that Black Christmas is a better slasher film than Halloween.
While Halloween and Michael Myers are certainly more iconic, Black Christmas does many things just as well if not better. The cast is more sympathetic and realistic than the Halloween cast (outside of Jamie Lee Curtis). Having the killer be hidden is more frightening to me, and the finale is arguably much more suspenseful. So many other little things that I could point out in a longer post.
Carpenter was heavily influenced by Black Christmas, to the point where he asked the director if he was planning a sequel before making Halloween.
This is the first real movie where I'm shocked to be the only one to list it.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Somebody on Reddit put it much better than I could.
"Black Christmas is a hundred times creepier and it’s less “satisfying” in a way that I love. It holds back on the action, it holds back on the answers. It edges you a lot but never to completion and by the time the most unnerving credits in horror film history roll by it’s also let you go “unsatisfied” and without resolution. And the oft-overlooked decision not to have music of any kind apart from the in-movie hymn singing is a stroke of genius. The quiet parts of this film are the scariest, and most of it is the quiet part.
Basically put, Halloween is a much easier pill to swallow than Black Christmas, but nowhere near as rewarding in terms of sheer thrill and suspense. That’s where Black Christmas shines. It’s the spookiest slasher out there as far as I’m concerned. There are obvious reasons why Halloween endures in the pop culture lexicon more, but Black Christmas is purely a better film to me."
"Black Christmas is a hundred times creepier and it’s less “satisfying” in a way that I love. It holds back on the action, it holds back on the answers. It edges you a lot but never to completion and by the time the most unnerving credits in horror film history roll by it’s also let you go “unsatisfied” and without resolution. And the oft-overlooked decision not to have music of any kind apart from the in-movie hymn singing is a stroke of genius. The quiet parts of this film are the scariest, and most of it is the quiet part.
Basically put, Halloween is a much easier pill to swallow than Black Christmas, but nowhere near as rewarding in terms of sheer thrill and suspense. That’s where Black Christmas shines. It’s the spookiest slasher out there as far as I’m concerned. There are obvious reasons why Halloween endures in the pop culture lexicon more, but Black Christmas is purely a better film to me."
Scoresman
Footballguy
#176 - The Dead Zone
Johnny Smith is a schoolteacher with his whole life ahead of him but, after leaving his fiancee's home one night, is involved in a car crash which leaves him in a coma for 5 years. When he wakes, he discovers he has an ability to see into the past, present and future life of anyone with whom he comes into physical contact.David Cronenberg
1983
Supernatural, King
USA
IMDB: 72
Metacritic: 69
RottenTomatoes: 90
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxJp_VQ5VUk
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-dead-zone-stephen-king
Voter Ranks
IvanKaramazov 61
Todem 31
Scoresman
Footballguy
It gets much better/more of an addictive watch starting with 3.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I generally like cronenberg stuff so I’ll have to check that one out
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
This was literally #76 on my list. Really like this one. And I agree with you @Scoresman and your reasoning for why it’s so good.
Osaurus
Footballguy
This movie still freaks me out
Keith R
The Don
I didn't find it to have many of the Cronenberg tropes but it is certainly worth watching
Keith R
The Don
Didn't care much for the remake - thought it largely substituted gore for actual scares - so I haven't seen this one yet. It been waiting for me on Max for months
Scoresman
Footballguy
#175 - Nosferatu the Vampyre
Count Dracula moves from Transylvania to Wismar, spreading the Black Plague across the land. Only a woman pure of heart can bring an end to his reign of horror.Werner Herzog
1978
Vampire
Germany
IMDB: 76
Metacritic: NA
RottenTomatoes: 94
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Rachk7ipI
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/nosferatu-the-vampyre
Voter Ranks
Scoresman 15
Scoresman
Footballguy
#174 - Altered States
A research scientist explores the boundaries and frontiers of consciousness. Using sensory deprivation and hallucinogenic mixtures from native American shamans, he explores these altered states of consciousness and finds that memory, time, and perhaps reality itself are states of mind.Ken Russell
1980
Psychological
USA
IMDB: 69
Metacritic: 58
RottenTomatoes: 86
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67lYG7a4YOA
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/altered-states
Voter Ranks
shuke 15
WVU Alum
Footballguy
If Arnold was just a dude and not a robot, no one would argue against it being horror. My take is that it is horror.My ruling is not horror. More later as to my thoughts on why not.I agree about Se7en. Silence of the Lambs is borderline. And while I had never thought of it that way, I fully buy Terminator as horrorI am going to watch Terminator tonight and think more about that one. It feels like a call back to the discussion about movies like Se7en and Silence of the Lambs as to if it crosses over the boundary into horror or not. Btw, after more thought I am rounding on the opinion that Silence of the Lambs is horror and Se7en is about as close as a detective thriller gets to horror without being one.
I feel like if you boil it down to it's basic premise:
"A woman is targeted and hunted by an armed killer"
You've just described every slasher film ever. That's enough for me to at least consider it horror as a subgenre.
If you put a hockey mask on Arnold, does it become horror?
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I assume we're talking about the 1974 version here, right? The trailer seems to be a much more modern remake or something.
WVU Alum
Footballguy
I have fond memories of watching this as a kid. That said, I think the remake is slightly better, and it has been copied by better movies. That said, certainly deserves being on the list.
Scoresman
Footballguy
This is my favorite Dracula/vampire movie. It's an homage/remake of the original 1922 Nosferatu. I feel like Klaus Kinski's portrayal of Dracula as not only an ugly viscious predator, but a sympathetic figure is the best ever portrayed. The cinematography and location shots are absolutely dreamlike.
Scoresman
Footballguy
Yes, the original, I fixed the link.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Okay, (a) Black Christmas looks pretty awesome, (b) they really took a different approach to movie trailers back in the 70s, didn't they?, (c) what a random movie for Margot Kidder to make an appearance in.
Todem
Footballguy
#177 - Black Christmas
An escaped maniac returns to his childhood home on Christmas Eve, which is now a sorority house, and begins to murder the sorority sisters one by one.
Bob Clark
1974
Slasher, Christmas
Canada
IMDB: 72
Metacritic: NA
RottenTomatoes: 64
Trailer:
Black Christmas (1974) - Official Trailer (HD)
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Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/search?q=black christmas
Voter Ranks
Scoresman 16
As Above So Below - I had this just outside my top 100. It is a great found footage horror film. I am not a huge fan of found footage overall.....I just don’t like the whole camera shake....it bothers me after a while. But for the really good ones in the genre...I deal. And this is easily one of them that I can deal with. It is a creepy, dark and claustrophobic ride. I highly recommend this one. Very believable characters and an outstanding historic location.
Evil Dead Rise - So I love the original trilogy and my votes for a couple of those films will reflect that. I did not like the remake of the original. I thought it was a poor attempt. However this second of the new reboot of this legendary series was a damn good movie. It definitely as mentioned by @WVU Alum harkens back to the style of Evil Dead 1 and 2 big time. The setting is very creepy, the intro to the movie......I don’t want to ruin it so I won’t. It is a strong effort, great characters, strong acting and it combines horror and some elements of comedy beautifully. A worthy entry into the series indeed. It did not make my top 75 but it is easily in my top 200.
Black Christmas - This movie literally just missed the cut in my top 75. Is it worthy? Absolutely. But I was quite young when I saw it the first time and did not remember it too well. I did watch it again 2 years ago and it is a very creepy and unusual horror film in terms of a lot of decisions that @Scoresman points out that were made that make it so creepy yet no real payoff. It is the godfather of the slasher genre if you ask John Carpenter. Do I agree it is better than Halloween? Hell no. No way. But that’s my opinion. Halloween is far more “accessible” and relatable. But Black Christmas is a very good movie. Highly recommended. Don’t even bother with the pathetic remake.....utter hot garbage.
The Dead Zone - Oh man....this movie still holds up incredibly well. A fine film with the great Christopher Walken as the man who can see the future just by holding your hand. Martin Sheen plays a fantastic “villain”. This is a light Cronenberg affair compared to other works I ranked (yeah I have 3 of his films in my top 75). A pretty straightforward film for him. But it works and is a chilling and tragic film. One of the best King adaptions every made IMO. It was such a great story they made a great TV series out of it with Anthony Michael Hall (great show BTW).
Nosferatu The Vampire (1978) - Oh yes.....we remember this one well. I watched this on that old pay per view service we had back in the 70’s called “On TV”. It was a box you had for monthly subscription that you simply turned on and set your TV set to channel 3 and you had a schedule (A TV Guide for it) of when big screen films would be on. It was HBO before HBO and cable hit the nation. This is a gritty, grimy, vampire movie. And it is extremely stylistic with just this pure feeling of dread, death and disease. It is one of the better vampire movies ever made. It is in my top 200 for sure.
Altered States - This just missed my top 75 cut. This is a wild movie. It has not aged great but is still highly watchable. If you have never seen it...it is a whacky watch. It’s quite disturbing and partaking is highly encouraged prior to viewing.
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Scoresman
Footballguy
#173 - Grindhouse
Joshua Grannell's short was later remade by him as feature called "All About Evil".Various
2007
Extreme, Action
USA
IMDB: 76
Metacritic: 77
RottenTomatoes: 83
Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXApQ5uF92w
Streaming:
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/grindhouse-2007
Voter Ranks
Keith R 15
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
If terminator is horror anything can be
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Can’t wait for Die Hard to make an appearance
Keith R
The Don
I saw The Grindhouse on opening night and from the gate, it captured the essence of the over-the-top 1970's-style double feature. From the Machete trailer, we get into the very non-CGI Planet Terror by Robert Rodriguez. A very entertaining romp on a whole lot of levels. After that, some more fun fake trailers from a who's who of horror directors (Eli Roth, Rob Zombie and Edgar Wright) then we close with Tarantino's Death proof. I can't remember a crowd bursting into applause at the end of a movie as enthusiastically as the crowd I experienced this with. Much MUCH more than the sum of its parts, this was an all-time moviegoing event that I wish more could have experienced in its proper form.
Die Hard will be saved for the top Christmas movies
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I very strongly considered listing Grindhouse instead of just Death Proof. Not complaining, because I didn't ask for clarification and it's NBD anyway. This was just a flat-out fun cinema experience made by people who really want folks to enjoy being in a cinema. I'm sure I had some stupid smile on my face through the entire thing, especially the fake "reel played out of order" segment of Planet Terror. Great experience.
Keith R
The Don
It's probably too early to ask, but I wonder where Grindhouse would have placed if you combined its votes with Death Proof's (and potentially Planet Terror's)
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This is the first one that I noticed on the countdown where my list would have come in to change the 200 a bit. I am quite surprised that you were the only one, my first pass through had it at #12, so I am right there with you. The phone calls are creepy AF.