Food Stamps and the $41 Cake (1 Viewer)

[Marvin]

You know you are dead wrong here. There is no reason you have to pay 41 bucks for a birthday cake. Period. Ever. End of discussion. If her son's self esteem hinges on a cake costing 20 bucks or 41 bucks, then you sir have at least identified the problem.

My wife makes custom cakes and cookies as a side job. Most of her cakes cost more than $41 and they're freaking awesome. Now what?

 

[SacramentoBob]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/mario-batali-food-stamp-challenge_n_1517572.html

To much of the world, it was Monday. To Mario Batali, it was Day Four.The chef, his wife and their two teenage sons are eating for a week on the equivalent of a food stamp budget in protest of potential cuts pending in Congress to the benefit program used by more than 46 million Americans.That's $31 per person for the week, or about $1.48 per meal each.Goodbye restaurants, free nibbles on his talk show "The Chew" and all the luxe offerings at Eataly, the high-end New York City market he co-owns. Hello Trader Joe's, Jack's Dollar Store, Gristedes and Western Beef, a low-cost supermarket chain."I'm (expletive deleted) starving," said Batali, who's on the board of the food relief agency Food Bank for New York City, which issued the challenge to celeb pals like Batali and anybody else who wants to know what it's like.

Can a family of 4 not get by on over $500 month for food at a grocery store? Can coupons not be used with food stamps? This does not seem that tough to me.

A family of 4? Depends on what you mean by get by. We were a family of 4. 1 single mom and 3 boys. We'd go through about $200 worth of food in a week.

 

[parasaurolophus]

No matter what she does, it doesn't cost anyone a dime extra than it already would, so I don't see what the big deal is.

I think most rational people would get upset if they gave someone $100 to feed their family and they spent almost half of it on an ice cream cake.

Heaven forbid they spend $10 of it on pride.

Once again the problem is identified. Why are all of the supporters of this 41 cake so caught up in the fact that an expensive cake paid for with tax dollars equals pride? It shouldn't. The role of food assistance should be to make sure people dont go hungry. Period. You know one of the things I remember most about my grandpa? Sitting at the window watching him outside at night in the middle of a rainstorm so he can scoop up worms. Then helping him sort them by size into random containers so we had worms to fish with. My grandpa could barely speak because of his emphsyma, and seldom did. But I can always remember him saying things like "we got a lot of noodles tonight" or "should we have your grandma make some meatballs?". I of course thought it was hilarious.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

You are a tool hutchins.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Sorry no happiness for you this year Timmy, your mom's poor.

 

[SeveredHorseHeads]

These poor people think they are so great. I'm glad to see one of them get knocked down a peg.

 

[tommyGunZ]

No matter what she does, it doesn't cost anyone a dime extra than it already would, so I don't see what the big deal is.

I think most rational people would get upset if they gave someone $100 to feed their family and they spent almost half of it on an ice cream cake.

Heaven forbid they spend $10 of it on pride.

Once again the problem is identified. Why are all of the supporters of this 41 cake so caught up in the fact that an expensive cake paid for with tax dollars equals pride? It shouldn't. The role of food assistance should be to make sure people dont go hungry. Period. You know one of the things I remember most about my grandpa? Sitting at the window watching him outside at night in the middle of a rainstorm so he can scoop up worms. Then helping him sort them by size into random containers so we had worms to fish with. My grandpa could barely speak because of his emphsyma, and seldom did. But I can always remember him saying things like "we got a lot of noodles tonight" or "should we have your grandma make some meatballs?". I of course thought it was hilarious.

Was it your grandpa who taught you how to make ice cream cakes w/o baking the cake part?

 

[SacramentoBob]

These poor people think they are so great. I'm glad to see one of them get knocked down a peg.

 

[Marvin]

These poor people think they are so great. I'm glad to see one of them get knocked down a peg.

 

[SacramentoBob]

parasaurolophus needs to just slink on out of here quietly.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Are we really arguing over ice cream cakes here?

I'm waiting for parasaurolophus to explain how one makes the cake part of an ice cream cake w/o baking.

I know you think this is a gotcha moment here so I will try and keep it simple.1 package chocolate chip cookies2 quarts vanilla ice cream1 bottle whipped cream or cool whip container Less than 15 bucks. Enjoy.We have also used Oreos. I can make a video for you if it is too hard to figure out.You could also buy entenmanns brownies if you want to splurge.Or you could buy (insert almost anything here) and make it with (insert relative here)

 

[tommyGunZ]

Are we really arguing over ice cream cakes here?

I'm waiting for parasaurolophus to explain how one makes the cake part of an ice cream cake w/o baking.

I know you think this is a gotcha moment here so I will try and keep it simple.1 package chocolate chip cookies

2 quarts vanilla ice cream

1 bottle whipped cream or cool whip container

Less than 15 bucks. Enjoy.

We have also used Oreos. I can make a video for you if it is too hard to figure out.

You could also buy entenmanns brownies if you want to splurge.

Or you could buy (insert almost anything here) and make it with (insert relative here)

Thanks, I'd love to see the video. Feel free to provide a link here in this thread after you've complete it.

 

[FatMax]

I'd like a video too. My wife would love to learn how to make ice cream cakes, but God bless her, she can't read.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Are we really arguing over ice cream cakes here?

I'm waiting for parasaurolophus to explain how one makes the cake part of an ice cream cake w/o baking.

I know you think this is a gotcha moment here so I will try and keep it simple.1 package chocolate chip cookies

2 quarts vanilla ice cream

1 bottle whipped cream or cool whip container

Less than 15 bucks. Enjoy.

We have also used Oreos. I can make a video for you if it is too hard to figure out.

You could also buy entenmanns brownies if you want to splurge.

Or you could buy (insert almost anything here) and make it with (insert relative here)

Thanks, I'd love to see the video. Feel free to provide a link here in this thread after you've complete it.

And don't skip the part where you throw the cake in the trash in front of an audience of hungry kids.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Are we really arguing over ice cream cakes here?

I'm waiting for parasaurolophus to explain how one makes the cake part of an ice cream cake w/o baking.

I know you think this is a gotcha moment here so I will try and keep it simple.1 package chocolate chip cookies

2 quarts vanilla ice cream

1 bottle whipped cream or cool whip container

Less than 15 bucks. Enjoy.

We have also used Oreos. I can make a video for you if it is too hard to figure out.

You could also buy entenmanns brownies if you want to splurge.

Or you could buy (insert almost anything here) and make it with (insert relative here)

Thanks, I'd love to see the video. Feel free to provide a link here in this thread after you've complete it.

Just let me know when it is one of your kid's birthdays and I will be happy to help. here is a link to get you started in the meantime. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=no+bake+ice+cream+cake+with+oreos&oq=no+bake+ice+cream+cake+with+oreos&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=youtube.3...14622.17530.0.18464.6.6.0.0.0.0.175.960.0j6.6.0...0.0.ygOUC9nXUM4

 

[bostonfred]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

Wow. I dont think you understand just how awful a thing you just said, because I can't picture a person who did and would knowingly say it. But maybe you're right. Whatever you think I should do for my mother, and my brother, now imagine what you're not doing for that homeless guy who has no family, and who you don't think deserves forty dollars worth of discretionary money. Tell me how you sleep at night knowing that your vote is for him to get even less.Then we can talk about how I've spent my money, driving three hours and fifty dollars each way round trip on the weekends to pick her up so she can see her grandson at least once a month, searching for my homeless and severely mentally ill brother in california who got caught up in the legal system when the cops tired of tazering him for trespassing and siced a k9 unit on him, then when he freaked out and hit the dog, he got jailed for felony assault on a police officer. Tell me how I should have spent more money on him, after repeatedly trying to get him back here, spending thousands to do it. Tell me how spending my weekends trying to find him a place while he was so traumatized between jail, post traumatic stress, severe paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis, that he would literally wake up howling in the middle of the night, and can't think without talking aloud, tell me how I should have spent that time better. Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, and some clean clothes, and some basic housewares, so he can move in with a roommate who is going to do his best to deal with my brother for as long as possible, when my brother literally doesn't have a single change of clothes that fit him aside from the ones he's wearing right now. Tell me how I shouldn't take my son down there so my mom can see him, and take her grocery shopping the way I try to do every time I can get down there, even though its hard enough to truck kids around on local errands. Tell me how i should juggle that with a job, and a wife, and a lawn that needs mowing, and a baby who i will only get to spend twenty nice summer days with as a one year old in my entire life, and i have to give up most of one of those days every time i hop in the car, just like I've picked her up for every major holiday since she, in a particularly bad day many, many years ago in her own bout of mental illness, literally gave her car away without telling me, because she didn't thin God wanted her driving anymore and she needed to focus more on prayer. Tell me again how much you know about my life, you miserable ****.

 

[Nipsey]

Don't waste your time, BF.

 

[Apple Jack]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

You are a tool hutchins.

Tool implies something useful to the world. This guy needs to just end.Try to not let the trolls jerking themselves off trying to spread their misery wind you up, BF. You sound like a good son dealing with extraordinary circumstances.

 

[hutchins929]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

You are a tool hutchins.

you guys can't take some ?

 

[hutchins929]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

Wow. I dont think you understand just how awful a thing you just said, because I can't picture a person who did and would knowingly say it. But maybe you're right. Whatever you think I should do for my mother, and my brother, now imagine what you're not doing for that homeless guy who has no family, and who you don't think deserves forty dollars worth of discretionary money. Tell me how you sleep at night knowing that your vote is for him to get even less.Then we can talk about how I've spent my money, driving three hours and fifty dollars each way round trip on the weekends to pick her up so she can see her grandson at least once a month, searching for my homeless and severely mentally ill brother in california who got caught up in the legal system when the cops tired of tazering him for trespassing and siced a k9 unit on him, then when he freaked out and hit the dog, he got jailed for felony assault on a police officer. Tell me how I should have spent more money on him, after repeatedly trying to get him back here, spending thousands to do it. Tell me how spending my weekends trying to find him a place while he was so traumatized between jail, post traumatic stress, severe paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis, that he would literally wake up howling in the middle of the night, and can't think without talking aloud, tell me how I should have spent that time better. Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, and some clean clothes, and some basic housewares, so he can move in with a roommate who is going to do his best to deal with my brother for as long as possible, when my brother literally doesn't have a single change of clothes that fit him aside from the ones he's wearing right now. Tell me how I shouldn't take my son down there so my mom can see him, and take her grocery shopping the way I try to do every time I can get down there, even though its hard enough to truck kids around on local errands. Tell me how i should juggle that with a job, and a wife, and a lawn that needs mowing, and a baby who i will only get to spend twenty nice summer days with as a one year old in my entire life, and i have to give up most of one of those days every time i hop in the car, just like I've picked her up for every major holiday since she, in a particularly bad day many, many years ago in her own bout of mental illness, literally gave her car away without telling me, because she didn't thin God wanted her driving anymore and she needed to focus more on prayer. Tell me again how much you know about my life, you miserable ****.

God, it was a ####### joke! But in all seriousness I don't pretend to know your life. I just make a smart ### comment about a post. That's all!Besides you don't know what the hell I've done for people in need.

 

[datonn]

Wow. I dont think you understand just how awful a thing you just said, because I can't picture a person who did and would knowingly say it. But maybe you're right. Whatever you think I should do for my mother, and my brother, now imagine what you're not doing for that homeless guy who has no family, and who you don't think deserves forty dollars worth of discretionary money. Tell me how you sleep at night knowing that your vote is for him to get even less.

Then we can talk about how I've spent my money, driving three hours and fifty dollars each way round trip on the weekends to pick her up so she can see her grandson at least once a month, searching for my homeless and severely mentally ill brother in california who got caught up in the legal system when the cops tired of tazering him for trespassing and siced a k9 unit on him, then when he freaked out and hit the dog, he got jailed for felony assault on a police officer. Tell me how I should have spent more money on him, after repeatedly trying to get him back here, spending thousands to do it. Tell me how spending my weekends trying to find him a place while he was so traumatized between jail, post traumatic stress, severe paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis, that he would literally wake up howling in the middle of the night, and can't think without talking aloud, tell me how I should have spent that time better. Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, and some clean clothes, and some basic housewares, so he can move in with a roommate who is going to do his best to deal with my brother for as long as possible, when my brother literally doesn't have a single change of clothes that fit him aside from the ones he's wearing right now. Tell me how I shouldn't take my son down there so my mom can see him, and take her grocery shopping the way I try to do every time I can get down there, even though its hard enough to truck kids around on local errands. Tell me how i should juggle that with a job, and a wife, and a lawn that needs mowing, and a baby who i will only get to spend twenty nice summer days with as a one year old in my entire life, and i have to give up most of one of those days every time i hop in the car, just like I've picked her up for every major holiday since she, in a particularly bad day many, many years ago in her own bout of mental illness, literally gave her car away without telling me, because she didn't thin God wanted her driving anymore and she needed to focus more on prayer. Tell me again how much you know about my life, you miserable ****.

Well stated. Bravo! I get the same crap from people on the periphery of my own life who think I should "take the afternoon off to chaperon the kids on a school field trip," when I'm working 12-14 hours/day (six days/week) just to keep food on the table and a roof over our heads. Or who criticize me because I don't send my sister (selfish, bipolar, could spend an entire week on Dr. Phil with her daughters throwing chairs and talkin' "haters hate") or my Dad (see my sister's selfishness and bipolar, along with him divorcing my Mom after my Mom wouldn't let him blow tens of thousands of dollars of an inheritance on new car(s), books, and DVDs) checks when they are in the process of losing their homes or can't afford propane for heat. Or who think I'm a terrible husband for not romancing and wining/dining my wife more...when she has barely smiled in my direction (much less anything else) since we had kids ten years ago.

What's always entertaining *and* sad about the FFA, is you get all these arm-chair QBs who think they've got life figured out (who are probably young enough to be a lot of our kids...and their biggest stress or dilemma in life is that Psychology final next week or having to work an extra two hours on their evening shift before going out to party with their friends), who don't know ####. Either that, or they do have life figured out, are miserable in their daily existence, and decide that making other people (generally strangers) around them miserable will make them feel a little less bad. The people who think they've got life by the short-hairs are the ones to watch out for...as they are either naive or delusional. Or so selfish that they just don't care who they stomp on and piss-off around them.

 

[Ryno]

Even though I am in the Costco Shopping tax bracket and absolutely love ice cream cake, I can't bring myself to pay $41 for one of those things, maybe I'm cheap. As for what this lady decides to do with her food stamps, as long as she isn't selling her card to buy meth, I could really care less.

 

[hutchins929]

Getting back to the issue at hand. My wife worked as a cashier several years ago and this guy came in at like 1 in the morning and bought about 200 bucks in coke cans just so he could go into the parking lot and empty them all out and return them for the deposit money. He then took that and bought a case of beer!

 

[mr roboto]

I'm hungry. Where the hell is the cake parasnufalufugus or whatever his name is said he was gonna make?

 

[EYLive]

The average income of Costco discount shoppers, it was reported recently, is $96,000

Per person, or total household income? Sounds like a lot.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I'm hungry. Where the hell is the cake parasnufalufugus or whatever his name is said he was gonna make?

Like he's going to share his hard earned cake money with you.

 

[cstu]

Baking a cake down?

 

[cstu]

The average income of Costco discount shoppers, it was reported recently, is $96,000

Per person, or total household income? Sounds like a lot.

I shop there so it skews the average a bit.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

My mentally ill mother and brother are on food stamps. They don't have a car, but there are outreach programs which will help them with basic errands like shopping once a week for an hour or two. Outside that, if they want anything in their relatively rural locatioh, they have to walk a mile to the store, or two or more miles to a discount store or grocery store. My mother doesnt use the internet, but my brother goes to the library when the weather is ok and uses their connection for the short time allowed. The amount of energy required to perform the very basic tasks that we take for granted is enormous.

My brother, before the mental illness made him functionally incapable of working, developed a smoking habit, gets takeout, and drinks beer whenever he can sneak away. He spends his money as fast as it comes in. My mother is the opposite - she doesn't eat meat, wont order food at a restaurant unless she's dragged there, has never drank or smoked, stashes cheap foodstuffs in her fridge and cupboards with an intricate collection of leftovers that she shares with friends when they run out of money at the end of the month, and is as generous as they come.

When I hear people complaing about people on welfare, and look at the scraps my family lives on because they had the same genes I do but just didn't have the good fortune I've had in my life, it makes my stomach turn. Ive lived in low income, urban neighborhoods and seen people abuse the system, and those who dont. I've seen more affluent people lose their job and need unemployment to avoid losing their homes, and I've seen wealthy owners of small seasonal businesses claim unemployment during the months they choose to close up shop. If you create a system to help people, some undeserving people will always abuse it. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

This guy sees someone buy a ####### cake, decides its too expensive for them, then pats himself on the back for being able to afford a costco membership, a car, the time and gas to go across town 20 extra minutes on the weekend, the space in his home to store huge boxes of bulk goods, and the money to spend on things today that he wont use until tomorrow. But he doesn't take the time to ask if this is a single mom who is trying to help her kid have a cake with his friends so he will have some self confidence and wont feel like the poor kid who can't have a birthday party for reasons that have nothing to do with him, or if this mother is dealing with some other life issues like mental illness, substance abuse, or unemployment, or if this mother has the luxury to go on longer trips to the store or if it means that shed have to bring her youger baby in a car seat she can't afford or leave them with a babysitter who can't be bothered to watch a kid for a couple hours while she gets a two gallon jar of mayonnaise. He just says, this ladys stupid, and we shouldn't give her money anymore. Maybe he can spit on some homeless people on the way home and make himself feel even better.

Sorry about your family, but this isn't an isolated case. One of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is because of people(dirtbags) who pull crap like this. I spent 10 years working in retail grocery and believe me, this is not an isolated case. People will buy shrimp trays, nice cuts of meat, and other 'luxuries' that even most of the employees of the store (most of whom bust their ### for $8.00 an hour) cannot afford. Whatever though, from the sound of most of the jokers on this thread, nobody gives a rip about this, which is why these parasites are able to get away with such graft.

Only an idiot would suggest that we get rid of welfare, it is however high time to take a close look at what people are able to purchase with their 'free' money. I don't think it would be a bad idea to make them all go to government warehouses to pick up the staples that are needed to survive. In the end, that is most likely what is going to happen anyways once the dollar is no longer the standard currency and the libs run out of other peoples' money to borrow and spend.

It would be even easier / more cost effective to house them in internment camps and supervise their work for food. The bodies of the weak could be used to fuel the boilers which provide power to the facility. And lets face it, the kind of people who would be housed here are basically inferior anyway, so we would be enhancing the gene pool by eliminating the weak. We could call it the final solution or something.Please re-evaluate your life. Thank you, and have a nice day.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I think I found parasaurolophus.

 

[Chaka]

To be fair...it is pretty time consuming to make an ice cream cake.

As an ex-employee of Häagen-Dazs, I feel qualified to say that no it's really not.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Are we really arguing over ice cream cakes here?

I'm waiting for parasaurolophus to explain how one makes the cake part of an ice cream cake w/o baking.

I know you think this is a gotcha moment here so I will try and keep it simple.1 package chocolate chip cookies

2 quarts vanilla ice cream

1 bottle whipped cream or cool whip container

Less than 15 bucks. Enjoy.

We have also used Oreos. I can make a video for you if it is too hard to figure out.

You could also buy entenmanns brownies if you want to splurge.

Or you could buy (insert almost anything here) and make it with (insert relative here)

Thanks, I'd love to see the video. Feel free to provide a link here in this thread after you've complete it.

Just let me know when it is one of your kid's birthdays and I will be happy to help. here is a link to get you started in the meantime. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=no+bake+ice+cream+cake+with+oreos&oq=no+bake+ice+cream+cake+with+oreos&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=youtube.3...14622.17530.0.18464.6.6.0.0.0.0.175.960.0j6.6.0...0.0.ygOUC9nXUM4

Thanks, but I'd prefer to see the personalized video you volunteered.Thanks in advance.

 

[Chaka]

This guy sees someone buy a ####### cake, decides its too expensive for them, then pats himself on the back for being able to afford a costco membership, a car, the time and gas to go across town 20 extra minutes on the weekend, the space in his home to store huge boxes of bulk goods, and the money to spend on things today that he wont use until tomorrow. But he doesn't take the time to ask if this is a single mom who is trying to help her kid have a cake with his friends so he will have some self confidence and wont feel like the poor kid who can't have a birthday party for reasons that have nothing to do with him, or if this mother is dealing with some other life issues like mental illness, substance abuse, or unemployment, or if this mother has the luxury to go on longer trips to the store or if it means that shed have to bring her youger baby in a car seat she can't afford or leave them with a babysitter who can't be bothered to watch a kid for a couple hours while she gets a two gallon jar of mayonnaise. He just says, this ladys stupid, and we shouldn't give her money anymore. Maybe he can spit on some homeless people on the way home and make himself feel even better.

No one should be buying a $41 cake with public benefits. Sorry.

You dont sound like someone who has walked a mile in those shoes. I hope for your sake you don't have to.

You can get very nice looking, tasty cakes for a lot less than $41 at any large grocery store and it would deliver just as much happiness to a 12 year old.I'm just saying.Mind you I would feel this way regardless of the income of the person purchasing the cake.

 

[humpback]

How many of those cakes does this guy need?

 

[tommyGunZ]

This guy sees someone buy a ####### cake, decides its too expensive for them, then pats himself on the back for being able to afford a costco membership, a car, the time and gas to go across town 20 extra minutes on the weekend, the space in his home to store huge boxes of bulk goods, and the money to spend on things today that he wont use until tomorrow. But he doesn't take the time to ask if this is a single mom who is trying to help her kid have a cake with his friends so he will have some self confidence and wont feel like the poor kid who can't have a birthday party for reasons that have nothing to do with him, or if this mother is dealing with some other life issues like mental illness, substance abuse, or unemployment, or if this mother has the luxury to go on longer trips to the store or if it means that shed have to bring her youger baby in a car seat she can't afford or leave them with a babysitter who can't be bothered to watch a kid for a couple hours while she gets a two gallon jar of mayonnaise. He just says, this ladys stupid, and we shouldn't give her money anymore. Maybe he can spit on some homeless people on the way home and make himself feel even better.

No one should be buying a $41 cake with public benefits. Sorry.

You dont sound like someone who has walked a mile in those shoes. I hope for your sake you don't have to.

You can get very nice looking, tasty cakes for a lot less than $41 at any large grocery store and it would deliver just as much happiness to a 12 year old.I'm just saying.

Mind you I would feel this way regardless of the income of the person purchasing the cake.

How can you possibly pretend to know how much happiness different cakes provide to any random 12 yr old?

 

[SacramentoBob]

This guy sees someone buy a ####### cake, decides its too expensive for them, then pats himself on the back for being able to afford a costco membership, a car, the time and gas to go across town 20 extra minutes on the weekend, the space in his home to store huge boxes of bulk goods, and the money to spend on things today that he wont use until tomorrow. But he doesn't take the time to ask if this is a single mom who is trying to help her kid have a cake with his friends so he will have some self confidence and wont feel like the poor kid who can't have a birthday party for reasons that have nothing to do with him, or if this mother is dealing with some other life issues like mental illness, substance abuse, or unemployment, or if this mother has the luxury to go on longer trips to the store or if it means that shed have to bring her youger baby in a car seat she can't afford or leave them with a babysitter who can't be bothered to watch a kid for a couple hours while she gets a two gallon jar of mayonnaise. He just says, this ladys stupid, and we shouldn't give her money anymore. Maybe he can spit on some homeless people on the way home and make himself feel even better.

No one should be buying a $41 cake with public benefits. Sorry.

You dont sound like someone who has walked a mile in those shoes. I hope for your sake you don't have to.

You can get very nice looking, tasty cakes for a lot less than $41 at any large grocery store and it would deliver just as much happiness to a 12 year old.I'm just saying.

Mind you I would feel this way regardless of the income of the person purchasing the cake.

How can you possibly pretend to know how much happiness different cakes provide to any random 12 yr old?

Going a little overboard here.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I'm not gonna weigh-in until someone shows me a breakdown of happiness/$1 spent on at least 30 different cakes from 10 different stores.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

I'd like a video too. My wife would love to learn how to make ice cream cakes, but God bless her, she can't read.

 

[Sup_Larry]

when most people go to the store to get a cake, they drive. They choose the store that has the product they want at the price they want, choose between cake mix and cake, and they might even buy some candles or some milk or some other groceries while they're out. If the only cake there is forty one bucks, they leave, or they just have forty one fewer bucks to blow on entertainment that week. If my mom goes to the store, and hasn't planned a week in advance to buy it on her outing, then she's walking for 20 minutes or so each way. Hope the weathers nice. She goes to the closest store that might sell cake, ideally the cheaper store if there are a couple options. She doesn't have a lot of cooking equipment - she tends to use meatloaf pans because they're cheaper and stackable and she can fit several in her small oven at once. Thats not really conducive to making a cake. If there isn't a lot of variety or she doesn't like the price, she goes home. That's an hour of her life, and shes in her sixties, so she's isn't taking lots of walks like that every day. If she wants the cake and some milk, she better figure out a way to carry both. She uses old reusable shopping bags because they're softer on her hands for long walks, but with a cake you really want to use both hands. If she spends forty bucks on something, she literally figured out to the dollar what she has to cut from her budget. If she decided to buy a cake because I told her I was bringing her only grandson over for his birthday, and she wanted him to enjoy a day with her, when she feels embarrassed that she can't do more for him and wants nothing more than to enjoy a happy day with her family, then God bless her, even if it costs forty TWO dollars. Id try to take her grocery shopping later, and id pay for her groceries knowing she couldn't afford too many luxuries. But once in a while, let her feel some self worth, for providing something to a child who doesn't understand why he sees one grandma every day and the other one every few weeks, and the first grandma has nice toys and a backyard, while the second one has a small apartment where there's nothing to do and not much room to run around. Begrudging someone a one time expense without knowing the rest of the story is just wrong.

What you couldn't stop by and take her to the grocery store a couple times a week? You couldn't buy your kid an extra birthday present and give it to your mom to give to your kid? You know what??? That post proves one thing... You suck as a son!

Wow. I dont think you understand just how awful a thing you just said, because I can't picture a person who did and would knowingly say it. But maybe you're right. Whatever you think I should do for my mother, and my brother, now imagine what you're not doing for that homeless guy who has no family, and who you don't think deserves forty dollars worth of discretionary money. Tell me how you sleep at night knowing that your vote is for him to get even less.Then we can talk about how I've spent my money, driving three hours and fifty dollars each way round trip on the weekends to pick her up so she can see her grandson at least once a month, searching for my homeless and severely mentally ill brother in california who got caught up in the legal system when the cops tired of tazering him for trespassing and siced a k9 unit on him, then when he freaked out and hit the dog, he got jailed for felony assault on a police officer. Tell me how I should have spent more money on him, after repeatedly trying to get him back here, spending thousands to do it. Tell me how spending my weekends trying to find him a place while he was so traumatized between jail, post traumatic stress, severe paranoid schizophrenia and psychosis, that he would literally wake up howling in the middle of the night, and can't think without talking aloud, tell me how I should have spent that time better. Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, and some clean clothes, and some basic housewares, so he can move in with a roommate who is going to do his best to deal with my brother for as long as possible, when my brother literally doesn't have a single change of clothes that fit him aside from the ones he's wearing right now. Tell me how I shouldn't take my son down there so my mom can see him, and take her grocery shopping the way I try to do every time I can get down there, even though its hard enough to truck kids around on local errands. Tell me how i should juggle that with a job, and a wife, and a lawn that needs mowing, and a baby who i will only get to spend twenty nice summer days with as a one year old in my entire life, and i have to give up most of one of those days every time i hop in the car, just like I've picked her up for every major holiday since she, in a particularly bad day many, many years ago in her own bout of mental illness, literally gave her car away without telling me, because she didn't thin God wanted her driving anymore and she needed to focus more on prayer. Tell me again how much you know about my life, you miserable ****.

Serious Question: Given your situation, did you even consider not having children?

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Serious Question:

Really?

 

[Parrothead]

I'm not gonna weigh-in until someone shows me a breakdown of happiness/$1 spent on at least 30 different cakes from 10 different stores.

For me, a $5 pack of Twinkees = happiness

 

[cosjobs]

Who cares if anyone has walked a mile.....if they want a cake they should buy a Pillsbury one and frost it themselves for $15 instead of $40.

My mom can't make a cake like you're describing. She has a tiny oven less than a foot across in her subsidized studio. She doesn't own a cake pan and doesn't have a lot of room to store one. She can't always get a ride to the store, and the last time she walked, she fell and hit her head. She's a wonderfully kind hearted woman who wants to feel like her life is worthwhile and she's terribly depressed because she doesn't have the ability to do things for other people. Shes repeatedly tried working and can't because she sometimes flakes out and has to pray or thinks she's talking to god. When my son, her only grandson, comes to her rundown smalltown apartment, which is on the short list of things keeping her going, she doesn't have a tv with cable, or video games, or a computer, or a bunch of fancy toys for him. If she wants to buy a forty one dollar cake for him, in the hopes that he remembers that one good time at nanas house when he's older, do you really think that calling her a grafter is going to help? who the #### are you to pass judgement on her?

You dont bake an ice cream cake. HTH

You're thinking of ice cream batter. Ice cream cakes are baked, then fill and/or covered in ice cream. HTH

 

[Chaka]

This guy sees someone buy a ####### cake, decides its too expensive for them, then pats himself on the back for being able to afford a costco membership, a car, the time and gas to go across town 20 extra minutes on the weekend, the space in his home to store huge boxes of bulk goods, and the money to spend on things today that he wont use until tomorrow. But he doesn't take the time to ask if this is a single mom who is trying to help her kid have a cake with his friends so he will have some self confidence and wont feel like the poor kid who can't have a birthday party for reasons that have nothing to do with him, or if this mother is dealing with some other life issues like mental illness, substance abuse, or unemployment, or if this mother has the luxury to go on longer trips to the store or if it means that shed have to bring her youger baby in a car seat she can't afford or leave them with a babysitter who can't be bothered to watch a kid for a couple hours while she gets a two gallon jar of mayonnaise. He just says, this ladys stupid, and we shouldn't give her money anymore. Maybe he can spit on some homeless people on the way home and make himself feel even better.

No one should be buying a $41 cake with public benefits. Sorry.

You dont sound like someone who has walked a mile in those shoes. I hope for your sake you don't have to.

You can get very nice looking, tasty cakes for a lot less than $41 at any large grocery store and it would deliver just as much happiness to a 12 year old.I'm just saying.

Mind you I would feel this way regardless of the income of the person purchasing the cake.

How can you possibly pretend to know how much happiness different cakes provide to any random 12 yr old?

You must be joking.I don't think it is right to try to play this as an either/or scenario as if a single $41 dollar cake is the only remedy for anyone's happiness, particularly when there are so many options between a $41 cake and nothing. I don't think it is unfair or inhuman to suggest this particular mother had other options that any reasonable person, particularly one who needs food stamps, should possibly, maybe, perhaps consider.

 

[mr roboto]

This thread needs to die.

 

[Loan Sharks]

... Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, ...

I am going to need a break down of the ice cream cake to staples ratio.

 

[gmbacm]

You know you are dead wrong here. There is no reason you have to pay 41 bucks for a birthday cake. Period. Ever. End of discussion. If her son's self esteem hinges on a cake costing 20 bucks or 41 bucks, then you sir have at least identified the problem.

My wife makes custom cakes and cookies as a side job. Most of her cakes cost more than $41 and they're freaking awesome. Now what?

Send me some samples to verify your story... Penny cake.

 

[Billy Bats]

No idea wtf some of you are talking about, I've never eaten an ice cream cake that needed any baking.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The average income of Costco discount shoppers, it was reported recently, is $96,000

Per person, or total household income? Sounds like a lot.

Costco customers are notorious liars.

 

[Loan Sharks]

I'm with fred: I grew up on Welfare. I can remember going down to the supermarket as a kid and buying my ####ing Cherios with those ####ing neon-bright bills that you can spot from about a mile away, and trying to slink into my shoes as I pay. I can remember being a little embarrassed any time I threw something in the cart that wasn't completely healthy. ... I was embarrassed to eat free lunch for most of my school years....

Honestly I never had any stigma using the food stamps for the vast majority of my college years. It was a huge event outside the Kroger's every end of the month when the stamps would come out. There was literally a line of welfare recipients and the students, exchanging food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar. Us students got twice the food for our money and the crafty entrepreneurs got the booze and smokes. Oh and times have changed on the free lunch program, in Los Angeles 82% of the kids at my kids school get free lunches, I am embarrassed to pay for them. I feel like a sucker.

 

[Sarnoff]

... Tell me how I should be spending this weekend, instead of going out to get him groceries, ...

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