Flash Mobs (1 Viewer)

[RCon]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

 

[timschochet]

The video is unbelievable. I don’t even recognize this country anymore.

Video Shows Looter 'Flash Mob' Rush 7-Eleven During Street Takeover​

Really weird to see crime, looting, chaos happening at a location right on the border of Compton and Inglewood. Never would have guessed that area might be unsafe or prone to this sort of thing.
edit: or am I the only one who mapped the location?

It’s not an area that I would want to be at night. But I have done plenty of business in that area during the day; I’ve worked on at least a dozen leases for small businesses over the years.

The vast majority of residents in the area are law-abiding, as in almost every area. But there is poverty, and unemployment, and homelessness, and not nearly enough spending on education or infrastructure, and these elements all combine into a stew that creates drug use, violence, and an unsafe environment. Conservatives seem to believe that the only solution is more police and tougher law enforcement. Such methods are proven failures IMO.

 

[timschochet]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

 

[FairWarning]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

Shoplifting has increased because DA’s treat the criminals as the victims.

 

[timschochet]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

Shoplifting has increased because DA’s treat the criminals as the victims.

Hogwash. It doesn’t hold water.

 

[FairWarning]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

Shoplifting has increased because DA’s treat the criminals as the victims.

Hogwash. It doesn’t hold water.

Enjoy Paradise then .

 

[timschochet]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

Shoplifting has increased because DA’s treat the criminals as the victims.

Hogwash. It doesn’t hold water.

Enjoy Paradise then .

Every day man. I’m walking the beach right now.

 

[BladeRunner]

I think @ekbeats had taken unfair criticism in this thread. He is not arguing that the flash mob robbing this store was made up of liberals. Nor is he arguing that liberals approve of this sort of behavior or robberies in general. His point is that recent liberal policies with regard to law enforcement have made these sorts of crimes easier to occur, and that our current increased lawlessness is due largely to these same liberal policies.

The bolded would be easier to decipher with a description of the particular policies in question. I referenced one earlier, but don't believe I received an answer.

Specifically, do people think that California raising the dollar limit separating misdemeanor from felony is the cause of recent shoplifting crimes?

Some do. Mostly Republican types. I think the odds that someone contemplating shoplifting is considering the differences in penalty are pretty low.
Shoplifting has increased because of inflation and uncertainty about our economic well being. This isn’t rocket science.

Shoplifting has increased because DA’s treat the criminals as the victims.

Hogwash. It doesn’t hold water.

Sure it does. The data and numbers prove you wrong.

Your posts are akin to closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!".

No matter how many times you say "hogwash", it doesn't make it true.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Inflation is some new bait.

 

[parasaurolophus]

The dollar threshold probably didn't have as big of an effect as the dismissing of so many cases.

Criminals these days know there is a high likelihood they won't even see charges. If they see charges they know they can pretty much just skip the court stuff.

Their only real chance of getting in trouble would be if say they got pulled over and then their info was about to be run.

This leads to fleeing of course. Which leads to... No chase policies.

Reform, lol.

 

[The Future Champs]

Wouldn't the flash mob in the 7-11 be guilty of rioting? Although I'd bet the people involved wouldn't bother to think that far ahead.

 

[FairWarning]

Wouldn't the flash mob in the 7-11 be guilty of rioting? Although I'd bet the people involved wouldn't bother to think that far ahead.

That would never happen with these DA’s. Most likely would get charged with something like jaywalking. It’s all about the criminal being the victim these days,