First Stab at Playoffs Rankings/Draft Discussion Thread (1 Viewer)

[Sigmund Bloom]

The thing about playoffs rankings is that the last and most important step is tweaking them to reflect your beliefs on who will advance, and who will win the SB, so tiers might be a better way to think about it. Heres a first stab at rough rankings reflecting my bias of expected games, assuming PPR, 6 team - I reserve the right to tweak these as the week goes on. Overall across position ranking will come later. Please feel free to question/throw out your own/post whatever comes to mind when considering 2010 playoff FF drafts.

Elite QB(all should be gone in first 3-4 rounds) - very even tier, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers will likely go early, and the rest of the group won't be far behind. This list really shows the importance of having a good QB when it comes to getting to the postseason.

Rivers

Favre

Manning

Rodgers

Romo

Brady

Brees

Warner

McNabb

Risk/reward QB

Flacco

Sanchez

Palmer

Kolb

Leinart

Elite RB (all should be gone in first 3-4 rounds) - Only Peterson worth a premium pick because studs like MJD/ChrisJohnson/Gore stayed home, and Rice looks to be one-and-done. Too much risk that Grant, Barber, TJ could be quiet in first round losses to justify picking them before the 4th/5th round.

Peterson

LT

Addai

Rice

Grant

TJ

MB3

PThomas

Benson

Risk/Reward RB - very deep group and you can probably do just fine not taking an RB til the 6th/7th in start 3 WR PPR contests.

FJones

Wells

Hightower

Westbrook

RBush

Sproles

CTaylor

Faulk

McCoy

DBrown

Maroney

Greene

McGahee

SMorris

MBell

Roster Filler RB

Bjackson

Tolbert

Weaver

Choice

FTaylor

McClain

BScott

LJ

Elite WR (all should be gone in first 4-5 rounds) - Like QB, very flat and will vary based on people's playoff prognostications. Wayne and Fitz will go earlier than their place in my rankings. Starting your draft with three of this list and a QB isn't a bad way to go in start 3 WR PPR.

VJax

Rice

RMoss

Austin

Wayne

Colston

Fitz

Jennings

Driver

Djackson

Edelman

Meachem

Harvin

Risk/Reward WR - very deep because of how many offenses use their 3rd WR extensively

Floyd

Breaston

Garcon

Collie

Cotchery

Bedwards

Berrian

Mason

Henderson

Ochocinco

Crayton

Maclin

Boldin

Avant

Doucet

Naanee

BSmith

Caldwell

Coles

RoyWill

Clayton

Roster Filler WR

JaJones

Aiken

Ogletree

Nelson

LMoore

DeWilliams

KWashington

Urban

Elite TE (all gone in first 5-6 rounds) - Gates Clark and Witten are in play pretty much from the first pick on, and Finley would be if he played like he did late during the whole season. In 6 team leagues Shiancoe/Celek = value & reason to be one of the last to take a starting TE in 5th/6th.

Gates

DClark

Witten

Finley

Celek

Shiancoe

Risk/reward TE - weak group here, don't get caught without a top 6 TE!

Shockey

Watson

Keller

Heap

Roster Filler TE

DThomas

Baker

Patrick

Lee

Foschi

PK

Kaeding

Longwell

Vinatieri

Gostkowski

Suisham

Hartley

Feely

Crosby

Rackers

Akers

Cundiff

Graham

DEF - jets D a great late pick as they could have one of the biggest weeks of any D/ST in week 1 vs CIN. Harvin/Sproles bonus for MIN/SD, NO/GB/PHI also good playmaking Ds

MIN

SD

IND

NYJ

GB

DAL

NE

NO

PHI

ARI

BAL

CIN

(to be continued)

 

[CentralPA]

Thanks alot Sigmund. I do my draft tonight and this tiered approach should help out alot with decision making.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Another way to think about it is picking SB combos, and by the end of the draft, being able to say "If its SD/MIN SD/DAL NE/MIN or NE/DAL i'm looking good" - consolidate your picks into "shares" of a team so that you aren't spread too thin. If you only have a small slice of just about every team, you are very unlikely to win unless you nail the players who score TDs.

 

[CentralPA]

Right now I have mainly SD, MINN, an DAL players in my sights. I should probably throw NO in there too but I think they get bounced early, they may last until the NFC Championship though.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Strong stuff here Bloom For those of us who partake in playoff drafts, this information creates a nice base.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Right now I have mainly SD, MINN, an DAL players in my sights. I should probably throw NO in there too but I think they get bounced early, they may last until the NFC Championship though.

This from an Eagles fan. I will likely avoid all Dallas/Phi players. While Dallas certainly has the edge here, that is one tough first round matchup to call.

 

[CentralPA]

Right now I have mainly SD, MINN, an DAL players in my sights. I should probably throw NO in there too but I think they get bounced early, they may last until the NFC Championship though.

This from an Eagles fan. I will likely avoid all Dallas/Phi players. While Dallas certainly has the edge here, that is one tough first round matchup to call.

Your correct, this coming weeks game will be much closer but I just think the Eagles don't matchp well with the Boys right now even if there offense plays there best game. The Cowboys D can counter their blitzing and the Eagles obvious can't rush just 4 guys. The linebacker are a glaring weakness for the Eagles and I think that plays well with the Cowboys strengths.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

For a cheaper QB pick with high upside I like Warner. Favored @ home in decent weather with the highest vegas total of the 4 wildcard games. If he defies board predictions and survives to next week he'll be playing in a dome game, giving him a chance for 2 decent scoring games.

 

[Joe T]

Another way to think about it is picking SB combos, and by the end of the draft, being able to say "If its SD/MIN SD/DAL NE/MIN or NE/DAL i'm looking good" - consolidate your picks into "shares" of a team so that you aren't spread too thin. If you only have a small slice of just about every team, you are very unlikely to win unless you nail the players who score TDs.

I think a better way to look at it is teams likely to play 3 or more games. So you are not picking Super Bowl Combos, but Conference Championships.A guy from the wildcard round who makes it to the Conference Championship is more valuable than a guy with a bye week who makes it to the Super Bowl.

 

[CentralPA]

For a cheaper QB pick with high upside I like Warner. Favored @ home in decent weather with the highest vegas total of the 4 wildcard games. If he defies board predictions and survives to next week he'll be playing in a dome game, giving him a chance for 2 decent scoring games.

Warner in domes is money!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Another way to think about it is picking SB combos, and by the end of the draft, being able to say "If its SD/MIN SD/DAL NE/MIN or NE/DAL i'm looking good" - consolidate your picks into "shares" of a team so that you aren't spread too thin. If you only have a small slice of just about every team, you are very unlikely to win unless you nail the players who score TDs.

I think a better way to look at it is teams likely to play 3 or more games. So you are not picking Super Bowl Combos, but Conference Championships.A guy from the wildcard round who makes it to the Conference Championship is more valuable than a guy with a bye week who makes it to the Super Bowl.

The flipside of that argument is that if you nail 3-4 key players from the two Super Bowl teams, even if they are first-round bye teams, you can compensate with later picks of solid players from teams people have pegged as one-and-done teams. There's no way to compensate for not having any key players in the Super Bowl. If I take Rivers/Favre/Brees/Manning early and I'm right, then I can wait and fill my week 1 slot with the value of Sanchez/Flacco/Palmer. If I take Rodgers/Romo/Warner/McNabb/Brady as my QB1, then I either have to take another one in the next round or risk having no QB1 after week 1 - death for a team. Same goes for your RB1 being LT/Peterson/Addai vs. Barber/Grant/Wells and WR1 being Vjax/Rice/Colston/Wayne vs Austin/Desean/Fitz - of course you can turn that inside out and try to hit on value picks like Floyd/Collie/Henderson/Berrian/Sproles/CTaylor/RBush - the rub that with deeper expected games and a lesser pool of 4 teams, the bye week players will take on a premium as the draft goes on, while week 1 values will passed on more by teams that look at their week 1 lineup and like it.Putting the WC->ConfChamp teams strategy into play is also going to be tougher this year. The AFC WC crop is looking weak, and the NFC WC crop has four teams that could go to the Super Bowl that could also easily be one and done. I think spending at least 3-4 out of your first 6 picks on the bye week teams you like and then peppering your roster with supporting cast players from the deep passing games of the NFC WC teams in the mid rounds is a good strategy.

 

[Joe T]

Another way to think about it is picking SB combos, and by the end of the draft, being able to say "If its SD/MIN SD/DAL NE/MIN or NE/DAL i'm looking good" - consolidate your picks into "shares" of a team so that you aren't spread too thin. If you only have a small slice of just about every team, you are very unlikely to win unless you nail the players who score TDs.

I think a better way to look at it is teams likely to play 3 or more games. So you are not picking Super Bowl Combos, but Conference Championships.A guy from the wildcard round who makes it to the Conference Championship is more valuable than a guy with a bye week who makes it to the Super Bowl.

The flipside of that argument is that if you nail 3-4 key players from the two Super Bowl teams, even if they are first-round bye teams, you can compensate with later picks of solid players from teams people have pegged as one-and-done teams. There's no way to compensate for not having any key players in the Super Bowl. If I take Rivers/Favre/Brees/Manning early and I'm right, then I can wait and fill my week 1 slot with the value of Sanchez/Flacco/Palmer. If I take Rodgers/Romo/Warner/McNabb/Brady as my QB1, then I either have to take another one in the next round or risk having no QB1 after week 1 - death for a team. Same goes for your RB1 being LT/Peterson/Addai vs. Barber/Grant/Wells and WR1 being Vjax/Rice/Colston/Wayne vs Austin/Desean/Fitz - of course you can turn that inside out and try to hit on value picks like Floyd/Collie/Henderson/Berrian/Sproles/CTaylor/RBush - the rub that with deeper expected games and a lesser pool of 4 teams, the bye week players will take on a premium as the draft goes on, while week 1 values will passed on more by teams that look at their week 1 lineup and like it.Putting the WC->ConfChamp teams strategy into play is also going to be tougher this year. The AFC WC crop is looking weak, and the NFC WC crop has four teams that could go to the Super Bowl that could also easily be one and done. I think spending at least 3-4 out of your first 6 picks on the bye week teams you like and then peppering your roster with supporting cast players from the deep passing games of the NFC WC teams in the mid rounds is a good strategy.

If you are in a 6 man playoff league, well then it is probably safe to get one of the four with a bye week IF you assume they are more likely to make the Super Bowl (an assumption I happen to disagree with).History proves this is not typically the case. You can be just as right and even potentially more right with Rodgers, McNabb, Romo, Warner etc because they have the opportunity for that fourth game.To me it comes down to who I believe will make the conference championship. If I think it will be Green Bay versus Minnesota in the NFC, then Rodgers has a lot more value than Favre because he has the potential for an extra game.There are way too many factors to consider. If you are in a huge contest, Rodgers, McNabb, Romo have a lot more value because you are going to need home runs... not play it safe. In 6 man playoff leagues, obviously the strategy is very different.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Some early thoughts:

There are two solid QB strategies. Commit to your SB favorite early if they are a bye-week QB (Favre/Manning/Rivers/Brees) and take a Palmer/Sanchez/Flacco later on, OR take two QBs between QB6/7-9 and hope one makes a run
The later QB strategy seems to fit picking at either turn well. You also might be able to get your two QBs who face each other in week 1 if you like that route
I expect QBs to fly off the board as there should be at least one owner in every draft that has a conviction about each of the NFC WC teams and a NE backer - 3/4 turn might be ideal for later QB strategy
There are lots of value RB picks later on in PPR format - Sproles/Taylor/the NO group/Felix/the PHI group/the ARI combo/the NE group - and guys like Benson, Rice, and TJones could slide in the rush to stock up on players from teams that people believe will go deep in the playoffs. Other than Adrian Peterson, no RB is worth a first, and it might be hard to convince me to spend a 2nd on any RB with the shotgun strategy available later on.
Plenty of stud WRs, and guys explosive enough to justify a 2nd/3rd round pick even with a one-and-done in potential shootouts like GB/ARI and PHI/DAL. Watch this Boldin knee situation as it could make Breaston and Doucet key players. GB/ARI/PHI/IND/NO/MIN and even arguably SD (Naanee) and DAL (Roy Williams) all contribute 3 viable WRs, and even third options from CIN (Caldwell/Coles) and NYJ (BSmith) could contribute in a one-and-done. Edelman a possible massive value here depending on how savvy your league is.
Gates, Witten, and Clark should be second-round picks at the latest and if you believe in their teams, starting off the draft with their QB/TE combo sure sounds good to me. Finley/Rodgers ain't bad either if you are liking GB, and you might land them in the 2nd/3rd. Shiancoe and Celek aren't bad table scraps and the teams that take one of the four studs will let them drop unless you have a flex, so you can also probably wait, but don't wait past the 5th/6th round because a team that takes a stud early might not be THAT convinced of their team's prospects and Shiancoe/Celek will look like great hedge plays after stocking up on 3-4 RB/WRs because of their upside.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Another way to think about it is picking SB combos, and by the end of the draft, being able to say "If its SD/MIN SD/DAL NE/MIN or NE/DAL i'm looking good" - consolidate your picks into "shares" of a team so that you aren't spread too thin. If you only have a small slice of just about every team, you are very unlikely to win unless you nail the players who score TDs.

I think a better way to look at it is teams likely to play 3 or more games. So you are not picking Super Bowl Combos, but Conference Championships.A guy from the wildcard round who makes it to the Conference Championship is more valuable than a guy with a bye week who makes it to the Super Bowl.

The flipside of that argument is that if you nail 3-4 key players from the two Super Bowl teams, even if they are first-round bye teams, you can compensate with later picks of solid players from teams people have pegged as one-and-done teams. There's no way to compensate for not having any key players in the Super Bowl. If I take Rivers/Favre/Brees/Manning early and I'm right, then I can wait and fill my week 1 slot with the value of Sanchez/Flacco/Palmer. If I take Rodgers/Romo/Warner/McNabb/Brady as my QB1, then I either have to take another one in the next round or risk having no QB1 after week 1 - death for a team. Same goes for your RB1 being LT/Peterson/Addai vs. Barber/Grant/Wells and WR1 being Vjax/Rice/Colston/Wayne vs Austin/Desean/Fitz - of course you can turn that inside out and try to hit on value picks like Floyd/Collie/Henderson/Berrian/Sproles/CTaylor/RBush - the rub that with deeper expected games and a lesser pool of 4 teams, the bye week players will take on a premium as the draft goes on, while week 1 values will passed on more by teams that look at their week 1 lineup and like it.Putting the WC->ConfChamp teams strategy into play is also going to be tougher this year. The AFC WC crop is looking weak, and the NFC WC crop has four teams that could go to the Super Bowl that could also easily be one and done. I think spending at least 3-4 out of your first 6 picks on the bye week teams you like and then peppering your roster with supporting cast players from the deep passing games of the NFC WC teams in the mid rounds is a good strategy.

If you are in a 6 man playoff league, well then it is probably safe to get one of the four with a bye week IF you assume they are more likely to make the Super Bowl (an assumption I happen to disagree with).History proves this is not typically the case. You can be just as right and even potentially more right with Rodgers, McNabb, Romo, Warner etc because they have the opportunity for that fourth game.To me it comes down to who I believe will make the conference championship. If I think it will be Green Bay versus Minnesota in the NFC, then Rodgers has a lot more value than Favre because he has the potential for an extra game.There are way too many factors to consider. If you are in a huge contest, Rodgers, McNabb, Romo have a lot more value because you are going to need home runs... not play it safe. In 6 man playoff leagues, obviously the strategy is very different.

I think even in an 8 team draft, everyone will believe enough in their #1 to have Palmer/Sanchez/Flacco slide and become values.Interesting, under your philosophy, with all 4 NFC WC teams having a legitimate shot to go the Super Bowl, and all 4 having very good fantasy QBs, the bye week QBs could slide to the late 2nd or early 3rd - maybe going Peterson or the #1 WR from the bye team you like the best is the way to go in the first this year. I think we agree on the most important point - that you have to take a QB on a team you believe in - and that means taking him with one of your first two picks, unless you somehow give CIN/BAL/NYJ a shot to win two games - If I believe NE wins 2 games, Brady is worth a first, and I have to take him in the second. Same goes for any of the NFC WC QBs.

 

[Godsbrother]

Great thread that needs bumped.

FWIW here are my top 12 QBs ranked:

QB

Rivers

Manning

Favre

Rodgers

Brees

Romo

Brady

McNabb

Warner

Flacco

Palmer

Sanchez

 

[H.K.]

FYI:

(FFToolbox) New Orleans Saints running back Pierre Thomas left the team's week 16 game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the second quarter and didn't return. When everyone went searching for a reason why, we heard that Thomas was dealing with some bruised ribs. OK, fine. He was held out of Sunday's game as a precaution since the Saints had already clinched the No. 1 seed in the NFC playoffs. But now we know that Thomas will enter the playoffs with a little more serious injury than we were initially led to believe. The New Orleans Times-Picayune's Jeff Duncan said on his Twitter account Monday that Thomas told him that he has three broken ribs. Thomas said that he still plans to play when the Saints' postseason begins next weekend and that he will wear a flak jacket to protect his injured ribs.Analysis: Exactly three broken ribs is becoming a popular injury. First Tom Brady, now Pierre Thomas. Thomas will have received about three weeks off since he last played when the Saints start their playoff run, so that should do Thomas some good. Of course, Mike Bell and Reggie Bush will get some carries, but Thomas will still receive the majority of the touches. I don't think the Saints will shy away from Thomas just because of his ribs.

(TheHuddle) AZCardinals.com, reports Arizona Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin (ankle) had an MRI Monday, Jan. 4, and head coach Ken Whisenhunt will take a wait-and-see approach as to whether Boldin will be available for the team's playoff game.Analysis: Boldin's status is clearly headed to what could be a game-time decison. If Boldin is unable to go then Steve Breaston would likely see a more significant role in the offense this week. Check back closer to gametime for updates on Boldin's status.

 

[Rounders]

Anyone have any drafts yet? I would love to see how some of them went.

 

[Joe T]

Anyone have any drafts yet? I would love to see how some of them went.

We are in round 16 right now. Would you like a PM?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Anyone have any drafts yet? I would love to see how some of them went.

We are in round 16 right now. Would you like a PM?

I would.......I've got a draft tonight.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

 

[Rounders]

Anyone have any drafts yet? I would love to see how some of them went.

We are in round 16 right now. Would you like a PM?

Please, very interested.

 

[Joe T]

PMs Sent.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

I think PHI, GB, ARI can all go into NO and win the way the teams have been playing lately. NO will necessarily face a team that had just beaten a very tough first round opponent and one that is loose and ready to play, whereas the Saints will be coming off a one-month period without a victory, and their starters won't have played three weeks, last time being a loss to the lowly Bucs at home. Not feeling a Saints run to the Super Bowl even though I'd love to see it happen.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

PMs Sent.

Gracias.

 

[zoobird]

In a traditional format, I'd be looking to 'handcuff' my stars with players on a team they're likely to play in the early rounds. That way if your start gets knocked out, it's likely that your backup will still be alive.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

I think PHI, GB, ARI can all go into NO and win the way the teams have been playing lately. NO will necessarily face a team that had just beaten a very tough first round opponent and one that is loose and ready to play, whereas the Saints will be coming off a one-month period without a victory, and their starters won't have played three weeks, last time being a loss to the lowly Bucs at home. Not feeling a Saints run to the Super Bowl even though I'd love to see it happen.

Fair enough. The NFC is loaded, I agree. I still think that NO should be the team to beat, and they are the only team in the league who averages over 400 yards/game. Yes, they could be one and done. But I'm not betting on that.

 

[CentralPA]

Philip Rivers QB

Joe Flacco QB

Kevin Faulk RB

LaDainian Tomlinson RB

Marion Barber RB

Shonn Greene RB

Larry Fitzgerald WR

Jerricho Cotchery WR

Greg Jennings WR

Brad Smith WR

Legedu Naanee WR

Pierre Garcon WR

Visanthe Shiancoe

Antonio Gates TE

Adam Vinatieri K

Shaun Suisham K

New York Jets

San Diego Chargers

My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Philip Rivers QB Joe Flacco QB Kevin Faulk RB LaDainian Tomlinson RB Marion Barber RB Shonn Greene RB Larry Fitzgerald WR Jerricho Cotchery WR Greg Jennings WR Brad Smith WR Legedu Naanee WR Pierre Garcon WR Visanthe Shiancoe Antonio Gates TE Adam Vinatieri K Shaun Suisham K New York Jets San Diego Chargers My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

Could you let us know in what round you got each and how many teams were in your draft?

 

[djcolts]

Stover is going to be the Colts' post-season kicker.

http://indyfootballreport.com/index.php/archives/4953

 

[CentralPA]

Stover is going to be the Colts' post-season kicker.

http://indyfootballreport.com/index.php/archives/4953

That was the one dumb move I made. I had not known Vinateri was out that long. If that is one thing I need to change next season is to pay more attention my kickers.

 

[CentralPA]

Philip Rivers QB 1st, 1st overallJoe Flacco QB 9th, 49th overallKevin Faulk RB 10th, 60th overallLaDainian Tomlinson RB 5th, 25th overall Marion Barber RB 6th, 36th overallShonn Greene RB 13th, 73rd overallLarry Fitzgerald WR 2nd, 12th overallJerricho Cotchery WR 11th, 61st overallGreg Jennings WR 4th, 24th overallBrad Smith WR 18th, 108th overall (last pick)Legedu Naanee WR 15th, 85th overallPierre Garcon WR 8th, 48th overall Visanthe Shiancoe TE 7th, 37th overallAntonio Gates TE 3rd, 13th overallAdam Vinatieri K 12th, 72nd overall (bad pick)Shaun Suisham K 16th, 96th overallNew York Jets 17th, 97th overallSan Diego Chargers 14th, 84th overallThere are 6 teams and 18 rounds all together.My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Philip Rivers QB 1st, 1st overallJoe Flacco QB 9th, 49th overallKevin Faulk RB 10th, 60th overallLaDainian Tomlinson RB 5th, 25th overall Marion Barber RB 6th, 36th overallShonn Greene RB 13th, 73rd overallLarry Fitzgerald WR 2nd, 12th overallJerricho Cotchery WR 11th, 61st overallGreg Jennings WR 4th, 24th overallBrad Smith WR 18th, 108th overall (last pick)Legedu Naanee WR 15th, 85th overallPierre Garcon WR 8th, 48th overall Visanthe Shiancoe TE 7th, 37th overallAntonio Gates TE 3rd, 13th overallAdam Vinatieri K 12th, 72nd overall (bad pick)Shaun Suisham K 16th, 96th overallNew York Jets 17th, 97th overallSan Diego Chargers 14th, 84th overallThere are 6 teams and 18 rounds all together.My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

Thanks very much. My draft will have 8 teams so it's going to be more difficult since there won't be enough QB's for each team to have 2. You've got a good team. Plenty of Chargers so you'll still be a force beyond the first weekend no matter what happens.

 

[CentralPA]

Philip Rivers QB 1st, 1st overallJoe Flacco QB 9th, 49th overallKevin Faulk RB 10th, 60th overallLaDainian Tomlinson RB 5th, 25th overall Marion Barber RB 6th, 36th overallShonn Greene RB 13th, 73rd overallLarry Fitzgerald WR 2nd, 12th overallJerricho Cotchery WR 11th, 61st overallGreg Jennings WR 4th, 24th overallBrad Smith WR 18th, 108th overall (last pick)Legedu Naanee WR 15th, 85th overallPierre Garcon WR 8th, 48th overall Visanthe Shiancoe TE 7th, 37th overallAntonio Gates TE 3rd, 13th overallAdam Vinatieri K 12th, 72nd overall (bad pick)Shaun Suisham K 16th, 96th overallNew York Jets 17th, 97th overallSan Diego Chargers 14th, 84th overallThere are 6 teams and 18 rounds all together.My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

Thanks very much. My draft will have 8 teams so it's going to be more difficult since there won't be enough QB's for each team to have 2. You've got a good team. Plenty of Chargers so you'll still be a force beyond the first weekend no matter what happens.

Probably should grab your QBs early if you can, same with TEs. I just basically followed Bloom's blue print. Oh, and don't draft Vinatieri!

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

In a traditional format, I'd be looking to 'handcuff' my stars with players on a team they're likely to play in the early rounds. That way if your start gets knocked out, it's likely that your backup will still be alive.

just be careful not spread your team too thin. You have to take stands on who you think will go deep into the playoffs to win one of these pools. You have to have your chips more concentrated on a few teams and have at least one of those teams advanced to the Super Bowl usually to win. If you draft Romo and MB3 early, taking McCoy and Avant later won't do you as much as good as Choice and Crayton, because the team with McNabb/Desean or McNabb/Celek will be ahead of you if PHI beats DAL anyway.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

In a traditional format, I'd be looking to 'handcuff' my stars with players on a team they're likely to play in the early rounds. That way if your start gets knocked out, it's likely that your backup will still be alive.

just be careful not spread your team too thin. You have to take stands on who you think will go deep into the playoffs to win one of these pools. You have to have your chips more concentrated on a few teams and have at least one of those teams advanced to the Super Bowl usually to win. If you draft Romo and MB3 early, taking McCoy and Avant later won't do you as much as good as Choice and Crayton, because the team with McNabb/Desean or McNabb/Celek will be ahead of you if PHI beats DAL anyway.

This is sound advice. In the past I've been burnt drafting best available player. Pick a team in the AFC and/or NFC, and roll with them.

 

[Joe T]

In a traditional format, I'd be looking to 'handcuff' my stars with players on a team they're likely to play in the early rounds. That way if your start gets knocked out, it's likely that your backup will still be alive.

just be careful not spread your team too thin. You have to take stands on who you think will go deep into the playoffs to win one of these pools. You have to have your chips more concentrated on a few teams and have at least one of those teams advanced to the Super Bowl usually to win. If you draft Romo and MB3 early, taking McCoy and Avant later won't do you as much as good as Choice and Crayton, because the team with McNabb/Desean or McNabb/Celek will be ahead of you if PHI beats DAL anyway.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I can't say it enough, the starting point in these drafts has nothing to do with players. Forecast the playoffs and decide who you think will go to Super Bowl. Your goal is to build a team that should be dominant if 2 or 3 different SB scenarios come about that you think are likely to happen.

In the AFC, you have to take a stand b/w IND and SD with one of your first two picks (or NE if you like them to go into SD and win in the div round).

In the NFC, you have to stick your neck out for at least one bye team or WC team. At the very least you should eliminate a bye team that you see as vulnerable. If you don't like either bye team, take a stand on the WC team or two you like best this weekend.

It's like a horse race. If you bet on most of the horses, you will lose money even though you are more likely to hold a winning ticket. You have to back 2 or 3 horses and hope for the best.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

You have basically cornered the SD offense. You're spread out pretty thin in the NFC, would have felt better if you had more consolidation and less conflict in your 2nd/4th/6th/7th combo. At least one of your 2nd/4th is one and done, and your 6th and 7th will play will play each other in the 2nd round if your 6th isn't one and done. Your only hope is Fitz turning into a one-man wrecking crew again this year. SD/ARI is best case scenarioSD/MIN, SD/DAL, SD/GB are ok, but I hope those offenses are spread out among your competitors instead of your 2 or 3 of your opponents having a stranglehold on them like you have on SDSD/PHI and SD/NO you are hurting. At least PHI and NO necessarily play each other if PHI wins.You can't really survive any other AFC team going to the Super Bowl except maybe Baltimore, and I hope no one lined up VJax and 2 of Floyd, Sproles, and Kaeding against you.A few things that would help you this weekend:- Dominant defensive performance by NYJ this weekend (I think it can happen)- Flacco lights up NE - Dallas wins a low scoring game- GB/ARI somehow ends up around 21-17I would have liked to see maybe Wells/Hightower/Breaston/Driver instead of Shiancoe. Shiancoe means you take a zero at TE week 1, and you have to take Gates assuming that you only need a week 1 TE - so waiting for Heap/Watson/Keller late would have been a fine strategy here.

Philip Rivers QB 1st, 1st overallJoe Flacco QB 9th, 49th overallKevin Faulk RB 10th, 60th overallLaDainian Tomlinson RB 5th, 25th overall Marion Barber RB 6th, 36th overallShonn Greene RB 13th, 73rd overallLarry Fitzgerald WR 2nd, 12th overallJerricho Cotchery WR 11th, 61st overallGreg Jennings WR 4th, 24th overallBrad Smith WR 18th, 108th overall (last pick)Legedu Naanee WR 15th, 85th overallPierre Garcon WR 8th, 48th overall Visanthe Shiancoe TE 7th, 37th overallAntonio Gates TE 3rd, 13th overallAdam Vinatieri K 12th, 72nd overall (bad pick)Shaun Suisham K 16th, 96th overallNew York Jets 17th, 97th overallSan Diego Chargers 14th, 84th overallThere are 6 teams and 18 rounds all together.My draft was this past Monday and I used Sigmund's MB list as a cheatsheet. It's not the greatest but I think I have a decent shot. I never realized how many Jets I had until I was done but I think the Jets can play atleast two game. But I have plenty of good Chargers so I hope they go to the Super Bowl.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

It is important to monitor your opponents roster to see if they are close to your level on your Super Bowl favorites. If they are, be willing to reach and break the seal on K/DEF a round or two early in the double digits rounds. You will likely spend 2-3 of your first five picks on your favorite and cobble together 1 or 2 secondary bets in the mid to late rounds, maybe anchored by one early pick.

Winning combos:

IND - Manning in the first, at 1-2 of Addai/Wayne/Clark. Maybe a DBrown to go with Addai or Garcon/Collie to go with Wayne. I would love kicking off a secondary bet with something a Garcon/Collie turn at 6/7 if I hadn't used most of my early picks on a bye team, and the top 4 got split up on at least 3 teams. I'm intrigued by Brown in a closer role and he may be a bigger piece of this offense than people expect.

SD - Rivers in the first, Vjax/Gates in the 2nd. LT and Sproles are cheap and potent at a weak position, get one of them. You can cobble together a secondary bet with one of the RBs, Floyd, and the K/DEF.

NE - Could end up in this one if you are a value drafter and can't pass on guys like Brady/Moss in the 2nd/3rd, or Edelman in 7th/8th. I could see cobbling together a secondary NE bet if Edelman fell too far w/o Brady/Moss b/c you can shotgun approach their RB corps cheaply and even add an Aiken or Watson late. Belichick rode Maroney in the 07/08 playoffs, it could be Morris or Taylor this year. You know Faulk will get his. Any NE RB is a fine pick in the double digit rounds.

CIN - Should be relatively easy to get Palmer and one of Benson/Ochocinco without spending a pick higher than a 4th. Caldwell is a value pick, if CIN makes a run he will have to be a quality secondary target for Palmer.

NYJ - make sure to get the D and Jones because if they are making a run, it is with those guys doing heavy lifting.

BAL - hope to get Rice in the 2nd and then target Mason/Flacco around the 8th/9th. Defense will play a big role in any run, make sure to bag them.

NO - Brees in the first and one of Colston/Meachem. The RB value is split up enough that it might relatively easy to put a Henderson/RB/K/DEF secondary bet.

MIN - Peterson in the first, Rice/Favre in the second. Harvin around the 5th/6th or Shiancoe around the 7th/8th. Whichever one of Taylor and Berrian that falls too far.

DAL - Two out of Romo/Austin/Witten in your first three picks is a must. Love the idea of Barber/FJones 6/7 turn to anchor a secondary bet, especially to go with a SD/IND heavy start.

ARI - Fitz/Warner with your 2nd and 3rd/4th. Breaston and an RB can be paired in the 6/7/8th as a secondary bet.

GB - Have to get Rodgers in the first if you believe in them. Rest of the offense is so split up that you only really need 1 or 2 other pieces, preferably Finley one of them.

PHI - Cheap for a big-time offense, McNabb/Jackson in the 3rd/4th. Westbrook/Celek pretty big values, can also anchor secondary bet.

 

[H.K.]

It is important to monitor your opponents roster to see if they are close to your level on your Super Bowl favorites. If they are, be willing to reach and break the seal on K/DEF a round or two early in the double digits rounds. You will likely spend 2-3 of your first five picks on your favorite and cobble together 1 or 2 secondary bets in the mid to late rounds, maybe anchored by one early pick.Winning combos:IND - Manning in the first, at 1-2 of Addai/Wayne/Clark. Maybe a DBrown to go with Addai or Garcon/Collie to go with Wayne. I would love kicking off a secondary bet with something a Garcon/Collie turn at 6/7 if I hadn't used most of my early picks on a bye team, and the top 4 got split up on at least 3 teams. I'm intrigued by Brown in a closer role and he may be a bigger piece of this offense than people expect.SD - Rivers in the first, Vjax/Gates in the 2nd. LT and Sproles are cheap and potent at a weak position, get one of them. You can cobble together a secondary bet with one of the RBs, Floyd, and the K/DEF. NE - Could end up in this one if you are a value drafter and can't pass on guys like Brady/Moss in the 2nd/3rd, or Edelman in 7th/8th. I could see cobbling together a secondary NE bet if Edelman fell too far w/o Brady/Moss b/c you can shotgun approach their RB corps cheaply and even add an Aiken or Watson late. Belichick rode Maroney in the 07/08 playoffs, it could be Morris or Taylor this year. You know Faulk will get his. Any NE RB is a fine pick in the double digit rounds.CIN - Should be relatively easy to get Palmer and one of Benson/Ochocinco without spending a pick higher than a 4th. Caldwell is a value pick, if CIN makes a run he will have to be a quality secondary target for Palmer.NYJ - make sure to get the D and Jones because if they are making a run, it is with those guys doing heavy lifting.BAL - hope to get Rice in the 2nd and then target Mason/Flacco around the 8th/9th. Defense will play a big role in any run, make sure to bag them.NO - Brees in the first and one of Colston/Meachem. The RB value is split up enough that it might relatively easy to put a Henderson/RB/K/DEF secondary bet.MIN - Peterson in the first, Rice/Favre in the second. Harvin around the 5th/6th or Shiancoe around the 7th/8th. Whichever one of Taylor and Berrian that falls too far. DAL - Two out of Romo/Austin/Witten in your first three picks is a must. Love the idea of Barber/FJones 6/7 turn to anchor a secondary bet, especially to go with a SD/IND heavy start.ARI - Fitz/Warner with your 2nd and 3rd/4th. Breaston and an RB can be paired in the 6/7/8th as a secondary bet.GB - Have to get Rodgers in the first if you believe in them. Rest of the offense is so split up that you only really need 1 or 2 other pieces, preferably Finley one of them. PHI - Cheap for a big-time offense, McNabb/Jackson in the 3rd/4th. Westbrook/Celek pretty big values, can also anchor secondary bet.

FWIW, we have a 6 team draft, 12 rounds. 2/2/3/1/1/1/2 Flex. Must draft one player from each team. Very challenging if anyone is interested in a different format.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Rookie RBs can end up being tremendous values because of their fresh legs... Donald Brown, Chris Wells, LeSean McCoy, and Shonn Greene could all become the "hot hand" for their offense, especially their team needs a finisher to protect a lead.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Rookie RBs can end up being tremendous values because of their fresh legs... Donald Brown, Chris Wells, LeSean McCoy, and Shonn Greene could all become the "hot hand" for their offense, especially their team needs a finisher to protect a lead.

Others that may be pretty fresh and may see more touches in the playoffs....Felix JonesD SprolesR BushOthers?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Rookie RBs can end up being tremendous values because of their fresh legs... Donald Brown, Chris Wells, LeSean McCoy, and Shonn Greene could all become the "hot hand" for their offense, especially their team needs a finisher to protect a lead.

Others that may be pretty fresh and may see more touches in the playoffs....Felix JonesD SprolesR BushOthers?

Weaver is decent longshot since he's the only power runner Philly has. McGahee also seems pretty fresh and if the Ravens go on a run, it'll be with 40+ carry games from their backfield.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

I pretty much overloaded on Indy/New Orleans/Green Bay.

Not sure how I feel about it.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I went after SD and Minnesota players hard.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I pretty much overloaded on Indy/New Orleans/Green Bay.Not sure how I feel about it.

GB/NO could be money if PHI can upset DAL and GB then goes into MIN and wins.

 

[Rounders]

I went into my draft thinking I would go after the NO/SD combo.....and chargers went quick....so I switched to a BPA strategy and may have hurt myself as I got all NFC players. I had the 5th pick out of 9. Standard Scoring.

QB - Brees (1)

RB - Barber (5), Wells (6), F.Jones (8)

WR - Fitz (2), Colston (3)

TE - Celek (4)

K - Hartley (7)

DEF - NO (9)

Go Saints!

 

[IHEARTFF]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

indeed

 

[Cassius]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

indeed

must've been a long month for you.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Saints getting severely underrated itt

indeed

must've been a long profitable month for you.

fyp