I think there are some interesting situations that may play out over the next few weeks regarding QB's. Tennessee is 0-2 with the potential to go down 0-3 after this week. Is there a chance we see Vince Young come off the bench to take over the starting gig? I personally think Jason Campbell might be another QB benched in the near future if the offense continues to struggle. Bulger is another guy that I cant seem to understand why he is still in there, although I'm not sure Boller would be much of an upgrade all things considered. Just wanted to get some thoughts and opinions as the performance of some potentially rosterable players could improve with a change at QB.
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First QB to be benched this season? (1 Viewer)
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5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Probably should be Rusell, but it won't.
I'm going to say Quinn.
I'm going to say Quinn.
Sleeping King
Footballguy
Delhomme. They are looking 0-3 square in the face Monday night.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Tennessee started 10-0 last year.
Since then, including the playoff loss to Baltimore, they have gone 3-6.
Next up is the Jets in NY. Good chance they fall to 0-3. Then it's J'ville. I think if they were to lose that game (it's on the road, so very possible) and fall to 0-4, I think 36 year old Kerry Collins has to move aside and Vince Young given another chance to do what they are paying him 3rd pick in the draft money to do -- play, not sit.
Since then, including the playoff loss to Baltimore, they have gone 3-6.
Next up is the Jets in NY. Good chance they fall to 0-3. Then it's J'ville. I think if they were to lose that game (it's on the road, so very possible) and fall to 0-4, I think 36 year old Kerry Collins has to move aside and Vince Young given another chance to do what they are paying him 3rd pick in the draft money to do -- play, not sit.
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thatguy
Footballguy
This.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Collins has been quite good, aside from the no-contact fumble on the last drive against Houston.It's obviously their pass defense that is lacking. They were in both games up until the very end.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think Quinn's going to get a longer leash than many think, he still hasn't really gotten his shot so you have to think he'll get at least 2/3 of the season (if not the whole thing) unless he continues to look epically bad, right? Delhomme, too. Fox seems to take too long to make changes.
Miami needs to start winning or it very well could be Henne. Same goes for Tampa and Freeman.
It should be JaMarcus, but it won't be.
My vote's for Washington, especially if they lose to Detroit like I think they could this weekend, the front office seems to have lost faith in Campbell and this organization seems like more of a trigger happy one. I'd be more confident in this if they had a solid backup in waiting, since they don't I'm a little hesitant here.
Miami needs to start winning or it very well could be Henne. Same goes for Tampa and Freeman.
It should be JaMarcus, but it won't be.
My vote's for Washington, especially if they lose to Detroit like I think they could this weekend, the front office seems to have lost faith in Campbell and this organization seems like more of a trigger happy one. I'd be more confident in this if they had a solid backup in waiting, since they don't I'm a little hesitant here.
gianmarco
Footballguy
brednbuddah
Footballguy
bingo.honorable mention: quinn
Maroney=Sped
Footballguy
Yup. It's not just about who's struggling, it's also about who's available as a replacement. Cleveland's the only team I can think of that both has a struggling QB and a guy who went to the Pro Bowl behind him.
If I am not mistaken Tennessee has a pretty easy schedule after this week. I doubt they will pack it in even if they go 0-3
MAC_32
Footballguy
No. Chefs traded a top 2nd round pick and paid him a truck load of cash. Just because some may think he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell (ftr, I agree) doesn't mean he's going to lose his job anytime soon.
TakiToki
Footballguy
Campbell and Collins are actually both playing better than their numbers reflect, especially Campbell. Dropped passes and penalties have cost the Redskins dearly in the red zone. I don't think either of them are on the verge of being benched. Quinn hasn't played too well, but he probably has a decently long leash as well.
I really don't think there's too much stuff brewing in this regard. Yeah, I could see KC taking a shot with Croyle, to see if he's potentially the guy, Cassel's contract be damned. But other than that, QB situations are more set than they are in most years going into week 3.
I really don't think there's too much stuff brewing in this regard. Yeah, I could see KC taking a shot with Croyle, to see if he's potentially the guy, Cassel's contract be damned. But other than that, QB situations are more set than they are in most years going into week 3.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Collins isn't the reason the Titans have been losing.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Russell and Quinn won't be benched because they are making too much money (and their teams won't be in contention anyway, so the "whoever gives them the best chance to win" argument is out the window). Same thing for Stafford and Sanchez (who is going to tail off in a few weeks -- just watch).
I'd like to cast a vote for Jake Delhomme (2nd-worst passer rating in the NFL), but I don't think Feeley or Matt Moore are any better than he is.
I'd like to cast a vote for Jake Delhomme (2nd-worst passer rating in the NFL), but I don't think Feeley or Matt Moore are any better than he is.
SuperGreen
Footballguy
obviously you haven't met todd haley yet. it would be his m.o. so far to bench the "franchise QB", contract or not, if he isn't happy with the results.
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jeter23
Footballguy
VY went to the Pro Bowl in 2007.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think his situation is different than Derrick Johnson, Bernard Pollard, Dwayne Bowe's, among others. The new regime has no ties to those two or any of the other players left over from the old one, Cassel was Pioli's pet free agent prize, it's going to take a lot more bad to get him benched.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Delhomme played well last weekend, and he gives his team the best chance to win. The Panthers have more problems on the defensive side of the ball than the offensive side of the ball.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Doesn't Cleveland owe Quinn a big bonus if he starts a majority of the games? I think he gets yanked this weekend as they get manhandled by the Ravens. DA gives them the best chance to win, at least there is a threat of a deep pass. I just don't think Mangini likes him at all. I could see Cleveland using door #3 late in the year, Ratliff.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Quinn followed by Delhomme
VaCatFan
Footballguy
Won't be Delhomme unless it's an injury. Fox and Hurney are tied to him now with the big extension. Benching admits they screwed up and they're not about to do that. Jake looked a lot better against Atlanta. Moore and Feely aren't the answer, so Carolina is going to live or die with Jake.(unless Smith takes a crowbar to his knee).
BaBastage
Footballguy
You
said it. Russell 19/54 317 yds, 1td, 2 ints. And it's actually worse than those stats read.
sho nuff
Footballguy
You are mistaken IMO.@ Jets@ JaxIndy@ NENot really a great stretch there. Jax is the easiest game and those games are usually close so it could go either way being on the road.That said...Collins has not been the reason for it. Though, I could see them trying to get VY some time if it keeps going bad for them.
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daveR
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Though he hasn't explicitly stated it as such, I get the same impression about Mangini's intent at QB. I think Quinn gets a long look.
baconisgood
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure DA is making more than Quinn this year.Jamarcus: No reason to bench him. they have nothing behind him and they might as well play him, lean on the running game, and hope he improves. Stafford: playing badly and has one of the more gifted backups in the league- but they are unlikely to bench him.Delhomme: Will be his usual fluky self and have 2-3 good games in a row, the coaching staff will pat themselves on the back for sticking with him and then he will throw 3 picks.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
But Collins isn't a struggling QB.
I think as long as an offense is struggling to score points, the load will always fall on the QB. I mean hell even on sports talk radio the topic of the Cowboys and Romo was brought up, if he has another bad game at what point does Kitna get a shot. I know thats radio and the meaning is to garner conversation on a topic but I think teams and front offices that are struggling even more so this year getting butts in seats are going to be more inclined to pull the trigger on a struggling or unproductive QB.
Maroney=Sped
Footballguy
He went into the booby hatch in 2008. It's still a valid point, however I'd say Quinn is more vulnerable than Collins simply because Collins is a steadier vet who at least has proven something while Quinn has yet to prove a thing at this level. Collins' major enemy IMHO is continued losses, even if he is doing OK. I could see Fisher deciding at 2-4 or something to use this season to reexamine Young to see if there's any future there in preparation for this coming offseason.jeter23 said:
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
I think you have to combine with question with another question: "Which NFL teams (with shaky starters) have backup QBs capable of being fantasy starters?" That list is pretty small:
Carolina - was Feeley ever startable?
Cleveland - Anderson
Denver - Simms
Detroit - Culpepper
St. Louis - Boller
Oakland - both Frye and Gradkowski were busts as starters in the past, but they'd certainly be an improvement over Russell.
Tampa - McCown??
Carolina - was Feeley ever startable?
Cleveland - Anderson
Denver - Simms
Detroit - Culpepper
St. Louis - Boller
Oakland - both Frye and Gradkowski were busts as starters in the past, but they'd certainly be an improvement over Russell.
Tampa - McCown??
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Winning games is probably the only performance Fisher is interested in. Titans have other issues, but I'm not sure how long they stick with a guy who probably won't be on their roster next year if they keep tanking. Collins only kept the job last year because he was winning games.LittlePhatty said:
daveR
Footballguy
If Quinn gets 70% of the snaps (I think) the escalators kick in & his contract becomes very large for future years.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I'm surprised by how few are saying this. This is a team that won their division last year, have lost some games because they can't make a big play, have a potentially dominant running game and have a young guy that is supposed to take over next year. The question is not if, but when. If Penny can't get the safeties more than 10 yards off the LOS, Henne will need to so Ronnie and Ricky have room to breathe.ETA - Collins is playing well, and has been. Not a candidate IMO.Quinn has potential to see the bench.Al Davis is to stubborn and delusional to bench his #1 overall pick and would kick a coach that tried square in the nutz.The Lions didn't expect to win, and will tolerate Stafford's growing pains even if 'Pepper was better.Sanchez has earned his job.Favre sells too many tickets.Haven't seen Cassel much...Sure, you can bench Bulger. What does it matter. You could also send Jackson out on offense by himself. 1 vs 11! Denver has dodged bullets with Orton. I have always thought Simms was vastly underrated.
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Mookie Blaylock
Footballguy
Romo is the guy that deserves it the most, IMO. I'm all for the Cowboys losing though, so I'm good with Jerry not benching him.
sinatravolta
Footballguy
I don't think it will be Campbell. He has really played fine so far. Plus the only guy on the bench is Todd Collins. Did fine in Saunders' offense because he'd been running it in practice for years. But he's not the future and not a guy who anyone would expect to somehow take the 'skins to the promised land this year. So there's really no reason to put him in, even if Campbell began to struggle.
SuperGreen
Footballguy
yes because if luke mccown can't save your job, who can?
Correct me if im wrong but JDR is the same coach who cut Byron Leftwich (shocking everybody) in favor of Garrardyes because if luke mccown can't save your job, who can?
I dont think it will be either.these are young QB's who need to play in order to improve. They will have a certain amount of good will on their side because of their Youth.The players who are most likely to be replaced would be veterans who should play better and who dont have upside.I'm thinking guys like Delhomme, Leftwich, Bulger. These guys are likely on a shorter leash because they are veterans and if they play poorly the arguement will be that they should know better.5-ish Finkle said:
FavreCo
Footballguy
He also hired in meathead as an asst. HC. after the disaster in Minnesota. The guy is clueless.Correct me if im wrong but JDR is the same coach who cut Byron Leftwich (shocking everybody) in favor of Garrardyes because if luke mccown can't save your job, who can?
footballnerd
Footballguy
Kevin Kolb
TommyGilmore
Footballguy
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