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You're part right, but Jonnay has a persecution complex that goes on long before I ever engaged with him. He used to constantly whine about how he gets suspended when (of course, as is his usual cry) someone else did it worse. I don't troll looking for you or Jon. As I've said to him many times, I read political and religious threads and he usually has some of the most inane and/or offensive posts in those so I respond to him (that's of course before you started coming along). If he'd quit posting in political or religious threads, I doubt I'd ever reply to anything he said. But he wants to be seen as a white Christian martyr so if anyone makes a mistake about something he said, it's a vile lie. If anyone replies to him more than once they're a stalker.So uh, how's the research coming along about Zimmerman's child Hustler?
:lmao: Hey, hows that "Zimmerman paid off 2 credit cards, I don't care if it was a total of $120 he spent on groceries, but that makes him a suspect character" campaign going?
How do you know how much he had on it? And how much of that money went to care for his child?How you continue to miss the point is a phenomenon.
 
Paying off all his bills with his free influx of cash that was meant as defense money, not get out of debt free money. Again, I also said it was one piece of many that paint a portrait of him, not that this alone tarnishes his character. You're the one that can't get that part through your thick skull.
So now you know the expenses on those credit cards weren't just day to day living expenses..?How do you know that?
Read the whole post. I said it was possible that he planned on paying them all off but that the timing of actually doing it is extremely fishy. Any update on his child?
Many people use there credit cards instead of cash, and pay them off monthly.. Thats actually rather common. Maybe it's possible that the expenses on those cards were related to day to day living expenses, and expenses incurred during the process of hiding from the black panthers...?

Maybe if he would have still been working there wouldn't have been a balance on those cards?

Maybe you're just looking for anything possible to make a stink about because you're determined to prove Zimmerman is a bad guy and there for murdered Trayvon?.. <<sounds more like it..

 
You're part right, but Jonnay has a persecution complex that goes on long before I ever engaged with him. He used to constantly whine about how he gets suspended when (of course, as is his usual cry) someone else did it worse. I don't troll looking for you or Jon. As I've said to him many times, I read political and religious threads and he usually has some of the most inane and/or offensive posts in those so I respond to him (that's of course before you started coming along). If he'd quit posting in political or religious threads, I doubt I'd ever reply to anything he said. But he wants to be seen as a white Christian martyr so if anyone makes a mistake about something he said, it's a vile lie. If anyone replies to him more than once they're a stalker.So uh, how's the research coming along about Zimmerman's child Hustler?
:lmao: Hey, hows that "Zimmerman paid off 2 credit cards, I don't care if it was a total of $120 he spent on groceries, but that makes him a suspect character" campaign going?
How do you know how much he had on it? And how much of that money went to care for his child?How you continue to miss the point is a phenomenon.
Just don't pay off your credit cards folks, Sweeney will put you up for murder.. :o
 
Paying off all his bills with his free influx of cash that was meant as defense money, not get out of debt free money. Again, I also said it was one piece of many that paint a portrait of him, not that this alone tarnishes his character. You're the one that can't get that part through your thick skull.
So now you know the expenses on those credit cards weren't just day to day living expenses..?How do you know that?
Read the whole post. I said it was possible that he planned on paying them all off but that the timing of actually doing it is extremely fishy. Any update on his child?
Many people use there credit cards instead of cash, and pay them off monthly.. Thats actually rather common. Maybe it's possible that the expenses on those cards were related to day to day living expenses, and expenses incurred during the process of hiding from the black panthers...?

Maybe if he would have still been working there wouldn't have been a balance on those cards?

Maybe you're just looking for anything possible to make a stink about because you're determined to prove Zimmerman is a bad guy and there for murdered Trayvon?.. <<sounds more like it..
Like I said, possible, but the timing and the method of doing so is fishy. Also, it's only ONE oart of a pattern of fishy behavior on his part. How's his child doing?

 
You're part right, but Jonnay has a persecution complex that goes on long before I ever engaged with him. He used to constantly whine about how he gets suspended when (of course, as is his usual cry) someone else did it worse. I don't troll looking for you or Jon. As I've said to him many times, I read political and religious threads and he usually has some of the most inane and/or offensive posts in those so I respond to him (that's of course before you started coming along). If he'd quit posting in political or religious threads, I doubt I'd ever reply to anything he said. But he wants to be seen as a white Christian martyr so if anyone makes a mistake about something he said, it's a vile lie. If anyone replies to him more than once they're a stalker.So uh, how's the research coming along about Zimmerman's child Hustler?
:lmao: Hey, hows that "Zimmerman paid off 2 credit cards, I don't care if it was a total of $120 he spent on groceries, but that makes him a suspect character" campaign going?
How do you know how much he had on it? And how much of that money went to care for his child?How you continue to miss the point is a phenomenon.
Just don't pay off your credit cards folks, Sweeney will put you up for murder.. :o
:lmao:How's the kid doing? Care to man up or just make up a bunch of stuff and/or show how completely ignorant you are?
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
:lmao: Like I said, martyr complex. I wish I could say the same about you...

Anyone who calls people out to "eat some crow" and then hides to not have to eat it themselves deserve all the scorn they have coming to them.

 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
:lmao:
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
:lmao:
Notice how no one is saying that about you?How's the kid doing?

eta: the bolded only applies to people that can actually, you know, read and comprehend English. For obvious reasons, that's lost on you.

etaeta: How's his kid doing? You ever going to address this or just keep hiding?

 
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Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"

 
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Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
:lmao:
Notice how no one is saying that about you?How's the kid doing?

eta: the bolded only applies to people that can actually, you know, read and comprehend English. For obvious reasons, that's lost on you.

etaeta: How's his kid doing? You ever going to address this or just keep hiding?
Yea, you're the champion of grammar.. :lmao: Hows that credit card campaign going?

 
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.

When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
Thats your opinion and you are welcome to it :banned:
Jon doesn't just know about horrible posting, he's the president of the company! But he needs to watch out for Hustler...
Considering you constantly lie and mischaracterize my posts, I don't give a crap what you say. I pointed out specific flaws and biases using accurate characterizations. You post in some fantasyland a bunch of lies because of some pathetic three year old grudge you can't seem to let go of.
What is consistent here is that Sweeney trolls the forum looking to argue with anyone willing.. It's not specific to you.. Notice his first post in a thread is usually inflammatory or confrontational.Not saying I couldn't be looked at the same way, but that's Sweeney's MO..
Not saying Sweeney doesn't do it to others, but he specifcally has a hard on for me. He is capable of making decent arguments, but with me it is always personal bs about crap that happened years ago. It has gotten to the point it is like Pavlov's dogs, he just sees my name and reacts the same no matter what the content of my post.
:lmao:
Notice how no one is saying that about you?How's the kid doing?

eta: the bolded only applies to people that can actually, you know, read and comprehend English. For obvious reasons, that's lost on you.

etaeta: How's his kid doing? You ever going to address this or just keep hiding?
Yea, you're the champion of grammar.. :lmao: Hows that credit card campaign going?
So you're not going to man up. Don't worry, I didn't expect you to. Everything about you is all about excuses and hiding from truth so good luck with that. Try to keep the sand out of your ears while your head's buried. :bye: girly man.
 
So you're not going to man up. Don't worry, I didn't expect you to. Everything about you is all about excuses and hiding from truth so good luck with that. Try to keep the sand out of your ears while your head's buried. :bye: girly man.
Okay! Will do.. :bye: Try not to make any credit card payments!!
:hophead:Blah blah blah blah blahWhen you want to man up, come talk to me. Until then, as before, most of what you say is worth less than what I flush every morning after my coffee.
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"
I didnt kill anyone and i didnt put myself in the middle of a murder investigation, so my past has nothing to do with anything.If zimmerman has a history of this behavior then it is what it is. Why do you shrug this off so easily? You were intense in your attempts to demonize Treyvon , but you dismiss any and all proof against zimmy. If i said ''zimmerman was the nicest and most gentle man alive '' you wouldnt dipute that im guessing. I know that treyvon was getting into mischief at school and thats why his father took him to sanford, to get his head back in the game. He was smoking weed and he did vandelize a locker at school.This stuff can be proven. The things that are documented about Zimmy you cannot dispute.
 
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So you're not going to man up. Don't worry, I didn't expect you to. Everything about you is all about excuses and hiding from truth so good luck with that. Try to keep the sand out of your ears while your head's buried. :bye: girly man.
Okay! Will do.. :bye: Try not to make any credit card payments!!
:hophead:Blah blah blah blah blahWhen you want to man up, come talk to me. Until then, as before, most of what you say is worth less than what I flush every morning after my coffee.
:coffee: ... :toilet: :lol: You're such a charmer.. :wub:
 
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Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"
I didnt kill anyone and i didnt put myself in the middle of a murder investigation, so my past has nothing to do with anything.If zimmerman has a history of this behavior then it is what it is. Why do you shrug this off so easily? You were intense in your attempts to demonize Treyvon , but you dismiss any and all proof against zimmy. If i said ''zimmerman was the nicest and most gentle man alive '' you wouldnt dipute that im guessing. I know that treyvon was getting into mischief at school and thats why his father took him to sanford, to get his head back in the game. He was smoking weed and he did vandelize a locker at school.This stuff can be proven. The things that are documented about Zimmy you cannot dispute.
With your puzzle pieces.. err.. past.. umm, whatever.. You ever kill someone, don't worry about the trial, you're guilty of murder. :yes:
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"
I didnt kill anyone and i didnt put myself in the middle of a murder investigation, so my past has nothing to do with anything.If zimmerman has a history of this behavior then it is what it is. Why do you shrug this off so easily? You were intense in your attempts to demonize Treyvon , but you dismiss any and all proof against zimmy. If i said ''zimmerman was the nicest and most gentle man alive '' you wouldnt dipute that im guessing. I know that treyvon was getting into mischief at school and thats why his father took him to sanford, to get his head back in the game. He was smoking weed and he did vandelize a locker at school.This stuff can be proven. The things that are documented about Zimmy you cannot dispute.
With your puzzle pieces.. err.. past.. umm, whatever.. You ever kill someone, don't worry about the trial, you're guilty of murder. :yes:
I make zimmy look like an alter boy
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"
I didnt kill anyone and i didnt put myself in the middle of a murder investigation, so my past has nothing to do with anything.If zimmerman has a history of this behavior then it is what it is. Why do you shrug this off so easily? You were intense in your attempts to demonize Treyvon , but you dismiss any and all proof against zimmy. If i said ''zimmerman was the nicest and most gentle man alive '' you wouldnt dipute that im guessing. I know that treyvon was getting into mischief at school and thats why his father took him to sanford, to get his head back in the game. He was smoking weed and he did vandelize a locker at school.This stuff can be proven. The things that are documented about Zimmy you cannot dispute.
With your puzzle pieces.. err.. past.. umm, whatever.. You ever kill someone, don't worry about the trial, you're guilty of murder. :yes:
I make zimmy look like an alter boy
Northerners are savages.. :headbang:
 
Zimmerman bullied former co-worker

Zimmerman - Bullies former Co-Worker
And lost in the midst of the C.H vs Sweeny debate is this nugget of info. Which could help explain how a pathalogical liar can beat stress tests and such.When the salesman complained to management, Zimmerman denied the harassment.

"The guy was so convincing when he was confronted by management to the point where I doubted my own self. I would not be surprised if he got away with it [Martin murder accusation]." "He's got, like you say, a good poker face. Great poker face," said the colleague. "That pretty much summarizes this guy's personality. Great poker face."

In the letter, the colleague states, "Since I started working in CarMax Sanford, George has been dealing with me in an unprofessional manner and have mastered the art of emerging as the nice guy to others in order to make me look like the unsocial type and out of place."

The former car salesman insists that Zimmerman, who was 24 at the time, was not a racist, but would do anything to gain the approval of his colleagues, chiefly harassing their new colleague with Middle Eastern jokes. He said the racist remarks hurt more than anything else.

Speaking exclusively to ABC News, the man said, "He wasn't joking around. He was choosing his words. He was making fun of my accent, or pretending that I have a thick accent."

ZIMMERMAN = PROVOKING LYING BULLY MANIPULATOR
You are pathetically so biased in this case. Are you telling me you have never made fun of someone's accent? And from that you conclude he is a provoking lying bully manipulator. Also your conclusion about Martin had to be provoked by something like Zimmerman using the n-word is baseless. Just horrible posting.
No , i dont bully people or make them feel like worthless crap. You dont seem to understand , this case is like putting a puzzle together and we keep getting new pieces to add to the puzzle. You get enough pieces and you can start to see patterns .You can add some personal conclusions after reading enough about each person involved and and paint a picture of those people. Am i correct in saying zimmerman is a liar? I believe so , you may not, whatever. I read stories about the way he treats people that he worked with and they use words like bully, so why wouldnt i ? I have also read stories that george zimmerman could be a great guy , and caring , i wouldnt say he wasnt . I think a lot of things and i post some of those thoughts . You get angry and attack me for it, which from what ive read in here , thats what you do , so no biggie, its who you are and what you do. Have at it !!! Im still going to post my thoughts based on police reports and audio interviews and stories from people who know zimmy.
I'm sure we could find enough junk puzzle pieces in your past to convict you of murder.... :yes: The guy was upset because he was getting his balls busted at work and didn't know how to give it back, probably got laughed at a bit, but who doesn't.. Giving someone a hard time doesn't necessarily equate to "bullying"
I didnt kill anyone and i didnt put myself in the middle of a murder investigation, so my past has nothing to do with anything.If zimmerman has a history of this behavior then it is what it is. Why do you shrug this off so easily? You were intense in your attempts to demonize Treyvon , but you dismiss any and all proof against zimmy. If i said ''zimmerman was the nicest and most gentle man alive '' you wouldnt dipute that im guessing. I know that treyvon was getting into mischief at school and thats why his father took him to sanford, to get his head back in the game. He was smoking weed and he did vandelize a locker at school.This stuff can be proven. The things that are documented about Zimmy you cannot dispute.
With your puzzle pieces.. err.. past.. umm, whatever.. You ever kill someone, don't worry about the trial, you're guilty of murder. :yes:
I make zimmy look like an alter boy
Northerners are savages.. :headbang:
Boston southie bad boys haha
 
'BustedKnuckles said:
Still, Serino in that report faulted Zimmerman for twice passing up the chance to tell the 17-year-old that he was a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, something that may well have defused the situation.

The paperwork also reveals that Sanford police concluded that Trayvon was running toward the townhouse where he was staying when the two confronted each other.

And it shows that they believed Zimmerman was following Trayvon, something the second-degree murder defendant initially admitted but later denied.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-26/news/os-george-zimmerman-latest-evidence-20120626_1_special-prosecutor-release-statements
(If we can believe this journalist hasn't taken some liberties here, as has become often apparent in the media's coverage of this case) Zimmerman should have identified himself, but that doesn't make him guilty of murder. That will have relatively no bearing on the outcome of the murder charge.

The police concluded incorrectly that Trayvon was running home. It's obvious for many reasons that he wasn't. If Trayvon was "running home", he would have gotten home before Zimmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher. But he never made it further than 20some feet from the corner of the building he disappeared behind while Zimmerman was on the phone. Zimmerman looses sight of him, a minute and a half goes by while he's still on the phone, then somehow, he's still right there when Zimmerman hangs up. I think even the anti-Zimmerman crowd can agree here. Trayvon was not running home.

The police believed that he was following, I think we all have. I don't think it changes the outcome of the murder charges. It's obvious that he didn't follow him any further than what was represented on the 911 call. Because the incident happened at a spot Zimmerman had already visited while on the phone.

Zimmerman may have made some mistakes.. We don't know because we weren't there. But if the worst mistakes he made was initially following Trayvon, and then not identifying himself once face to face with the confrontation, that still doesn't remove his ability to defend himself, and doesn't prove he was intent on killing Trayvon.
You are a true piece of work. Keep fighting bro, we are all still laughing at you.
After reading the entire police report that was just released and watching and listening to all the interviews this is my conclusion of how this went down.

George Zimmerman saw a person who he didn't recognize in HIS neighborhood and decided to watch Treyvons movements.Treyvon at some point sees zimmy park and look at him as he walked. Hes on the phone talking to his GF and minding his own business. He may or may not have gone towards zimms car , im guessing he started to but zimm rolled up his window negating any engagement. Treyvon continues to walk home and zimm starts to follow him in his truck. Trey sees this and starts to move a little faster. During police questioning zimm could not or would not tell detective serino what kind of run it was, whether he was jogging or sprinting or just walking fast. Judging by his GF`s description he was running, as she said he was breathing hard, but that could have been from being nervous as well. I think zimm didnt want to say that because it would really seem like the kid was trying to move away from zimm asap. So zimm gets out of his car to pursue the ####### punk because hes gonna get away if he doesn't I dont think zimmerman had any ill will at this point , just him being him, captain watchman. I dont think he was getting any address for the cops because he never did , even after he went all the way from twin trees ln to retreatview circle and stood under something to keep out of the rain before heading back to his truck to meet the cops.So MY thought is he never stopped looking for treyvon, he went around the buildings looking for him and i think treyvon was hiding in that area. I think treyvon saw zimmy and finally had enough and came out into the open and asked zimmy whats up and zimmy never identified himself , he just started talking back to treyvon.Words were exchanged and at some point i believe zimmy said something that set treyvon off...called him a punk or worse, maybe the N word was said. Something pissed treyvon off bad enough for him to attack zimmy during the encounter, it wasnt just him being followed.Something bad was said . Now zimmy is in a fight and because treyvon has the upper hand zimmy pulls his gun and shoots treyvon martin in the chest killing him.

By the way the law is written and the fact that treyvon cant tell his side of the story all we have is the word of a man who has proven that he is capable and willing to lie to police and the courts.I think he embellished most of the story and twisted it to suit his cause. With that said , i think the pro zimm crowd is correct in saying it will be next to impossible to convict zimmerman for murder.

Go ahead and flame away hahaha.
We'll likely never know what was really said between the two, who inititiated the contact or whether Treyvon went for Zimmerman's gun, but I don't believe your assumptions are unreasonable.
 
This thread would be interesting again if you'd guys just fight and webcast it.
I'd roll with BK :boxing: Gotta happen on my turf though.. Not drivin to Beantown..
:scared:
Based on your profile pic, and the way I perceive you in this thread, you're the only guy I think I'd be interested in sparing with.. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out.. There are plenty of other annoying guys here, but you seem like the one who would actually be fun to spar with.. :shrug: ;)
 
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This thread would be interesting again if you'd guys just fight and webcast it.
I'd roll with BK :boxing: Gotta happen on my turf though.. Not drivin to Beantown..
:scared:
Based on your profile pic, and the way I perceive you in this thread, you're the only guy I think I'd be interested in sparing with.. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out.. There are plenty of other annoying guys here, but you seem like the one who would actually be fun to spar with.. :shrug: ;)
Gotta love the contact :thumbup:
 
This thread would be interesting again if you'd guys just fight and webcast it.
I'd roll with BK :boxing: Gotta happen on my turf though.. Not drivin to Beantown..
:scared:
Based on your profile pic, and the way I perceive you in this thread, you're the only guy I think I'd be interested in sparing with.. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out.. There are plenty of other annoying guys here, but you seem like the one who would actually be fun to spar with.. :shrug: ;)
Yeah sparring with me isn't fun. I know that to be a fact. Being smothered isn't cool, glad I give it and don't take it.
 
This thread would be interesting again if you'd guys just fight and webcast it.
I'd roll with BK :boxing: Gotta happen on my turf though.. Not drivin to Beantown..
:scared:
Based on your profile pic, and the way I perceive you in this thread, you're the only guy I think I'd be interested in sparing with.. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out.. There are plenty of other annoying guys here, but you seem like the one who would actually be fun to spar with.. :shrug: ;)
Yeah sparring with me isn't fun. I know that to be a fact. Being smothered isn't cool, glad I give it and don't take it.
Actually let me correct that... Lorenzo Neal smothered the #### out of me a couple times.Was so very very bad. Nothing I could do.
 
This thread would be interesting again if you'd guys just fight and webcast it.
I'd roll with BK :boxing: Gotta happen on my turf though.. Not drivin to Beantown..
:scared:
Based on your profile pic, and the way I perceive you in this thread, you're the only guy I think I'd be interested in sparing with.. Sorry, didn't mean to single you out.. There are plenty of other annoying guys here, but you seem like the one who would actually be fun to spar with.. :shrug: ;)
Yeah sparring with me isn't fun. I know that to be a fact. Being smothered isn't cool, glad I give it and don't take it.
Yea, bud, I'm sure I don't want none of That. Good luck with your quest though :P
 
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'BustedKnuckles said:
Still, Serino in that report faulted Zimmerman for twice passing up the chance to tell the 17-year-old that he was a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, something that may well have defused the situation.

The paperwork also reveals that Sanford police concluded that Trayvon was running toward the townhouse where he was staying when the two confronted each other.

And it shows that they believed Zimmerman was following Trayvon, something the second-degree murder defendant initially admitted but later denied.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-26/news/os-george-zimmerman-latest-evidence-20120626_1_special-prosecutor-release-statements
(If we can believe this journalist hasn't taken some liberties here, as has become often apparent in the media's coverage of this case) Zimmerman should have identified himself, but that doesn't make him guilty of murder. That will have relatively no bearing on the outcome of the murder charge.

The police concluded incorrectly that Trayvon was running home. It's obvious for many reasons that he wasn't. If Trayvon was "running home", he would have gotten home before Zimmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher. But he never made it further than 20some feet from the corner of the building he disappeared behind while Zimmerman was on the phone. Zimmerman looses sight of him, a minute and a half goes by while he's still on the phone, then somehow, he's still right there when Zimmerman hangs up. I think even the anti-Zimmerman crowd can agree here. Trayvon was not running home.

The police believed that he was following, I think we all have. I don't think it changes the outcome of the murder charges. It's obvious that he didn't follow him any further than what was represented on the 911 call. Because the incident happened at a spot Zimmerman had already visited while on the phone.

Zimmerman may have made some mistakes.. We don't know because we weren't there. But if the worst mistakes he made was initially following Trayvon, and then not identifying himself once face to face with the confrontation, that still doesn't remove his ability to defend himself, and doesn't prove he was intent on killing Trayvon.
You are a true piece of work. Keep fighting bro, we are all still laughing at you.
After reading the entire police report that was just released and watching and listening to all the interviews this is my conclusion of how this went down.

George Zimmerman saw a person who he didn't recognize in HIS neighborhood and decided to watch Treyvons movements.Treyvon at some point sees zimmy park and look at him as he walked. Hes on the phone talking to his GF and minding his own business. He may or may not have gone towards zimms car , im guessing he started to but zimm rolled up his window negating any engagement. Treyvon continues to walk home and zimm starts to follow him in his truck. Trey sees this and starts to move a little faster. During police questioning zimm could not or would not tell detective serino what kind of run it was, whether he was jogging or sprinting or just walking fast. Judging by his GF`s description he was running, as she said he was breathing hard, but that could have been from being nervous as well. I think zimm didnt want to say that because it would really seem like the kid was trying to move away from zimm asap. So zimm gets out of his car to pursue the ####### punk because hes gonna get away if he doesn't I dont think zimmerman had any ill will at this point , just him being him, captain watchman. I dont think he was getting any address for the cops because he never did , even after he went all the way from twin trees ln to retreatview circle and stood under something to keep out of the rain before heading back to his truck to meet the cops.So MY thought is he never stopped looking for treyvon, he went around the buildings looking for him and i think treyvon was hiding in that area. I think treyvon saw zimmy and finally had enough and came out into the open and asked zimmy whats up and zimmy never identified himself , he just started talking back to treyvon.Words were exchanged and at some point i believe zimmy said something that set treyvon off...called him a punk or worse, maybe the N word was said. Something pissed treyvon off bad enough for him to attack zimmy during the encounter, it wasnt just him being followed.Something bad was said . Now zimmy is in a fight and because treyvon has the upper hand zimmy pulls his gun and shoots treyvon martin in the chest killing him.

By the way the law is written and the fact that treyvon cant tell his side of the story all we have is the word of a man who has proven that he is capable and willing to lie to police and the courts.I think he embellished most of the story and twisted it to suit his cause. With that said , i think the pro zimm crowd is correct in saying it will be next to impossible to convict zimmerman for murder.

Go ahead and flame away hahaha.
We'll likely never know what was really said between the two, who inititiated the contact or whether Treyvon went for Zimmerman's gun, but I don't believe your assumptions are unreasonable.
Oh you are 100 % right about never knowing everything that transpired between zimmy and trey. Im just giving something to chew on based on what detective serino kept asking zimmy, ''what set treyvon martin off so bad that he would attack you like that ''.
 
Still, Serino in that report faulted Zimmerman for twice passing up the chance to tell the 17-year-old that he was a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, something that may well have defused the situation.

The paperwork also reveals that Sanford police concluded that Trayvon was running toward the townhouse where he was staying when the two confronted each other.

And it shows that they believed Zimmerman was following Trayvon, something the second-degree murder defendant initially admitted but later denied.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-26/news/os-george-zimmerman-latest-evidence-20120626_1_special-prosecutor-release-statements
(If we can believe this journalist hasn't taken some liberties here, as has become often apparent in the media's coverage of this case) Zimmerman should have identified himself, but that doesn't make him guilty of murder. That will have relatively no bearing on the outcome of the murder charge.

The police concluded incorrectly that Trayvon was running home. It's obvious for many reasons that he wasn't. If Trayvon was "running home", he would have gotten home before Zimmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher. But he never made it further than 20some feet from the corner of the building he disappeared behind while Zimmerman was on the phone. Zimmerman looses sight of him, a minute and a half goes by while he's still on the phone, then somehow, he's still right there when Zimmerman hangs up. I think even the anti-Zimmerman crowd can agree here. Trayvon was not running home.

The police believed that he was following, I think we all have. I don't think it changes the outcome of the murder charges. It's obvious that he didn't follow him any further than what was represented on the 911 call. Because the incident happened at a spot Zimmerman had already visited while on the phone.

Zimmerman may have made some mistakes.. We don't know because we weren't there. But if the worst mistakes he made was initially following Trayvon, and then not identifying himself once face to face with the confrontation, that still doesn't remove his ability to defend himself, and doesn't prove he was intent on killing Trayvon.
You are a true piece of work. Keep fighting bro, we are all still laughing at you.
After reading the entire police report that was just released and watching and listening to all the interviews this is my conclusion of how this went down.

George Zimmerman saw a person who he didn't recognize in HIS neighborhood and decided to watch Treyvons movements.Treyvon at some point sees zimmy park and look at him as he walked. Hes on the phone talking to his GF and minding his own business. He may or may not have gone towards zimms car , im guessing he started to but zimm rolled up his window negating any engagement. Treyvon continues to walk home and zimm starts to follow him in his truck. Trey sees this and starts to move a little faster. During police questioning zimm could not or would not tell detective serino what kind of run it was, whether he was jogging or sprinting or just walking fast. Judging by his GF`s description he was running, as she said he was breathing hard, but that could have been from being nervous as well. I think zimm didnt want to say that because it would really seem like the kid was trying to move away from zimm asap. So zimm gets out of his car to pursue the ####### punk because hes gonna get away if he doesn't I dont think zimmerman had any ill will at this point , just him being him, captain watchman. I dont think he was getting any address for the cops because he never did , even after he went all the way from twin trees ln to retreatview circle and stood under something to keep out of the rain before heading back to his truck to meet the cops.So MY thought is he never stopped looking for treyvon, he went around the buildings looking for him and i think treyvon was hiding in that area. I think treyvon saw zimmy and finally had enough and came out into the open and asked zimmy whats up and zimmy never identified himself , he just started talking back to treyvon.Words were exchanged and at some point i believe zimmy said something that set treyvon off...called him a punk or worse, maybe the N word was said. Something pissed treyvon off bad enough for him to attack zimmy during the encounter, it wasnt just him being followed.Something bad was said . Now zimmy is in a fight and because treyvon has the upper hand zimmy pulls his gun and shoots treyvon martin in the chest killing him.

By the way the law is written and the fact that treyvon cant tell his side of the story all we have is the word of a man who has proven that he is capable and willing to lie to police and the courts.I think he embellished most of the story and twisted it to suit his cause. With that said , i think the pro zimm crowd is correct in saying it will be next to impossible to convict zimmerman for murder.

Go ahead and flame away hahaha.
We'll likely never know what was really said between the two, who inititiated the contact or whether Treyvon went for Zimmerman's gun, but I don't believe your assumptions are unreasonable.
Oh you are 100 % right about never knowing everything that transpired between zimmy and trey. Im just giving something to chew on based on what detective serino kept asking zimmy, ''what set treyvon martin off so bad that he would attack you like that ''.
They found maryjane in his system.. He was trying to chew Zimmerman's face off.. I'd have shot him too...
 
Still, Serino in that report faulted Zimmerman for twice passing up the chance to tell the 17-year-old that he was a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, something that may well have defused the situation.

The paperwork also reveals that Sanford police concluded that Trayvon was running toward the townhouse where he was staying when the two confronted each other.

And it shows that they believed Zimmerman was following Trayvon, something the second-degree murder defendant initially admitted but later denied.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-06-26/news/os-george-zimmerman-latest-evidence-20120626_1_special-prosecutor-release-statements
(If we can believe this journalist hasn't taken some liberties here, as has become often apparent in the media's coverage of this case) Zimmerman should have identified himself, but that doesn't make him guilty of murder. That will have relatively no bearing on the outcome of the murder charge.

The police concluded incorrectly that Trayvon was running home. It's obvious for many reasons that he wasn't. If Trayvon was "running home", he would have gotten home before Zimmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher. But he never made it further than 20some feet from the corner of the building he disappeared behind while Zimmerman was on the phone. Zimmerman looses sight of him, a minute and a half goes by while he's still on the phone, then somehow, he's still right there when Zimmerman hangs up. I think even the anti-Zimmerman crowd can agree here. Trayvon was not running home.

The police believed that he was following, I think we all have. I don't think it changes the outcome of the murder charges. It's obvious that he didn't follow him any further than what was represented on the 911 call. Because the incident happened at a spot Zimmerman had already visited while on the phone.

Zimmerman may have made some mistakes.. We don't know because we weren't there. But if the worst mistakes he made was initially following Trayvon, and then not identifying himself once face to face with the confrontation, that still doesn't remove his ability to defend himself, and doesn't prove he was intent on killing Trayvon.
You are a true piece of work. Keep fighting bro, we are all still laughing at you.
After reading the entire police report that was just released and watching and listening to all the interviews this is my conclusion of how this went down.

George Zimmerman saw a person who he didn't recognize in HIS neighborhood and decided to watch Treyvons movements.Treyvon at some point sees zimmy park and look at him as he walked. Hes on the phone talking to his GF and minding his own business. He may or may not have gone towards zimms car , im guessing he started to but zimm rolled up his window negating any engagement. Treyvon continues to walk home and zimm starts to follow him in his truck. Trey sees this and starts to move a little faster. During police questioning zimm could not or would not tell detective serino what kind of run it was, whether he was jogging or sprinting or just walking fast. Judging by his GF`s description he was running, as she said he was breathing hard, but that could have been from being nervous as well. I think zimm didnt want to say that because it would really seem like the kid was trying to move away from zimm asap. So zimm gets out of his car to pursue the ####### punk because hes gonna get away if he doesn't I dont think zimmerman had any ill will at this point , just him being him, captain watchman. I dont think he was getting any address for the cops because he never did , even after he went all the way from twin trees ln to retreatview circle and stood under something to keep out of the rain before heading back to his truck to meet the cops.So MY thought is he never stopped looking for treyvon, he went around the buildings looking for him and i think treyvon was hiding in that area. I think treyvon saw zimmy and finally had enough and came out into the open and asked zimmy whats up and zimmy never identified himself , he just started talking back to treyvon.Words were exchanged and at some point i believe zimmy said something that set treyvon off...called him a punk or worse, maybe the N word was said. Something pissed treyvon off bad enough for him to attack zimmy during the encounter, it wasnt just him being followed.Something bad was said . Now zimmy is in a fight and because treyvon has the upper hand zimmy pulls his gun and shoots treyvon martin in the chest killing him.

By the way the law is written and the fact that treyvon cant tell his side of the story all we have is the word of a man who has proven that he is capable and willing to lie to police and the courts.I think he embellished most of the story and twisted it to suit his cause. With that said , i think the pro zimm crowd is correct in saying it will be next to impossible to convict zimmerman for murder.

Go ahead and flame away hahaha.
We'll likely never know what was really said between the two, who inititiated the contact or whether Treyvon went for Zimmerman's gun, but I don't believe your assumptions are unreasonable.
Oh you are 100 % right about never knowing everything that transpired between zimmy and trey. Im just giving something to chew on based on what detective serino kept asking zimmy, ''what set treyvon martin off so bad that he would attack you like that ''.
They found maryjane in his system.. He was trying to chew Zimmerman's face off.. I'd have shot him too...
Now THIS is possible...zombies are taking over florida
 
So they have a tape which is undoubtedly George Zimmerman screaming for his life and they want to charge him with second degree murder? Or I suppose we are to stupidly believe based on some ridiculous bias shown by many throughout this thread, that Martin was screaming for his life for about a minute as he wailed upon Zimmerman's face. This case is so pathetic. This is so clearly a case of self-defense, but let's give into the racial pimps and charge the 'white' guy.

 
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