Franchise and Transition Tags (1 Viewer)

[Jeff Pasquino]

From the Chicago Sun Times, here are the franchise and transition tag numbers by position for this year:



Franchise Tag Numbers

QB - $10.7 million

RB - $6.5 million

WR - $7.8 million

TE - $4.5 million

P/K - $2.5 million

OL - $7.5 million

DE - $8.9 million

DT - $6.4 million

LB - $8.1 million

S - $4.4 million

CB - $9.5 million



Transition Tag Numbers

QB - $9.6 million

RB - $5.7 million

WR - $6.9 million

TE - $3.7 million

P/K - $2.2 million

OL - $6.9 million

DE - $7.7 million

DT - $5.6 million

LB - $7.3 million

S - $3.8 million

CB - $7.7 million

also remember that NFL salaries are now available through the links on Page 1 at Footballguys.com on the Dynasty Links tab.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Why are there still Transitional tags? We've had free agency for like 12 years now - how long does it take to complete the transition?

 

[saintfool]

wow. the seahawks have some serious decisions to make with trufant and hackett....

 

[Walter Slovotsky]

Why are there still Transitional tags? We've had free agency for like 12 years now - how long does it take to complete the transition?

Well, in reality the transitional tag is dead. Completely useless, now that teams are allowed to put team specific poison pills into contracts that make it impossible for the player's original team to match.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Alan Faneca for one year at $7.5M doesn't sound all bad. I doubt it will happen, but I hope it does.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Why are there still Transitional tags? We've had free agency for like 12 years now - how long does it take to complete the transition?

Well, in reality the transitional tag is dead. Completely useless, now that teams are allowed to put team specific poison pills into contracts that make it impossible for the player's original team to match.

IIRC there was talk at one point of the Browns transitional tagging Derek Anderson to get two firsts instead of tending the top offer (1st/3rd compensation).

 

[Borat]

I'm a little surprised that all offensive linemen are grouped together.

 

[dgreen]

Alan Faneca for one year at $7.5M doesn't sound all bad. I doubt it will happen, but I hope it does.

Would he play for them? I thought he REALLY wanted out.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Alan Faneca for one year at $7.5M doesn't sound all bad. I doubt it will happen, but I hope it does.

Would he play for them? I thought he REALLY wanted out.

Not sure if he'd do it or not, but I don't think Faneca REALLY wanted out(at least not before the media p#$$%ng match he tried to have with ownership last TC). I think he REALLY wants money and doesn't believe the Steelers will give it to him.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm a little surprised that all offensive linemen are grouped together.

Especially with DT/DE split out. I think that affected Cory Redding last year in Detroit IIRC - he wanted to be listed as a DE but was tagged as a DT, costing him significant $$.I'd expect this to be a negotiating term in the next CBA, if they keep this same structure.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've only paid attention to these situations tangentially...what happens when you tag someone, and then they sit out til week 10?

Does that 10 weeks get prorated? how about the cap hit?

 

[FUBAR]

From the Chicago Sun Times, here are the franchise and transition tag numbers by position for this year:



Franchise Tag Numbers

QB - $10.7 million

RB - $6.5 million

WR - $7.8 million

TE - $4.5 million

P/K - $2.5 million

OL - $7.5 million

DE - $8.9 million

DT - $6.4 million

LB - $8.1 million

S - $4.4 million

CB - $9.5 million

I find it interesting, even if obvious, that the salaries pretty directly correlate to the values I'd place on the position. EXCEPT that DTs appear greatly undervalued. Worth less than RB? 2.5M less than DE? 1.7M less than LB?

 

[LILB811]

Word is that the Ravens have tagged Terrell Suggs at $8.9 million and the Raiders are highly likely to tag Nnamdi Asomugha at $9.5 million per Adam Schefter.

 

[Walter Slovotsky]

Why are there still Transitional tags? We've had free agency for like 12 years now - how long does it take to complete the transition?

Well, in reality the transitional tag is dead. Completely useless, now that teams are allowed to put team specific poison pills into contracts that make it impossible for the player's original team to match.

IIRC there was talk at one point of the Browns transitional tagging Derek Anderson to get two firsts instead of tending the top offer (1st/3rd compensation).

That would be the non-exclusive franchise tag. You get no compensation for a transition tag player (excluding the usual compensatory selection, if you qualify). All you get with the transition tag is the opportunity to match. Which is why teams now put team specific poison pills in contracts offered to transition tagged players (see Steve Hutchinson and Nate Burleson). So in effect, the transition tag is dead for now.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

I've only paid attention to these situations tangentially...what happens when you tag someone, and then they sit out til week 10?Does that 10 weeks get prorated? how about the cap hit?

anyone?

 

[jeter23]

Smith staying with Eagles

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15068

The Eagles' offseason to-do list got a little bit shorter on Thursday when they placed the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on tight end L.J. Smith.

Under the terms of the "non-exclusive" franchise tag designation, Smith has been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2007. Smith can sign the one-year deal, continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Eagles or listen to offers from other teams when free agency begins Feb. 29. If Smith signs an offer sheet from another team, the Eagles can either match that offer or allow Smith to join the new team and receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Smith staying with Eagles

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15068

The Eagles' offseason to-do list got a little bit shorter on Thursday when they placed the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on tight end L.J. Smith.

Under the terms of the "non-exclusive" franchise tag designation, Smith has been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2007. Smith can sign the one-year deal, continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Eagles or listen to offers from other teams when free agency begins Feb. 29. If Smith signs an offer sheet from another team, the Eagles can either match that offer or allow Smith to join the new team and receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

Yep, not surprised at all. I bet he signs for << franchise numbers, something like $2.5M plus incentives.

 

[mad sweeney]

Smith staying with Eagles

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15068

The Eagles' offseason to-do list got a little bit shorter on Thursday when they placed the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on tight end L.J. Smith.

Under the terms of the "non-exclusive" franchise tag designation, Smith has been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2007. Smith can sign the one-year deal, continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Eagles or listen to offers from other teams when free agency begins Feb. 29. If Smith signs an offer sheet from another team, the Eagles can either match that offer or allow Smith to join the new team and receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

Is the "non exclusive" part new since the Great Guard Theft of 06? Reason I ask is that the Seahawks' FO said they used the trans tag on Hutch because they were at an impasse and wanted him to be able to negotiate with other teams essentially to help them in their own negotiations, since a regular franchise tag prohibits other teams from talking to the player. They would've matched the Vikes' offer money wise, so if this were available then seems like that would've been used. "Non exclusive" seems like the transition tag without worrying about the poison pills.

 

[ClownDogs]

Smith staying with Eagles

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15068

The Eagles' offseason to-do list got a little bit shorter on Thursday when they placed the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on tight end L.J. Smith.

Under the terms of the "non-exclusive" franchise tag designation, Smith has been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2007. Smith can sign the one-year deal, continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Eagles or listen to offers from other teams when free agency begins Feb. 29. If Smith signs an offer sheet from another team, the Eagles can either match that offer or allow Smith to join the new team and receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

And that is why the Eagles suck. Horrible, HORRIBLE decision.

 

[David Yudkin]

I've only paid attention to these situations tangentially...what happens when you tag someone, and then they sit out til week 10?Does that 10 weeks get prorated? how about the cap hit?

anyone?

A player would get paid 1/16 of his annual salary for each game he makes himself available to play for. So if he opts to skip 10 games, he would get paid for 6.If he skipped 10 games and came back and his team benched him (or made him inactive every week), he would still get paid for 6 games.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Smith staying with Eagles

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15068

The Eagles' offseason to-do list got a little bit shorter on Thursday when they placed the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on tight end L.J. Smith.

Under the terms of the "non-exclusive" franchise tag designation, Smith has been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2007. Smith can sign the one-year deal, continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Eagles or listen to offers from other teams when free agency begins Feb. 29. If Smith signs an offer sheet from another team, the Eagles can either match that offer or allow Smith to join the new team and receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

And that is why the Eagles suck. Horrible, HORRIBLE decision.

Why?The Eagles can keep their best TE option for 2008 - arguably the end of a possible Championship window - for a reasonable cap number.

Should another team want to grab him, they get compensated if they let him go or can match it if they like.

Also they have the option to negotiate a better deal for >1 year.

I don't see the issue - unless you don't believe that giving him the average of the Top 5 contracts (in 2007, not 2008).

I also believe they have the right to remove the tag from Smith. I don't believe they can change it to "exclusive", which would have been a worse move. Then he'd be paid the average of the Top 5 TEs in 2008 salaries.

If the Eagles decided to use the "exclusive" franchise tag, Smith would have been offered a one-year tender in the amount of the average of the five highest-paid tight ends in the NFL in 2008 instead of 2007. Smith also would not have the abililty to sign a contract with another team.