For the love of God, do not elect Hilary Clinton next election. (1 Viewer)

[tommyboy]

more of the stupid media "joking"

the real joke is the media itself

‘Not The Onion’: Politico writes ‘1000+ word article’ on who made Hillary’s burritoPosted at 9:29 am on April 16, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments

The 'everyday people' who made Hillary Clinton's burrito bowl

By Michael Kruse

4/16/15 5:35 AM EDTUpdated

4/16/15 8:27 AM EDTRead more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/the-everyday-people-who-made-hillary-clintons-lunch-117018.html#ixzz3XU9PpIEq

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this is what qualifies as news now

####### morons

The head of the Republican party apparently believes that the Chipotle trip is quite newsworthy and relevant.

http://www.businessinsider.com/reince-priebus-slams-hillarys-chipotle-trip-2015-4

our country is ####ed.

I quit. I just paid an exorbitant amount of taxes yesterday for what amounts to the movie Idiocracy

 

[tommyboy]

I'm writing this guy in in 2016

President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QICUjgII20I/TZ4-UGFaOdI/AAAAAAAAAG0/B9xm5TWyknQ/s1600/camacho.jpg

 

[rct]

The head of the Republican party apparently believes that the Chipotle trip is quite newsworthy and relevant.

http://www.businessinsider.com/reince-priebus-slams-hillarys-chipotle-trip-2015-4

You can almost feel the desperation on the other side. This has the flavor of an article from The Onion:

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus believes former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's incognito trip to a Toledo-area Chipotle showed a crucial weakness in her presidential campaign.

In a Fox News interview Tuesday night, Priebus said the media is missing "the big thing" about Clinton's burrito bowl purchase. Notably, he said, Clinton's decision to don sunglasses and not introduce herself to anyone in the restaurant showsshe's trying to avoid public scrutiny.

Priebus also said Clinton is treating the Midwest as if it were Hollywood.

"When you think about the Hillary Clinton example, this whole 'Scooby Doo' van tour was supposed to be about the people, right?" Priebus asked. "And then what does she do? She puts on sunglasses. This is Iowa; it's not Hollywood. They're all walking into Chipotle with sunglasses on trying to hide from the public."

 

[General Malaise]

She must have had some more meals since visiting Chipotle, why haven't we heard about them? What is she trying to hide?

She has to send one of her pale, doughy, Rovian looking aides out to Chick Fillet to dine on delicious chicken sandwiches in secret, because if she gets spotted there by the media, her campaign will end immediately.

 

[Jayrod]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican. It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

 

[General Malaise]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican.It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

Clinton is +140 to win the presidency. Next up is Jeb Bush at +650. These are the Vegas Lines, which is akin to truth serum. You can keep telling yourself that people don't want to vote for her all you want, but right now, she is the heavy chalk to win this thing. Sorry.

 

[rct]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican.It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

Obama beat her, because he was Obama - and also that he had opposed the Iraqi war. It wasn't that democrats were in the "Anybody but Hillary" mindset.

 

[Rove!]

You guys are focusing on the wrong burrito hot take. TIPGHAZI is all well and good, but the Wall Street Journal wrote up her choice of "liberal" Chipotle over "centrist" Taco Bell. That's amazing. I can't even make up something that stupid, and I'm fairly stupid. And from the Washington blog of the Wall Street Journal, of all places.

That article is so ridiculous. Really unbelievable that this somehow passes for political discourse these days.

at some point the media went from issues oriented to horse race oriented....This is how things like Marco Rubio taking a sip of water become stories "oh gosh he had a sip of water...i think this disqualifies him"

 

[tonydead]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican.It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

You got any ringing endorsements for any of the other dirty, slime-ball career politicians?

 

[rct]

You guys are focusing on the wrong burrito hot take. TIPGHAZI is all well and good, but the Wall Street Journal wrote up her choice of "liberal" Chipotle over "centrist" Taco Bell. That's amazing. I can't even make up something that stupid, and I'm fairly stupid. And from the Washington blog of the Wall Street Journal, of all places.

That article is so ridiculous. Really unbelievable that this somehow passes for political discourse these days.

at some point the media went from issues oriented to horse race oriented....This is how things like Marco Rubio taking a sip of water become stories "oh gosh he had a sip of water...i think this disqualifies him"

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

 

[Jayrod]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican.It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

Obama beat her, because he was Obama - and also that he had opposed the Iraqi war. It wasn't that democrats were in the "Anybody but Hillary" mindset.

The guy hadn't done anything. If you don't think his win wasn't propelled by anti-Hillary sentiment, you weren't paying attention. I voted for Mitt despite not really liking him . It happens and while Obama is like able, there had to be some people uneasy with electing an unknown commodity.

 

[rockaction]

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

It's not often someone breaks the internet with the stupidity of a comment, but this seems to have done the trick.

a) it involves an obvious lack of objectivity and predetermined confirmation bias

b) it involves a completely innocuous action, like needing to get a drink of water

c) it judges somebody intellectually and professionally for needing to hydrate one's self

d) it uses a mealy-mouthed cliche to do so

Congrats, RCT. You've just added nothing to the discussion. The internet just stopped.

 

[rct]

Can someone explain what the reason is to vote FOR her? Is there a single good reason?

You referred to her as a "dirty, slimeball, career politician" so it doesn't matter what reason or reasons one could come up, as you would never accept them anyway. Pointless to try to discuss anything with someone who starts with your biases towards Hillary. And people have brought up reasons in this thread and in others, but of course you completely ignored them.

Well, my opinion aside, there don't seem to be many ringing endorsements in her favor. Mostly what I'm seeing is comments about who else is there and that she's not a Republican.It's one of the reasons Obama beat her, people are looking for anything else because they don't actually WANT to vote for her.

Obama beat her, because he was Obama - and also that he had opposed the Iraqi war. It wasn't that democrats were in the "Anybody but Hillary" mindset.

The guy hadn't done anything. If you don't think his win wasn't propelled by anti-Hillary sentiment, you weren't paying attention.

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

 

[humpback]

You guys are focusing on the wrong burrito hot take. TIPGHAZI is all well and good, but the Wall Street Journal wrote up her choice of "liberal" Chipotle over "centrist" Taco Bell. That's amazing. I can't even make up something that stupid, and I'm fairly stupid. And from the Washington blog of the Wall Street Journal, of all places.

That article is so ridiculous. Really unbelievable that this somehow passes for political discourse these days.

at some point the media went from issues oriented to horse race oriented....This is how things like Marco Rubio taking a sip of water become stories "oh gosh he had a sip of water...i think this disqualifies him"

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

This Hillary thing is nothing, but someone on the other team being thirsty, now that's important!

 

[humpback]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

 

[rct]

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

It's not often someone breaks the internet with the stupidity of a comment, but this seems to have done the trick.

a) it involves an obvious lack of objectivity and predetermined confirmation bias

b) it involves a completely innocuous action, like needing to get a drink of water

c) it judges somebody intellectually and professionally for needing to hydrate one's self

d) it uses a mealy-mouthed cliche to do so

Congrats, RCT. You've just added nothing to the discussion. The internet just stopped.

Thanks, if I could only bring insightful, thoughtful things to the discussion like this:

LEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

BIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

 

[rockaction]

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

It's not often someone breaks the internet with the stupidity of a comment, but this seems to have done the trick.

a) it involves an obvious lack of objectivity and predetermined confirmation bias

b) it involves a completely innocuous action, like needing to get a drink of water

c) it judges somebody intellectually and professionally for needing to hydrate one's self

d) it uses a mealy-mouthed cliche to do so

Congrats, RCT. You've just added nothing to the discussion. The internet just stopped.

Thanks, if I could only bring insightful, thoughtful things to the discussion like this:

LEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

BIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Well done, sir.

 

[rct]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

 

[Rove!]

You guys are focusing on the wrong burrito hot take. TIPGHAZI is all well and good, but the Wall Street Journal wrote up her choice of "liberal" Chipotle over "centrist" Taco Bell. That's amazing. I can't even make up something that stupid, and I'm fairly stupid. And from the Washington blog of the Wall Street Journal, of all places.

That article is so ridiculous. Really unbelievable that this somehow passes for political discourse these days.

at some point the media went from issues oriented to horse race oriented....This is how things like Marco Rubio taking a sip of water become stories "oh gosh he had a sip of water...i think this disqualifies him"

It disqualified him because he looked like a buffoon. Talk about not ready for prime time.

you guys are too hilarious

#SipOfWaterGate

 

[bigbottom]

I really need to redo this. Could be done so much better.

http://youtu.be/8x_XzfmCjK8

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Who the **** tips at a fast food restaurant? If anything, this is a point in her favor. These tip jars are out of control.

Anyone who's ever worked behind a counter for minimum wage maybe???

Maybe people who have made over $120 million in the last 10 years, those who head a $2 billion foundation, or maybe those planning to spend $2.5 billion on one campaign and are currently ranting about the struggles of the lower and middle class???

You called the story out for the bat#### insane nonsense it was, and then pretended it had substance less than ten minutes later. Stop it. I mean, I expect that nonsense from the vast right-wing conspiracy, but you're better than that.

Also, six question marks??? Are you really that incredulous???

The first point is the press coverage of Hillary's campaign so far has been hollow and frivolous and that's partly caused by a huge troop of reporters who have next to no access to the woman likely to be our next president.

The guy had a serious response to a non-serious issue, I think we can have fun talking about rich people not tipping poor service industry workers (Drew Brees can relate). I think many/most of us have been on the other side of a tip jar, so mostly that's the where the action is when someone asks why fast food workers should be tipped.

I acknowledge I have a problem with punctuation?!? Please don't judge.

 

[Rove!]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

 

[rct]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

He wasn't President when Colin Powell did his WMD slide show before Congress and when Condi Rice said the smoking gun would be "a mushroom cloud". Nor did she or Bill have access to the faulty intelligence that Bush/Cheney used to sell the war.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

She brought up Bill's administration and her experience in it in her floor speech:

And perhaps my decision is influenced by my eight years of experience on the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue in the White House watching my husband deal with serious challenges to our nation. I want this President, or any future President, to be in the strongest possible position to lead our country in the United Nations or in war. Secondly, I want to insure that Saddam Hussein makes no mistake about our national unity and for our support for the President's efforts to wage America's war against terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. And thirdly, I want the men and women in our Armed Forces to know that if they should be called upon to act against Iraq, our country will stand resolutely behind them.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

He wasn't President when Colin Powell did his WMD slide show before Congress and when Condi Rice said the smoking gun would be "a mushroom cloud". Nor did she or Bill have access to the faulty intelligence that Bush/Cheney used to sell the war.

Hillary didn't read the reports, she was briefed on them. And those reports were not undisputed. They were rejected in the UN and by some members of Congress. What happens when she gets similar reports when she is president?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

Settle down, Karl. The war was happening with or without her. No senator was going to be able to stand in the way of the GOP's unquenchable thirst for the blood of people who look like the people who did 9/11.

 

[Jayrod]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

Settle down, Karl. The war was happening with or without her. No senator was going to be able to stand in the way of the GOP's unquenchable thirst for the blood of people who look like the people who did 9/11.

Wow, so now the GOP was the only one out for blood?

 

[TobiasFunke]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

Settle down, Karl. The war was happening with or without her. No senator was going to be able to stand in the way of the GOP's unquenchable thirst for the blood of people who look like the people who did 9/11.

Wow, so now the GOP was the only one out for blood?

No, I didn't say that at all. You should pay more attention to detail. A good lesson, really. Maybe if war supporters had paid more attention to detail 12 years ago they wouldn't have let the GOP administration convince them to accept a deadly, costly and detrimental war because the brown people did 9/11.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

This was also in Hillary's Iraq War speech:

The first President Bush assembled a global coalition, including many Arab states, and threw Saddam out after forty-three days of bombing and a hundred hours of ground operations.

I think many of them thought Iraq War II would go the exact same way, from Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld to many of the Dems and GOP'ers who vote in favor. Aside from the obvious Gop'ers, Hillary was going to be running in 2008, Kerry was to be running in 2004, Joe Biden ran in 2008 and he may have been thinking of 2004 as well. They all wanted to be on the "right" side of that quick and glorious war that was surely coming.

 

[RCon]

Now we're playing the race card?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Now we're playing the race card?

If you've got a better way to draw a connection between 9/11 and Iraq, **** Cheney and I are eager to hear it.

 

[The Commish]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

 

[tommyboy]

she might be the first woman president to get assassinated by her husband

 

[TobiasFunke]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

 

[The Commish]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

I hadn't gotten to your posts before making this post, but I've noted your response....carry on. Odd that you think that's how politics works though...you should know better than that.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

I think if Rand Paul were to become the GOP nominee, he could use the argument. I agree that the rest of them are too hawkish to mention anything.

 

[dancingbones]

I really need to redo this. Could be done so much better.

http://youtu.be/8x_XzfmCjK8

Ripe for an update.

Get 'er done!

 

[Sammy3469]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

I think if Rand Paul were to become the GOP nominee, he could use the argument. I agree that the rest of them are too hawkish to mention anything.

Is that before or after he has a hissy fit?

 

[General Malaise]

she might be the first woman president to get assassinated by her husband

Does he have to? She gives him free rein, he had an affair under her own roof.

Isn't that technically our roof, Mr. Hand?

 

[Rove!]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

the Iraq war had the overwhelming support of the Democratic party, so they had better look for a new party

 

[Rove!]

I am registered Democrat and probably paying a lot more attention to the primary than you were. And the anti-Hillary sentiment was mostly due to her vote for the Iraqi war, which is no longer an issue (as proven by the polls among democrats, if you are paying attention).

Did she change her vote for the war? Why wouldn't it still be an issue?

All has been pretty much forgiven. I think most democrats felt that the vote was a political calculation, like Obama opposing gay marriage, rather than what she really believed. If Saddam was found to actually have had WMDs and she voted against taking action, it would probably have been the end of her political career IMO.

forgiven? couldn't she have just asked her husband if the case for war was being overstated? He was the President when most of the WMD evidence was gathered,had bombed Iraq and wrestled with Saddam over inspections for years....

making that kind of political calculation over life and death, war and peace? How can that be forgivable?

Settle down, Karl. The war was happening with or without her. No senator was going to be able to stand in the way of the GOP's unquenchable thirst for the blood of people who look like the people who did 9/11.

FBG Tobias Funke going into full-throttle nutter mode....

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

she might be the first woman president to get assassinated by her husband

Does he have to? She gives him free rein, he had an affair under her own roof.

Isn't that technically our roof, Mr. Hand?

That's funny, I was eating pizza when I wrote that...

 

[General Malaise]

she might be the first woman president to get assassinated by her husband

Does he have to? She gives him free rein, he had an affair under her own roof.

Isn't that technically our roof, Mr. Hand?

That's funny, I was eating pizza when I wrote that...

 

[timschochet]

Look she changed her mind. She's apologized for that vote. How many Republicans have? How many conservatives in this forum are willing to admit they were wrong about Iraq?

And when I listen to the GOP candidates right now, all of them with the exception of Rand Paul seem gung ho for a new war against Iran.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Look she changed her mind. She's apologized for that vote. How many Republicans have? How many conservatives in this forum are willing to admit they were wrong about Iraq?

And when I listen to the GOP candidates right now, all of them with the exception of Rand Paul seem gung ho for a new war against Iran.

Did she ever concede this point until this winter in Hard Choices, her book? - Voting for the war for political expediency and then admitting the mistake in voting for the war for political expediency is basically coming from the same place.

 

[tommyboy]

Senile rich grandma touring country in "Scooby Van" accidentally parks in handicapped only spot

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/16/impeach-hillarys-van-caught-parked-in-handicapped-spot-in-iowa/

 

[timschochet]

Look she changed her mind. She's apologized for that vote. How many Republicans have? How many conservatives in this forum are willing to admit they were wrong about Iraq?

And when I listen to the GOP candidates right now, all of them with the exception of Rand Paul seem gung ho for a new war against Iran.

Did she ever concede this point until this winter in Hard Choices, her book? - Voting for the war for political expediency and then admitting the mistake in voting for the war for political expediency is basically coming from the same place.

so what? Hey Saints, if the GOP candidate wants war with Iran, and she doesn't, who will you vote for?

 

[tommyboy]

Look she changed her mind. She's apologized for that vote. How many Republicans have? How many conservatives in this forum are willing to admit they were wrong about Iraq?

And when I listen to the GOP candidates right now, all of them with the exception of Rand Paul seem gung ho for a new war against Iran.

Not my man Camocho, he just gon nuke em

 

[The Commish]

Holy ####, some terrible fishing going on in here We're still 18 months out. Pace yourselves boys.

My fishing here actually has a point, which is this: bringing up the Iraq war is a non-starter for the GOP, which means it's a non-issue for Dems whose overriding interest is not letting the party responsible for fiascoes like the Iraq war return to the White House.

I think if Rand Paul were to become the GOP nominee, he could use the argument. I agree that the rest of them are too hawkish to mention anything.

If we limited the topics to only those that one side did/didn't do how many topics would we actually have left to discuss?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

You guys are focusing on the wrong burrito hot take. TIPGHAZI is all well and good, but the Wall Street Journal wrote up her choice of "liberal" Chipotle over "centrist" Taco Bell. That's amazing. I can't even make up something that stupid, and I'm fairly stupid. And from the Washington blog of the Wall Street Journal, of all places.

It's true. Chipotle is for liberals.