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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (16 Viewers)

'John Bender said:
Lol. We are all degenerate gamblers. We talk about what books are doing well, what books have issues, etc. Don't take anything personal Kurt.
I know that man. But there were some pretty nasty accusations being thrown around here about me/RB over the last week. Just email if you have a complaint or problem. I broke my wrist and was only 2 days late getting money out this month.I really want you guys to get your money when you have winning months quicker than other books can offer, I keep telling the book owner to stay away from credit card deposits let the boys run on 10-20 of weekly credit a week with nothing but an internet handshake to seal the deal, I tell him I will get the number of slow pays down (which I have), I vouche for some to get max bets raised (sometimes results in a slow pay), etc...There are some good books and good honest people out there. Not everyone is out to get you. I wouldn't work for these guys if they were not 100% legit.
 
Anyone post their bowl picks/leans yet? I thought I saw some from DD, but have no idea how far back they are.
Toledo/Utah State UNDER 58.5 Toledo +10.5

Utah State's defense is legit and although Toledo should be healed up after some injuries down the stretch, I still like Utah State to slow this down. Heart says over so I'm doing the Costanza here because the numbers seem to indicate under. Rockets didn't lose by ten once this year, NIU/Ball State/Zona all beat them by a TD. Could be a backdoor but I like Toledo here.

I lean Arizona on Saturday but I'm waiting on game news. I lean under too with both teams being so good at running the ball but damn, they really play horrible D and Richrods teams are sloppy meaning TDs you wouldn't expect. I might just play the side and maybe jump on a 2h total depending.

others already booked:

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Ball State +8.5

Boise State/Washington OVER 46.5

Fresno State/SMU UNDER 59

Texas/Oregon State OVER 55

Northwestern +1.5

LSU -3.5

Pitt/Ole Miss OVER 51.5

-------------------------ALL BETWEEN LINE ARE AUTOPLAYS

West Virginia -4 Should be a close game but I like Tavon Austin at RB and WVU with time to prepare that machine on offense

Oregon State -2 meh, now I like Texas but Oregon State is the better team IMO

Fresno State -11 Would be my 35 in a bowl pool but I do smell trap here. Fresno does everything well and SMU's offense is bad, Fresno will have to come out completely flat not to cover this number.

Vanderbilt -6.5 Love Vandy's D against a Jekyll and Hyde NC State team with an interim coach

Michigan/USC UNDER 48.5 USC's offense will pound it and UM's D is good enough to take some blows. Michigan's offense looked lost down the stretch, and this USC defense is one of the best units in CFB.

I have leans on several other games but I will wait for team news and weather for some, key numbers for others.
Nice work here, thanks mang :thumbup:

 
'oukurt said:
I got 1 complaint about the lines being delayed a few days ago by email and that was from my buddy Jester who is never happy.
That's me for the record, guys
This guy and I don't always see eye to eye but he always contacts me directly. I should have come over to check things out here when you emailed me. I apologize. You are a fantastic customer I never have to mess around with.
 
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'oukurt said:
I got 1 complaint about the lines being delayed a few days ago by email and that was from my buddy Jester who is never happy.
That's me for the record, guys
This guy and I don't always see eye to eye but he always contacts me directly. I should have come over to check things out here when you emailed me. I apologize. You are a fantastic customer I never have to mess around with.
:thumbup:
 
'oukurt said:
I got 1 complaint about the lines being delayed a few days ago by email and that was from my buddy Jester who is never happy.
That's me for the record, guys
This guy and I don't always see eye to eye but he always contacts me directly. I should have come over to check things out here when you emailed me. I apologize. You are a fantastic customer I never have to mess around with.
I just wish you guys carried a full slate of player props :hophead:
 
In RB for a month now, all's well. I play my props elsewhere...would I love to consolidate? Sure. Would I like a WARNING sign when i'm about to make a horrible decision? - (see playing HOUSTON vs ne :bag: ) Absolutely. Otherwise, i've emailed a few times and typically get immediate responses that address whatever issue I have. Dunno, seems good to me.

 
In RB for a month now, all's well. I play my props elsewhere...would I love to consolidate? Sure. Would I like a WARNING sign when i'm about to make a horrible decision? - (see playing HOUSTON vs ne :bag: ) Absolutely. Otherwise, i've emailed a few times and typically get immediate responses that address whatever issue I have. Dunno, seems good to me.
Good here too. I had a slow pay a year ago and was given a second chance and made sure not to blow it again. Always get paid faster than my other book by far as well. Don't take things to personal OUK.
 
Sweet! I had Kurt going passive-aggressive at -230. :moneybag: Hopefully, the "we're friends" part qualifies me because that was about it.

 
'oukurt said:
I got 1 complaint about the lines being delayed a few days ago by email and that was from my buddy Jester who is never happy.
That's me for the record, guys
This guy and I don't always see eye to eye but he always contacts me directly. I should have come over to check things out here when you emailed me. I apologize. You are a fantastic customer I never have to mess around with.
I just wish you guys carried a full slate of player props :hophead:
Saw your message about player props. Most people know that the reason why these were shut down was because of one of my customers being a known outlaw and banned from many online books for being an absolute sharp vs player props. I used his plays at at online book playing very lightly and was shut down to a 5 dollar max within a week. So thus the reason no player props. We still let him play and he usually collects each month though. He just doesn't do it betting player props.Are you a customer?

 
OK guys, doing a 4-team 13pt teaser for NFL Week 15 for 3U -120:

NFL [302] PHI EAGLES +17½-110 (B+13)

NFL [316] BAL RAVENS +16-120 (B+13)

NFL [322] BUF BILLS +18½-110 (B+13)

NFL [326] DAL COWBOYS +14½-110 (B+13)

I like it, best of luck this weekend gents.

 
'oukurt said:
I got 1 complaint about the lines being delayed a few days ago by email and that was from my buddy Jester who is never happy.
That's me for the record, guys
This guy and I don't always see eye to eye but he always contacts me directly. I should have come over to check things out here when you emailed me. I apologize. You are a fantastic customer I never have to mess around with.
I just wish you guys carried a full slate of player props :hophead:
Saw your message about player props. Most people know that the reason why these were shut down was because of one of my customers being a known outlaw and banned from many online books for being an absolute sharp vs player props. I used his plays at at online book playing very lightly and was shut down to a 5 dollar max within a week. So thus the reason no player props. We still let him play and he usually collects each month though. He just doesn't do it betting player props.Are you a customer?
Had an EVO account I played lightly opened it with the thought that there might be props and didn't make the switch to RB because of the lack of props. You're a good dude and I prefer the personal touch vs other books. I'm starting to play more sides as I get cut on props in more and more sports, but will likely move from SB to 5D to ride props a bit longer if I can
 
CBBWisconsin -17 1/2Temple -16Fresno St. +1 2 basketball units43-39-1. +.4 units
Glad to see I brought my ####ty Vegas luck home with me. Jesus. Just last week I was up over 7 units. Ugh.
Yeah, i have randomly tailed over the last 2 days and have somehow went 0-8. Always impressive how it seems to be the 0-fors and not the ___-0 runs. Glad to see NFL is back tomorrow and we can all hopefully get a little bounce back.
 
Also, Kurt. We have an evil genius here known in upper echelon circles as The Peoples Champion who dominates UFC/MMA lines.

Do you plan on offering lines on these events.

 
Also, Kurt. We have an evil genius here known in upper echelon circles as The Peoples Champion who dominates UFC/MMA lines.Do you plan on offering lines on these events.
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: I haven't had a chance to get back to Kurt inquiring about this, but it definitely is a biggie for me. If I had any common sense i would bow out a little more of betting the fringe sports i do not know much about and stick to that
 
'John Bender said:
Lol. We are all degenerate gamblers. We talk about what books are doing well, what books have issues, etc. Don't take anything personal Kurt.
:goodposting: This is the whole point of the thread. I emailed you when I felt it was a problem for me personally. A couple delays here and there I'm not going to sweat but it had been 2 weeks so I assumed something had changed and sent you an email.And feel free to tell your boss if he goes to credit card deposits I'm gone. Lots of book take those and have overnight lines, you're biggest advantage is being credit(for me anyway, can't speak for everyone)
 
Anyone post their bowl picks/leans yet? I thought I saw some from DD, but have no idea how far back they are.
Toledo/Utah State UNDER 58.5 Toledo +10.5

Utah State's defense is legit and although Toledo should be healed up after some injuries down the stretch, I still like Utah State to slow this down. Heart says over so I'm doing the Costanza here because the numbers seem to indicate under. Rockets didn't lose by ten once this year, NIU/Ball State/Zona all beat them by a TD. Could be a backdoor but I like Toledo here.

I lean Arizona on Saturday but I'm waiting on game news. I lean under too with both teams being so good at running the ball but damn, they really play horrible D and Richrods teams are sloppy meaning TDs you wouldn't expect. I might just play the side and maybe jump on a 2h total depending.

others already booked:

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Ball State +8.5

Boise State/Washington OVER 46.5

Fresno State/SMU UNDER 59

Texas/Oregon State OVER 55

Northwestern +1.5

LSU -3.5

Pitt/Ole Miss OVER 51.5

-------------------------ALL BETWEEN LINE ARE AUTOPLAYS

West Virginia -4 Should be a close game but I like Tavon Austin at RB and WVU with time to prepare that machine on offense

Oregon State -2 meh, now I like Texas but Oregon State is the better team IMO

Fresno State -11 Would be my 35 in a bowl pool but I do smell trap here. Fresno does everything well and SMU's offense is bad, Fresno will have to come out completely flat not to cover this number.

Vanderbilt -6.5 Love Vandy's D against a Jekyll and Hyde NC State team with an interim coach

Michigan/USC UNDER 48.5 USC's offense will pound it and UM's D is good enough to take some blows. Michigan's offense looked lost down the stretch, and this USC defense is one of the best units in CFB.

I have leans on several other games but I will wait for team news and weather for some, key numbers for others.
blackgamblingdotforlater
 
'ChainsawU said:
Also, Kurt. We have an evil genius here known in upper echelon circles as The Peoples Champion who dominates UFC/MMA lines.Do you plan on offering lines on these events.
Yes those lines should have never been taken down. They should be back up. All boxing and MMA is available as far as I know. If not I will make sure it is.
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.

 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110

 
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Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
 
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Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
:banned:
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Isn't this like the 4th STRAIGHT road game that they've been favored? :unsure:
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
OH MY GOSH, where did you get all that insider info??? Thanks!
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Isn't this like the 4th STRAIGHT road game that they've been favored? :unsure:
Holy crap you're right. I'm dying over here. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Jeremy Maclin is pretty good and Avant may have had the catch of the year. But doesn't all that scare you that they are only 5 point favorites? On paper shouldn't the spread be bigger? We'll see. I wouldn't lay money on the Eagles as a fan but seems like Vegas is up to something.
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Jeremy Maclin is pretty good and Avant may have had the catch of the year. But doesn't all that scare you that they are only 5 point favorites? On paper shouldn't the spread be bigger? We'll see. I wouldn't lay money on the Eagles as a fan but seems like Vegas is up to something.
Only 5 points? The Eagles were 7.5 dogs in Tampa last week. How much more should they get at home... from Cincy? I think it's a little too high, which tells me Cincy blowout. :shrug:
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Jeremy Maclin is pretty good and Avant may have had the catch of the year. But doesn't all that scare you that they are only 5 point favorites? On paper shouldn't the spread be bigger? We'll see. I wouldn't lay money on the Eagles as a fan but seems like Vegas is up to something.
Only 5 points? The Eagles were 7.5 dogs in Tampa last week. How much more should they get at home... from Cincy? I think it's a little too high, which tells me Cincy blowout. :shrug:
I was responding to the guy saying they were without their starting QB, RB, etc. If I had to bet, I'd probably bet on the Bengals but usually when things make this much sense, they never seem to work out. 70% were on the Bengals but Kurt was saying late money coming in on the Eagles. So we'll see. Not a game I'd touch with a 10 foot pole unless you got the Bengals at 3 and are middling at 5.5.
 
Okay, the :moneybag: S*Y*S*T*E*M :moneybag: has a whopping 6 plays this week. And since one happens to be tonight's game, I wanted to give those of you with NFL lines out there a chance to bet it (it's a joke, big, bad Kurt, plz don't strangle me! :X ).

PHILLY. HTH.
Fading you for a dime. That isn't a joke big bad Brong.Pm me when you release your other 5.

71215109-1 12/13/2012 6:15 PM Spread 1,100.00 1,000.00 Football - 301 Cincinnati Bengals -4.5 -110
Love it. I will release them here, like I have been. I will also release the secret to the system sometime soon so stay tuned!
Does the system involve wagering your cash on a team without their starting QB (insert rookie), starting RB (insert rookie), best WR is Jason Avant, and a team that has quit on its coach vs a team fighting for a wild card spot? When was the last time Cincy was a road favorite? Boomer Esiason era?
Jeremy Maclin is pretty good and Avant may have had the catch of the year. But doesn't all that scare you that they are only 5 point favorites? On paper shouldn't the spread be bigger? We'll see. I wouldn't lay money on the Eagles as a fan but seems like Vegas is up to something.
Only 5 points? The Eagles were 7.5 dogs in Tampa last week. How much more should they get at home... from Cincy? I think it's a little too high, which tells me Cincy blowout. :shrug:
I was responding to the guy saying they were without their starting QB, RB, etc. If I had to bet, I'd probably bet on the Bengals but usually when things make this much sense, they never seem to work out. 70% were on the Bengals but Kurt was saying late money coming in on the Eagles. So we'll see. Not a game I'd touch with a 10 foot pole unless you got the Bengals at 3 and are middling at 5.5.
I gotcha, misunderstood ya, as I usually do my bad. I'm tempted to go Cincy/under but I'm fighting the urge.
 
I'm staying with my grandfather this week for the holidays. Only basic cable but I do have the Watch ESPn app.

They are showing high school basketball. Wtmf!?!

 
I gotcha, misunderstood ya, as I usually do my bad. I'm tempted to go Cincy/under but I'm fighting the urge.
I threw some money on the under. Thursday night and a rookie QB. Eagles starting to play pass better so the run will be exposed. On an unrelated note, is there any math on betting the favorite and the under. I would assume that if you are going under, it would make more sense to go dog in a low scoring game or if you are going favorite, they might get the over alone. But I could be completely off on this.
 

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