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First NFBC Draft. Here is my recap (1 Viewer)

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Ok this being my first NFBC draft and in fact my FIRST fantasy baseball draft as well.

i am looking like dead money, but i have been very successful in fantasy football and just wanted to give it a try in baseball.

please let me have it. i know this team is not complete and is going to need help in hrs, rbi, wins, ks and saves.

with all that said i think this team has potential and will compete for the championship when all is said and done.

this was one of their double online leagues: 12 teams 5x5 roto. scoring

3rd pick of draft

1st - 5rd:

a rod

j ellsbury

j. reyes (injury is a concern, but i still believe worth the expense) would rather have drafted in the 4th. wouldn't have been there.

d. haren

k. morales

i really wanted j. rollins or r. halladay in the second round but both were drafted.

i probably should have drafted greinke, but it didn't seem like we were setup for a pitcher run so i waited

greinke wasn't drafted untill the 4.1 so i thought he got nice value.

i like my first 5 rounds but was really disappointed in not getting rollins. rollins is setup for a monster year. i would have preferred a better starter.

6th - 15:

c. figgins

m. rivera

h. kendrick

c. billingsley

j. pierre

r. porcello

v. guerrero

m. prado

aj pierzynski

j. danks

c. hart

wow that is an interesting group of players. some are so early i would have said thats a joke, but hear me out.

i totally missed out on the sp run and closer run and was already looking for hrs. players i had targeted for certain rounds were getting drafted 2-3 rounds early and some players so early i didn't even think they would be drafted until the late teens or 20 something.

i will admit with this being my 1st draft i stopped looking at adp and just simply looked at how i ranked my players (in fantasy football i would probably get killed doing this).

i did think i would be able to get some better outfielders late in the draft and missed out on a backup ss/mi for reyes while i wait for him to come back.

rounds 17 - 30:

c hart

c coughlan

j rivera

c iannetta

p hughes

m buehrle

k wood (i know dl but there wasn't a closer left and i was hoping to at least get madson but he was long gone)

j rauch

m thornton

m byrd

e encarnacion

j francouer

l valbuena (i totally couldn't find a ss backup so i had to take the best player i had listed with ss avail)

d bard

g zaun

the draft was very nice and i think interesting to say the least. adp was totally thrown out of wack from what i have seen. pitchers went way earlier then i was expecting(starting round 5 they just ran like crazy)

baseball roto style seems very interesting with more strategy involved. do you want to be heavy in the hrs and rbi or do you want to go with ave, runs and sb. i know a good average is probably better.

in pitching do you concentrate on wins and k or do you select era, saves and whip.

for those experienced please let me know where i totally hit a homerun and where i need to work on.

we don't have trading so i can't look at getting some power by giving up the sb and average.

all in all i still think my team has potential and will compete with some nice faab work.

what do you all think?

 
The biggest mistake that most noobs make is not committing to drafting as much power as they'll need, and loading up on SB instead. Esp. now with so many good young MI and OF speed options that can be had in later rounds, I didn't even bother with the Reyeses and the Ellsburys this year. But A-Rod's OK, Haren's OK, and Morales is fine.

In the second group, Rivera's a fine pick, Kendrick is way too early and not necessary because Figgins will be able to play 2B. Pierre's in line to have a great year (I drafted him too) but you've already got SB's locked up. Billingsley and Porcello I don't know about, since I don't know who else is avail.

The last half of the draft is pretty good. I liked that you loaded up on setup men with the closers being tapped out, and I really like Hughes' potential this year.

I really don't think there are many wrinkles in optimal roto strategy. For pitchers, I draft based on K/9, BB/9, FB/GB, and then park factors and team defense. All of the numbers that count in roto flow therefrom, subject to variance. For hitters, it's more of a feel thing, but I try to get as much power as I can without letting my SB levels dip below the league average. And the power guys rack up more runs and AVG. than the speed guys do RBI/HR.

When to zig and zag with various positional runs is a really tricky thing.

 
Honestly, I really don't like this draft. You spent almost all of your early picks on hitters and yet you still look like you'll get crushed in HR/RBI. That probably shouldn't happen. Obviously, you're going to win steals and be good in AVG/Runs, but I don't know where else your team even has the potential to be above average for either hitting or pitching.

ARod should be awesome this year, but you'll still need Hart (who I like) or Coughlan or someone like that to step up big to keep you in the mix.

 
The biggest mistake that most noobs make is not committing to drafting as much power as they'll need, and loading up on SB instead. Esp. now with so many good young MI and OF speed options that can be had in later rounds, I didn't even bother with the Reyeses and the Ellsburys this year. But A-Rod's OK, Haren's OK, and Morales is fine.In the second group, Rivera's a fine pick, Kendrick is way too early and not necessary because Figgins will be able to play 2B. Pierre's in line to have a great year (I drafted him too) but you've already got SB's locked up. Billingsley and Porcello I don't know about, since I don't know who else is avail. The last half of the draft is pretty good. I liked that you loaded up on setup men with the closers being tapped out, and I really like Hughes' potential this year.I really don't think there are many wrinkles in optimal roto strategy. For pitchers, I draft based on K/9, BB/9, FB/GB, and then park factors and team defense. All of the numbers that count in roto flow therefrom, subject to variance. For hitters, it's more of a feel thing, but I try to get as much power as I can without letting my SB levels dip below the league average. And the power guys rack up more runs and AVG. than the speed guys do RBI/HR. When to zig and zag with various positional runs is a really tricky thing.
Interesting you mention the "power" thing in regards to noobs, because I am a 15 year FF guy like the OP, and did my first Baseball draft on Sunday. Mac_32 has been kind enough to help me out and give guidance leading up to my draft, yet he also found that my team (after A-Rod and Howard) was also shy on Power. In fact, when I looked at my overal team, I think I have 6 guys that hit from the 1 spot. I will throw this out there because when I look at the hitting categories (at least in my league), we have Runs, RBI, HR, SB and batting average. My "general" assumption (and it is general, but also may be where noobs fail) is that the Power guys are going to own HRs and RBI, yet the leadoff-types, "should" own BA, SB and runs. I look at it as though I am going to nab 3 categories, while my opponent (althought we are Roto) will own HR and RBI on a given week, giving me a 3-2 advantage. Is this the correct line of thinnking?? My guess is this is what FFMaster was thinking, but just not sure...
 
The biggest mistake that most noobs make is not committing to drafting as much power as they'll need, and loading up on SB instead. Esp. now with so many good young MI and OF speed options that can be had in later rounds, I didn't even bother with the Reyeses and the Ellsburys this year. But A-Rod's OK, Haren's OK, and Morales is fine.In the second group, Rivera's a fine pick, Kendrick is way too early and not necessary because Figgins will be able to play 2B. Pierre's in line to have a great year (I drafted him too) but you've already got SB's locked up. Billingsley and Porcello I don't know about, since I don't know who else is avail. The last half of the draft is pretty good. I liked that you loaded up on setup men with the closers being tapped out, and I really like Hughes' potential this year.I really don't think there are many wrinkles in optimal roto strategy. For pitchers, I draft based on K/9, BB/9, FB/GB, and then park factors and team defense. All of the numbers that count in roto flow therefrom, subject to variance. For hitters, it's more of a feel thing, but I try to get as much power as I can without letting my SB levels dip below the league average. And the power guys rack up more runs and AVG. than the speed guys do RBI/HR. When to zig and zag with various positional runs is a really tricky thing.
Interesting you mention the "power" thing in regards to noobs, because I am a 15 year FF guy like the OP, and did my first Baseball draft on Sunday. Mac_32 has been kind enough to help me out and give guidance leading up to my draft, yet he also found that my team (after A-Rod and Howard) was also shy on Power. In fact, when I looked at my overal team, I think I have 6 guys that hit from the 1 spot. I will throw this out there because when I look at the hitting categories (at least in my league), we have Runs, RBI, HR, SB and batting average. My "general" assumption (and it is general, but also may be where noobs fail) is that the Power guys are going to own HRs and RBI, yet the leadoff-types, "should" own BA, SB and runs. I look at it as though I am going to nab 3 categories, while my opponent (althought we are Roto) will own HR and RBI on a given week, giving me a 3-2 advantage. Is this the correct line of thinnking?? My guess is this is what FFMaster was thinking, but just not sure...
I could see how that line of thought would originate, but it tends not to work unfortunately.Your power hitters will get HR/RBIs but they also score a decent amount of runs, and their averages can be comparable to the leadoff hitters (there are some speedsters with no ability to hit for average). In my experience it tends to work out that Power guys tend to own HR & RBIs, but also (if you draft right) help out enough with average, runs and sometimes SB to keep you competitive in those categories. So really the power guys and lead off types might tie in Average, and runs leading to 3-2 advantage for the power guys. Sometime they contribute just enough SB that if you get one good speedster you can compete in that category too.
 
You have WAY too many light hitters who steal - Ellsbury, Figgins, Pierre. You will get killed in power and finish first in SB's. Add in 2 2B who are middle at best with power, and you have serious power issues.

I was in 2 NFBC main events, the Auction Championship, and the Double Play over the last 2 weekends, and have competed the last 5 years in it, so I have a very good idea of what you need power wise.

 
i totally agree that i am WAY too light on hrs and rbi.

my question for the seasoned vets, can you pick this up in free agency? or am i looking at a very long year?

i am under the impression that pitching can be found in the free agent pool during the year, but how about hitting?

i was thinking that you need to be around 80 pts per week to win your league. i look at my team and league and see my total points to be:

ave: 10/11 pts

sb: 12

runs: 10

hrs: 3

rbi: 3

wins: 5/7

ks: 5/7

era: 10/11

whip: 10/11

saves: 5

total: 73/80 pts per week

what i am hoping is that there will be some young players that come out of nowhere that i can find to give me the power and pitching i need to improve.

how does everyone usually handle free agency? what do you look for?

 
i totally agree that i am WAY too light on hrs and rbi.my question for the seasoned vets, can you pick this up in free agency? or am i looking at a very long year?i am under the impression that pitching can be found in the free agent pool during the year, but how about hitting?i was thinking that you need to be around 80 pts per week to win your league. i look at my team and league and see my total points to be:ave: 10/11 ptssb: 12runs: 10hrs: 3rbi: 3wins: 5/7ks: 5/7era: 10/11whip: 10/11saves: 5total: 73/80 pts per weekwhat i am hoping is that there will be some young players that come out of nowhere that i can find to give me the power and pitching i need to improve.how does everyone usually handle free agency? what do you look for?
Power is the hardest thing to find. After 360 picks, you're going to need someone to rocket out of the minors or find some newfound power to go from undrafted to a legit. power hitter. Zobrist is the only one I can think of who'd fall into this category from last year. And then you have to snag him before 11 other people.Also, you're over-estimating your pitching.
 

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