Forward progress calls changing? (1 Viewer)

[Dragon1952]

I noticed in a couple of Week 5 games that the whistle was blown awfully quick for forward progress being stopped. One call in the KC/Dal game was laughable. I think it's obvious that the 2 'muggings' in the SD/Pit and GB/Min games were discussed amongst the officiating crews and it was decided that they needed to blow the whistle sooner. Talk about going from one extreme to the other though. In the SD/Pit and GB/Min games, the runner was held up for close to 4 or 5 seconds while the ball was being yanked at by other players. In that KC/Dal game, it was like 1 second and the whistle was blown. That play should have resulted in a fumble and didn't.

 

[joetrow]

I noticed in a couple of Week 5 games that the whistle was blown awfully quick for forward progress being stopped. One call in the KC/Dal game was laughable. I think it's obvious that the 2 'muggings' in the SD/Pit and GB/Min games were discussed amongst the officiating crews and it was decided that they needed to blow the whistle sooner. Talk about going from one extreme to the other though. In the SD/Pit and GB/Min games, the runner was held up for close to 4 or 5 seconds while the ball was being yanked at by other players. In that KC/Dal game, it was like 1 second and the whistle was blown. That play should have resulted in a fumble and didn't.

I thought AP sould have been ruled down for stop of forward progress, along with Sproles. I remeber seeing the play in the KC/DAL game, forget who it was, but that was a horrible call, he had just gotten hit.

 

[Ahmad Rashad]

I think more important than the time is whether the runner is still moving forward. As a Viking fan, I didn't like the fumble call on AD, but he was still moving forward, or very close to doing so, so I could see why the whistle wasn't blown. It's tough on him, as even with a few guys on him, he can still push the pile forward, or at least has more of a chance to continue moving forward than most other backs.

I think in the KC/Dal game, the runner was being pushed backward immediately, so had stopped forward progress. It's not how long someone is held up, but whether he's in the process of moving forward or moving backward. If the runner's moving backward, it doesn't need to be even a half second before the forward progress is stopped.

 

[Dragon1952]

I think more important than the time is whether the runner is still moving forward. As a Viking fan, I didn't like the fumble call on AD, but he was still moving forward, or very close to doing so, so I could see why the whistle wasn't blown. It's tough on him, as even with a few guys on him, he can still push the pile forward, or at least has more of a chance to continue moving forward than most other backs.I think in the KC/Dal game, the runner was being pushed backward immediately, so had stopped forward progress. It's not how long someone is held up, but whether he's in the process of moving forward or moving backward. If the runner's moving backward, it doesn't need to be even a half second before the forward progress is stopped.

Well I've seen lot's of runners get pushed back that break loose. I think it also depends on how many players have you wrapped up. I don't think AP was really moving forward...they were pushing him sideways, and there were like 5 guys surrounding him. In the KC game, the receiver just got popped by one guy and knocked back a 1/2 yard before fumbling. I mean, if you compare both plays, and that one was ruled forward progress stopped and the other wasn't, it appears pretty ludicrous. Whatever, they need to come up with something more consistent.