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First Round Storylines, Subplots, Cliffhangers, and Red Herrings (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Sigmund Bloom
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Liltee8869
Footballguy
link doesn't work Bloom!
try it now
Liltee8869
Footballguy
Works now, thanks man!
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Mmmmmmm. Herring. 
(Cool article, Bloom!
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(Cool article, Bloom!
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MPhilly03
Footballguy
Bloom, yet another fine piece. Three quick things:
1. Does your site have a list of all the picks (or a link to a list of all the picks from round 1 to 7)? I was looking for it but could not seem to find it.
2. Will you posting information about past drafts on your site? Maybe the actual picks or something along those lines?
3. What do you think the chances are of the Eagles trading down in round one. I am thinking that they could trade down from 26 and maybe pick up the Jets two second rounders. Use the first one on a safety and maybe package their second and the Jets second to slide up and take Leonard. The other thing discussed here in Philly would be moving Sheldon Brown to safety and drafting a CB instead. I'll hang up and listen (read).
Thanks!
1. Does your site have a list of all the picks (or a link to a list of all the picks from round 1 to 7)? I was looking for it but could not seem to find it.
2. Will you posting information about past drafts on your site? Maybe the actual picks or something along those lines?
3. What do you think the chances are of the Eagles trading down in round one. I am thinking that they could trade down from 26 and maybe pick up the Jets two second rounders. Use the first one on a safety and maybe package their second and the Jets second to slide up and take Leonard. The other thing discussed here in Philly would be moving Sheldon Brown to safety and drafting a CB instead. I'll hang up and listen (read).
Thanks!
My 7 round mock (done before the Dante Hall trade) - I really want to release one last update to this before the draft, but we are ridiculously busy.Everything you'd ever want to know about past drafts
I could definitely see just about any team picking from NE's 24 on in the first trading down. There's a pretty even level of talent from about 15/20th best player to the 40th.
redman
Footballguy
One of the interesting picks early on is the Redskins' 1.06., the reason being that the players who figure to be available there either don't fit the needs of the Redskins (e.g. Quinn, Peterson, Russell, Thomas, Landry) or don't seem to justify getting drafted that high (Adams, Anderson, Branch, Okoye). They very much want to trade down.
The interesting part is that because they have virtually no idea who will be there, there are a multitude of trade-down scenarios that you have to contemplate based upon which players are available.
If Quinn is there, the Dolphins are supposedly front-runners to trade up in front of Minny.
The Falcons supposedly covet Landry and may trade up to get him.
If Peterson is there, the Bills may want to trade up to get him.
If Thomas is there, the Texans may try to trade up.
It's a strange pick because the Redskins really don't want to be at that point in the draft given their needs and the talent available, and yet there are a number of players who could be coveted by other teams.
The interesting part is that because they have virtually no idea who will be there, there are a multitude of trade-down scenarios that you have to contemplate based upon which players are available.
If Quinn is there, the Dolphins are supposedly front-runners to trade up in front of Minny.
The Falcons supposedly covet Landry and may trade up to get him.
If Peterson is there, the Bills may want to trade up to get him.
If Thomas is there, the Texans may try to trade up.
It's a strange pick because the Redskins really don't want to be at that point in the draft given their needs and the talent available, and yet there are a number of players who could be coveted by other teams.
No matter what happens when Washington is on the clock at 6, I have a feeling it will part of one of the biggest stories of the first round.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I still think it makes a tone of sense for something to happen with the Bears there with Briggs.
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
I noticed the very last pick being Jeff SamajIcantspellit and it got me thinking. Bloom, if he actually decided to play football instead of baseball, where do you think he would have stacked up with the other WR? Me personally, I think he would have been #2 after CJ.
In between the second and third tier of WRs, a first day, but not a first round pick.
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
Really, wow is it because he is not Ted Ginn speed? I guess I was very impressed by his diving catches and big plays. That guy was all about production. Damn, that means the Chargers could have had a probowl WR in the 3rd rd. Can you call him up and tell him to quit baseball?
He's not particularly quick or fast, and I honestly believe he would have projected as more of a possession type #2, except he's not particularly physical either. He made 100% the right decision by going to baseball.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
He was mentioned by some scouts as having the most electric stuff during spring training this year. I think he'd be smart to stick with the diamond. Somebody's gonna waste a draft pick if they take him.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The Broncos are only $2million below the cap. Not enough to sign all their picks.
I believe it's a near certainty that the Broncs will trade up in the draft. If not to #2, then to #10-ish.
I believe it's a near certainty that the Broncs will trade up in the draft. If not to #2, then to #10-ish.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Since when have the Broncos cared about the salary cap?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I dunno. I thought the only team that didn't care about the cap was Washington.Do the Broncs normally run close to the limit?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Huh. I did not know that.
redman
Footballguy
Stereotypes are a powerful thing. Winning removes a lot of bad smell, and Snyder and Cerrato are viewed differently than Bowlen and Shanny so the 'Skins catch flak for being cap-careless while the Broncos sign the entire Browns D-line and a clown like Daryl Gardener to long term deals and nobody says a word.
KoolKat
Footballguy
Don't forget Dale Carter at the end of his career. Or Anthony Miller.I like Andy's idea though, I believe being this close to the cap, we are more likely to give up enough to land CJ2.Stereotypes are a powerful thing. Winning removes a lot of bad smell, and Snyder and Cerrato are viewed differently than Bowlen and Shanny so the 'Skins catch flak for being cap-careless while the Broncos sign the entire Browns D-line and a clown like Daryl Gardener to long term deals and nobody says a word.
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Re your Browns possibly trading down scenario with Calvin available, figured I'd play a little more "what if" and ask-Do you get the impression they are happy with Braylon?
What do you think he could fetch in trade pick wise?
OR
Detroit II, would it be wrong to draft another top WR? Have they ruined this theory for future teams or do you still think(if ya did before) it's a viable offensive solution?
nygiants56
Footballguy
CJ has the hands/ball skills of Larry Fitz, and is faster,accelerates faster..
detroit seems married to Gaimes Adams if they can't trade out of #2.
Russell's red flag is that he doesn't work hard enough, etc, but can be the best QB in the league with a good QB coach on his tail every day..thinks his ceiling is limitless..does think Russell winds up #1 or #2..
thinks Quinn is going to be so/so,nothing special, limited ceiling..Weiss might be blowing smoke about him..
talking about Joe Thomas, Mayock likes him, not real aggressive, but is very flexible, a key component to an o-lineman..
AD's inability to stay healthy, big questions, says Marshall Faulk was killing him on the air today,saying he couldn't make it 12 straight games in college two consecutive years, how in the world will he make it
a full 16 game season?!?...but, says he's a very good RB , a top 5 pick, with caveat emptor written on him..
Thinks Buffalo is taking a safety or CB/DB at #12..
Kills Jarrett , USC..says the he can't get off the line against a shutdown corner, at all...better than Mike Williams, but not a first round pick, and will not transition well to the NFL..despite Mike and the Dog praising Jarrett, Mayock bashes him,saying against Ark., he couldn't do a $#^@ thing getting off the line...he's going to get stuffed at next level. says don't overdraft him..
Loves Ginn as a return man, but also says he hasn't seen a WR 'get on top' ( get past) a CB as quick or as well as Ginn does, possibly ever...he's one of the fastest guys he's ever seen...
thinks Olsen ( TE) to the Jets in round 1 is a perfect fit.
thinks the Center from USC, is going to be a pro bowler for the next decade, a 2nd rounder..
thinks Lynch is going to slide past GB, and possibly further...
detroit seems married to Gaimes Adams if they can't trade out of #2.
Russell's red flag is that he doesn't work hard enough, etc, but can be the best QB in the league with a good QB coach on his tail every day..thinks his ceiling is limitless..does think Russell winds up #1 or #2..
thinks Quinn is going to be so/so,nothing special, limited ceiling..Weiss might be blowing smoke about him..
talking about Joe Thomas, Mayock likes him, not real aggressive, but is very flexible, a key component to an o-lineman..
AD's inability to stay healthy, big questions, says Marshall Faulk was killing him on the air today,saying he couldn't make it 12 straight games in college two consecutive years, how in the world will he make it
a full 16 game season?!?...but, says he's a very good RB , a top 5 pick, with caveat emptor written on him..
Thinks Buffalo is taking a safety or CB/DB at #12..
Kills Jarrett , USC..says the he can't get off the line against a shutdown corner, at all...better than Mike Williams, but not a first round pick, and will not transition well to the NFL..despite Mike and the Dog praising Jarrett, Mayock bashes him,saying against Ark., he couldn't do a $#^@ thing getting off the line...he's going to get stuffed at next level. says don't overdraft him..
Loves Ginn as a return man, but also says he hasn't seen a WR 'get on top' ( get past) a CB as quick or as well as Ginn does, possibly ever...he's one of the fastest guys he's ever seen...
thinks Olsen ( TE) to the Jets in round 1 is a perfect fit.
thinks the Center from USC, is going to be a pro bowler for the next decade, a 2nd rounder..
thinks Lynch is going to slide past GB, and possibly further...
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I started watching tape specifically reading between the lines to see what kind of football player he was, instead of evaluating specific skills, after Cecil and I talked about Olsen. I saw a guy who just didn't relish contact or the intensity of the game. I would be angry if my team drafted him unless it was in the 2nd round.
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nygiants56
Footballguy
said to be faster than Shockey, but a far worse blocker...good hands, but again,not on that top level like Shockey or Witten..for the Jets, tho, he could be a perfect fit, they need someone to work the middle while TJ works underneath,and cotchery/coles work the deep spots..
