Friend asked me to print my projections to use... (1 Viewer)

[Unlucky]

Best friend. We've partnered on a couple FFOC teams. He's led this league in scoring the past 3 seasons. Our live, in person, draft is Wednesday. He asked me to print my projections for him since he won't have a computer for this draft. I told him OK. ####.

It's not like he doesn't know which guys I'm high on, but he'll have my exact board in front of him for each of his picks. Over/Under on picks he snipes me on: 5

He's my boy. Best Friend. I can't tell him to piss off.

I want to dominate this league as it's got the most bragging rights of any of my leagues. But I'm giving away my board. [/end drunken rant]

 

[PitbullTD]

best friend. Good homie. Just eat it man.

Its for the better good. If he beats you you can say, "ya only did it with my sheet, AND you picked before me" or something like that. If you beat him you can say, "AND you had my sheet"

Will give way to many more drunken nights with your best friend. Thats the way I see it. OR you just print off someone elses cheat sheet and give that to him, though if hes your best friend thats just wrong.

Big difference in being a good FF'er and being a jack ###. This issue is borderline both pending your reaction.

/end, "Im drunk too advice"

 

[Sebowski]

Not a chance. Just print one from espn or something similar for him, or better yet, yell him to his own. Draft isn't until tomorrow. Point him to some sites.

 

[DarkManX]

Modify it a little bit and then give it to him.

 

[Enoch]

I would go to the player ranks here at Footballguys print them out. I give him three or four cheat sheets, other web FF sites espn/yahoo,whatever you can find that is good. He should be find with lots of info printed for him. That way you still help out your friend, with a good list. But not giving him your info/ranks draft board.

 

[SSOG]

I'm in 3 leagues with the same core of guys in all three. We've been playing together for a long time, and are always friends first, competitors second. We had a situation last year where one of the guys had to miss the dynasty draft, so I wound up drafting for him. I did it to the best of my ability and wound up securing him Kevin Smith, Chris Johnson, and Eddie Royal. The Royal pick in particular hurt, since my own pick was two slots later, I knew Royal would fall, and I'd been eying Royal all offseason... but as I said, it's friends first and competitors second. Plus it just made it that much sweeter when I beat him in the superbowl, and now for the next 8 years I can counter any success he might have with "but how good would you be if I hadn't given you Johnson and Royal?".

It's just a question of where your priorities lie. If it's friends first, competitors second, then give him your rankings. If it's competitors first, friends second, then give him the ESPN projections.

 

[Adebisi]

If he beats you you can say, "ya only did it with my sheet, AND you picked before me" or something like that.

for the next 8 years I can counter any success he might have with "but how good would you be if I hadn't given you Johnson and Royal?".

I wouldn't ask someone to do this in the first place, but if I did, and then they acted like sore losers if I won, I would be wishing I hadn't bothered asking. If he's really "friend first and competitor second," why wouldn't you just shake his hand and congratulate him instead of trying to tear him down when he has some success? He'll know that you helped him out. Why the need to act like that?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Being friends doesn't mean you have to give him your draft strategy. Like someone said, go to ESPN or somewhere and print him out a current draft list. If that's not good enough then maybe he should do something for himself.

Then again, you already agreed to it. I don't know why someone would even ask that, and I really don't get why someone would agree. I've helped friends out in their OTHER leagues, but not the one in which I'm competing.

 

[SuperJohn96]

If he beats you you can say, "ya only did it with my sheet, AND you picked before me" or something like that.

for the next 8 years I can counter any success he might have with "but how good would you be if I hadn't given you Johnson and Royal?".

I wouldn't ask someone to do this in the first place, but if I did, and then they acted like sore losers if I won, I would be wishing I hadn't bothered asking. If he's really "friend first and competitor second," why wouldn't you just shake his hand and congratulate him instead of trying to tear him down when he has some success? He'll know that you helped him out. Why the need to act like that?

Because that's what good friends do...torment each other mercilessly...

 

[Arizona Ron]

I would have given him a sheet from ESPN or something.

 

[Obie Wan]

Best friend. We've partnered on a couple FFOC teams. He's led this league in scoring the past 3 seasons. Our live, in person, draft is Wednesday. He asked me to print my projections for him since he won't have a computer for this draft. I told him OK. ####. It's not like he doesn't know which guys I'm high on, but he'll have my exact board in front of him for each of his picks. Over/Under on picks he snipes me on: 5He's my boy. Best Friend. I can't tell him to piss off. I want to dominate this league as it's got the most bragging rights of any of my leagues. But I'm giving away my board. [/end drunken rant]

not sure what the problem is your projections are posted on a public site.he could print them himself, but he asked you to do it since he does not have a computer available for whatever reason.sound like he is playing mind games with you. He wants you to know he has your projections (by having you print them) and he has already thrown you off your game.

 

[Courtjester]

If it was a big money league, no way.

But just a company league, I would have gave it to him with a caveat that he buy my beer all night or something like that.

 

[moleculo]

a true friend would know not to ask for my projections.

 

[gianmarco]

Just list all the players alphabetically. If he starts wondering why Addai is the #1 overall pick, just tell him that he didn't specify you put your cheatsheet in the same order.

 

[wadegarrett]

He asked me to print my projections for him since he won't have a computer for this draft.

Why can't he print his own projections prior to coming to the draft?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Id have no problem telling my best friend to bite it if he wanted my cheatsheet.

 

[Jason Wood]

If he's your best friend Unlucky why can't you tell him to piss off? I'm being serious. It's an occupational hazard for me that my buddies are going to have my projections handy, but were I not on staff I wouldn't hesitate to tell him to find his own cheatsheet. What's the point of competing, even against friends, if you're handing him your playbook?

 

[BINGBING]

A guy I used to work with used to purposely leave phony cheat sheets laying around. Yes, that's right. He actually went through the effort of making fake rankings and would act like he didn't want anyone seeing it....but purposely left it laying around. His real rankings were locked in a file cabinet.

 

[Crusaderfan]

Why don't you ask him what projections he would be printing off if he had a computer, then print them for him. Tell him, it doesn't make sense for him or you to work from the same sheet but you can print off any other thing he wants.

 

[Itchy Amos]

I wouldnt let my friends use my personally modified cheat sheet. I would have no problem telling them no. And they, being friends, wouldnt hold it against me. There arent 11 guys who I want to beat more than the guys in my primary league.

But in this case, whats the difference? I am pretty sure that I have seen your rankings myself. You have them linked in your signature. All they have to do is go to your website.

 

[BassNBrew]

Unlucky...just give him your projections and use someone elses. It will work out to you benefit.

 

[pollardsvision]

Being best friends should make it easier to tell him to piss off.

Just print him off some other projections (or explain to him how printing works).

 

[Nate]

Id have no problem telling my best friend to bite it if he wanted my cheatsheet.

Maybe the whole friend/FF rival dynamic is different with me and my friends, but I'd also mock him for asking (and he'd expect nothing less). But then, my friends would know better than to ask. They also don't ask me to drive for them in a round of golf, or get their girl's motor running. They can see things through from start to finish on their own.ETA: If they'd been at their sick mother's bedside for the last month or something of course I'd help them out. But "no computer"? Forget it. Tell him to email you his projections and you'll be happy to print those.

 

[Phurfur]

Best friend. We've partnered on a couple FFOC teams. He's led this league in scoring the past 3 seasons. Our live, in person, draft is Wednesday. He asked me to print my projections for him since he won't have a computer for this draft. I told him OK. ####.

It's not like he doesn't know which guys I'm high on, but he'll have my exact board in front of him for each of his picks. Over/Under on picks he snipes me on: 5

He's my boy. Best Friend. I can't tell him to piss off.

I want to dominate this league as it's got the most bragging rights of any of my leagues. But I'm giving away my board. [/end drunken rant]

Give me a break, what kind of friend would ask someone to do this? You need a new best friend.

 

[davearm]

The fact that your projections are linked in your sig for anyone to see makes this a very strange thread.

Apparently you're not very protective of the numbers/rankings themselves, so him asking you to print them instead of doing it himself is what's eating at you?

 

[Easy Money]

GIVE HIM ONE OF YOUR OLD MAGAZINES. YOU KNOW YOU BOUGHT ONE TO CHECK OUT A MONTH AGO WHEN THEY CAME OUT. NOT LIKE YOU ARE USING IT ANYWAY. IT'S JUST COLLECTING DUST IN THE BATHROOM NOW.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

The fact that your projections are linked in your sig for anyone to see makes this a very strange thread.Apparently you're not very protective of the numbers/rankings themselves, so him asking you to print them instead of doing it himself is what's eating at you?

Was just going to post this exact same thing.For all you know, he's been using your projections for years and/or so has everyone else in your league. If they are publicly available, why hide them? If you want them hidden, why make them publicly available?

 

[Obie Wan]

The fact that your projections are linked in your sig for anyone to see makes this a very strange thread.Apparently you're not very protective of the numbers/rankings themselves, so him asking you to print them instead of doing it himself is what's eating at you?

Was just going to post this exact same thing.For all you know, he's been using your projections for years and/or so has everyone else in your league. If they are publicly available, why hide them? If you want them hidden, why make them publicly available?

this whole thread is just a lame ### attempt to drive some traffic to his website.

 

[Dought Man]

Give him that phony FBG fake cheatsheet from 2 years ago. He'll likely be securing Jerome Bettis in round 2... hilarity will ensue.

 

[Zoomanji]

Give him this

 

[Dexter Manley]

Yea, I don't get this at all. If one of my BFF's asks me for my cheatsheet/rankings/projections, first I mock them. Then I tell them they can have them as long as they pay my entry fee for the league. Haven't had any takers yet.

I also make a point to let everyone know at the draft that they can each ask me one question (about injuries, who's starting, my opinion on a player, etc.), but after 1 freebie I charge $5 per question.

Now, if they honestly need a list of players, I'll be a good samaritan and print them off something from espn or cnnsi.com.

 

[ichris]

Best friend or not, they know better than to ask me for my cheat sheets. I'm more than willing to talk to them during the draft and offer some advice, but no way am I giving them my drafting blue print.

 

[Unlucky]

your projections are posted on a public site.he could print them himself, but he asked you to do it since he does not have a computer available for whatever reason.

Yeah, I realized this morning that I post my projections online anyway. I was just a bit tipsy last night, is all.

 

[Unlucky]

Unlucky...just give him your projections and use someone elses. It will work out to you benefit.

Can I have yours?

 

[Sylira21]

Unlucky...just give him your projections and use someone elses. It will work out to you benefit.

This made me spray cheetos all over my computer.

 

[Righetti]

give him Chase Stuart's rankings..

that'll show 'em

 

[buck naked]

If the guy has led your league in scoring the past 3 years, I don't know why he'd ask you for YOUR cheatsheets in the first place. I would say, "why would you want them, cause you are so good without them" or "you've beaten me the last 3 years without them, now you want to beat me this year WITH them?" and hope he stopped asking.

If that doesn't work, them I'd give them to him and tell him he owes he a few beers after the draft.

 

[Killerclown]

If you have to give him a copy, it must be a modified version.

 

[SSOG]

If he beats you you can say, "ya only did it with my sheet, AND you picked before me" or something like that.

for the next 8 years I can counter any success he might have with "but how good would you be if I hadn't given you Johnson and Royal?".

I wouldn't ask someone to do this in the first place, but if I did, and then they acted like sore losers if I won, I would be wishing I hadn't bothered asking. If he's really "friend first and competitor second," why wouldn't you just shake his hand and congratulate him instead of trying to tear him down when he has some success? He'll know that you helped him out. Why the need to act like that?

Have you ever been in a league with friends? Are you familiar with the concept of trash talk? Tearing someone down when they have some success is at the core of any friendly league, whether we helped them or not. For instance, when someone gets a little too drunk on his own success, it's time to casually (read: repeatedly) remind him of the time he took Michael Vick with the #1 overall draft pick in 2003.What do people say they're playing for in free leagues? Bragging rights!

 

[Coboney]

If its a fun league with friends for bragging rights type thing - give it to him. I know every year there's one or two people who mooch mine and I get to tease them mercylessly on it and normally win.

Overlooked here a lot is that so much of the rankings is the thought process behind it. Why you have a player, who you like and so forth that makes it work.