FFB players should get points for Pitts ST/DEF . (1 Viewer)

[jadams209]

The NFL announced that the TD should have counted at the end of the game and that the officials made a mistake. The NFL could not go back and change the score because the action was "called" in Vegas and as a monopolistic organization they try to sweep everything under the rug. Fantasy Football is obviously not real football and I am thinking that just because the NFL makes such a pathetic error in scoring why should fantasy leagues have to be constrained by them? I think all owners of the Pittsburgh ST/Def should be awarded whatever a fumble and TD equate in their respective league. Also extra point for Jeff Reed. It's not about winning and losing it's about correcting an error and getting the points right, rather then not awarding points because of a "mistake."

J.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Someone get this man a shirt to point at.

 

[facook]

FF is based on official NFL stats. When a call is wrong, the stats reflect the wrong call, but they are still official.

People who own Polamalu, Steelers D, or Reed get the shaft. We've all been cost FF points by blown calls. Deal with it.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Someone get this man a shirt to point at.

But he's not complaining. He just wants to make things right.

 

[Ghost Rider]

FF is based on official NFL stats. When a call is wrong, the stats reflect the wrong call, but they are still official.People who own Polamalu, Steelers D, or Reed get the shaft. We've all been cost FF points by blown calls. Deal with it.

Also, how do we know Reed wouldn't have missed the XP? That is why you cannot give points for things that did not happen or should have happen.

 

[The Jerk]

In week 2, Ed Hochuli admitted he made the wrong call wrt the Jay Cutler fumble he incorrectly ruled an incompletion. On the next play, Cutler tossed a TD to Eddie Royal, followed by a 2-point conversion. Those 8 points earned by Royal (which should never have happened if the officiating is correct) changed a 4-point win for me into a 4-point loss.

You know what I did? I accepted the loss. Mistakes happen. Sometimes they go your way; sometimes they do not.

The best part about Week 2 and now Week 11... this week I played against the Steeler D in that same league. What goes around comes around.

 

[The Jerk]

We should also mention the numerous times that a player is incorrectly called down at the 1-foot line and is not challenged, and also when a player is incorrectly stated to have scored. Instant replay doesn't correct everything -- and today we saw that it in fact introduces mistakes, too.

Polamalu is remarkably good at getting bad replay decisions. At least this time it didn't potentially bring the opponent back into the contest (2005 AFC Div).

 

[Jambi]

I'm looking into a class action lawsuit.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The nerve of the NFL.

 

[jadams209]

I'm looking into a class action lawsuit.

funny, because only an exemption from the Feds keeps the NFL from being a Monopoly.

 

[jadams209]

We all have been screwed by bad plays in FFB. Btw, Thank you "sharks" for pointing that out to me. But the NFL could have gone to an offcial review in the booth instead of just huddling up on the field and causing such confusion. The referee couldn't even explain the debacle at the press conference. When Sports leagues fall in a rut of complacency and do not follow their OWN rules we lose. I could care less about Pittsburgh

 

[Eminence]

On my end, if they hadn't blown the call. I would have lost. It'd be an injustice to take my win away.

 

[bonesman]

I'm looking into a class action lawsuit.

funny, because only an exemption from the Feds keeps the NFL from being a Monopoly.

How so?

 

[The Jerk]

We all have been screwed by bad plays in FFB. Btw, Thank you "sharks" for pointing that out to me.

Your original post certainly does not make that point clear. No need to take it out on us with snide remarks.

But the NFL could have gone to an offcial review in the booth instead of just huddling up on the field and causing such confusion. The referee couldn't even explain the debacle at the press conference. When Sports leagues fall in a rut of complacency and do not follow their OWN rules we lose.

The NFL has made incorrect rulings before, too. It's not because of complacency. It's because the referees are human and therefore fallible. Ironically, an argument could be made that this specific error was due because the league was not complacent enough to just leave the play alone and instead went back and reviewed the call. Call it inaccuracy, misapplication of the rules, or confusion, but it was not complacency.

I could care less about Pittsburgh

Feel free to go ahead and care less.

 

[Das Boot]

Awesome idea.

I'm going to spend tomorrow making a list of all the points my players should have gotten during the games to date if not for bad ref calls.

I'm thinking I can pick up a couple of wins with a little effort.

 

[Das Boot]

Someone get this man a shirt to point at.

 

[jadams209]

We all have been screwed by bad plays in FFB. Btw, Thank you "sharks" for pointing that out to me.

Your original post certainly does not make that point clear. No need to take it out on us with snide remarks.

But the NFL could have gone to an offcial review in the booth instead of just huddling up on the field and causing such confusion. The referee couldn't even explain the debacle at the press conference. When Sports leagues fall in a rut of complacency and do not follow their OWN rules we lose.

The NFL has made incorrect rulings before, too. It's not because of complacency. It's because the referees are human and therefore fallible. Ironically, an argument could be made that this specific error was due because the league was not complacent enough to just leave the play alone and instead went back and reviewed the call. Call it inaccuracy, misapplication of the rules, or confusion, but it was not complacency.

I could care less about Pittsburgh

Feel free to go ahead and care less.

everyone in the shark pool thinks its a game to make the snarkiest remark, and to prove my point just look at ANY other posts. no one wants to think critically. one guy sure was funny but doesnt even know that Federal Law is the only thing keeping all Major sports leagues, including the NFL from being monopolies (and charging the high prices, denying some the NFL network, etc.). And maybe you and i will just have to disagree but complacency is defined as satisfaction with smugness. That's something the NFL has plenty of. It was the end of the game and not a play within the game so there is NO excuse to get the call wrong. They should have taken as long as they needed. Instead they just decided to end the game. Was it just because the game was decided? Would they have gotten the call correct if the game was only tied at that point?

 

[timschochet]

everyone in the shark pool thinks its a game to make the snarkiest remark, and to prove my point just look at ANY other posts. no one wants to think critically. one guy sure was funny but doesnt even know that Federal Law is the only thing keeping all Major sports leagues, including the NFL from being monopolies (and charging the high prices, denying some the NFL network, etc.). And maybe you and i will just have to disagree but complacency is defined as satisfaction with smugness. That's something the NFL has plenty of. It was the end of the game and not a play within the game so there is NO excuse to get the call wrong. They should have taken as long as they needed. Instead they just decided to end the game. Was it just because the game was decided? Would they have gotten the call correct if the game was only tied at that point?

You're perfectly welcome to get together with your own FF league and petition them to intepret scoring differently than the official NFL statistics. Perhaps they will agree with your argument. Personally, I would quit any league that made such arbritary decisions, and if it happened in week 11, I would immediately demand my money back, since I would no longer be certain of the objectivity of scoring. But maybe the people you play with will agree with you.

 

[BobbyLayne]

We all have been screwed by bad plays in FFB. Btw, Thank you "sharks" for pointing that out to me. But the NFL could have gone to an offcial review in the booth instead of just huddling up on the field and causing such confusion. The referee couldn't even explain the debacle at the press conference. When Sports leagues fall in a rut of complacency and do not follow their OWN rules

Spoiler

we lose. I could care less about Pittsburgh

then the terrorists have won.

Anybody got the mp3 of the theme from Patton?

 

[gianmarco]

inevitable

 

[John Facenda]

FF is based on official NFL stats. When a call is wrong, the stats reflect the wrong call, but they are still official.

People who own Polamalu, Steelers D, or Reed get the shaft. We've all been cost FF points by blown calls. Deal with it.

Also, how do we know Reed wouldn't have missed the XP? That is why you cannot give points for things that did not happen or should have happen.

Was there time left on the clock when Polamalu scored? I had assumed that if the extra point made no difference on the outcome, they wouldn't kick. But come to think of it, I did see them line up for the attempt at the end.

 

[The Jerk]

everyone in the shark pool thinks its a game to make the snarkiest remark, and to prove my point just look at ANY other posts. no one wants to think critically. one guy sure was funny but doesnt even know that Federal Law is the only thing keeping all Major sports leagues, including the NFL from being monopolies (and charging the high prices, denying some the NFL network, etc.). And maybe you and i will just have to disagree but complacency is defined as satisfaction with smugness. That's something the NFL has plenty of. It was the end of the game and not a play within the game so there is NO excuse to get the call wrong. They should have taken as long as they needed. Instead they just decided to end the game. Was it just because the game was decided? Would they have gotten the call correct if the game was only tied at that point?

Once again I will point out that if the NFL was self-satisfied (as smugness suggests) then they would likely have not reviewed the play at all. They made a review, which to me shows effort, but then they blew the call. I will certainly not assert they would have gotten it correct if the call had affected the game. The play that always pops in my mind when Polamalu and replay are juxtaposed is the incorrect overturn of his interception in the 2005 AFC Divisional Playoff game at Indy.Here's the thing: as long as football games are played, there will be incorrect calls. Some will be minor, some will be major (like this one). Some will be because of the human element, and some will be due to technology overload. This one could arguably be both.As for "snarkiest remark"... posters invite them when they post something highly illogical and reinforce it when they later demonstrate self-ownership (like when your later post mentions that all FF players have been hurt by missed calls or something to that effect). You seem too smart to seriously expect your "give teams with the Steelers D/ST" idea to ever come to fruition unless it's a one-team league.

 

[The Jerk]

I should also add that the argument for complacency by the NFL would have more merit if the NFL had somehow stonewalled questions concerning the incorrect ruling in this game. Perhaps it was an individual decision by the referee, but in any case the NFL and/or the ref owned up to the mistake very soon after the game. Perhaps that shows just how bad the call was, but again I don't think it demonstrated complacency. Incompetence I'll buy, but not complacency.

 

[FantasyTrader]

We all have been screwed by bad plays in FFB. Btw, Thank you "sharks" for pointing that out to me. But the NFL could have gone to an offcial review in the booth instead of just huddling up on the field and causing such confusion. The referee couldn't even explain the debacle at the press conference. When Sports leagues fall in a rut of complacency and do not follow their OWN rules we lose. I could care less about Pittsburgh

You have a very valid point, but you're a bright person. Surely you can see the can of worms this would open if fantasy leagues began arbitrarily changing points scored based on what woulda, coulda, shoulda been called. Try to step outside of your own situation here (I'm assuming you lost your game because of the botched call) and look at this objectively. We play a game based on actual NFL stats. Be they collected by correct calls or blown calls. Don't give me this, "What's right is right" horsesh**. If it's not in the final stats - that's it.