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Fox News Signs Caitlyn Jenner (1 Viewer)

What does a person have to do to be qualified as a political commentator?


Ideally, be knowledgeable about politics and have a viewpoint worth sharing - neither of which I've seen from Caitlyn Jenner to date. Perhaps it will work out and down the road people will be raving what a savvy move FOX made by hiring her...but I doubt it. 

 
Nothing in actuality. We're all political commentators in this forum. For someone to reach the top of the profession, however, the aspirant should have extensive experience in the field or some years of study and commentary subject to review and criticism.

I'm not sure what kind of credentials Caitlyn Jenner has revealed to us. 


If guys like Don Lemon and Brian Stetler and Rachel Maddow have jobs in the industry, I'm guessing you really don't need that much.

 
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I find it interesting that you would see if from the "libs heads xplode!" angle, instead of seeing it from the "conservatives finally accept what they previously feared" angle.
I just read about two dozen Caitlyn Jenner articles on Breitbart going all the way back to 2017.  Almost all of them are affirmatively positive.  I didn’t see one negative.  

 
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Seems some of y'all are overthinking this one. Caitlyn has been an increasingly vocal Republican for years now and obviously is very experienced in the media. She makes a ton of sense to hire if Fox is looking for someone transgender, but also conservative.

And, while I don't speak for trans people, I think it is a positive that Fox viewers get to see a trans woman in an agreeable light.

 
Ideally, be knowledgeable about politics and have a viewpoint worth sharing - neither of which I've seen from Caitlyn Jenner to date. Perhaps it will work out and down the road people will be raving what a savvy move FOX made by hiring her...but I doubt it. 
c'mon, support the LGBTQ.   

 
Nothing in actuality. We're all political commentators in this forum. For someone to reach the top of the profession, however, the aspirant should have extensive experience in the field or some years of study and commentary subject to review and criticism.

I'm not sure what kind of credentials Caitlyn Jenner has revealed to us. 
I could be wrong but I'm guessing she was hired to give her opinion on a variety of topics. I don't think you need extensive experience in the field or years of study and commentary to have an opinion. And as far as giving her opinion on LGBT+ topics, she's more qualified than the majority of the talking heads on the cable news shows, and certainly more qualified than the majority of posters in this forum.  

 
c'mon, support the LGBTQ.   


Right?

I don't know if you're aware of this, but LGBTQ members don't have any protections or rights here in the US.  I'm trying to think of which poster I heard this from, but he insists it's true.

That's why it's important to support them so we can finally get them some protections.

 
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Right?

I don't know if you're aware of this, but LGBTQ members don't have any protections or rights here in the US.  I'm trying to think of which poster I heard this from, but he insists it's true.

That's why it's important to support them so we can finally get them some protections.


That is a gross exaggeration and was never stated by anyone, including me (and I wouldn't have said that, as a Californian and knowing the laws against LGBT+ discrimination in this state). If you can find a post that states that exactly, please post it. 

 
I'd like to see Squis come out and support Caitlyn.   with the same energy as he supports Colin.
Who is Colin?

Nevermind, got it now. Thought there was some famous trans person named Colin out there I hadn't heard of :lmao:

 
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why wouldn't you support the LBGQT?


That is like saying if Larry Elder is made a FOX Commentator why wouldn't I support him if I am against discrimination against black folks (which Elder has stated for years, doesn't exist against African Americans in this country). 

 
That is like saying if Larry Elder is made a FOX Commentator why wouldn't I support him if I am against discrimination against black folks (which Elder has stated for years, doesn't exist against African Americans in this country). 
to be honest, i did have to look up who that was.  the black face of white supremacy.      is caitlyn in that category on trans rights?

 
to be honest, i did have to look up who that was.  the black face of white supremacy.      is caitlyn in that category on trans rights?


No, but she is not one that I, IMHO, or most liberals/progressives would want to be the spokesperson on any platform for trans rights. 

 
why not?   


Google how most LGBT+ people and liberals/progressives feel about her...it is not positive, which is why she polled less than 1% of the vote when she ran for Governor in probably the most liberal/progressive state in the union. 

 
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Google how most LGBT+ people and liberals/progressives feel about her...it is not positive, which is why she polled less than 1% of the vote when she ran for Governor in probably the most liberal/progressive state in the union. 
I just googled how most conservative LGBTQ+ people view Caitlin Jenner,   she is darn near 100%

 
A trans person was just hired for an on camera position by freaking FoxNews. For folks who support societal acceptance of trans individuals, it’s hard not to see this as a total win. You may not believe she’s the ideal spokesperson for trans issues, but I think we need to be focusing on the bigger picture. 

 
No one would be more surprised than I am. Check out all my posts in the LGBT+ thread that I started.  :coffee:


And yet here you are, espousing bigoted anti-trans views towards one of the most prominent trans persons in the world. 

YOUR movement demands fealty, obedience and loyalty NOW and IMMEDIATELY - your past is irrelevant. 

 
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A trans person was just hired for an on camera position by freaking FoxNews. For folks who support societal acceptance of trans individuals, it’s hard not to see this as a total win. You may not believe she’s the ideal spokesperson for trans issues, but I think we need to be focusing on the bigger picture. 
Great post Gigantus Bottomus.  This should be celebrated,  As a Republican and a big supporter of LGBTQIA issues I’m extremely encouraged by this.  This is a victory, and it should be celebrated.

 
I’m glad she’ll get an audience and that people will get to practice using she/her pronouns.


No one will be using that.  :shrug:

We folks on the right follow the science - and a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl.  You can't ever change that.  Ever.
From the article in the OP:

Fox News Media CEO Suzanne Scott said in a statement: “Caitlyn’s story is an inspiration to us all. She is a trailblazer in the LGBTQ+ community and her illustrious career spans a variety of fields that will be a tremendous asset for our audience.”

 
A trans person was just hired for an on camera position by freaking FoxNews. For folks who support societal acceptance of trans individuals, it’s hard not to see this as a total win. You may not believe she’s the ideal spokesperson for trans issues, but I think we need to be focusing on the bigger picture. 


I don't see it as a total win and I feel like I'm focusing on the bigger picture.  

We all make fun of the guys with racist views who claim they're not racist because "I have a black friend and he agrees with me."

My fear is that Caitlyn Jenner will now be every conservative's trans friend that agrees with the views they already have.  I'm not sure how that results in progress.  

 
I don't see it as a total win and I feel like I'm focusing on the bigger picture.  

We all make fun of the guys with racist views who claim they're not racist because "I have a black friend and he agrees with me."

My fear is that Caitlyn Jenner will now be every conservative's trans friend that agrees with the views they already have.  I'm not sure how that results in progress.  


And this is why we can't have nice things.  People like you who think that just because people disagree with you they are bigots.  

You don't want discussion, you want immediate obedience and acceptance of every demand - no matter how absurd or ridiculous - met without condition.

 
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Google how most LGBT+ people and liberals/progressives feel about her...it is not positive, which is why she polled less than 1% of the vote when she ran for Governor in probably the most liberal/progressive state in the union. 
Liberals/progressives don't like her? I guess the mystery of how she got a gig with Fox is solved.

 
I don't see it as a total win and I feel like I'm focusing on the bigger picture.  

We all make fun of the guys with racist views who claim they're not racist because "I have a black friend and he agrees with me."

My fear is that Caitlyn Jenner will now be every conservative's trans friend that agrees with the views they already have.  I'm not sure how that results in progress.  
Why would conservatives ever accept trans people if they're all required to recite the same catechisms?  That seems very culty and reinforces most of my criticisms of the trans rights movement (that it's a cult).

 
I wonder if folks also think that gay guys have to walk around in assless chaps all the time or they're not really the right kind of gay.  Because that would be news to a lot of gay right-wingers.

 
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And this is why we can't have nice things.

People like you who think that just because people disagree with you they are bigots.   You're part of the new Bolsheviks.  Congrats.
Bigot= "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group".  

I'm glad that you're calling this person a far left revolutionary isn't bigoted.  

And this is why we can't have nice things.

 
Why would conservatives ever accept trans people if they're all required to recite the same catechisms?  That seems very culty and reinforces most of my criticisms of the trans rights movement (that it's a cult).


Seems like conservatives should already accept trans people just because they're people.  What exactly do you mean by "accepting" trans people?

 
Literally the first actual transgender person who existed in my personal universe was Diedre McCloskey and that was over 20 years ago.  She's a right-winger.  Sorry guys, but they're not all in the cult.

 
Bigot= "a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group".  

I'm glad that you're calling this person a far left revolutionary isn't bigoted.  

And this is why we can't have nice things.


They're all acting the same way - this new wokeism is certainly an offshoot of the same behavior and mannerisms the Russians of the early 20th centrury went thru.  The only thing missing- at this point - is the outright murder for those that don't agree.  But we've certainly seen the violence amped up over the years against those who "oppose" the cult of wokeism.

 
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Seems like conservatives should already accept trans people just because they're people.  What exactly do you mean by "accepting" trans people?


We're still waiting for you to accept people who disagree with you.  That should be your first step.

I love how you "tolerant" types really are the most insufferable and intolerant people around.

 
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I don't see it as a total win and I feel like I'm focusing on the bigger picture.  

We all make fun of the guys with racist views who claim they're not racist because "I have a black friend and he agrees with me."

My fear is that Caitlyn Jenner will now be every conservative's trans friend that agrees with the views they already have.  I'm not sure how that results in progress.  
One is better than zero, and is a necessary step to get to two, three and four.  For folks like me who want to see societal acceptance of trans people, exposure and familiarity to segments of society that are currently prone to be less accepting of them is key.  Additionally, highlighting that trans people have diversity of thought is a plus, even if you happen to disagree with a particular person’s flavor of politics. 

 

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