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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (8 Viewers)

PAC 12 is 3-1 ATS so far this bowl season - covering by 9, 12 and 19 (Wash, OSU, and USC) .Wash St is the only team not to cover on the last minute back door

Oregon should make it 4-1 here :oldunsure:

 
this Toledo CBB team is a real pain in the ###. why won't they just stop trying and roll over and let Kansas cover??

 
The Chiefs +8.5 in a teaser is too good to be true. They are rested and are simply the better team. I'm just not sure who to pair them with in a 2-teamer. I don't trust the Saints outdoors... Philly could easily win that game by 10+. GB +9 is a terrible number. That leaves Cincy -1?

 
yeah 9 is worthless in the NFL - check out that trend of West Coast playing 10AM games on the East Coast - they win SU 31% and they cover ATS 41%

 
:X kicked ### early today with all of the NFL player prop futures cashing, and i just gave it all back and then some. :kicksrock:

 
modogg said:
So i'm watching the CBB games on ESPN gamecast (hate ESPN :rant: ), and there is a game between Southern and Champion Baptist Coll that is 75-6. Is that possibly correct? i can't imagine it is, but if it is, yikes
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Dan Wetzel ‏@DanWetzel

Southern beat Champion Baptist 116-12. Imagine how bad Runner-Up Baptist is.

 
Don't sleep on the Chargers. You can get good odds on them winning the AFC still. They have won 5 of 6. Let me tell you why they are good play:

1. Their only loss in the last 6 weeks was to the Bengals, but the Chargers had 5 starters out that game and the Chargers OL was shuffled because of the injuries. Even then, the Bengals only won by 7. The Chargers are a LOT healthier now than that game.

2. Ignore the game vs the Chiefs backups. The Chargers play to the level of their competition.

3. If the Chargers beat the Bengals, they play at Denver next. They beat Denver in Denver a few weeks ago, in the worst loss for Denver all year. They dominated them. The Broncos are utterly unable to stop the Chargers rushing attack. The Chargers are built to beat the Broncos.

4. If a potential AFC Championship game, the Chargers will draw either the Colts, Chiefs, or Patriots. The Chargers swept the Chiefs and beat the Colts this year. They did not play the Patriots. So two out of the 3 possibilities are matchups the Chargers have already won this year.

5. The Chargers are 5-2 this year vs playoff teams. That's a very strong record. They have beaten the Broncos, Colts, Eagles, and the Chiefs twice. They also beat the Cowboys.

 
Raider Nation said:
The Chiefs +8.5 in a teaser is too good to be true. They are rested and are simply the better team. I'm just not sure who to pair them with in a 2-teamer. I don't trust the Saints outdoors... Philly could easily win that game by 10+. GB +9 is a terrible number. That leaves Cincy -1?
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:o

Drew Brees, on grass, lined as a dog as the QB of the New Orleans Saints:

SU: 2-12-0 (-6.43, 14.3%) ATS: 6-7-1 (-2.25, 46.2%) avg line: 4.2 O/U: 7-7-0 (3.04, 50.0%) avg total: 45.4
 
Riversco said:
Don't sleep on the Chargers. You can get good odds on them winning the AFC still. They have won 5 of 6. Let me tell you why they are good play:

1. Their only loss in the last 6 weeks was to the Bengals, but the Chargers had 5 starters out that game and the Chargers OL was shuffled because of the injuries. Even then, the Bengals only won by 7. The Chargers are a LOT healthier now than that game.

2. Ignore the game vs the Chiefs backups. The Chargers play to the level of their competition.

3. If the Chargers beat the Bengals, they play at Denver next. They beat Denver in Denver a few weeks ago, in the worst loss for Denver all year. They dominated them. The Broncos are utterly unable to stop the Chargers rushing attack. The Chargers are built to beat the Broncos.

4. If a potential AFC Championship game, the Chargers will draw either the Colts, Chiefs, or Patriots. The Chargers swept the Chiefs and beat the Colts this year. They did not play the Patriots. So two out of the 3 possibilities are matchups the Chargers have already won this year.

5. The Chargers are 5-2 this year vs playoff teams. That's a very strong record. They have beaten the Broncos, Colts, Eagles, and the Chiefs twice. They also beat the Cowboys.
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SD beat Philly with Vick. They wouldn't beat them with Foles. Hali and Houston were out the 2nd half of their first matchup @KC. They couldn't do anything right in the first half.

The Bengals were 8-0 at home. Hardly see SD going in there and winning that game.

 
ChainsawU said:
We compiled ATS records for the four NFL teams located in the Pacific Time Zone (San Francisco 49ers, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, and Seattle Seahawks) when traveling to play in the Mountain, Central, and Eastern Time Zones.

The table below displays the results, since 2005:

Game Time Zone ATS Record ATS Win RateMountain 22-10 68.8%Central 37-44 45.7%Eastern 44-57 43.6%Interestingly, ATS performance of Pacific Time Zone teams gets progressively worse as they travel further east. Based on these results, we can conclude that West Coast teams don’t meet expectations and therefore “play badly” when traveling to the East Coast. full article
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The 49ers had an 18 game win streak back in the day that included 10 games in the eastern time zone. In other words, if you're good, you're good. :shrug:

 
tjnc09 said:
Riversco said:
Don't sleep on the Chargers. You can get good odds on them winning the AFC still. They have won 5 of 6. Let me tell you why they are good play:

1. Their only loss in the last 6 weeks was to the Bengals, but the Chargers had 5 starters out that game and the Chargers OL was shuffled because of the injuries. Even then, the Bengals only won by 7. The Chargers are a LOT healthier now than that game.

2. Ignore the game vs the Chiefs backups. The Chargers play to the level of their competition.

3. If the Chargers beat the Bengals, they play at Denver next. They beat Denver in Denver a few weeks ago, in the worst loss for Denver all year. They dominated them. The Broncos are utterly unable to stop the Chargers rushing attack. The Chargers are built to beat the Broncos.

4. If a potential AFC Championship game, the Chargers will draw either the Colts, Chiefs, or Patriots. The Chargers swept the Chiefs and beat the Colts this year. They did not play the Patriots. So two out of the 3 possibilities are matchups the Chargers have already won this year.

5. The Chargers are 5-2 this year vs playoff teams. That's a very strong record. They have beaten the Broncos, Colts, Eagles, and the Chiefs twice. They also beat the Cowboys.
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SD beat Philly with Vick. They wouldn't beat them with Foles. Hali and Houston were out the 2nd half of their first matchup @KC. They couldn't do anything right in the first half.

The Bengals were 8-0 at home. Hardly see SD going in there and winning that game.
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This is a healthy Chargers team. The Bengals beat an injured one. If you look at the box score of the first meeting, its just bizarre. The Chargers were pass heavy and barely ran the ball. That is not going to happen this time. The Chargers will be able to run. The Chargers have become a powerful running team.

 
tjnc09 said:
Riversco said:
Don't sleep on the Chargers. You can get good odds on them winning the AFC still. They have won 5 of 6. Let me tell you why they are good play:

1. Their only loss in the last 6 weeks was to the Bengals, but the Chargers had 5 starters out that game and the Chargers OL was shuffled because of the injuries. Even then, the Bengals only won by 7. The Chargers are a LOT healthier now than that game.

2. Ignore the game vs the Chiefs backups. The Chargers play to the level of their competition.

3. If the Chargers beat the Bengals, they play at Denver next. They beat Denver in Denver a few weeks ago, in the worst loss for Denver all year. They dominated them. The Broncos are utterly unable to stop the Chargers rushing attack. The Chargers are built to beat the Broncos.

4. If a potential AFC Championship game, the Chargers will draw either the Colts, Chiefs, or Patriots. The Chargers swept the Chiefs and beat the Colts this year. They did not play the Patriots. So two out of the 3 possibilities are matchups the Chargers have already won this year.

5. The Chargers are 5-2 this year vs playoff teams. That's a very strong record. They have beaten the Broncos, Colts, Eagles, and the Chiefs twice. They also beat the Cowboys.
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SD beat Philly with Vick. They wouldn't beat them with Foles. Hali and Houston were out the 2nd half of their first matchup @KC. They couldn't do anything right in the first half.

The Bengals were 8-0 at home. Hardly see SD going in there and winning that game.
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That San Diego-Philly game is almost a throw away. Maybe there is some value in the SD futures line, but the Philadelphia defense is literally almost completely different, so i am not sure what to take from that game. This San Diego team seems to be scrappy, and have cost me a few times all year (especially this past weekend), but i think i'm in the boat that Cincy rolls over them this coming weekend.

 
Riversco said:
tjnc09 said:
Riversco said:
Don't sleep on the Chargers. You can get good odds on them winning the AFC still. They have won 5 of 6. Let me tell you why they are good play:

1. Their only loss in the last 6 weeks was to the Bengals, but the Chargers had 5 starters out that game and the Chargers OL was shuffled because of the injuries. Even then, the Bengals only won by 7. The Chargers are a LOT healthier now than that game.

2. Ignore the game vs the Chiefs backups. The Chargers play to the level of their competition.

3. If the Chargers beat the Bengals, they play at Denver next. They beat Denver in Denver a few weeks ago, in the worst loss for Denver all year. They dominated them. The Broncos are utterly unable to stop the Chargers rushing attack. The Chargers are built to beat the Broncos.

4. If a potential AFC Championship game, the Chargers will draw either the Colts, Chiefs, or Patriots. The Chargers swept the Chiefs and beat the Colts this year. They did not play the Patriots. So two out of the 3 possibilities are matchups the Chargers have already won this year.

5. The Chargers are 5-2 this year vs playoff teams. That's a very strong record. They have beaten the Broncos, Colts, Eagles, and the Chiefs twice. They also beat the Cowboys.
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SD beat Philly with Vick. They wouldn't beat them with Foles. Hali and Houston were out the 2nd half of their first matchup @KC. They couldn't do anything right in the first half.The Bengals were 8-0 at home. Hardly see SD going in there and winning that game.
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This is a healthy Chargers team. The Bengals beat an injured one. If you look at the box score of the first meeting, its just bizarre. The Chargers were pass heavy and barely ran the ball. That is not going to happen this time. The Chargers will be able to run. The Chargers have become a powerful running team.
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But you are ignoring all of the injuries of the teams they beat? Colts weren't the same without Wayne, They never played KC at full strength in either game, Phil didn't have Foles, etc.

Their win against Denver is certainly of quality but it seems like a lot of biased opinion.

Cincinnati is the biggest favorite this week in Vegas. It will be interesting to see where the line moves.

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Raider Nation said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Why are you ignoring the Chargers almost losing to the JV Chiefs team one day ago?
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They played down to the competition. Maybe you missed that.
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Yeah. That means they suck.A healthy team that sucks? I'll pass putting any money on them.
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The Chargers aren't built to blow teams out. They dominate with the running game. Ryan Mathews average 6 yard per carry on Sunday. 24 carries, 144 yards. I can think of a few teams that have had a lot of playoff success with a dominant ground game.

 
Riversco said:
ChainsawU said:
We compiled ATS records for the four NFL teams located in the Pacific Time Zone (San Francisco 49ers, Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers, and Seattle Seahawks) when traveling to play in the Mountain, Central, and Eastern Time Zones.

The table below displays the results, since 2005:

Game Time Zone ATS Record ATS Win RateMountain 22-10 68.8%Central 37-44 45.7%Eastern 44-57 43.6%Interestingly, ATS performance of Pacific Time Zone teams gets progressively worse as they travel further east. Based on these results, we can conclude that West Coast teams don’t meet expectations and therefore “play badly” when traveling to the East Coast. full article
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The 49ers had an 18 game win streak back in the day that included 10 games in the eastern time zone. In other words, if you're good, you're good. :shrug:
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Keep reading.

 
TJ > The thing that stood out to me about SD versus Denver is that they had to change the offense on a short week after losing Welker.

 
RiversCo > one thing missing from your arguement is Andy Dalton

eta: sorry DD I know he is on your fantasy team

 
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RiversCo > one thing missing from your arguement is Andy Dalton

eta: sorry DD I know he is on your fantasy team
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Seasons over but Dalton actually had some great games down the stretch. I think Bengals are the one team I'm sure will win next week, but lots of Wong to wong on Sunday.

 
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