***First Swing Mock Draft*** (1 Viewer)

[Andy Dufresne]

Is Manti more of a 3/4 ILB or 4/3 ILB?

I don't think it would matter. Like it didn't for Jerod Mayo.

 

[MAC_32]

Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo

If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.

If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.

Millner is probably the only 1st round caliber CB in this draft. Other corners will be taken in round 1 because of how the position is valued, but the talent doesn't match. Drafting the best available corner when better players at other positions are available would be a mistake. If your team is drafting a corner on day 1, hope it's late, and a guy with freakish measureables from a small school. There just are not lockdown corners in this draft.

So if Millner is there when the Lions Pick do you take him?

Depends on free agency, but probably. I wouldn't lynch them if they took one of the OT's or one of the top pass rushers though. Both fill needs as well and from what I'm reading they're grading out higher too. My eyes agree on the A&M guys, Jarvis (medical pending), and Damontre Moore. I'm going based on word of mouth with Ansah though. Everyone I follow that has watched him has said he has star potential and is not as raw as many will say he is over the next few months.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Reid - You might be right.

I've heard a lot about Kenny Vaccaro from Texas or Duke Williams from Nevada making a run at the top safety drafted.I also like Cordarelle Patterson to push his teammate Hunter. I think Hunter ends up being drafted ahead of Patterson based on measurables, but Patterson is the better football player of the two.Raiders can't pass Star for Teo. A very good LB prospect, yes. But LBs can't do much if the DTs can't keep them clean and Oakland needs a stud DT (they have needed one since McGlockton). Positional value goes into that a lot.

 

[MAC_32]

Tampa missed CLayborn this year, I think they have to plan on him returning and fix the secondary. Eric Wright was not the solution to their problem.

Someone like Matt Elam? Hometown guy Xavier Rhodes?

I think both of those guys would be good fits. I think Elam is a future stud and if there is another 1st round corner in this draft it's Rhodes. His play has been spotty at times, but he has had some shut down performances and has the measureables to back it up.

What about Johnthan Banks?

I think he will go in round 1, but I don't think he is worth it. I watched all of Mississippi State's big games this year and he was burnt at least once, badly, in all of them. Skills are there, but can't have that from a top corner. He's a developmental #2.

 

[kegger]

Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo

If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.

If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.

Millner is probably the only 1st round caliber CB in this draft. Other corners will be taken in round 1 because of how the position is valued, but the talent doesn't match. Drafting the best available corner when better players at other positions are available would be a mistake. If your team is drafting a corner on day 1, hope it's late, and a guy with freakish measureables from a small school. There just are not lockdown corners in this draft.

So if Millner is there when the Lions Pick do you take him?

Depends on free agency, but probably. I wouldn't lynch them if they took one of the OT's or one of the top pass rushers though. Both fill needs as well and from what I'm reading they're grading out higher too. My eyes agree on the A&M guys, Jarvis (medical pending), and Damontre Moore. I'm going based on word of mouth with Ansah though. Everyone I follow that has watched him has said he has star potential and is not as raw as many will say he is over the next few months.

This team needs quality CB play in such a bad way that I PRAY Millner is there and they take him.To me this is there number 1 need By Far, and I doubt they go to free agency an sign anyone good.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Breaking my heart with this one. My wants for Detroit - Joeckel, Jones, Teo

If Jones is there for Detroit it is 100% medical, he has #1 pick ability.Can't see Detroit being able to justify Te'o. Tulloch isn't a beast physically, but he can run Schwartz's offense, don't need a Te'o type, need better players around Tulloch in the back 7.One of the A&M OT's make sense though.

If the Lions don't go CB with there first pick it will be criminal.

Millner is probably the only 1st round caliber CB in this draft. Other corners will be taken in round 1 because of how the position is valued, but the talent doesn't match. Drafting the best available corner when better players at other positions are available would be a mistake. If your team is drafting a corner on day 1, hope it's late, and a guy with freakish measureables from a small school. There just are not lockdown corners in this draft.

So if Millner is there when the Lions Pick do you take him?

Depends on free agency, but probably. I wouldn't lynch them if they took one of the OT's or one of the top pass rushers though. Both fill needs as well and from what I'm reading they're grading out higher too. My eyes agree on the A&M guys, Jarvis (medical pending), and Damontre Moore. I'm going based on word of mouth with Ansah though. Everyone I follow that has watched him has said he has star potential and is not as raw as many will say he is over the next few months.

This team needs quality CB play in such a bad way that I PRAY Millner is there and they take him.To me this is there number 1 need By Far, and I doubt they go to free agency an sign anyone good.

I think the Eagles will go either Milliner or Joekel in the first. Joekel depending on Peters and Herremans. Milliner if their recoveries look to be on track.

 

[Sweet Love]

Kiper has NC State's Mike Glennon as his #1 QB/pick, allegedly.

Russ Lande also has Glennon as the top QB.Also of note, Werner #1 overall, Ansah #11, J. Jones #46.

Glennon was not bad, but he certainly did not make anyone forget about Philip Rivers...or even Russell Wilson for that matter. For what it is worth, Wilson was the better QB in that O'Brien offense, but given how good he has been thus far in the NFL, it is not necessarily a knock on Glennon.

 

[Bankerguy]

O-line for Dallas....

 

[Bills Fan]

Great work, Andy. I think the Bills need (in no particular order) a QB, WR, OL, LB. obviously, not much at QB middle round 1...here is hoping there is a stud pass rushing LB available. I can't see them going CB again...not a huge priority.

 

[BlackMamba24]

as a chiefs fan, i dont mind the geno pick i just dont want to see barkley here. i do like what ive heard about Glennon from NC St, but if Glennon is the guy we want then i would like to see KC trade back for him. Hoping one of these QB's will seperate himself from the rest of the pack. A lot can and will change between now and april

I like the Keenan Allen pick to the panthers too.

 

[BlackMamba24]

Kiper has NC State's Mike Glennon as his #1 QB/pick, allegedly.

Russ Lande also has Glennon as the top QB.Also of note, Werner #1 overall, Ansah #11, J. Jones #46.

Glennon was not bad, but he certainly did not make anyone forget about Philip Rivers...or even Russell Wilson for that matter. For what it is worth, Wilson was the better QB in that O'Brien offense, but given how good he has been thus far in the NFL, it is not necessarily a knock on Glennon.

havent watched a ton of NC State games, but from what ive heard the WR's havent helped glennon too much..hearing a lot of dropped passes at NC State

 

[mjohnell]

As a Jags fan, I'll be routing for KC so we can secure the #1 pick and land Geno. We need to pick a QB early until we get it right. WIth the rookie pay scale I think it makes sense for teams without that franchise guy to draft a QB in the first every other year until it is obvious that they do have that franchise guy.

 

[Kleck]

Green Bay too low.

 

[Beo]

Four other guys I've heard rumblings about:Cordarrelle PattersonChase Thomas Eddie LacyAnthony BarrGotta say, I was amazed at the speed Lacy has when I watched that SEC championship game.

Patterson is one of thos e high risk/high reward WR's I mentioned earlier. His game is very raw and needs a lot of development, if he interviews well I like him early day 2. Tough to justify him before then though.LOVE Chase Thomas, he's going to be a starter for the better part of the next decade, plus.Not a huge Lacy fan, looks like the 2nd part of a committee to me. Not developed in the passing game and Bama has shown in the past they will use RB's in the passing game if they have the skills for it. He's a good, disciplined runner, but not a special one. Good day 2 guy.

I also love Chase Thomas and so want my Vikings to get him in the 2nd or 3rd round. He is a throwback player and in the games I have seen him in he was all over the field.

 

[pantherclub]

Kiper has NC State's Mike Glennon as his #1 QB/pick, allegedly.

as a NCState fan/alum that is quite laughable. This is the same Mel Kiper that thought Jimmy Clausen should have been a top 5 pick and swore he would be an All pro.I trust the gms whose jobs are on the line rather than Kiper.

 

[pantherclub]

Kiper has NC State's Mike Glennon as his #1 QB/pick, allegedly.

Russ Lande also has Glennon as the top QB.Also of note, Werner #1 overall, Ansah #11, J. Jones #46.

Glennon was not bad, but he certainly did not make anyone forget about Philip Rivers...or even Russell Wilson for that matter. For what it is worth, Wilson was the better QB in that O'Brien offense, but given how good he has been thus far in the NFL, it is not necessarily a knock on Glennon.

Glennons frame needs a lot of work, I doubt he could handle the NFL pounding. Plus he locks on his receiver far too much. Not very athletic and tends to get rattled quite a bit. I think he will eventually make a good back up with the potential to be a game manager type starting qb. For him to be #1 on someones board means that they havent watched him a lot and/or its an incredibly weak qb draft.

 

[Ridgelake]

O-line for Dallas....

Yes, that is the obvious biggest need.I will state that a passrusher, particularly one who can play the 5-technique, would rate very highly on Dallas' board. Dallas had both JJ Watt and Michael Brockers cued up if they didnt go Tyron Smith and Mo Claiborne the last couple of years. Don't forget that Spencer is a FA and would leave a gaping hole at OLB if he were not re-signed. And Ware isnt getting any younger.The other longtime big need for them is safety. But Barry Church played very well before going on IR and they've yet to see what they've got in last year's 4th rounder Matt Johnson. I doubt they go safety early.

 

[donkshow]

Some quick notes:

-I don't think Geno Smith is necessarily a #1 overall QB talent, but what else are the Chiefs going to do? Play another season with Quinn and Cassell?

-Ditto for Barkley in Arizona.

-Even more difficult than it has been will be determining which OLBs and DEs teams think fit 3-4 or 4-3 defenses. Guys could rise and fall unexpectedly because of that.

-Bad year for fantasy football skill players.

-If your favorite NFL team needs defensive front seven help, this is the draft for you.

Yes, yes we do.

 

[Grahamburn]

Tampa missed CLayborn this year, I think they have to plan on him returning and fix the secondary. Eric Wright was not the solution to their problem.

Someone like Matt Elam? Hometown guy Xavier Rhodes?

I think both of those guys would be good fits. I think Elam is a future stud and if there is another 1st round corner in this draft it's Rhodes. His play has been spotty at times, but he has had some shut down performances and has the measureables to back it up.

What about Johnthan Banks?

Bad year to need a corner. Tampa needs at least one and probably two desperately with Ronde likely retiring in addition to the lack of talent at the position. I'd rather they go defensive line personally. Cover up the lack of talent in the secondary with a pass rush.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Banks won the Thorpe and is ranked #22 by Lande and #19 by Rang.

I appreciate guys giving their opinions in here based on what they've seen, but the kid is a 1st round talent.