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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (12 Viewers)

Where are all the sports? Why couldn't they have MNF on Christmas Eve? Last year they had games on Christmas Eve and Christmas.

So any leans on the SMU game or the Maccabi Haifa game? Is there some lean on going with the Maccabees on Christmas Eve?

 
Where are all the sports? Why couldn't they have MNF on Christmas Eve? Last year they had games on Christmas Eve and Christmas.So any leans on the SMU game or the Maccabi Haifa game? Is there some lean on going with the Maccabees on Christmas Eve?
I'm laying the points with Fresno. I think they are a very talented team. SMU aint bad in it's own right.
 
'bmj87 said:
'Good said:
'tjnc09 said:
'Good said:
Does anybody have any experience using Poisson distributions for handicapping props? What statistics can I apply it to across the major sports?
Bump for Pickles. From what I understand, rebounds and assists (for an individual player in one game) would work, but points would not?
I have a statistics degree but I am kind of :unsure: what you are asking
OK, so I found this pretty cool Poisson/gambling calculator which cuts out all of the hard mathy stuff. ((Poisson Background here)Calculator here: http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-tools/poisson-calculator/

Let's say there's an o/u 8.5 Greg Monroe rebounds prop. I figure that Monroe is going to get 9.6 rebounds, and the calculator gives me a 62.04% probability that Monroe will get 9 or more rebounds, which is obviously a play.

So, my assumption is that this works for rebounds, assists, soccer goals, but is probably slightly/somewhat inaccurate for NBA points.
Right. I forget the math words, so forgive me. But you can only use Poisson on events that occur one at a time. Because NBA points can be totaled from shots consisting of 1 point, 2 points, or 3 points, it wouldn't work. Similar problem with yards in football. Works very well with K props in baseball.
Besides, don't the books have guys who are crunching these same numbers in order to set the prop line?I guess the answer is probably "not really" since GooRoo always exposes laughable lines.

 
Nev/ZONA 2h OVER LOSS

Toledo/Utah State UNDER 58.5 WIN

Toledo +10.5 LOSS

BYU/SDSU 1H UNDER 23.5 (.5u) WIN

BYU/SDSU UNDER 49 WIN

Ball State +8.5 (Autoplay) AUTOFAIL

ULL/ECU OVER 65 WIN

ECU +175 (.5u) LOSS

Boise State/Washington OVER 46.5 (AP) AUTOAWESOME

Boise State 2h -2.5 (.5u) LOSS

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Fresno State/SMU UNDER 59/60 (1.75u)(AP)

Fresno State -11 (1.5u)

Western Kentucky -5

ULM/OHIO OVER 59.5

Air Force/RICE OVER 61

Texas/Oregon State OVER 55 (AP)

Northwestern +1.5 (AP)

LSU -3.5 (AP)

Pitt/Ole Miss OVER 51.5 (AP)

West Virginia -4 (1.5u)

Oregon State -2

Vanderbilt -6.5

Michigan/USC UNDER 48.5
June Jones brought SMU into this game two years ago and blew up what I thought was an easy win with Nevada -13. But I think this Fresno team is better than that Nevada team and this SMU team is meh. The total and side go together, if you like SMU you might consider the over.
 
Just a couple thoughts and opinions that support SMU:

[*]The SMU defense is underrated, allowing 27 ppg, with a lot of those points coming on a short field after offensive turnovers.

[*]Garrett Gilbert has a bad TD to INT ratio over his career, but has not been picked off in his last 166 attempts.

[*]The SMU defense is tied with Fresno State and Boise State for third in the nation in turnovers gained with 33. And Boise State beat Fresno earlier in the year.

[*]June Jones holds a record of 7-2 in bowl games; 2-1 with SMU and 4-1 in Hawaii Bowls (1-0 with SMU).

 
Even after all that I still can't back SMU and am going Fresno State TT for 1H and full game.

Fresno State 1H TT o20 Even

Fresno State o37 -115

 
Key stat: 1, the number of NCAA teams ranked nationally in the Top 20 in both total offense and total defense. That team is Fresno State, which ranks 14th offensively and 19th defensively. SMU, by comparison, ranks 95th and 65th, respectively. link
 
Just a couple thoughts and opinions that support SMU:

[*]The SMU defense is underrated, allowing 27 ppg, with a lot of those points coming on a short field after offensive turnovers.

[*]Garrett Gilbert has a bad TD to INT ratio over his career, but has not been picked off in his last 166 attempts.

[*]The SMU defense is tied with Fresno State and Boise State for third in the nation in turnovers gained with 33. And Boise State beat Fresno earlier in the year.

[*]June Jones holds a record of 7-2 in bowl games; 2-1 with SMU and 4-1 in Hawaii Bowls (1-0 with SMU).
I think the good Doctor has this spot on. Carr with an incredible 36/5 td to intercept rate. Smu's defensive weakness is against the pass. Both teams about the same rushing the ball, averaging about 4.5 a carry and giving up 4 yards a carry defensively. SMU was 5-3 in a very down yr for CUSA, however they beat tulsa while Fresno lost to them as the only common opponent. Quality wins about equal, maybe slight edge to Fresno with victories over 3 teams that made bowl games. Lastly, Fresno is ranked 12 in the nation in passing and total pts. scored, and 28th in the nation defensively points scored. They are efficient. One thing I don't like about this bowl season so far, its been all chalk victories and covers.

 
'bmj87 said:
'Good said:
'tjnc09 said:
'Good said:
Does anybody have any experience using Poisson distributions for handicapping props? What statistics can I apply it to across the major sports?
Bump for Pickles. From what I understand, rebounds and assists (for an individual player in one game) would work, but points would not?
I have a statistics degree but I am kind of :unsure: what you are asking
OK, so I found this pretty cool Poisson/gambling calculator which cuts out all of the hard mathy stuff. ((Poisson Background here)Calculator here: http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-tools/poisson-calculator/

Let's say there's an o/u 8.5 Greg Monroe rebounds prop. I figure that Monroe is going to get 9.6 rebounds, and the calculator gives me a 62.04% probability that Monroe will get 9 or more rebounds, which is obviously a play.

So, my assumption is that this works for rebounds, assists, soccer goals, but is probably slightly/somewhat inaccurate for NBA points.
Right. I forget the math words, so forgive me. But you can only use Poisson on events that occur one at a time. Because NBA points can be totaled from shots consisting of 1 point, 2 points, or 3 points, it wouldn't work. Similar problem with yards in football. Works very well with K props in baseball.
Besides, don't the books have guys who are crunching these same numbers in order to set the prop line?I guess the answer is probably "not really" since GooRoo always exposes laughable lines.
Looks to me that the books usually roll the with the player average with perhaps a little tweaking for matchup. The advantages are when they don't account enough for matchups or lineup/philosophy changes by teams.
 
Key stat: 1, the number of NCAA teams ranked nationally in the Top 20 in both total offense and total defense. That team is Fresno State, which ranks 14th offensively and 19th defensively. SMU, by comparison, ranks 95th and 65th, respectively. link
Agree, and again, CUSA was definetly weak to have those kind of numbers for smu. The butt pirates of E.Carolina didn't look all that impressive the other night. I expect another average team (6-6)in weak conference to lose to a good team (9-3)in an average conference. Another thing about Smu's upset of tulsa, it was a huge look ahead to UCF game the weak after. Game was inconsequential, I remember betting on it and losing and being pssst that they layed down.

 
:goodposting:

Tulsa had just played UCF the prior week and were going into the conference championship v UCF again the next week. SMU had the lead early, but Tulsa was making its way back into the game at the end. Also note Tulsa's propensity to the rushing attack, which SMU is better at defending.

 
I've watched Fresno State a few times, I think they are easily better than Tulsa. I think if they were in a bowl game with a Big Ten or Pac Ten middler, they'd hammer them.

To me SMU has trouble scoring in this game, that is my main focus for my plays. I also think if Fresno gets the lead they are just going to grind it out running the ball the whole second half. If the score is 17-7 or so at half, I'll be pleased.

 
I've watched Fresno State a few times, I think they are easily better than Tulsa. I think if they were in a bowl game with a Big Ten or Pac Ten middler, they'd hammer them. To me SMU has trouble scoring in this game, that is my main focus for my plays. I also think if Fresno gets the lead they are just going to grind it out running the ball the whole second half. If the score is 17-7 or so at half, I'll be pleased.
:goodposting:Carr and Rouse are two very good Sr. College football players. This is a lets not go crazy type game, but it's the only thing on TV so I'm rolling with the Favorite.
 
OK boys - I'm rolling out to my Parents house in a few minutes to eat some food and watch my daughter open up a fresh pair of PJ's and a matching Minnie Mouse doll.

Merry Christmas you miserable b@stards.

 
If you guys are looking for a way to get your SO drunk, there is this chocolate wine, Chocovine. There are a couple different brands. I am pretty sure it is not suited for a more discerning palate, but if you are with one of those girls who used to love Boone’s Farm as a child, get some of this this stuff for her because it is pure alcohol and goes down easy. It is basically just Yoo-Hoo for adults.
Is this anything like the adult chocolate milk? Picked some of that up b/c I couldn't find chocovine. Figured, I'd class it up a bit on the Eve.
 
June Jones brought SMU into this game two years ago and blew up what I thought was an easy win with Nevada -13. But I think this Fresno team is better than that Nevada team and this SMU team is meh. The total and side go together, if you like SMU you might consider the over.
Wait, this year's Fresno State is better than Kaepernick's Nevada team two years ago? Not that it matters all that much, but no way. Nevada was a top 10 team at the end of that year, imo.Re-reading it, your first sentence confuses me as well, gb. I can't tell but are you saying SMU took out a heavily favored Nevada two years ago in this game (they didn't play)?

Hold on, I just looked it up. You've got your year's wrong. You are thinking Nevada/SMU 09'.

 
Fresno State -6.5 / UNDER 67

Fresno State isn't your typical pre-NYE heavy favorite. They earned their way into this game and want to play in it. Don't remember exactly which Coach it is for Fresno, think it's the D-Coord, that has experience and success vs SMU. Not more than a 1u play for me, but feel good about playing that 1u and hitting this combo.

Good Luck and Merry Christmas to those of you who go that route!

 
See, now I think SMU will be able to score. Fresno is only ranked 72nd vs the run (172 ypg), and Line is a quality tailback, just one TD shy of Dickerson's school record. Gilbert has played well of late also, like someone else mentioned. I'll take the boatloads of points. Of course, I have lost approximately 37 consecutive bets.

SMU +13 even

 
June Jones brought SMU into this game two years ago and blew up what I thought was an easy win with Nevada -13. But I think this Fresno team is better than that Nevada team and this SMU team is meh. The total and side go together, if you like SMU you might consider the over.
Wait, this year's Fresno State is better than Kaepernick's Nevada team two years ago? Not that it matters all that much, but no way. Nevada was a top 10 team at the end of that year, imo.Re-reading it, your first sentence confuses me as well, gb. I can't tell but are you saying SMU took out a heavily favored Nevada two years ago in this game (they didn't play)?

Hold on, I just looked it up. You've got your year's wrong. You are thinking Nevada/SMU 09'.
Yeah, three years ago I got them confused because all these Hawaii Bowls run together. That Nevada team looking back was ok, but not great.
 
See, now I think SMU will be able to score. Fresno is only ranked 72nd vs the run (172 ypg), and Line is a quality tailback, just one TD shy of Dickerson's school record. Gilbert has played well of late also, like someone else mentioned. I'll take the boatloads of points. Of course, I have lost approximately 37 consecutive bets.

SMU +13 even
Inside the trenches: Fresno State is ranked 73rd in the bowl subdivision in rushing defense, allowing 171.9 yards per game. But, the Bulldogs have faced six of the top 15 rushing offenses in Air Force (second with 328.8 ypg), Oregon (third with 323.3), New Mexico (fifth with 301.3), Nevada (seventh with 271.0), Tulsa (11th with 240.2) and San Diego State (15th with 229.2). The Mustangs are ranked only 94th in rushing offense, averaging 128.9 yards per game. link
 
If you guys are looking for a way to get your SO drunk, there is this chocolate wine, Chocovine. There are a couple different brands. I am pretty sure it is not suited for a more discerning palate, but if you are with one of those girls who used to love Boone’s Farm as a child, get some of this this stuff for her because it is pure alcohol and goes down easy. It is basically just Yoo-Hoo for adults.
Is this anything like the adult chocolate milk? Picked some of that up b/c I couldn't find chocovine. Figured, I'd class it up a bit on the Eve.
Nice! Chocovine is a screw cap. The adult chocolate milk bottle looks a little classier and has a higher alcohol percentage. :thumbup:
 
following thread consensus.

Fresno State -13

Under 63.5

2-team teaser (ties win) Fresno St -7/Under 69

a little under a unit on the side. a little more than a unit on the teaser.

:football:

 
following thread consensus.Fresno State -13Under 63.52-team teaser (ties win) Fresno St -7/Under 69a little under a unit on the side. a little more than a unit on the teaser. :football:
1u teaser: Fresno -6.5/u67.51u parlay: Fresno -12.5/u61.51u total u61.51u Fresno -12.50.5u Fresno -12:scared:
 
Hey, is that former Colorado State great and Seahawks 1st round pick Kelly Stouffer who beat out Mark McGwire's brother Dan then never won a game in the booth there he is! :excited:

 
Hey, is that former Colorado State great and Seahawks 1st round pick Kelly Stouffer who beat out Mark McGwire's brother Dan then never won a game in the booth there he is! :excited:
He threw one of the most incredible passes you will ever see. It always plays on those NFL Follies shows. He drops back to pass, gets hit in the face and knocked down by his own player by mistake - breaking his nose in the process. He calmly gets up and delivers a STRIKE 50 yards down field for a TD. Beautiful spiral.Unfortunately, that was the highlight of his career.
 

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