First 10 Rounds Complete of FBG Draft (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

1 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

2 Rudnicki - QB Peyton Manning

3 Rush - RB Shaun Alexander

4 Family Matters - QB Dante Cullpepper

5 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber

6 Radballs - RB Edgerrin James

7 Federal - RB Priest Holmes

8 Motown - RB Domanick Davis

9 rzrback77 - RB Ahman Green

10 Twilight - RB Jamal Lewis

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

14 Colin - RB Clinton Portis

15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.02 Fiddles -- RB Thomas Jones

2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss

2.04 ShadowFax -- RB Rudi Johnson

2.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Fred Taylor

2.06 Duke1948 --WR Terrell Owens

2.07 Twilight -- QB Donovan McNabb

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.09 Motown -- RB Brian Westbrook

2.10 Federal -- RB Steven Jackson

2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown

2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs

2.13 Fam Matters - RB Tatum Bell

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

2.16 F. Fro -- QB Trent Green

3.01 Fullback Fro -- QB Michael Vick

3.02 Rudnicki -- RB Warrick Dunn

3.03 Rush -- WR Torry Holt

3.04 Family Matters -- WR Chad Johnson

3.05 LHUCKS -- WR Marvin Harrison

3.06 Radballs -- WR Javon Walker

3.07 Federal -- TE Antonio Gates

3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett

3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.11 Duke1948 -- RB Travis Henry

3.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Marc Bulger

3.13 ShadowFax -- QB Tom Brady

3.14 Colin -- WR Joe Horn

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

3.16 ACP -- TE Todd Heap

4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer

4.02 Fiddles -- WR Reggie Wayne

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson

4.06 Duke1948 -- QB Matt Hasselbeck

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

4.08 rzrback -- QB Aaron Brooks

4.09 Motown -- QB Drew Brees

4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward

4.11 Radballs -- WR Isaac Bruce

4.12 LHUCKS -- TE Jason W(h)itten

4.13 Fam Matters - RB Duce Staley

4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith

4.15 Rudnicki -- RB Carnell Williams

4.16 Fullback Fro -- RB Larry Johnson

5.01 Fullback Fro -- RB TJ Duckett

5.02 Rudnicki -- WR Derrick Mason

5.03 Rush -- QB Brett Favre

5.04 Family Matters -- TE Jeremy Shockey

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.06 Radballs -- QB Byron Leftwich

5.07 Federal -- WR Ashley Lelie

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds

5.10 Twilight -- QBCarson Palmer

5.11 Duke1948 -- QB Chad Pennington

5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger

5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins

5.14 Colin -- QB Brian Griese

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson

6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin

6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers

6.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Drew Bennett

6.06 Duke1948 -- WR Laverneus Coles

6.07 Twilight -- WR Santana Moss

6.08 rzrback -- WR Muhsin Muhammad

6.09 Motown -- TE Alge Crumpler

6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning

6.11 Radballs -- TE Kellen Winslow

6.12 LHUCKS -- WR Plaxico Burress

6.13 Family Matters - WR Donald Driver

6.14 Rush -- TE Randy McMichael

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

6.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Jimmy Smith

7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter

7.02 Rudnicki -- WR Rod Smith

7.03 Rush -- QB Joey Harrington

7.04 Family Matters -- QB Patrick Ramsey

7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe

7.06 Radballs -- RB Marshall Faulk

7.07 Federal -- QB Rex Grossman

7.08 Motown -- WR Eddie Kennison

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.10 Twilight -- RB Derrick Blaylock

7.11 Duke1948 -- RB Lamont Jordan

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

7.13 ShadowFax -- TE Eric Johnson

7.14 Colin -- TE Dallas Clark TE10

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

7.16 ACP -- WR Brandon Stokely

8.01 ACP -- QB Kyle Boller QB27

8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers

8.03 Colin -- RB Chris Perry

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.06 Duke1948 -- DEF New England Patriots

8.07 Twilight -- WR Antonio Bryant

8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins

8.09 Motown -- WR Koren Robinson

8.10 Federal -- RB Marcel Shipp

8.11 Radballs -- WR Deion Branch

8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green RB45

8.13 Family Matters - WR Keenan McCardell

8.14 Rush -- RB Correll Buckhalter

8.15 Rudnicki -- WR KEyshaun Johnson

8.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Donte Stallworth

9.01 Fullback Fro -- TE Jermaine Wiggins

9.02 Rudnicki -- WR David Givens

9.03 Rush -- WR Peerless Price

9.04 Family Matters -- WR Keary Colbert

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer

9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston

9.08 Motown -- RB Dominic Rhodes

9.09 rzrback77 -- WR Braylon Edwards

9.10 Twilight -- WR Tyrone Calico

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

9.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Mike Williams

9.13 ShadowFax -- RB Najeh Davenport

9.14 Colin -- RB Nick Goings

9.15 Fiddles -- WR Kevin Curtis

9.16 ACP -- RB Kevin Faulk

10.01 ACP -- WR Rod Gardner

10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe

10.03 Colin -- WR Peter Warrick WR56

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

10.05 WannabeCowboy -- TE Jeb Putzier

10.06 Duke1948 -- TE Daniel Graham TE14

10.07 Twilight -- RB Mewelde Moore RB53

10.08 rzrback -- QB Josh McCown

10.09 Motown -- QB Billy Volek QB29

10.10 Federal -- WR David Terrell

10.11 Radballs -- Def Baltimore

10.12 LHUCKS -- WR Terry Glenn

10.13 Family Matters - RB Maurice Morris

10.14 Rush -- WR Joey Galloway

10.15 Rudnicki -- RB Chester Taylor

10.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Eric Parker



I'll add rules and link to the live draft later.

 

[JAA]

 

[LHUCKS]

Rules:

The rules and scoring:20 rounds of draftingNo trading of picksNo trading of playersNo free agent pick upsSerpentine drafting.No submission of rosters. Each week 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK and 1 Def/ST will be maximized for your weekly score.Player Scoringassing TDs = 6 ptsRushing/receiving TDs = 6 pts1 pt per 20 yards passing1 pt per 10 yards rushing/receiving1 pt per reception (QB/RB/WR)2 pt per reception (TE)Kicker Scoring:3 pts per FG1 pt per EPDefense Scoringoints Allowed0 = 5 points1-6 = 3 points7-13 = 1 point14+ = 0 pointsTotal Yards Allowed0-199 = 5 points200-249 = 3 points250-299 = 1 point300+ = 0 pointsSack = 1 pointINT/Fumble Recovery = 2 pointsSafety = 2 pointsTD (inc. ST) = 6 pointsLow Score each week for first 13 weeks is booted off. High score gets amnesty for next week. Scores reset each week.Once there are 3 teams left, there will be no more amnesty.For weeks 14-end of the season, 1 team will be lost every two weeks.

 

[Colin Dowling]

 

[bostonfred]

Culpepper was a good pick.

 

[10993]

I woulda smoked LHUCKS in this

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Who's got the 2nd best team so far?

 

[10993]

Colin's team is definitely the best right now.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Colin's team is definitely the best right now.

You're probably right, if only he had a starting QB

 

[EBF]

1 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss

2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer

10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe

10.09 Motown -- QB Billy Volek QB29

^ good picks

 

[10993]

Colin's team is definitely the best right now.

Fro has the second best. Twilight and Duke look alright too.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

1 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss

2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer

10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe

10.09 Motown -- QB Billy Volek QB29

^ good picks

Hey EBF, what up?Are you saying LHUCKS has no good picks?

 

[EBF]

1 Fullback Fro  - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss

2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer

10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe

10.09 Motown --  QB Billy Volek QB29

^ good picks

Hey EBF, what up?Are you saying LHUCKS has no good picks?

Hey. I didn't see any that stood out. Next up are the bad picks.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I didn't see any that stood out. Next up are the bad picks.

 

[10993]

1 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

9 rzrback77 - RB Ahman Green

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

2.13 Fam Matters - RB Tatum Bell

3.11 Duke1948 -- RB Travis Henry

3.16 ACP -- TE Todd Heap

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

4.16 Fullback Fro -- RB Larry Johnson

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.10 Twilight -- QBCarson Palmer

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

7.14 Colin -- TE Dallas Clark TE10

8.13 Family Matters - WR Keenan McCardell

8.14 Rush -- RB Correll Buckhalter

9.09 rzrback77 -- WR Braylon Edwards

9.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Mike Williams

10.13 Family Matters - RB Maurice Morris

These are the really good picks so far ^^^Also, there's one pick who's floating out there and would be great in the last two rounds, I can't believe you guys have left him hanging.

 

[EBF]

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green RB45

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

^ bad picks

 

[LHUCKS]

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green RB45

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

^ bad picks

Green was a reach...admittedly, but needed to handcuff Suggs for survivor purposes.Thomas...get off the crackpipe

McNair....my sleeper QB pick of 2005.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think the top rookies will obviously move up in their ADP come Survivor and MBsl's.The more I think of it, the more i think Rudnicki got a steal in Benson and Colin with Brown.I also thought the rookie WR's going deep in the 9th were pretty solid.As you could imagine, drafting now is a little different than drafting when you have a better feel for who's going to start for most of the teams. So obviously, guys you think are going to start at certain positions are rated a lot higher, even guys like Kyle Boeller and Ben Rothlisberger.

 

[10993]

5 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber

7 Federal - RB Priest Holmes

15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones

2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett

3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow

4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer

4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson

4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward

4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith

5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds

5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger

5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins

6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers

6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning

7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins

Here's the bad picks ^^^^Some are bad because of where the player was picked, some because a better player at that position went immediately or short after.

Also, add Duke's pick of Lamont Jordan to the "Good" pile.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

6.02 Fiddles --  WR Nate Burleson

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.12 LHUCKS --  RB William Green RB45

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.07 Federal --  WR David Boston 

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

^ bad picks

I've taken heat for DAvis, and really could hurt me as I feel the rest of my picks are very good. If Davis happens to play, which an article I read on the blogger says he plans on doing, I'll be fine.By the way, we're having 20 rounds of drafting compared to 17 in the other survivor leagues because of the lack of knowledge in regards to bye weeks.

 

[LHUCKS]

5 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber

7 Federal - RB Priest Holmes

15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones

2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett

3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow

4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer

4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson

4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward

4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith

5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds

5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger

5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins

6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers

6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning

7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins

Here's the bad picks ^^^^Some are bad because of where the player was picked, some because a better player at that position went immediately or short after.

Also, add Duke's pick of Lamont Jordan to the "Good" pile.

These are definitely my two most controversial picks, but bear in mind this is a 16 round survivor and reaches are mandatory in certain situations. You could argue that any of the QBs taken in rounds 5-10 are a reach.

 

[LHUCKS]

I think the top rookies will obviously move up in their ADP come Survivor and MBsl's.The more I think of it, the more i think Rudnicki got a steal in Benson and Colin with Brown.I also thought the rookie WR's going deep in the 9th were pretty solid.As you could imagine, drafting now is a little different than drafting when you have a better feel for who's going to start for most of the teams. So obviously, guys you think are going to start at certain positions are rated a lot higher, even guys like Kyle Boeller and Ben Rothlisberger.

Rookies can really hurt you in the beginning of the season though...too risky for my blood, but they obviously have a chance to outperform their draft positions.

 

[EBF]

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

6.02 Fiddles --  WR Nate Burleson

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.12 LHUCKS --  RB William Green RB45

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.07 Federal --  WR David Boston 

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

^ bad picks

Green was a reach...admittedly, but needed to handcuff Suggs for survivor purposes.Thomas...get off the crackpipe

McNair....my sleeper QB pick of 2005.

McNair might not even play next year. I don't think he was worth that high of a pick.Anthony Thomas is a marginally talented backup. I think you could've gotten one of those later in the draft.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

5 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber

7 Federal - RB Priest Holmes

15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones

2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett

3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow

4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer

4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson

4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward

4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith

5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds

5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger

5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins

6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers

6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning

7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins

Here's the bad picks ^^^^Some are bad because of where the player was picked, some because a better player at that position went immediately or short after.

Also, add Duke's pick of Lamont Jordan to the "Good" pile.

Mr. Harrier,Please explain why you think Darell Jackson is a bad pick at 4.05. The next 3 receivers after him were Hines Ward, Isaac Bruce, and Derek Mason. With K-Rob probably leaving Seattle next year, I think D'Jax easily outperforms this group.

Also, with Big Ben, keep in mind for sure starters for the following year is slim and in a 16 team league, they get gobbled up quickly. Sure he didn't look good last week, but his hand isn't right IMO. He'll have some solid games next year. He was the offensive ROY as a QB, I believe the only guy to ever do that, I'll take my chances.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I think the top rookies will obviously move up in their ADP come Survivor and MBsl's.The more I think of it, the more i think Rudnicki got a steal in Benson and Colin with Brown.I also thought the rookie WR's going deep in the 9th were pretty solid.As you could imagine, drafting now is a little different than drafting when you have a better feel for who's going to start for most of the teams. So obviously, guys you think are going to start at certain positions are rated a lot higher, even guys like Kyle Boeller and Ben Rothlisberger.

Rookies can really hurt you in the beginning of the season though...too risky for my blood, but they obviously have a chance to outperform their draft positions.

Yep definately........but he's my wr4, if I drafted correctly, I should have bought him that time.

 

[Fullback Fro]

I managed to stay off everyone's bad list even though I think that some may think I reached on my 2nd and third round picks. The fact of the matter is at the time I could not afford to be on the end of a QB run and felt that I could start one rather than become beholden to one. Other than that I think I have found value where value was and am liking my team as it developes.vick, greentomlinson, TJ, LJporter, j smith, stallworth, parkerwiggins, cooley

 

[LHUCKS]

16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon

2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin

2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez

2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman

2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson

3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams

3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme

5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair

5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr

5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis

6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson

7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns

7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh

8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis

8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green RB45

9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas

9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston

9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt

10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith

^ bad picks

Green was a reach...admittedly, but needed to handcuff Suggs for survivor purposes.Thomas...get off the crackpipe

McNair....my sleeper QB pick of 2005.

McNair might not even play next year. I don't think he was worth that high of a pick.Anthony Thomas is a marginally talented backup. I think you could've gotten one of those later in the draft.

A) Yes McNair was risky, but I like his chances of coming backB) A-Train could very well be a starter

 

[10993]

Mr. Harrier,Please explain why you think Darell Jackson is a bad pick at 4.05. The next 3 receivers after him were Hines Ward, Isaac Bruce, and Derek Mason. With K-Rob probably leaving Seattle next year, I think D'Jax easily outperforms this group.Also, with Big Ben, keep in mind for sure starters for the following year is slim and in a 16 team league, they get gobbled up quickly. Sure he didn't look good last week, but his hand isn't right IMO. He'll have some solid games next year. He was the offensive ROY as a QB, I believe the only guy to ever do that, I'll take my chances.

I'm not going to argue for those three WR picked immediately after, though I do like the Mason pick at least for next year.It basically comes down to Jackson not being a very good WR. The situation in Seattle is also very volatile, which doesn't help--KRob might not be the only one leaving, and that offense may not look quite so pretty next year. I see Seattle as a team in decline. For all of those reasons, I don't like the pick of Jackson SO high, above Mason and a lot of QB value. You should haev picked a QB here instead if you weren't impressed with the other WR.But because you didn't pick a QB, you got Big Ben at 5.12. Big Ben is just awful. his stats this year don't come near to supporting that kind of production, and thats's a ball-control offense. He's a decent QB with a great team around him, but I doubt he will put up the stats of Griese, Harrington, or Ramsey, who followed him.At 4.05 you could have had Brooks, Brees, Favre or McNair. At 5.12 you could have had Clayton, Steve Smith, or Boldin.I'd take a Brooks/Clayton or Brees/Boldin combo over Big Ben/DJax any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Wouldn't you?

 

[10993]

I managed to stay off everyone's bad list even though I think that some may think I reached on my 2nd and third round picks. The fact of the matter is at the time I could not afford to be on the end of a QB run and felt that I could start one rather than become beholden to one. Other than that I think I have found value where value was and am liking my team as it developes.vick, greentomlinson, TJ, LJporter, j smith, stallworth, parkerwiggins, cooley

Yup, I have you down as the second best team, from what we have seen so far. Right after Colin, and you beat him if he flops at QB.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'd take a Brooks/Clayton or Brees/Boldin combo over Big Ben/DJax any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Wouldn't you?

Possibly Brooks/Clayton but not Brees/Boldin.......Boldin could come back the way he was, but they have all kinds of guys over there now and nobody to throw the ball. I expect Ben R. to get better. He's a talented rookie. If you saw him play in Miami, you would know he's got the game to produce numbers. Again, I do think his hand was a problem for him last week.Thanks for taking the time to critque.

 

[LHUCKS]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

 

[10993]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

It's on my list of bad picks. Shouldn't inspire hatred, but it's not a good pick.

 

[LHUCKS]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

It's on my list of bad picks. Shouldn't inspire hatred, but it's not a good pick.

Horrible spot to pick from ...I would have traded down as I have him slightly higher than the next 6 RBs on my board for survivor style.I like Barber in this format for several reasons:a) job securityb) ability to stay healthyc) consistency in fantasy scoring

 

[Family Matters]

1 Fullback Fro  - RB Ladanian Tomlinson

11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee

12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones

13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister

2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss

2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown

4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown

4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson

4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster

5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith

6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton

6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin

6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald

7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter

7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans

8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers

8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry

9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer

10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe

10.09 Motown --  QB Billy Volek QB29

^ good picks

Hey EBF, what up?Are you saying LHUCKS has no good picks?

And me. I must have the worst team.

 

[Family Matters]

Anyone else think Morris will be the starting RB in Sea next year?

 

[LHUCKS]

Anyone else think Morris will be the starting RB in Sea next year?

If they do let Alexander go they will bring in competition for Morris.

 

[Family Matters]

Anyone else think Morris will be the starting RB in Sea next year?

If they do let Alexander go they will bring in competition for Morris.

Why? He has performed comprable to Alex and they could invest in other areas. I'm not saying he's as good but then who would be?

 

[LHUCKS]

Anyone else think Morris will be the starting RB in Sea next year?

If they do let Alexander go they will bring in competition for Morris.

Why? He has performed comprable to Alex and they could invest in other areas. I'm not saying he's as good but then who would be?

My remark was speculation based on what I've seen and heard.Morris has been as good in limited duty...huge difference between 5 touches and 25 touches.

 

[Gordon Keith]

Anyone else think Morris will be the starting RB in Sea next year?

If they do let Alexander go they will bring in competition for Morris.

Why? He has performed comprable to Alex and they could invest in other areas. I'm not saying he's as good but then who would be?

My remark was speculation based on what I've seen and heard.Morris has been as good in limited duty...huge difference between 5 touches and 25 touches.

Is there any hope that Kerry Carter would have a chance at the starting gig? I thought he looked pretty good what little I have seen of him.

 

[EBF]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

I thought it was a questionable pick, but not quite bad enough to put on the bad list. In your situation I probably would've gone with Deuce McAllister or Kevin Jones.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Maurice Morris is 200lbs...I don't think he's a viable candidate to replace Alexander by himself. It would be some form of RBBC if they let Alexander leave and don't replace him with somebody.Surprised there haven't been any comments on 2 QBs going in the top 4 picks.

 

[LHUCKS]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

I thought it was a questionable pick, but not quite bad enough to put on the bad list. In your situation I probably would've gone with Deuce McAllister or Kevin Jones.

Yeah, I considered both Deuce and Ahman there.

 

[rzrback77]

Surprised at the lack of Barber hatred...I thought that pick may have raised a few more eyebrows.

I thought it was a questionable pick, but not quite bad enough to put on the bad list. In your situation I probably would've gone with Deuce McAllister or Kevin Jones.

Yeah, I considered both Deuce and Ahman there.

But Ahman Green was listed as a "bad pick" at 1.09. Why would you conside him at 1.05?

 

[bostonfred]

Surprised there haven't been any comments on 2 QBs going in the top 4 picks.

Not true, I already said I thought one of them was a good pick.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Surprised there haven't been any comments on 2 QBs going in the top 4 picks.

Not true, I already said I thought one of them was a good pick.

his 2nd half of the season wasn't all that great, was it?

 

[bostonfred]

Surprised there haven't been any comments on 2 QBs going in the top 4 picks.

Not true, I already said I thought one of them was a good pick.

his 2nd half of the season wasn't all that great, was it?

Moss was coming back from injury. Give him a whole healthy year and let Culpepper get some more time with burgeoning stud Burleson and first year Vike Robinson. Culpepper's numbers have always been reliant on Moss. This year we just got to see the proof. I won't say that other guy's name but I suspect the same is true with him.

 

[Clayton Gray]

My thoughts:

1.01 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson - duh1.03 Rush - RB Shaun Alexander - slightly risky with his destination unknown1.05 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber - drafted here based solely upon '04 results...he should go later in round one1.06 Radballs - RB Edgerrin James - good1.07 Federal - RB Priest Holmes - good1.08 Motown - RB Domanick Davis - good1.09 rzrback77 - RB Ahman Green - good1.10 Twilight - RB Jamal Lewis - good1.11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee - good1.12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones - too early...should be very good but would rather take him next round1.13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister - good1.14 Colin - RB Clinton Portis - good1.15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones - good1.16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon - good2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin - good, but I probably won't take him2.02 Fiddles -- RB Thomas Jones - good2.04 ShadowFax -- RB Rudi Johnson - good2.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Fred Taylor - good2.09 Motown -- RB Brian Westbrook - very good...a steal this late2.10 Federal -- RB Steven Jackson - too risky when paired up with the now-always-injured Holmes2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown - would be a steal if he stays healthy2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs - don't like this spot for him...has to stay healthy to have any value here2.13 Fam Matters - RB Tatum Bell - will probably be very good...drafting this early is a risk though2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman - I like him, but he probably won't be any better than this spot2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson - extremely risky w/out knowing his team3.02 Rudnicki -- RB Warrick Dunn - good3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett - good3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow - good3.11 Duke1948 -- RB Travis Henry - should be good if he can get out of Buffalo and have a shot somewhere else4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown - don't like taking RBs as RB1 or RB2 w/out know their team4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster - a reach on what seems to be an injury-proned RB...should have taken Duckett4.13 Fam Matters - RB Duce Staley - good but would rather have Duckett4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith - should have taken Duckett4.15 Rudnicki -- RB Carnell Williams - should have taken Duckett4.16 Fullback Fro -- RB Larry Johnson - not bad, but should have taken Duckett5.01 Fullback Fro -- RB TJ Duckett - oh, he did take Duckett5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis - '04 looks so much like a last hurrah that this pick could be a wash7.06 Radballs -- RB Marshall Faulk - ditto7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns - '04 looks so much like an only hurrah that this pick could be a wash7.10 Twilight -- RB Derrick Blaylock - OK7.11 Duke1948 -- RB Lamont Jordan - OK8.03 Colin -- RB Chris Perry- OK8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis - interesting8.10 Federal -- RB Marcel Shipp - interesting8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green - OK8.14 Rush -- RB Correll Buckhalter - interesting9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas - OK9.08 Motown -- RB Dominic Rhodes - OK9.13 ShadowFax -- RB Najeh Davenport - OK9.14 Colin -- RB Nick Goings - interesting9.16 ACP -- RB Kevin Faulk - OK10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith - probably little to no value in '0510.07 Twilight -- RB Mewelde Moore - OK10.13 Family Matters - RB Maurice Morris - OK10.15 Rudnicki -- RB Chester Taylor - OK1.02 Rudnicki - QB Peyton Manning - would be surprised to see him w/35 TDs in '05, but he's pretty solid for 28+1.04 Family Matters - QB Daunte Cullpepper - seems early2.07 Twilight -- QB Donovan McNabb would rather have Westbrook2.16 F. Fro -- QB Trent Green - solid if the Chiefs upgrade at WR3.01 Fullback Fro -- QB Michael Vick - good3.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Marc Bulger - good3.13 ShadowFax -- QB Tom Brady - a rich man's Troy Aikman3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme - doesn't make my socks roll up and down4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer - good4.06 Duke1948 -- QB Matt Hasselbeck - will be undervalued in '054.08 rzrback -- QB Aaron Brooks - good4.09 Motown -- QB Drew Brees - don't like this spot5.03 Rush -- QB Brett Favre - surely he won't retire5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair - will be undervalued in '05 if he plays5.06 Radballs -- QB Byron Leftwich - good5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr - a middle class man's Troy Aikman5.10 Twilight -- QB Carson Palmer - good5.11 Duke1948 -- QB Chad Pennington - very good5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger - seems too early5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins - seems too early, but he could be very good5.14 Colin -- QB Brian Griese - good6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning - wouldn't want him as my #1 QB7.03 Rush -- QB Joey Harrington - good7.04 Family Matters -- QB Patrick Ramsey - should be good, but something doesn't seem right with him7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe - yuk7.07 Federal -- QB Rex Grossman - better than Manning the Younger8.01 ACP -- QB Kyle Boller - if they add a quality WR, this is a steal10.08 rzrback -- QB Josh McCown - if he's starting, this is good value10.09 Motown -- QB Billy Volek - OK2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss - '05 has super value written all over him2.06 Duke1948 --WR Terrell Owens - good3.03 Rush -- WR Torry Holt - good3.04 Family Matters -- WR Chad Johnson - good3.05 LHUCKS -- WR Marvin Harrison - good3.06 Radballs -- WR Javon Walker - good3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams - good3.14 Colin -- WR Joe Horn - good4.02 Fiddles -- WR Reggie Wayne - good4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson - good4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson - good4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward - good4.11 Radballs -- WR Isaac Bruce - good but seems to find more nicks lately...could be wearing down5.02 Rudnicki -- WR Derrick Mason - good5.07 Federal -- WR Ashley Lelie - still not sold, but this is an OK spot for him5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds - good5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith - good6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton - good6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson - not bad, but feel like we'll see regression in his '05 numbers6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin - good6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers - could be a steal6.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Drew Bennett - a bit over valued6.06 Duke1948 -- WR Laverneus Coles - good6.07 Twilight -- WR Santana Moss - OK6.08 rzrback -- WR Muhsin Muhammad - surely he'll be starting somewhere in '056.12 LHUCKS -- WR Plaxico Burress - '05 has super value written all over him6.13 Family Matters - WR Donald Driver - good6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald - should be improved but not sold6.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Jimmy Smith - good7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter - OK7.02 Rudnicki -- WR Rod Smith - OK7.08 Motown -- WR Eddie Kennison - OK7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans - good7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh - OK but could see a regression in his '05 numbers7.16 ACP -- WR Brandon Stokely - could be the most over valued WR in '05 drafts8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers - he'll need to play at least 14 games in a season before being on one of my teams8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry - not sold8.07 Twilight -- WR Antonio Bryant - not sold8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins - good8.09 Motown -- WR Koren Robinson - '05 has some value written all over him8.11 Radballs -- WR Deion Branch - good8.13 Family Matters - WR Keenan McCardell - good8.15 Rudnicki -- WR KEyshaun Johnson - good8.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Donte Stallworth - good9.02 Rudnicki -- WR David Givens - good9.03 Rush -- WR Peerless Price - ugh9.04 Family Matters -- WR Keary Colbert - OK9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer - '05 has super value written all over him9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston - '05 has some value written all over him9.09 rzrback77 -- WR Braylon Edwards - same as playing darts9.10 Twilight -- WR Tyrone Calico - might be good but this is too early9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt - OK9.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Mike Williams - same as playing darts9.15 Fiddles -- WR Kevin Curtis - OK10.01 ACP -- WR Rod Gardner - good10.03 Colin -- WR Peter Warrick - OK10.10 Federal -- WR David Terrell - OK10.12 LHUCKS -- WR Terry Glenn - OK10.14 Rush -- WR Joey Galloway - OK10.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Eric Parker - OK2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez - good, but a reach since Gates was taken almost a full round later3.07 Federal -- TE Antonio Gates - good3.16 ACP -- TE Todd Heap - good4.12 LHUCKS -- TE Jason Witten - good5.04 Family Matters -- TE Jeremy Shockey - good6.09 Motown -- TE Alge Crumpler - good6.11 Radballs -- TE Kellen Winslow - good6.14 Rush -- TE Randy McMichael - excellent in the first half of the season7.13 ShadowFax -- TE Eric Johnson - not so good if they upgrade WRs7.14 Colin -- TE Dallas Clark - good9.01 Fullback Fro -- TE Jermaine Wiggins - what happens with Kleinsasser?10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe - OK10.05 WannabeCowboy -- TE Jeb Putzier - good10.06 Duke1948 -- TE Daniel Graham - something not right with him8.06 Duke1948 -- DEF New England Patriots - good, but a reach since the Ravens were taken over two rounds later10.11 Radballs -- DEF Baltimore Ravens - good

 

[Family Matters]

What I find interesting in these 16 team drafts, especially survivor style, is you have to draft early on some guys or you can get shut out of a position. This forces some gambles on some guys. Eg, taking Bell in the 2nd, yet he was the 23rd RB taken. I don't think 23rd is early. In fact I think he is a value at 23. By taking Cpep in the first I had to take what was left after the big RB run. Staley was a safe pick because when healthy he can give you 70-90 yards per game and perhaps a few TD's. Taking Cpep in the first was based on the numerous questions at QB and not wanting to get stuck with 1-2 QB's that may or may not be the man.Remember the goal isn't to have the best team per se, but rather to not be the 2 lowest scoring teams each week. Having guys that are consistent adds value in these formats. If you make the final 4 you have just a good as chance as the other 3 to go all the way, IMO.

 

[Fullback Fro]

My thoughts:

1.01 Fullback Fro - RB Ladanian Tomlinson - duh1.03 Rush - RB Shaun Alexander - slightly risky with his destination unknown1.05 LHUCKS - RB Tiki Barber - drafted here based solely upon '04 results...he should go later in round one1.06 Radballs - RB Edgerrin James - good1.07 Federal - RB Priest Holmes - good1.08 Motown - RB Domanick Davis - good1.09 rzrback77 - RB Ahman Green - good1.10 Twilight - RB Jamal Lewis - good1.11 Duke1948 - RB Willis McGahee - good1.12 Iwannabeacowboybaby - RB Kevin Jones - too early...should be very good but would rather take him next round1.13 Shadowfax - RB Deuce McAllister - good1.14 Colin - RB Clinton Portis - good1.15 Fiddles - RB Julius Jones - good1.16 AhrnCityPahnder - RB Corey Dillon - good2.01 ACP -- RB Curtis Martin - good, but I probably won't take him2.02 Fiddles -- RB Thomas Jones - good2.04 ShadowFax -- RB Rudi Johnson - good2.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Fred Taylor - good2.09 Motown -- RB Brian Westbrook - very good...a steal this late2.10 Federal -- RB Steven Jackson - too risky when paired up with the now-always-injured Holmes2.11 Radballs -- RB Chris Brown - would be a steal if he stays healthy2.12 LHUCKS -- RB Lee Suggs - don't like this spot for him...has to stay healthy to have any value here2.13 Fam Matters - RB Tatum Bell - will probably be very good...drafting this early is a risk though2.14 Rush - RB Michael Pittman - I like him, but he probably won't be any better than this spot2.15 Rudnicki - RB Cedric Benson - extremely risky w/out knowing his team3.02 Rudnicki -- RB Warrick Dunn - good3.08 Motown -- RB Michael Bennett - good3.09 rzrback77 -- RB Kevan Barlow - good3.11 Duke1948 -- RB Travis Henry - should be good if he can get out of Buffalo and have a shot somewhere else4.03 Colin -- RB Ronnie Brown - don't like taking RBs as RB1 or RB2 w/out know their team4.07 Twilight -- RB Deshaun Foster - a reach on what seems to be an injury-proned RB...should have taken Duckett4.13 Fam Matters - RB Duce Staley - good but would rather have Duckett4.14 Rush --RB Onterrio Smith - should have taken Duckett4.15 Rudnicki -- RB Carnell Williams - should have taken Duckett4.16 Fullback Fro -- RB Larry Johnson - not bad, but should have taken Duckett5.01 Fullback Fro -- RB TJ Duckett - oh, he did take Duckett5.15 Fiddles -- RB - Jerome Bettis - '04 looks so much like a last hurrah that this pick could be a wash7.06 Radballs -- RB Marshall Faulk - ditto7.09 rzrback77 -- RB Reuben Droughns - '04 looks so much like an only hurrah that this pick could be a wash7.10 Twilight -- RB Derrick Blaylock - OK7.11 Duke1948 -- RB Lamont Jordan - OK8.03 Colin -- RB Chris Perry- OK8.05 WannabeCowboy -- RB Stephen Davis - interesting8.10 Federal -- RB Marcel Shipp - interesting8.12 LHUCKS -- RB William Green - OK8.14 Rush -- RB Correll Buckhalter - interesting9.05 LHUCKS -- RB Anthony Thomas - OK9.08 Motown -- RB Dominic Rhodes - OK9.13 ShadowFax -- RB Najeh Davenport - OK9.14 Colin -- RB Nick Goings - interesting9.16 ACP -- RB Kevin Faulk - OK10.04 ShadowFax -- RB Antowain Smith - probably little to no value in '0510.07 Twilight -- RB Mewelde Moore - OK10.13 Family Matters - RB Maurice Morris - OK10.15 Rudnicki -- RB Chester Taylor - OK1.02 Rudnicki - QB Peyton Manning - would be surprised to see him w/35 TDs in '05, but he's pretty solid for 28+1.04 Family Matters - QB Daunte Cullpepper - seems early2.07 Twilight -- QB Donovan McNabb would rather have Westbrook2.16 F. Fro -- QB Trent Green - solid if the Chiefs upgrade at WR3.01 Fullback Fro -- QB Michael Vick - good3.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Marc Bulger - good3.13 ShadowFax -- QB Tom Brady - a rich man's Troy Aikman3.15 Fiddles -- QB Jake Delhomme - doesn't make my socks roll up and down4.01 ACP -- QB Jake Plummer - good4.06 Duke1948 -- QB Matt Hasselbeck - will be undervalued in '054.08 rzrback -- QB Aaron Brooks - good4.09 Motown -- QB Drew Brees - don't like this spot5.03 Rush -- QB Brett Favre - surely he won't retire5.05 LHUCKS -- QB Steve McNair - will be undervalued in '05 if he plays5.06 Radballs -- QB Byron Leftwich - good5.08 Motown -- QB David Carr - a middle class man's Troy Aikman5.10 Twilight -- QB Carson Palmer - good5.11 Duke1948 -- QB Chad Pennington - very good5.12 WannabeCowboy -- QB Ben Roethlisberger - seems too early5.13 ShadowFax -- QB Kerry Collins - seems too early, but he could be very good5.14 Colin -- QB Brian Griese - good6.10 Federal -- QB Eli Manning - wouldn't want him as my #1 QB7.03 Rush -- QB Joey Harrington - good7.04 Family Matters -- QB Patrick Ramsey - should be good, but something doesn't seem right with him7.05 LHUCKS -- QB Drew Bledsoe - yuk7.07 Federal -- QB Rex Grossman - better than Manning the Younger8.01 ACP -- QB Kyle Boller - if they add a quality WR, this is a steal10.08 rzrback -- QB Josh McCown - if he's starting, this is good value10.09 Motown -- QB Billy Volek - OK2.03 Colin -- WR Randy Moss - '05 has super value written all over him2.06 Duke1948 --WR Terrell Owens - good3.03 Rush -- WR Torry Holt - good3.04 Family Matters -- WR Chad Johnson - good3.05 LHUCKS -- WR Marvin Harrison - good3.06 Radballs -- WR Javon Walker - good3.10 Twilight -- WR Roy Williams - good3.14 Colin -- WR Joe Horn - good4.02 Fiddles -- WR Reggie Wayne - good4.04 ShadowFax -- WR Andre Johnson - good4.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Darrell Jackson - good4.10 Federal -- WR Hines Ward - good4.11 Radballs -- WR Isaac Bruce - good but seems to find more nicks lately...could be wearing down5.02 Rudnicki -- WR Derrick Mason - good5.07 Federal -- WR Ashley Lelie - still not sold, but this is an OK spot for him5.09 rzrback77 -- WR Eric Moulds - good5.16 ACP -- WR Steve Smith - good6.01 ACP -- WR Michael Clayton - good6.02 Fiddles -- WR Nate Burleson - not bad, but feel like we'll see regression in his '05 numbers6.03 Colin -- WR Anquan Boldin - good6.04 ShadowFax -- WR Chris Chambers - could be a steal6.05 WannabeCowboy -- WR Drew Bennett - a bit over valued6.06 Duke1948 -- WR Laverneus Coles - good6.07 Twilight -- WR Santana Moss - OK6.08 rzrback -- WR Muhsin Muhammad - surely he'll be starting somewhere in '056.12 LHUCKS -- WR Plaxico Burress - '05 has super value written all over him6.13 Family Matters - WR Donald Driver - good6.15 Rudnicki -- WR Larry Fitzgerald - should be improved but not sold6.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Jimmy Smith - good7.01 Fullback Fro -- WR Jerry Porter - OK7.02 Rudnicki -- WR Rod Smith - OK7.08 Motown -- WR Eddie Kennison - OK7.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Lee Evans - good7.15 Fiddles -- WR TJ Houshmandzadeh - OK but could see a regression in his '05 numbers7.16 ACP -- WR Brandon Stokely - could be the most over valued WR in '05 drafts8.02 Fiddles -- WR Charles Rogers - he'll need to play at least 14 games in a season before being on one of my teams8.04 ShadowFax -- WR Ronald Curry - not sold8.07 Twilight -- WR Antonio Bryant - not sold8.08 rzrback -- WR Justin McCareins - good8.09 Motown -- WR Koren Robinson - '05 has some value written all over him8.11 Radballs -- WR Deion Branch - good8.13 Family Matters - WR Keenan McCardell - good8.15 Rudnicki -- WR KEyshaun Johnson - good8.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Donte Stallworth - good9.02 Rudnicki -- WR David Givens - good9.03 Rush -- WR Peerless Price - ugh9.04 Family Matters -- WR Keary Colbert - OK9.06 Radballs -- WR Amani Toomer - '05 has super value written all over him9.07 Federal -- WR David Boston - '05 has some value written all over him9.09 rzrback77 -- WR Braylon Edwards - same as playing darts9.10 Twilight -- WR Tyrone Calico - might be good but this is too early9.11 Duke1948 -- WR Dennis Northcutt - OK9.12 WannabeCowboy -- WR Mike Williams - same as playing darts9.15 Fiddles -- WR Kevin Curtis - OK10.01 ACP -- WR Rod Gardner - good10.03 Colin -- WR Peter Warrick - OK10.10 Federal -- WR David Terrell - OK10.12 LHUCKS -- WR Terry Glenn - OK10.14 Rush -- WR Joey Galloway - OK10.16 Fullback Fro -- WR Eric Parker - OK2.08 rzrback -- TE Tony Gonzalez - good, but a reach since Gates was taken almost a full round later3.07 Federal -- TE Antonio Gates - good3.16 ACP -- TE Todd Heap - good4.12 LHUCKS -- TE Jason Witten - good5.04 Family Matters -- TE Jeremy Shockey - good6.09 Motown -- TE Alge Crumpler - good6.11 Radballs -- TE Kellen Winslow - good6.14 Rush -- TE Randy McMichael - excellent in the first half of the season7.13 ShadowFax -- TE Eric Johnson - not so good if they upgrade WRs7.14 Colin -- TE Dallas Clark - good9.01 Fullback Fro -- TE Jermaine Wiggins - what happens with Kleinsasser?10.02 Fiddles -- TE Ben Troupe - OK10.05 WannabeCowboy -- TE Jeb Putzier - good10.06 Duke1948 -- TE Daniel Graham - something not right with him8.06 Duke1948 -- DEF New England Patriots - good, but a reach since the Ravens were taken over two rounds later10.11 Radballs -- DEF Baltimore Ravens - good

Thanks Clayton - This kind of analysis is what makes these boards so good. Fro in 05'

 

[bagger.]

So Aaron does not believe in VBD? Both him and Family Matters just fell into a huge trap with both QBs coming off record seasons. They won't repeat.I hope the rest of the footballguys.com staff does not fall into this short-term reactionary way of thinking.