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Regardless of his supposed back ailments, if Simms does not change this week, it will be high time to consider benching Cadillac until further notice.

While his week 1 box score could have been attributed to a number of factors (Gruden doesn't fair well against good 34s, Simms kept throwing INTs or getting batted balls that ended drives, TB had to abandon the run early, missing both starting Guards in Buenning and Joseph), week 2 was very clearly the result of Simms' poor play.

I watched the entire first half very closely, and although I didn't see any stats displayed on FOX, I was very pleased with the way Cadillac was running the ball. He kept moving forward, he was nimble, and he just looked like he would break a long one if given more chances. At the least he looked as if he was gaining near on 4 ypc. When I looked at the box score, I was pretty appalled to find a sub 3.0ypc (believe it was 2.2 or 2.8 or something).

I realize that I have very high expectations of Cadillac this year (due to draft orders, I don't have him on any of my teams this year though), but in watching him play, I am convinced that he himself is not the cause of his problems. His health is fine, and his running is equally fine.

It's hard for me to place blame on Chris Simms because he was so good last year and showed a lot of promise, so that leaves me with blaming the head coach.

Before this season, it was well known that this would be the year that the offense takes that leap into the next tier. I believe the cause of these offensive struggles is that the complexity of Gruden's offense ballooned too fast for Simms.

And while that would appear clearly Simms' fault, it is the responsibility of the coach to know the capabilities of his players and make the most out of them.

Simms is a very strong-armed QB, and Gruden refuses to use the Shotgun formation. Despite trailing by at least two scores in each of the first two games by half time, not once has Gruden called a play in the Shotgun formation.

Additionally, the deep ball, which Gruden professed to emphasize this year with a healthy dosage of Cadillac, has also been quiet.

While I was very optimistic that this playcalling would work for the season, I am understandably pessimistic going forward, and as long as Gruden refuses to adapt his playbook back to what was working last year (a much more simplified version of his offense), I don't believe you will see worthwhile production from Cadillac.

There's a very good chance that Gruden will regress to last year's playbook for tomorrow's game versus Carolina, but there is certainly a chance he may not.

If I were a Cadillac owner, I would start him this week unless I had a very clearly better option, but after this week, I would strongly consider trading for a viable RB2/3 replacement to start over him until Gruden can get this team back on track, if that happens.

 
FWIW, I am benching Caddy this week in favor of Reggie Bush and Kevin Jones (0.5PPR, 1point/20yds. rec. or rush).

I spent way too much on him to sell low at this point, and I think the Bucs will get it going in the rushing game. They played 2 tough defenses already, using backup OL's. Things will get better.

Plus, remember last year, after his hot start, he had a stretch during midseason where he was sitting out or performing poorly. Then he turned it on again toward the end of the year. My only point here is that don't panic about a short stretch of bad games. He's shown the ability to rebound from this same situation before.

 
He's been brutal up to this point, but you must ride him out. You'd probably get raked over the coals in a trade right now.

My hunch is that they will get it figured out soon. I bet he has a monster game pretty soon... I imagine Gruden will get them motivated to play one of these days, and once he sees the running game going he is going to pound it hard to boost some confidence. Just a hunch.

All that being said, I'm thinking of benching caddy this week in favor of T Jones and S Jax...

 
I think Caddy owners must wait untill after the bye. His value is so low at this point, you wont get much in a trade.

I will start him this week against a Panthers D that has given up a ton of yards on the ground in 2 weeks.

This is a HUGE week for Caddy, I say boom or bust.

His last chance is Week 5 for me, then to the bench.

 
fornov said:
FWIW, I am benching Caddy this week in favor of Reggie Bush and Kevin Jones (0.5PPR, 1point/20yds. rec. or rush).I spent way too much on him to sell low at this point, and I think the Bucs will get it going in the rushing game. They played 2 tough defenses already, using backup OL's. Things will get better.Plus, remember last year, after his hot start, he had a stretch during midseason where he was sitting out or performing poorly. Then he turned it on again toward the end of the year. My only point here is that don't panic about a short stretch of bad games. He's shown the ability to rebound from this same situation before.
Kevin Jones = shut down, as usual . . . GB shut down Bush and McAllister on the ground, so they can be half asleep and still shut down KJ . . .
 
I haven't started him yet this season and will keep him on the bench until he shows me something. My other options aren't that strong in my type of league (TDs only) but I have to see something productive out of him before I can risk putting him in the lineup. Trading him is out of the question for two reasons. There is no way I'll get fair value out of him right now and 2, he's young and has a ton of potential and I'm in a keeper league. Even if it was a redraft league though, I wouldn't be moving him unless I got someone of equal value in return and I don't see that happening with the stats he's put up thus far. I suggest you all wait on him. His value won't get much lower, it can only go up.

 
Thus far he's been a huge disappointment, back spasms or not.

Week 1 (vs Ravens) Rushing: 8/22/0 Receiving: 5/25/0 (2.75 ypc)

Week 2 (at Falcons) Rushing: 15/37/0 Receiving: 0/0/0 (2.4 ypc)

Week 3 (vs. Panthers)

Week 4 BYE

Week 5 (at Saints)

I'd love to see a 22/105/1 as diesel said, but I'm skeptical until I see it. How many times can you start a guy that puts up 20-30 yards in the game w/o any TDs?

Gruden has to realize the Chris Simms isn't a tier 1 QB, and orient the offense around the type of plays he can make. Also, he can't abandon the run in the 2nd quarter when there's still 40 minutes of football left to play, even if they're down by 14 points. Tampa Bay is not going to win this year in the air, that much is clear.

 
I agree that the lack of production of Caddy over these 1st 2 weeks is strongly linked by Chuckys lack of commitment to the run. And I am nervous about this trend continuing.

Carolina still has a good defense. They did a pretty good job of bottling up Chester Taylor last week and forcing 15 3rd downs. The Vikings only converted 2 of those 15 3rd downs although they did convert 3 4th down conversions.

37 of Chester Taylors 113 yards rushing did not come until overtime. So the Panthers held him to 76 yards in 4 quarters of play.

Caddy is without a doubt a better Rb than Chester is imho. However the Vikings offensive line is just as much better than Tampas if not more so by comparision.

So the biggest difference I see here is from the coaching philosophy.

There has been a huge disparity in time of possesion for the Panthers in thier 1st 2 games. Even with how well they played on 3rd down against the Vikings. That is the fault of Carolinas offense imo moreso than the defense. DeAngelo Williams really gave Carolinas offense a spark they were missing and that lead to a scoring drive.

Tampa Bays defense gave 7 YPC to the Falcons last week. Rice Booger and Hovan are all listed as questionable with injuries. So I am not sure how effective Tampas defense will be against the Panthers.

It looks like Gruden will give up on Caddy if Carolina gets a lead. So that does not bode well for him as a prospect this week.

 
I have the luxury of being able to bench him in the dynasty league where I own him, so I'll hold on to him indefinitely and figure he'll bounce back (hopefully before Frank Gore gets injured).

 
I'm benching Caddy this week and playing J. Lewis & KJ. Right now, after starting Caddy the past two weeks I feel the same way I did 2 yrs ago when I bought into the Barlow hype. I had the 10th & 11th picks this year and took Jordan and Caddy. I left the draft thinking I had a great draft now I'm not feeling so great about it. And it wasn't just this site that had them ranked there - everybody did. I'm holding both because right now, I can't get anything worthwhile for either of them. Plus it's only been 2 weeks and I believe that nothing is as bad or as good as it seems this early. I hope! :bag:

I think the Carolina/TB game is on here this weekend so I will get a chance to see Caddy for the first time this season. Maybe I will change my mind after seeing him play.

Willie

 

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