What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

***First Swing Mock Draft*** (1 Viewer)

Andy Dufresne

Footballguy
Well it's that time of year again where I read the opinions of a bunch of guys I don't know who are opining on a bunch of guys that I haven't seen play and give my expert opinion on their draft position based on what I think team needs matches availaibility.

In other words - this first one is pulled right from my nether regions.

But I like doing it because it draws in the local fans who do know their teams and guys who actually have seen these players play so we can talk about who is missing from 1st round consideration and who doesn't belong at all.

So anyway...here goes

1 . Kansas City Chiefs - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia

2 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia

3 . Oakland Raiders - Manti Te'o, ILB - Notre Dame

4 . Tennessee Titans - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah

5 . Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M

6 . Detroit Lions - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama

7 . Carolina Panthers - Keenan Allen, WR - California

8 . Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California

9 . San Diego Chargers - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan

10 . New Orleans Saints - C.J. Mosley, OLB - Alabama

11 . Miami Dolphins - Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee

12 . Cleveland Browns - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State

13 . Buffalo Bills - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State

14 . Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU

15 . New York Jets - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M

16 . St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, FS - LSU

17 . St. Louis Rams - (from Washington) - Tyler Eifert, TE - Notre Dame

18 . Pittsburgh Steelers - Matt Elam, SS - Florida

19 . Minnesota Vikings - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama

20 . Dallas Cowboys - Taylor Lewan, OT - Michigan

21 . Cincinnati Bengals - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU Ezekiel Ansah, DE - BYU

22 . Seattle Seahawks - Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor

23 . New York Giants - Xavier Rhodes, CB - Florida State

24 . Chicago Bears - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina

25 . Indianapolis Colts - Alex Okafor, DE - Texas

26 . Green Bay Packers - Barkevious Mingo, OLB - LSU

27 . Baltimore Ravens - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma

28 . San Francisco 49ers - Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama

29 . New England Patriots - John Jenkins, DT - Georgia

30 . Denver Broncos - Sheldon Richardson, DT - Missouri

31 . Atlanta Falcons - Giovani Bernard, RB - North Carolina

32 . Houston Texans - De Andre Hopkins, WR - Clemson

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Some quick notes:

-I don't think Geno Smith is necessarily a #1 overall QB talent, but what else are the Chiefs going to do? Play another season with Quinn and Cassell?

-Ditto for Barkley in Arizona.

-Even more difficult than it has been will be determining which OLBs and DEs teams think fit 3-4 or 4-3 defenses. Guys could rise and fall unexpectedly because of that.

-Bad year for fantasy football skill players.

-If your favorite NFL team needs defensive front seven help, this is the draft for you.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
But I like doing it because it draws in the local fans who do know their teams and guys who actually have seen these players play so we can talk about who is missing from 1st round consideration and who doesn't belong at all.So anyway...here goes 2 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia
Jones is best suited for a 3-4 OLB so unless the Jags switch up defenses(which is a possibility) I do not see him as a fit. Even if they do, Jarvis Jones having spinal stenosis is a serious concern. He clearly has top 5 talent, but any team spending an early pick on him is taking a huge risk. Risk vs reward does not justify the #2 pick in my opinion. Star Lotulelei if the Jags do not sign Knighton or Bjoern Werner seem like better fits. Obviously the Jags have a lot needs so the trade for more picks option will likely be their first choice, but that is always easier said than done. Side note: I do not see Ezekiel Ansah on the list. That is a guy I expect to rocket up boards as the process continues. He is a fascinating prospect that has rare upside.
 
DL is the strength of this draft. I think Lotulelei will be a top 2 pick before all is said and done, maybe #1 via trade. I also think Werner goes in the top 10 and by the time the draft rolls around, Ezekiel Ansah will be a 1st rounder, likely top 15-20. He's a freak whose stock is going to soar at the combine as teams envision Jason Pierre-Paul.

 
Picks #14 & 21 both show DE Sam Montgomery. Is #14 supposed to be Barkevious Mingo?

EDIT: I'm reading further and see Mingo down at #26 ... thought he was a good bet for the upper half of the first round. Rankings change a lot between now and April, though.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
don't know anything right now about those guys (don't watch college here in europe) but a safety for the Steelers? yep, they totally need one!

 
DL is the strength of this draft. I think Lotulelei will be a top 2 pick before all is said and done, maybe #1 via trade. I also think Werner goes in the top 10 and by the time the draft rolls around, Ezekiel Ansah will be a 1st rounder, likely top 15-20. He's a freak whose stock is going to soar at the combine as teams envision Jason Pierre-Paul.
Side note: I do not see Ezekiel Ansah on the list. That is a guy I expect to rocket up boards as the process continues. He is a fascinating prospect that has rare upside.
:thumbup:
 
Good notes about Ezekiel Ansah. The highest I've seen him "officially" ranked is near the top of the 2nd.

Werner is an intriguing prospect. I was impressed by the little I saw him play. I wonder if teams would be reluctant to take him in the top 10 due to his relative inexperience.

 
Well it's that time of year again where I read the opinions of a bunch of guys I don't know who are opining on a bunch of guys that I haven't seen play and give my expert opinion on their draft position based on what I think team needs matches availaibility.In other words - this first one is pulled right from my nether regions.But I like doing it because it draws in the local fans who do know their teams and guys who actually have seen these players play so we can talk about who is missing from 1st round consideration and who doesn't belong at all.So anyway...here goes1 . Kansas City Chiefs - Geno Smith, QB - West Virginia 2 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia 3 . Oakland Raiders - Manti Te'o, ILB - Notre Dame 4 . Tennessee Titans - Star Lotulelei DT, - Utah 5 . Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Joeckel, OT - Texas A&M 6 . Detroit Lions - Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama 7 . Carolina Panthers - Keenan Allen, WR - California 8 . Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California 9 . San Diego Chargers - Eric Fisher, OT - Central Michigan 10 . New Orleans Saints - C.J. Mosley, OLB - Alabama 11 . Miami Dolphins - Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee 12 . Cleveland Browns - Bjoern Werner, DE - Florida State 13 . Buffalo Bills - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State 14 . Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU 15 . New York Jets - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M 16 . St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, FS - LSU 17 . St. Louis Rams - (from Washington) - Tyler Eifert, TE - Notre Dame 18 . Pittsburgh Steelers - Matt Elam, SS - Florida 19 . Minnesota Vikings - Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama 20 . Dallas Cowboys - Taylor Lewan, OT - Michigan 21 . Cincinnati Bengals - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU 22 . Seattle Seahawks - Terrance Williams, WR - Baylor 23 . New York Giants - Xavier Rhodes, CB - Florida State 24 . Chicago Bears - Jonathan Cooper, OG - North Carolina 25 . Indianapolis Colts - Alex Okafor, DE - Texas 26 . Green Bay Packers - Barkevious Mingo, OLB - LSU 27 . Baltimore Ravens - Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma 28 . San Francisco 49ers - Jesse Williams, DT - Alabama 29 . New England Patriots - John Jenkins, DT - Georgia 30 . Denver Broncos - Sheldon Richardson, DT - Missouri 31 . Atlanta Falcons - Giovani Bernard, RB - North Carolina 32 . Houston Texans - De Andre Hopkins, WR - Clemson
I am seeing 16 guys from the SEC. :shock: Wow, that would have to be a record, right?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Picks #14 & 21 both show DE Sam Montgomery. Is #14 supposed to be Barkevious Mingo?
Oops. Let's give Ezekiel Ansah to the Bengals.
EDIT: I'm reading further and see Mingo down at #26 ... thought he was a good bet for the upper half of the first round. Rankings change a lot between now and April, though.
His stock took a major hit this season as he had an average year.
#3 is awfully high for an ILB though, no? Even patrick Willis fell to #11 or so and he was a better prospect coming out than Teo, IMO.
It used to be, but with the new CBA it's much more in the realm of possibility.Raiders could do with any of the next three players that go off this board - Lotulelei, Joeckel, Milliner
 
Last edited by a moderator:
-Bad year for fantasy football skill players.
I feel like WR's are pretty deep this year. No Elite guys but a lot of REALLY good guys.
Yes, it does seem that way. I'm intrigued by Justin Hunter. Sounds like a guy with all world talent but afflicted with ADD on the football field.
I think Hunter is going to be big at the next level. Injuries and UT's sucking have taken away a lot of the hype.
 
Good notes about Ezekiel Ansah. The highest I've seen him "officially" ranked is near the top of the 2nd.Werner is an intriguing prospect. I was impressed by the little I saw him play. I wonder if teams would be reluctant to take him in the top 10 due to his relative inexperience.
That will change, especially after the combine. As the husband of a native Utahn whose parents are BYU alums, I've seen quite a bit of this kid. He's a late bloomer - born and raised in Ghana and hasn't been playing football long. he's starting to "get it" though. When the combine rolls around and they measure him at 6'6" and 275 pounds and he then runs a 4.5 40, teams are going to cream their jeans. He's never run a 40 before but has been officially timed at 10.9 in the 100 and 21.9 in the 200. Those are times that would put him around the top 25 at the NCAA track championships and he goes 275 lbs.Wener is a guy I love and all it will take is one team to fall for his upside. That's why I think he goes top 10.
 
That will change, especially after the combine. As the husband of a native Utahn whose parents are BYU alums, I've seen quite a bit of this kid. He's a late bloomer - born and raised in Ghana and hasn't been playing football long. he's starting to "get it" though. When the combine rolls around and they measure him at 6'6" and 275 pounds and he then runs a 4.5 40, teams are going to cream their jeans. He's never run a 40 before but has been officially timed at 10.9 in the 100 and 21.9 in the 200. Those are times that would put him around the top 25 at the NCAA track championships and he goes 275 lbs.Wener is a guy I love and all it will take is one team to fall for his upside. That's why I think he goes top 10.
Wow, Ansah sounds awesome!Werner is a cool player because, hey, who doesn't like marauding Germans? :unsure:Just read that Russ Lande has Werner as his #1 player.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
8 . Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - trainwreck waiting to happen 13 . Buffalo Bills - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State - can't see them going 1st round CB in back to back years 14 . Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU - too much already invested in early round DE's, secondary is their problem 15 . New York Jets - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M - I think he will go earlier 16 . St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, FS - LSU - expecting his draft stock to plummet this offseason as more reports on his bad season without Peterson, Claiborne, Honey Badger, and Taylor reach national outlets.
Very strong effort, critiques above.
 
Some quick notes:-I don't think Geno Smith is necessarily a #1 overall QB talent, but what else are the Chiefs going to do? Play another season with Quinn and Cassell?-Ditto for Barkley in Arizona.-Even more difficult than it has been will be determining which OLBs and DEs teams think fit 3-4 or 4-3 defenses. Guys could rise and fall unexpectedly because of that.-Bad year for fantasy football skill players.-If your favorite NFL team needs defensive front seven help, this is the draft for you.
Geno is deserving of the #1 pickBarkley is not deserving of a top 10 pick though, late day 2 developmental material, not a guy you plan to startI think judging the OLB's and DE's will get easier once the January coaching and GM shuffle takes place, as you said there are a lot of good ones this year but where they fit depends who ends up where running things.
 
Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo
If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.
 
8 . Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - trainwreck waiting to happen 13 . Buffalo Bills - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State - can't see them going 1st round CB in back to back years 14 . Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU - too much already invested in early round DE's, secondary is their problem 15 . New York Jets - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M - I think he will go earlier 16 . St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, FS - LSU - expecting his draft stock to plummet this offseason as more reports on his bad season without Peterson, Claiborne, Honey Badger, and Taylor reach national outlets.
Very strong effort, critiques above.
Barkley - I sort of agree. But the Cardinals cannot have a repeat next year of the QB situation this year. Plus, I wanted people to talk about BarkleyBuffalo - I think they could since they've gotten nothing from McKelvin.TB - Not many good 1st round CBs this year. And their pass rush is still just okay.Damontre Moore - You're porbably right.Reid - You might be right.Let's take Barkley out and put Glennon in for the Cardinals. Does that play?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
But I like doing it because it draws in the local fans who do know their teams and guys who actually have seen these players play so we can talk about who is missing from 1st round consideration and who doesn't belong at all.So anyway...here goes 2 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia
Jones is best suited for a 3-4 OLB so unless the Jags switch up defenses(which is a possibility) I do not see him as a fit.
I think Jones can play either the 3-4 or 4-3, just don't put him in a spot where he will be asked to defend the run too much too soon. Needs developed.
 
DL is the strength of this draft. I think Lotulelei will be a top 2 pick before all is said and done, maybe #1 via trade. I also think Werner goes in the top 10 and by the time the draft rolls around, Ezekiel Ansah will be a 1st rounder, likely top 15-20. He's a freak whose stock is going to soar at the combine as teams envision Jason Pierre-Paul.
Ansah may be a top 5-7 pick once the process has taken its course, especially if Jones' medical issues are on the bad end of the spectrum.
 
Damontre Moore is another guy that I expect to move up boards as the process continues. His numbers are good, but when you factor in the level of competition they are even more impressive. He could go top 10.

 
Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo
Teo just screams Raider to me. A team that really needs some leadership and to wash their hands of the turd Rolando McClain.
#3 is awfully high for an ILB though, no? Even patrick Willis fell to #11 or so and he was a better prospect coming out than Teo, IMO.
It's too early, but the Raiders desperately need a leader on the defense. Te'o is a perfect fit for that franchise, it would make more sense to trade down and pick him closer to #10 if possible but as most of us know trading down is so much easier said than done.
 
But I like doing it because it draws in the local fans who do know their teams and guys who actually have seen these players play so we can talk about who is missing from 1st round consideration and who doesn't belong at all.So anyway...here goes 2 . Jacksonville Jaguars - Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia
Jones is best suited for a 3-4 OLB so unless the Jags switch up defenses(which is a possibility) I do not see him as a fit.
I think Jones can play either the 3-4 or 4-3, just don't put him in a spot where he will be asked to defend the run too much too soon. Needs developed.
He could be a DPR in a 4-3 scheme, but spending the #2 overall for a DPR with medical issues seem a stretch at best.
 
EDIT: I'm reading further and see Mingo down at #26 ... thought he was a good bet for the upper half of the first round. Rankings change a lot between now and April, though.
His stock took a major hit this season as he had an average year.
I'm beginning to question if LSU actually does any coaching on the DL. They have so many freakish talents every year yet no one ever seems to have a grip on whether they can translate to the pros or not.
 
Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo
If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.
If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.
 
Kiper has NC State's Mike Glennon as his #1 QB/pick, allegedly.
He's the one QB in this class I can't put my finger on how I feel about him. In the right situation, he could be successful but he could be a massive failure in the wrong one. He does a very good job managing an up tempo offense and can make all the throws, but when the game slows down he can be overwhelmed easily and his mechanics breakdown.
 
Four other guys I've heard rumblings about:

Cordarrelle Patterson

Chase Thomas

Eddie Lacy

Anthony Barr

Gotta say, I was amazed at the speed Lacy has when I watched that SEC championship game.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Dion Jordan(who was not in this first round mock) is yet another 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB that has a shot at moving up big time.

 
Dion Jordan(who was not in this first round mock) is yet another 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB that has a shot at moving up big time.
He was supposed to be. I went through a couple iterations of this and he must have gotten lost in the shuffling.Again, there's a TON of really good d-linemen in this draft.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
8 . Arizona Cardinals - Matt Barkley, QB - Southern California - trainwreck waiting to happen 13 . Buffalo Bills - Johnthan Banks, CB - Mississippi State - can't see them going 1st round CB in back to back years 14 . Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Sam Montgomery, DE - LSU - too much already invested in early round DE's, secondary is their problem 15 . New York Jets - Damontre Moore, DE - Texas A&M - I think he will go earlier 16 . St. Louis Rams - Eric Reid, FS - LSU - expecting his draft stock to plummet this offseason as more reports on his bad season without Peterson, Claiborne, Honey Badger, and Taylor reach national outlets.
Very strong effort, critiques above.
Barkley - I sort of agree. But the Cardinals cannot have a repeat next year of the QB situation this year. Plus, I wanted people to talk about BarkleyBuffalo - I think they could since they've gotten nothing from McKelvin.TB - Not many good 1st round CBs this year. And their pass rush is still just okay.Damontre Moore - You're porbably right.Reid - You might be right.Let's take Barkley out and put Glennon in for the Cardinals. Does that play?
Glennon in Arizona could work, depends what they're doing at coach and GM. Whiz's offense would not work with Glennon, especially behind the line as is. A Chan Gailey like offense is what Glennon needs, but he has the weaponry to work with in Arizona to make it work. Absolutely must address the OL too, obviously, but lots of quick throws and up tempo with a few deep balls mixed in is Glennon's game.I think Buffalo's more likely to address the pass rush, not so much because of the Mario Williams contract but because of the Mark Anderson one. Tampa missed CLayborn this year, I think they have to plan on him returning and fix the secondary. Eric Wright was not the solution to their problem.
 
If the Vikings don't go WR, then I think they need to move down...maybe even move down and pick up the WR...
You know I know they need a WR in the worst possible way. But who?
Terrance Williams would be my pick, but waiting and see what falls in day 2 may be the better play. Like RB, there are a lot of good WR's this year but not great ones. The potentially great ones all carry quite a bit of risk, for varying reasons.
 
Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo
If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.
If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.
Millner is probably the only 1st round caliber CB in this draft. Other corners will be taken in round 1 because of how the position is valued, but the talent doesn't match. Drafting the best available corner when better players at other positions are available would be a mistake. If your team is drafting a corner on day 1, hope it's late, and a guy with freakish measureables from a small school. There just are not lockdown corners in this draft.
 
Four other guys I've heard rumblings about:Cordarrelle PattersonChase Thomas Eddie LacyAnthony BarrGotta say, I was amazed at the speed Lacy has when I watched that SEC championship game.
Patterson is one of thos e high risk/high reward WR's I mentioned earlier. His game is very raw and needs a lot of development, if he interviews well I like him early day 2. Tough to justify him before then though.LOVE Chase Thomas, he's going to be a starter for the better part of the next decade, plus.Not a huge Lacy fan, looks like the 2nd part of a committee to me. Not developed in the passing game and Bama has shown in the past they will use RB's in the passing game if they have the skills for it. He's a good, disciplined runner, but not a special one. Good day 2 guy.
 
Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo
If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.
If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.
Millner is probably the only 1st round caliber CB in this draft. Other corners will be taken in round 1 because of how the position is valued, but the talent doesn't match. Drafting the best available corner when better players at other positions are available would be a mistake. If your team is drafting a corner on day 1, hope it's late, and a guy with freakish measureables from a small school. There just are not lockdown corners in this draft.
So if Millner is there when the Lions Pick do you take him?
 
Tampa missed CLayborn this year, I think they have to plan on him returning and fix the secondary. Eric Wright was not the solution to their problem.
Someone like Matt Elam? Hometown guy Xavier Rhodes?
I think both of those guys would be good fits. I think Elam is a future stud and if there is another 1st round corner in this draft it's Rhodes. His play has been spotty at times, but he has had some shut down performances and has the measureables to back it up.
 
Tampa missed CLayborn this year, I think they have to plan on him returning and fix the secondary. Eric Wright was not the solution to their problem.
Someone like Matt Elam? Hometown guy Xavier Rhodes?
I think both of those guys would be good fits. I think Elam is a future stud and if there is another 1st round corner in this draft it's Rhodes. His play has been spotty at times, but he has had some shut down performances and has the measureables to back it up.
What about Johnthan Banks?
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top