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My league currently has a hybrid system of blind bids and FCFS. The blind bids works great, but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually. This year we have encountered many complaints about the system. I'm not too familiar with the limitations of CBS, but we would like to move to system that removes any commish duties, yet one that has a strategy involved.

Ideas? Is blind bids the only way to go with CBS?

 
My league currently has a hybrid system of blind bids and FCFS. The blind bids works great, but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually. This year we have encountered many complaints about the system. I'm not too familiar with the limitations of CBS, but we would like to move to system that removes any commish duties, yet one that has a strategy involved. Ideas? Is blind bids the only way to go with CBS?
I didn't know you could do blind bids with CBS although I've never seen the commish controls for waivers. They don't show them to you until you pay. Or after your draft I'm not sure.We've always used worst to first.
 
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I'm commish for CBS league and have been lobbying them to encorporate a hybrid system (like ANTSPORTS) into the site. As it stands right now I think you can manually go in after the first blind bid process runs, turn it off, and set it for FCFS until Sunday AM. Then turn it back on again once the games have started - I haven't tried this - but it looks to be set up that way.

 
Our league on CBS uses Worse to First. Owners put in who they want to drop and pick up. The Commish does the worse to first transactions manually, then switches to FCFS until just before kickoff.

 
We use blind-bid waivers over the weekend and FCFS during the week. Our commish has to go in and switch it over manually once waivers run Wednesday morning to be FCFS. After games start he switches it back to waivers.

It is a huge pain. I don't see why CBS doesn't have the combo platter but they don't. We would also like to avoid any commish involvement but it isn't offered.

 
My main league uses the FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) option with commish approval. Even though there is not an option to do this more than once a week, I manually change it to make it run 2 times a week.

Every wed night the process runs and I manually process the bids. More on that later. Then after processing, I go back into the league setup and change the waiver day to saturday night. This locks out all FCFS in the league (the way we want it) and gives everyone 2 chances to pickup players except for weeks with thursday games we only run it once on wed night.

The reason I do manual processing of the bids - it is the only fair way to do it. The automatic process takes the player order as determined by the highest team in the tiebreak order, so only this 1 team is aware of the order in which the bids will be processed and can prioritize multiple adds with the same drop player. Every other team is screwed because the order they set does not apply.

So for every wed and sat waivers, each owner emails me their order of priority for the players they are trying to pickup and I manually go through it. It's pretty easy and most weeks there are only 1 or 2 teams picking up a player.

I don't understand when you say "but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually". I am under the impression that FCFS means "first come first serve" and does not involve the commish at all.

 
I don't understand when you say "but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually". I am under the impression that FCFS means "first come first serve" and does not involve the commish at all.
It's because the Commish has to perform the transaction for the team because it's set up on CBS to do FAAB. It's interesting to hear others change their process with CBS during the week, I don't think that we have tried that yet.
 
I am the commish and we use the waiver system through CBS. It locks the players on the weekend, so you don't have to worry about transactions, just watch the games. We have it set at 1 day turnaround but I think it should be 2 days, league voted for 1. After the original waiver process runs which is Tuesday Night or Wednesday Early Morning, then all players are FCFS, except for the players dropped in the waiver claims, they are put back into the 2nd waiver process for the week. Oh yeah, the waiver process goes from worst to first.

The system is fair and it doesn't require any input from the commish, also it is totally blind to the commish. When the commish has to process everything manually they see all of the claims and they know who everyone wants/wanted. Keeping it totally blind is the only way to run it.

 
For all the $ that CBS costs they should have an option to automatically switch to FCFS from blind bidding on whatever day you want....

RTSports does and works great.

 
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My main league uses the FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) option with commish approval. Even though there is not an option to do this more than once a week, I manually change it to make it run 2 times a week.

Every wed night the process runs and I manually process the bids. More on that later. Then after processing, I go back into the league setup and change the waiver day to saturday night. This locks out all FCFS in the league (the way we want it) and gives everyone 2 chances to pickup players except for weeks with thursday games we only run it once on wed night.

The reason I do manual processing of the bids - it is the only fair way to do it. The automatic process takes the player order as determined by the highest team in the tiebreak order, so only this 1 team is aware of the order in which the bids will be processed and can prioritize multiple adds with the same drop player. Every other team is screwed because the order they set does not apply.

So for every wed and sat waivers, each owner emails me their order of priority for the players they are trying to pickup and I manually go through it. It's pretty easy and most weeks there are only 1 or 2 teams picking up a player.

I don't understand when you say "but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually". I am under the impression that FCFS means "first come first serve" and does not involve the commish at all.
I'm not sure what you're saying here.Using the FAAB process, the site processes from highest bid to lowest bid every time waivers runs. The tiebreak only comes in when two or more teams have the same bid on a particular player, and it's the high bid. Not sure how being first in the tiebreak order is a strategic advantage.

Go back and look at a transaction log from a waiver period that was processed automatically by the system, and I'll bet you they're ordered on bid amounts. Ours are, anyway.

 
My main league uses the FAAB (free agent acquisition budget) option with commish approval. Even though there is not an option to do this more than once a week, I manually change it to make it run 2 times a week.

Every wed night the process runs and I manually process the bids. More on that later. Then after processing, I go back into the league setup and change the waiver day to saturday night. This locks out all FCFS in the league (the way we want it) and gives everyone 2 chances to pickup players except for weeks with thursday games we only run it once on wed night.

The reason I do manual processing of the bids - it is the only fair way to do it. The automatic process takes the player order as determined by the highest team in the tiebreak order, so only this 1 team is aware of the order in which the bids will be processed and can prioritize multiple adds with the same drop player. Every other team is screwed because the order they set does not apply.

So for every wed and sat waivers, each owner emails me their order of priority for the players they are trying to pickup and I manually go through it. It's pretty easy and most weeks there are only 1 or 2 teams picking up a player.

I don't understand when you say "but the FCFS puts the commish in a tough spot since those transactions have to be processed manually". I am under the impression that FCFS means "first come first serve" and does not involve the commish at all.
I'm not sure what you're saying here.Using the FAAB process, the site processes from highest bid to lowest bid every time waivers runs. The tiebreak only comes in when two or more teams have the same bid on a particular player, and it's the high bid. Not sure how being first in the tiebreak order is a strategic advantage.

Go back and look at a transaction log from a waiver period that was processed automatically by the system, and I'll bet you they're ordered on bid amounts. Ours are, anyway.
The reason my league uses the manual processing is this example from week 1, 2006:Team A

Cotchery, $14 drop player B

Colston, $22 drop player B

Team B

Colston, $20 drop player C

Cotchery, $12 drop player C

The "system" decided that Colston was first so Team A won Colston instead of Cotchery. Team A wanted Cotchery above Colston but didn't get him. In our manual processing, Team A wins Cotchery, and Team B gets Colston because Team A can't complete the add/drop even though they won the bid.

 

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