SeniorVBDStudent
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See title.
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Fred Taylor signs with Patriots (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Link/source?
obxlegends
Footballguy
From Profootballtalk.com
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
NFL Network televised broadcast at 8am eastern. The "NFL Now" segment at the top of the hour. 3rd player mentioned after Haynesworth and DHall. The showed some of Fred's game footage as Schefter was relaying that the deal was done last night.Sorry, no hard links yet.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Look for the Pats to start moving some RBs soon.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Adam Schefter, NewsTaylor to sign with New England
Posted: Adam Schefter, News | Adam Schefter | Tags: Fred Taylor, New England Patriots
Fred Taylor’s run into the sunset took him straight to New England.
After visiting Buffalo and New England this week, Taylor decided to sign with the Patriots.
The agreement has been reached, Taylor is headed back to New England. After playing his first 11 NFL seasons with Jacksonville, he now is expected to finish his career as a Patriot.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm hearing this is pretty much a done deal as well. Taylor also visited Buffalo, but Taylor is one of those older guys that wants his chance at a ring. Can't blame him for choosing the Patriots over the Bills.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I would guess this spells the end of the Lamont Jordan era in NE (he's a free agent).
gianmarco
Footballguy
Did it ever really start?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I wasn't really being serious that their was an "era," but now I doubt they bring Jordan back.
twitch
Footballguy
Id buy that as well. Theyve only got so much room. It may just mean the end of one of the other backs there as well. And after what they did to Chad Jackson prior to last season, and considering he was a high 2nd rounder the same year Maroney was a 1st, I wouldnt be completely shocked if they cut loose Maroney prior to the season if he isnt stepping up. Im not pulling for it, but definitely a very real possibility. What are your thoughts on that possiblity, DY? Am I off on that as a slim possibility from a contract/common sense point of view?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Cary to predict Fred's # of carries David (or anyone else)?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
From what I have heard Maroney is unlikely to be cut. I suppose anything is possible in a trade (but unlikely). Maroney is cheap to retain (a salary of only $600K and a total cap hit of $1.7M. If healthier (can't say healthy with Maroney), they won't get someone else for $600K.As for Taylor, he becomes a piece of the Pats RBBC. Like in recent seasons, I don't see any one guy being a featured back or having a ton of fantasy value but you could probably roster Maroney/Morris/Taylor/Faulk as a spare part with at least some chance of that guy getting at least some production.I will defer to later in the preseason to make any projections or predictions until we see who ends up on the roster.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I wonder who will have a bigger impact in Boston . . . Marbury or Taylor.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Mrs. Brady
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Florence Henderson ?
twitch
Footballguy
Good perspective. I like Maroney personally, as Ive shown in previous threads, but definitely have grown frustrated with his almost unfortunate circumstances and production. But as youve pointed out from the bottom line, they dont gain much by letting him go. Hopefully he stays healthy obviously and contributes. I just cant help but wonder though at this point with Taylor on board if the team will have any view of Taylor as the lead guy or if that's even a necessary consideration. Probably not. Im expect the work put in will determine that.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Uh... sure. Except I don't remember Flo looking like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFmhsqm8TaI...=1&index=26
David Yudkin
Footballguy
From a dollars and cents perspective, the Pats got a lot of value from their stable of RBs last year in utilizing more of a 70s team RB model.
1988 rushing yards, 743 receiving yards, 22 total TD
Combined, all their RBs last year were paid $5.5 million. I suspect that level of cost and production would be near the top of the league, surpassed only by teams with a surprise RB getting paid very low dollars (like the Texans for example).
1988 rushing yards, 743 receiving yards, 22 total TD
Combined, all their RBs last year were paid $5.5 million. I suspect that level of cost and production would be near the top of the league, surpassed only by teams with a surprise RB getting paid very low dollars (like the Texans for example).
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I'd love to see him in Green Bay. He's better than Wynn at the very least.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Seen a number of mocks with the Pats going RB with their first round pick. Zero chance of that happening.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I would have said there was a zero percent chance even before this, but I suppose it added a little spice to those mocks.
Mike
Footballguy
Good clip
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Carver
Footballguy
This could spell the end of Sammy Morris (IMO). He's injury prone, around the same age as Taylor (32 when the season kicks off), and would clear some cap space. Not much... but every bit counts until they move MC.
There really isnt much Morris brings to the table that cant be replaced with a stable of Maroney/Taylor/Faulk/BGJE/Evans (who will re-sign eventually).
There really isnt much Morris brings to the table that cant be replaced with a stable of Maroney/Taylor/Faulk/BGJE/Evans (who will re-sign eventually).
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
and what an era it was. Do you think they retire his jersey?
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Good for Freddy T. I'll miss him, but will pull for him to play well.
He deserves his chance at a ring and the Patriots offer a great chance for that.
He deserves his chance at a ring and the Patriots offer a great chance for that.
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Ned
Footballguy
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Classy Jacksonville fans.
Fred is the logical replacement for my homer team jersey, as I expect Seymour may be leaving....and I live in Jacksonville.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I doubt it. I think Belichick likes Morris the most out of all the backs on the roster and he's still not that expensive. He's due $900,000 in salary this year. Technically they would save $1 million against the cap if they released him, but as I said $900,000 is in salary so they are not really saving much by getting rid of him. He's been their most productive back the past two years.Morris had a 4.5 ypc in NE with a fair amount of short yardage work. He's averaged nearly 70 yards per game in yards from scrimmage, which is pretty solid given that he's only gotten the ball an average of 13 or so times a game.IMO, Pats still go RBBC with a lot of interchangable and cheap parts to get things done. They''' need that money to spend to shore up the defense and extend key guys on both lines.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Belichick likes Morris because he doesn't dance around behind the line, he hits the hole hard. Which brings me to this signing, why the hell did they just sign an over the hill RB that is notorious for dancing around behind the line? I don't get this signing at all. I'd think a Buckhalter signing would have made more sense to the Pats.WTH do I know though?
Adebisi
Footballguy
Awesome signing; I think everyone pretty much assumed this was going to happen as soon as Taylor was cut loose by Jacksonville.
Would like to see him split carries with Sammy Morris. It would be awesome if we could get a 3rd round pick for Maroney, but I'd be kind of surprised if we could.
Would like to see him split carries with Sammy Morris. It would be awesome if we could get a 3rd round pick for Maroney, but I'd be kind of surprised if we could.
trollmonger
Footballguy
As a Maroney owner, I like this signing.
I expected them to bring someone else in. I was worried it would be LJ or someone else that would clearly be the starter. Taylor may start but it's still clearly RBBC and Taylor isn't going to be around more than a year. Two at most.
Not that I'm expecting big things from Maroney but it keeps him as a serviceable emergency backup if I lost a couple of RBs to injury.
From a non-fantasy perspective, great signing for NE. At 33 yo, there can't be much left in the tank but is a perfect fit for the RBBC in NE. Maybe he can show Maroney how to stay healthy after having injury problems early in a career.
I expected them to bring someone else in. I was worried it would be LJ or someone else that would clearly be the starter. Taylor may start but it's still clearly RBBC and Taylor isn't going to be around more than a year. Two at most.
Not that I'm expecting big things from Maroney but it keeps him as a serviceable emergency backup if I lost a couple of RBs to injury.
From a non-fantasy perspective, great signing for NE. At 33 yo, there can't be much left in the tank but is a perfect fit for the RBBC in NE. Maybe he can show Maroney how to stay healthy after having injury problems early in a career.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I like the signing. But calling it 'awesome' or 'great' I think overstates the value of a formerly elite player on the wrong side of 30. Don't get me wrong, for the way the Patriots utilize a committee at the position, I think Taylor is a smart addition. I just don't know that I would characterize this with such ebullience considering he's being brought in [and compensated] as a role player.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
For those suggesting that a RBs legs fall off at age 30, Taylor has had a 4.9 ypc from age 30 on. While I can only stand on historical precident that it's unlikely he will keep that up much longer, he up until now doesn't appear to have "lost it" yet.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
To follow up on Taylor's 30 and up performance, he's had the 3rd highest ypc of players with at least 500 carries from ag 30 on (after Tiki Barber and James Brooks).
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
How did he do in 2008?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
7% less per carry than MJD did.
mmmWaffles
Footballguy
I'm happy for Taylor. I like the guy. Hopefully, everything works out for him. 
tombonneau
Footballguy
That's not true; Maroney has the break-away speed that the other two lack. Ironically, it's also what has thus far hindered his development, as he will often hesitate in attempt to find a hole for a big gain vs. pick up the 3-4 yards that are there.There were big holes last year that Morris (and any RB) ran through for 15-20 yards that Maroney with his speed easily could have taken to the house.A lot of people forget that end of 2007 Maroney was a very effective RB in every game that didn't involve the NYG.As I think DY pointed out, the FT signing is another move toward the Pats just producing a cost-efficient ground game. Very smart business.And I'm with Wood, I'm not thrilled with the signing, but it's a smart move that should ensure the team will yet again have an effective & efficient ground game in 2009.From a FF perspective, it's an obvious nightmare.shadyridr said:
Jason Wood
Zoo York
In a game of inches, that's significant.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Nice. This was his 2008, and he started 13 games. Taylor - 2008 143 att, 556 yds, 3.9 ypc, 1 td, 22 targets, 16 ctch, 98 yds, 6.1 ypc, 0 tdThis kind of production is what NE can look forward to. He's not a great runner anymore, was never a very good receiver, isn't known for his blocking, and has not been a very good RB near the endzone for years.I understand he's a cheap addition, but what does he add to NE other than depth?
