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Film Study: One play is worth a thousand (or more) words (1 Viewer)

Wildman

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I'm evaluating college players for a publication you might have heard me talk about. I came across something I want to share with you while watching Texas Tech vs. Texas and thought it would just be something that might make good reading for some of you.

It underscores the details that separate a decent prospect from a great one. Details that are really quite fundamental.

Texas Tech as the ball on its opening drive of the game and the situation is a 3rd and 4 pass play. QB Graham Harrell is in the shotgun with three receivers in a bunch formation on the left and a fourth lone receiver on the right side of the field.

During this drive the Texas defense has been giving the Tech offense different looks with every snap. One of the common things they have done is threaten the safety blitz.

The defensive coordinator wants to force Harrell and this quick-strike offense into a bad decision. If he can make Harrell act too quickly, he wins one of two ways: Harrell settles for a shallow route for a minimal gain or he gets enough pressure on Harrell to force a sack or bad throw.

Harrell and the offensive line see the LOLB, the ROLB, and the safety threatening blitz. But well before the snap, the safety drops to a spot where it appears he will have enough time to get good depth in pass coverage if he's not coming for the QB. It's a deeper position than where he blitzed on the play before.

When Harrell takes the snap, he notices the safety making a beeline for the line of scrimmage. A quick decision maker, Harrell immediately looks right to check down to the single receiver running a quick slant. But the ROLB has dropped into a shallow zone and this eliminates the check-down and Harrell has to stop his delivery. To the casual observer it looks like he made a quick pump fake, but he's already in trouble.

As he stops, the left defensive end beats the tackle to the inside and is now a yard from Harrell. The QB sees the DE out of the corner of his eye as he's looking to his left where the slot receiver is running a crossing route with enough depth for the first down.

But Harrell has the DE is close to his throwing arm he has to slide left to avoid the sack. And by the time he avoids the DE and resets his feet to deliver the cross, the left defensive tackle is now at his legs. Harrell doesn't have enough balance to deliver the pass and he has to bring the ball down, taking the sack and forcing a punt on a promising opening drive.

Why didn't the play work? Was it the play call? No. Was it the performance of his receivers? Not at all. In fact, if we're projecting a quarterback for his skills as a pro football player, then we can't even blame the offensive line. He had enough time on this play to complete a pass. It would be the case if he were reviewing this play with an NFL coach. What determined Harrell's (or any quarterback's) success or failure in this situation actually comes down to one properly executed technique: executing a good drop..

Dropping back? Sounds a little too basic, doesn't it? But reading the defense correctly and seeing the field develop cannot happen unless a QB gives himself the room to not only see the field, but also act on what he finds. Here's why a well executed drop would have made all the difference on this play.

A basic three-step drop consists of one long step followed by two shorter crossover steps. The beauty of the shotgun formation is it allows the quarterback more time to see the field develop. It also gives the QB the chance to make the equivalent of a seven-step drop with only a three-step drop. The problem is many quarterbacks in the spread system never make it a point to take those three simple steps. This is where Graham Harrell's play I just described serves as a great example.

Harrell's drop consistent of one short step, and a hop into a set position to throw the ball. The distance he covered upon receiving the snap was the equivalent of an inadequate, 5-step drop. It's possible this was the drop he was instructed to take, but there are two problems with this idea. First, he didn't have enough depth in the pocket to make a quick throw on these routes. Plus there were two other receivers running deeper routes that he had no chance to hit with just a 5-step drop. The actual result of the play I just described speaks to this reason.

If Harrell took a 3-step drop from the shotgun with proper footwork, he would have seen the ROLB drop back before he considered throwing the football and he would have enough time to spot the crossing route from the left. By the time Harrell set his feet to throw the ball, he would have been able to complete a pass with at worst, a defender bearing down on him. At best, he'd have 2-3 yards of distance between himself and the pressure to comfortably complete the throw or at least slide away from the pressure with less urgency. Even that slant play would have developed to a point where the receiver would be past the zone of the ROLB. Instead, his shallow drop - even in the shotgun - forces him to read the slant too early and not have enough depth in the pocket to complete his second read.

Poor footwork is a common problem with many college quarterbacks entering the NFL. Kerry Collins and Matt Hasselbeck are good examples of players who needed to work on this very technique early in their careers. Quarterbacks don't always realize the connection between good footwork and the ability to see the field and gaining the necessary time for routes to develop.

An example of good footwork at the college level is Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. Although Georgia will use a shotgun set, their favorite set is the I-formation - a more demanding formation for a quarterback because it requires he has better timing and anticipation of his routes. He also has to do more to get greater depth in the pocket when under center. Stafford has developed good habits with this drops from both the shotgun and the I-formation. He executed this technique to perfection against LSU's defense which blitzed him frequently this year in their match up. .

Stafford might have a stronger arm and quicker release than Harrell, but it is his ability to get depth in the pocket and afford his receivers more time to develop their routes that made him consistently more effective against more sophisticated blitzes that both will have to handle well if they want to become NFL starters.

It's fascinating how such a small fundamental technique can have such a huge impact on the outcome of a play, isn't it?

 
good read.

As a football coach, this is refreshing to hear others talk about technique and what it means to success or failure.

 
I'm evaluating college players for a publication you might have heard me talk about. I came across something I want to share with you while watching Texas Tech vs. Texas and thought it would just be something that might make good reading for some of you. It underscores the details that separate a decent prospect from a great one. Details that are really quite fundamental. Texas Tech as the ball on its opening drive of the game and the situation is a 3rd and 4 pass play. QB Graham Harrell is in the shotgun with three receivers in a bunch formation on the left and a fourth lone receiver on the right side of the field.During this drive the Texas defense has been giving the Tech offense different looks with every snap. One of the common things they have done is threaten the safety blitz.The defensive coordinator wants to force Harrell and this quick-strike offense into a bad decision. If he can make Harrell act too quickly, he wins one of two ways: Harrell settles for a shallow route for a minimal gain or he gets enough pressure on Harrell to force a sack or bad throw.Harrell and the offensive line see the LOLB, the ROLB, and the safety threatening blitz. But well before the snap, the safety drops to a spot where it appears he will have enough time to get good depth in pass coverage if he's not coming for the QB. It's a deeper position than where he blitzed on the play before.When Harrell takes the snap, he notices the safety making a beeline for the line of scrimmage. A quick decision maker, Harrell immediately looks right to check down to the single receiver running a quick slant. But the ROLB has dropped into a shallow zone and this eliminates the check-down and Harrell has to stop his delivery. To the casual observer it looks like he made a quick pump fake, but he's already in trouble.As he stops, the left defensive end beats the tackle to the inside and is now a yard from Harrell. The QB sees the DE out of the corner of his eye as he's looking to his left where the slot receiver is running a crossing route with enough depth for the first down.But Harrell has the DE is close to his throwing arm he has to slide left to avoid the sack. And by the time he avoids the DE and resets his feet to deliver the cross, the left defensive tackle is now at his legs. Harrell doesn't have enough balance to deliver the pass and he has to bring the ball down, taking the sack and forcing a punt on a promising opening drive.Why didn't the play work? Was it the play call? No. Was it the performance of his receivers? Not at all. In fact, if we're projecting a quarterback for his skills as a pro football player, then we can't even blame the offensive line. He had enough time on this play to complete a pass. It would be the case if he were reviewing this play with an NFL coach. What determined Harrell's (or any quarterback's) success or failure in this situation actually comes down to one properly executed technique: executing a good drop..Dropping back? Sounds a little too basic, doesn't it? But reading the defense correctly and seeing the field develop cannot happen unless a QB gives himself the room to not only see the field, but also act on what he finds. Here's why a well executed drop would have made all the difference on this play.A basic three-step drop consists of one long step followed by two shorter crossover steps. The beauty of the shotgun formation is it allows the quarterback more time to see the field develop. It also gives the QB the chance to make the equivalent of a seven-step drop with only a three-step drop. The problem is many quarterbacks in the spread system never make it a point to take those three simple steps. This is where Graham Harrell's play I just described serves as a great example.Harrell's drop consistent of one short step, and a hop into a set position to throw the ball. The distance he covered upon receiving the snap was the equivalent of an inadequate, 5-step drop. It's possible this was the drop he was instructed to take, but there are two problems with this idea. First, he didn't have enough depth in the pocket to make a quick throw on these routes. Plus there were two other receivers running deeper routes that he had no chance to hit with just a 5-step drop. The actual result of the play I just described speaks to this reason.If Harrell took a 3-step drop from the shotgun with proper footwork, he would have seen the ROLB drop back before he considered throwing the football and he would have enough time to spot the crossing route from the left. By the time Harrell set his feet to throw the ball, he would have been able to complete a pass with at worst, a defender bearing down on him. At best, he'd have 2-3 yards of distance between himself and the pressure to comfortably complete the throw or at least slide away from the pressure with less urgency. Even that slant play would have developed to a point where the receiver would be past the zone of the ROLB. Instead, his shallow drop - even in the shotgun - forces him to read the slant too early and not have enough depth in the pocket to complete his second read.Poor footwork is a common problem with many college quarterbacks entering the NFL. Kerry Collins and Matt Hasselbeck are good examples of players who needed to work on this very technique early in their careers. Quarterbacks don't always realize the connection between good footwork and the ability to see the field and gaining the necessary time for routes to develop.An example of good footwork at the college level is Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford. Although Georgia will use a shotgun set, their favorite set is the I-formation - a more demanding formation for a quarterback because it requires he has better timing and anticipation of his routes. He also has to do more to get greater depth in the pocket when under center. Stafford has developed good habits with this drops from both the shotgun and the I-formation. He executed this technique to perfection against LSU's defense which blitzed him frequently this year in their match up. .Stafford might have a stronger arm and quicker release than Harrell, but it is his ability to get depth in the pocket and afford his receivers more time to develop their routes that made him consistently more effective against more sophisticated blitzes that both will have to handle well if they want to become NFL starters.It's fascinating how such a small fundamental technique can have such a huge impact on the outcome of a play, isn't it?
Now I am not bringing this up just for the sake of arguing. However, you are wrong.A Traditional 3 step drop can be taken one of two ways from under center. Either a large first step and two quick ones to set up or three average steps with the QB being under control and balance the entire time(Depends on your system to be honest).Now out of the shotgun, this is not what you want. If you want to take a 3 step drop(which equates normally from 4 to 5 yards depending on the QB's athletism/size/ and again the 3 step drop system) then your QB will be what 8-10 yards deep in the backfield. That gives the DE's a much easier path/angle to the QB. Vs the QB taking a one step drop out of the shotgun...then he is 5 yards deep with the pocket forming around him.I also agree that the ability to process information quickly....defense...blitz....coverage...release of Wr...etc is what seperates the good Qb's from the Great ones (I discussed this with a former UCLA OC). However from your description....Harrell did some good things on the play. He didn't throw into the initial slant, avoided the rush, didn't throw off balance and try to make a play....just took the sack vs fumble/INT.
 
Now I am not bringing this up just for the sake of arguing. However, you are wrong.A Traditional 3 step drop can be taken one of two ways from under center. Either a large first step and two quick ones to set up or three average steps with the QB being under control and balance the entire time(Depends on your system to be honest).Now out of the shotgun, this is not what you want. If you want to take a 3 step drop(which equates normally from 4 to 5 yards depending on the QB's athletism/size/ and again the 3 step drop system) then your QB will be what 8-10 yards deep in the backfield. That gives the DE's a much easier path/angle to the QB. Vs the QB taking a one step drop out of the shotgun...then he is 5 yards deep with the pocket forming around him.I also agree that the ability to process information quickly....defense...blitz....coverage...release of Wr...etc is what seperates the good Qb's from the Great ones (I discussed this with a former UCLA OC). However from your description....Harrell did some good things on the play. He didn't throw into the initial slant, avoided the rush, didn't throw off balance and try to make a play....just took the sack vs fumble/INT.
Harrell absolutely did good things on the play and it's a good point you make about the angle a DE can take and how far back Harrell would be in the backfield, because he was actually close to 8 yards deep after his drop (which by the way wasn't three average steps under control and balance. It was more of a very small step and a hop). What I find interesting is when I compare this with the tape from the UGA-LSU game where Stafford takes a traditional three step drop from the shotgun against a very similar blitz (1 safety and an LB coming up the middle), he gets more depth but he also has time to step up and avoid the DE's angle while being in rhythm to make the throw. He did this at least three times in the LSU game under pretty heavy pressure and completed big passes on these plays. I appreciate you pointing out where you think I'm wrong, but I guess my follow up question is: "why would Georgia teach their QB to drop this way and both their OC and head coach are former QBs?"
 
Now I am not bringing this up just for the sake of arguing. However, you are wrong.A Traditional 3 step drop can be taken one of two ways from under center. Either a large first step and two quick ones to set up or three average steps with the QB being under control and balance the entire time(Depends on your system to be honest).Now out of the shotgun, this is not what you want. If you want to take a 3 step drop(which equates normally from 4 to 5 yards depending on the QB's athletism/size/ and again the 3 step drop system) then your QB will be what 8-10 yards deep in the backfield. That gives the DE's a much easier path/angle to the QB. Vs the QB taking a one step drop out of the shotgun...then he is 5 yards deep with the pocket forming around him.I also agree that the ability to process information quickly....defense...blitz....coverage...release of Wr...etc is what seperates the good Qb's from the Great ones (I discussed this with a former UCLA OC). However from your description....Harrell did some good things on the play. He didn't throw into the initial slant, avoided the rush, didn't throw off balance and try to make a play....just took the sack vs fumble/INT.
Harrell absolutely did good things on the play and it's a good point you make about the angle a DE can take and how far back Harrell would be in the backfield, because he was actually close to 8 yards deep after his drop (which by the way wasn't three average steps under control and balance. It was more of a very small step and a hop). What I find interesting is when I compare this with the tape from the UGA-LSU game where Stafford takes a traditional three step drop from the shotgun against a very similar blitz (1 safety and an LB coming up the middle), he gets more depth but he also has time to step up and avoid the DE's angle while being in rhythm to make the throw. He did this at least three times in the LSU game under pretty heavy pressure and completed big passes on these plays. I appreciate you pointing out where you think I'm wrong, but I guess my follow up question is: "why would Georgia teach their QB to drop this way and both their OC and head coach are former QBs?"
You answered the question yourself. Their are so many different drops....you have your 1,3,5,7....then you have a 3 and pause, 5 and pause...etc....then you have 5 and hitch..7 and hitch.Now if the 3 step is used out of shotgun....then the QB must step up in the pocket(if pressured). I just prefer the 1 hop....b/c the QB can throw the ball at any point vs waiting to complete the drop.It can be run many different ways....just many of the offenses i've been around have been this way. I guess its just preference....kind of like this scramble drill that I picked up from Charlie Weis....is kinda different....but i think it makes an QB more effective.Funny side note...I actually have talked to Mike Bobo before and shook Riecht's hand...not that they remember me at all...lol.
 
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LOL...about Richt and Bobo!

Are you an Athens resident? Or did you meet them elsewhere?

I guess another point about the 2-step drop taught for the shotgun or an even step drop is that it often keeps the QBs weight distribution moving backward and takes more time for him to redistribute his weight forward, doesn't it?

It sounds to me like this is an area that two coaches could have different viewpoints on the technique they prefer because it could be argued the crossover step promotes better rhythm in terms of timing and weight distribution, but the other technique can make you more ready to sling the ball on a quick situation.

It seems the play I chose shows a failing of this technique in terms of Harrell unable to make a throw because of his weight still being distributed backward rather than forward (of course, he made a good decision not to throw it). At the same time, teaching someone to drop from the shotgun could also mean they have to step up in the face of outside pressure as you rightly brought up.

So yeah, you're right. Harrell didn't have bad technique. Maybe it's more that the technique he learned didn't work for that situation as well as a technique Stafford used actually did. Am I making a decent point?

 
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Now I am not bringing this up just for the sake of arguing. However, you are wrong.A Traditional 3 step drop can be taken one of two ways from under center. Either a large first step and two quick ones to set up or three average steps with the QB being under control and balance the entire time(Depends on your system to be honest).Now out of the shotgun, this is not what you want. If you want to take a 3 step drop(which equates normally from 4 to 5 yards depending on the QB's athletism/size/ and again the 3 step drop system) then your QB will be what 8-10 yards deep in the backfield. That gives the DE's a much easier path/angle to the QB. Vs the QB taking a one step drop out of the shotgun...then he is 5 yards deep with the pocket forming around him.I also agree that the ability to process information quickly....defense...blitz....coverage...release of Wr...etc is what seperates the good Qb's from the Great ones (I discussed this with a former UCLA OC). However from your description....Harrell did some good things on the play. He didn't throw into the initial slant, avoided the rush, didn't throw off balance and try to make a play....just took the sack vs fumble/INT.
Harrell absolutely did good things on the play and it's a good point you make about the angle a DE can take and how far back Harrell would be in the backfield, because he was actually close to 8 yards deep after his drop (which by the way wasn't three average steps under control and balance. It was more of a very small step and a hop). What I find interesting is when I compare this with the tape from the UGA-LSU game where Stafford takes a traditional three step drop from the shotgun against a very similar blitz (1 safety and an LB coming up the middle), he gets more depth but he also has time to step up and avoid the DE's angle while being in rhythm to make the throw. He did this at least three times in the LSU game under pretty heavy pressure and completed big passes on these plays. I appreciate you pointing out where you think I'm wrong, but I guess my follow up question is: "why would Georgia teach their QB to drop this way and both their OC and head coach are former QBs?"
You answered the question yourself. Their are so many different drops....you have your 1,3,5,7....then you have a 3 and pause, 5 and pause...etc....then you have 5 and hitch..7 and hitch.Now if the 3 step is used out of shotgun....then the QB must step up in the pocket(if pressured). I just prefer the 1 hop....b/c the QB can throw the ball at any point vs waiting to complete the drop.It can be run many different ways....just many of the offenses i've been around have been this way. I guess its just preference....kind of like this scramble drill that I picked up from Charlie Weis....is kinda different....but i think it makes an QB more effective.Funny side note...I actually have talked to Mike Bobo before and shook Riecht's hand...not that they remember me at all...lol.
LOOK AT ME! I shook a famous (?) person's hand!!!!
 
One more thing before I return to watching this game for the rest of the day.

On the next series, Harrell takes a 3-step drop (even steps as Alma's 4th Child describes) out of the shot gun and is 9 yards behind the LOS when he finishes. There's about five yards distance between him and the RDE who is coming free, but as mentioned in the discussion above, the LDE has a very good angle to the QB as he's getting free from the LT. Harrell is looking to his left as he finishes his drop but senses the pressure and takes two crossover steps to his right and releases the ball off his back foot and completes a pass that travels 20 yards downfield to his WR coming back to help his QB.

The depth in the pocket seemed to help him have time to look left, and then move away from the pressure to the right and throw without anyone in his face.

So while I see the points about the deep drop from the shotgun, I think I'm a proponent of taking the deeper drop and having room to slide in the pocket.

Thanks for the discussion though, great points and I continue to learn new things as I bring up examples like this.

 
Great work Wildman! Glad to hear that you're watching tape. Hope to see you on these boards more often now that the season is over.

 
Great work Wildman! Glad to hear that you're watching tape. Hope to see you on these boards more often now that the season is over.
I think it's safe to say that I'll be here a little more often than I have in the past. Although right now, I feel I'm wasting a bit of time right now after a week of intense film study. Here's who I have watched this week (60% of them...the rest during the FF season). Some of the names I'm drawing a blank because I have literally been spending about 18 hours a day on my vacation doing this. I'll slow down to a 30-40 hour per week pace when the day job starts up again but I like to capitalize on the free time now that FF is over and I don't have to work for a little more than a week. QBsGraham HarrellMatt StaffordSam BradfordCullen HarperChase ClementTom BrandstaterPat WhiteMike TeelLouisville's QB (mind blank on name)Todd Reesing (Kansas QB - mind blank possible)Nate LongshoreChase DanielTim TebowRBsJames DavisC.J. SpillerCharles ScottKeiland WilliamsAaron BrownJavon RingerIan JohnsonKnowshon MarinoAntone SmithBarron BatchShannon WoodsDonald Brown (staying in school)DeMyron MartinBrock Bolen Jeremiah JohnsonJovorskie LaneBrad LesterChris WellsMarlon LuckyC. OgbannayaTony Gerhart (junior to watch in 10)Tony KimbleWRsMichael CrabtreeMohammed MassaquoiMarko MitchellWalter BryantVinny PerrettaDemetrius ByrdD. JollahManuel JohnsonJ. IglesiasQ. ChaneyDez Bryant (he's probably staying, but I couldn't pass up the chance)Brian RobiskieRashad WardRoss Lane Brian PetermanEric MorrisJordan ShipleyNate SwiftTodd PetersonDanario AlexanderJeremy MaclinTaurus JohnsonPreston ParkerAaron KellyTyler GrishamSeyi AjirotutuMarcus EdwardsKerry MeierBrandon TateHakeem NicksTiquan UnderwoodKenny BrittTerrence ScottJaison WilliamsJarret DillardShane MoralesSammie StrougherTERory NicolBear PascoeCedric HillChase CoffmanJermaine GreshamBrandon PettigrewKevin BrockRobbie AgnoneCornelius IngramI'll be dropping observations here and there between now and April :lmao:
 
Louisville QB is Hunter Cantwell and you have the KU QB correct.

How about adding Curtis Painter, Willie Tuitama, Rhett Bomar and Drew Willy to your QB list? And Andre Brown, Devin Moore, Cedric Peerman, Kory Sheets, Marlon Lucky, and Tyrell Sutton to your RB list? And Derrick Williams, Louis Murphy, Brandon Gibson, and JaMarko Simmons to your WR list? :blackdot:

 
Louisville QB is Hunter Cantwell and you have the KU QB correct.

How about adding Curtis Painter, Willie Tuitama, Rhett Bomar and Drew Willy to your QB list? And Andre Brown, Devin Moore, Cedric Peerman, Kory Sheets, Marlon Lucky, and Tyrell Sutton to your RB list? And Derrick Williams, Louis Murphy, Brandon Gibson, and JaMarko Simmons to your WR list? :wall:
The guys in bold I am scheduled to watch. The non-bolded guys I'll see if I have games. I have taped (thus far) 150 games and that doesn't include the bowl games I taping right now and the few hundred I have recorded from 2005-2007. The list I provided is only who I have watched. It's about 55%-60% of who I will watch and evaluate. I try for at least 2-3 games per player, although some (10% of the total probably) I'll only be able to watch one due to lack of games.

 
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Louisville QB is Hunter Cantwell and you have the KU QB correct.

How about adding Curtis Painter, Willie Tuitama, Rhett Bomar and Drew Willy to your QB list? And Andre Brown, Devin Moore, Cedric Peerman, Kory Sheets, Marlon Lucky, and Tyrell Sutton to your RB list? And Derrick Williams, Louis Murphy, Brandon Gibson, and JaMarko Simmons to your WR list? :wall:
The guys in bold I am scheduled to watch. The non-bolded guys I'll see if I have games. I have taped (thus far) 150 games and that doesn't include the bowl games I taping right now and the few hundred I have recorded from 2005-2007. The list I provided is only who I have watched. It's about 55%-60% of who I will watch and evaluate. I try for at least 2-3 games per player, although some (10% of the total probably) I'll only be able to watch one due to lack of games.
Awesome. Love reading your work and the spring can't get here fast enough. :goodposting:
 
Dez Bryant (he's probably staying, but I couldn't pass up the chance)
Woah woah Woah WOAH!Probably? He's a true sophomore, right? He's definitely back (as definite as anyone can be)? Right? Right?!!
Doug, honestly I never really follow it until there's an official word so probably no worries here. He was just someone I heard too many good things about not to watch when I checked out the OSU-OU game and I wasn't disappointed. Btw - that kick return by Cox was unbelievable and it was fun to see Bryant hustling the entire length of the field to try to do his part.
 
Matt - what about reviewin LeShon McCoy and Shonn Greene? I think many will be looking for your thoughts on those players in the RSP.

And I'm really curious about your thoughts on Spiller after Chris Johnson's performance this year. I know you weren't that high on him in the RSP.

BTW, kudos to you on last year's RSP. You hit on Forte, Rice, and Kevin Smith (even though it took him a while to get rolling).

 
Thanks - you know, it's a big learning experience for me each year but I think it's the way the evaluations that are reported that at least give someone a clear picture of what I see.

If McCoy and Greene come out, they will definitely be reviewed. I have games queued up and ready to watch if it's announced.

I wasn't that high on Johnson. I really liked that he demonstrated balance and would bounce of hits but I had him as a guy that could produce as potential all-purpose back later in his career. I really didn't expect him to do it this quickly and I was disappointed the Titans drafted him over a receiver. So far, I'm happy I was wrong about Johnson taking time to adjust.

I still think Rice is very good, but may need to adjust to the speed of the game a bit more. The Ravens o-line was decent this year but they have turned over some players and I think a straight ahead power game helps them a bit more than what Rice has to offer. I thought DeAngelo Williams was the second-best back in the 2006 class and now that he has an o-line and gained experience, I think he's proving he's a fine player. I'm thinking Rice may need that same season or two.

I knew Forte was special from that LSU game I watched with him. His stats absolutely stunk, but what he did against that defense to just gain some positive yardage I could see him in an NFL backfield as a starter, easily. When I watch a player and I can't wait to finish writing and rewinding plays so I can watch it in real time all over again that player tends to be a good one - especially an RB. Forte was one of those guys.

I think Kevin Smith fared well considering the circumstances. I think most people envisioned the Lions to be a 6-7 win team with a good offense. So when you think about Smith in that context, I think he was a success once he got going (as you said).

I have fully evaluated one Spiller game thus far. I want to hold off on commenting until I've seen at least 1-2 more because the contest I saw was the FSU game and I think I need a better sample of carries from him. I've seen him before this game, but I find that I learn much more when I break down a game.

Early thoughts (and very brief comments)

Matt Stafford isn't all arm and no brain - watch the LSU game...

Sam Bradford isn't far behind if additional games I watch with these guys pan out...

If you could play Dr. Frankenstein with Knowshown Moreno and Charles Scott and combine them, Arlen Specter might try to investigate some sort of unfairness issue within the NFL...

I'm wondering just how fast/slow/quick RB DeMyron Martin of SMU is..he intrigues me as a late round guy.

Not sure there's an all-around athletic stud at TE other than Beckum, but I think 2-3 of them have the skills to be solid starters and be less disappointing than some of these H-back types it has been easy to be enamored with...

Back to work...I could be here all day and I have pretty much been today :lmao:

Guess I needed a slack day. I still plan to watch Stafford's disaster vs. Florida in the next 24 hours and I haven't finished this second or third go-round with the Texas Tech offense.

 

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