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Frustrating things about this game we love (1 Viewer)

Raider Nation

Raider Nation

Devil's Advocate
I'm talkin' about things that just make you want to take a crowbar and destroy your TV. I'll go first.

Runner on first with nobody out. 3-2 count on the batter. Next pitch, foul ball on a pitch WAY out of the strike zone. Would/should have been two on with 0 outs. Next pitch, right on cue... double-play ball.

Makes me f##king homicidal.

 
Next: guys who makes a bazillion dollars yet cannot be bothered to hustle even a little bit.

(Also known as "Pulling a Cano"...)

 
Raider Nation said:
Next: guys who makes a bazillion dollars yet cannot be bothered to hustle even a little bit.

(Also known as "Pulling a Cano"...)
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With you. Any Brandon Phillips ground ball with a man on 1st is a DP because he has no interest in even jogging to 1st. That's a slow pitch softball move. Also...Guy at 3rd 1 out where that run would end the game. 2 strikes on the batter and he is still taking massive hacks for the fences. Huh?

 
The guy behind the plate during the Dodgers/Padres game today constantly waiving his arm to try and get on TV. He should not only be ejected from the stadium, but he should be banned for life from every major league baseball stadium.

 
fans sitting behind you that think they know everything about the game.......but don't know jack ####.

Mustaches(on wiminz) at the ballpark(US CELLULAR)

 
Pitchers that throw hittable pitches on 0-2 counts and hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.

 
I could do without manager visits to the ump.

I realize coaches need to work refs/umps in all sports, but baseball needs to come up with a better way. In other sports, coaches don't go out onto the middle of the field/court to work the refs DURING gameplay.

Very odd that the slowest of the major sports, and one where there are at least 18 (and usually 22+) non-TV related long breaks in gameplay, is the sport that accepts this non-sense.

Hell, unlike other sports, baseball managers really don't have anything else to do during breaks in the action. Football and baseball coaches actually have to work during timeouts, and they still find time to get much of the ref #####ing out of the way.

No excuse for a baseball manager not to get all that taken care of between innings.

Well, except Leyland, though I'd be fine with MLB letting him smoke his heater on the field between innings, if he's getting his ump #####ing out of the way in the process.

 
pollardsvision said:
I could do without manager visits to the ump.

I realize coaches need to work refs/umps in all sports, but baseball needs to come up with a better way. In other sports, coaches don't go out onto the middle of the field/court to work the refs DURING gameplay.

Very odd that the slowest of the major sports, and one where there are at least 18 (and usually 22+) non-TV related long breaks in gameplay, is the sport that accepts this non-sense.

Hell, unlike other sports, baseball managers really don't have anything else to do during breaks in the action. Football and baseball coaches actually have to work during timeouts, and they still find time to get much of the ref #####ing out of the way.

No excuse for a baseball manager not to get all that taken care of between innings.

Well, except Leyland, though I'd be fine with MLB letting him smoke his heater on the field between innings, if he's getting his ump #####ing out of the way in the process.
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I am not sure I follow the logic here. It is not during the play the manager comes on the field, but when the ball is dead. In every sport the coach/manager starts vocalizing his displeasure immediately after a blown call. You can't wait to try to correct an error after the inning is over.

 
jon_mx said:
pollardsvision said:
I could do without manager visits to the ump.

I realize coaches need to work refs/umps in all sports, but baseball needs to come up with a better way. In other sports, coaches don't go out onto the middle of the field/court to work the refs DURING gameplay.

Very odd that the slowest of the major sports, and one where there are at least 18 (and usually 22+) non-TV related long breaks in gameplay, is the sport that accepts this non-sense.

Hell, unlike other sports, baseball managers really don't have anything else to do during breaks in the action. Football and baseball coaches actually have to work during timeouts, and they still find time to get much of the ref #####ing out of the way.

No excuse for a baseball manager not to get all that taken care of between innings.

Well, except Leyland, though I'd be fine with MLB letting him smoke his heater on the field between innings, if he's getting his ump #####ing out of the way in the process.
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I am not sure I follow the logic here. It is not during the play the manager comes on the field, but when the ball is dead. In every sport the coach/manager starts vocalizing his displeasure immediately after a blown call. You can't wait to try to correct an error after the inning is over.
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True, play stops when the manager comes out onto the field. But that's not a scheduled break in the action. MLB has 18 of those plus numerous pitching changes. Instead, they stop gameplay that would otherwise proceed forward.

Nobody could imagine the NBA regularly suspending play, so that Pop could walk out to mid-court and give Joey Crawford an earful. It would be ridiculous, and he'd get tossed before he uttered his first word.

NBA and NFL coaches pretty much get to ##### at refs the entire game, but fans can actually watch a game without ever really noticing. They don't do something stupid, like stop the game for it.

MLB managers need to scream a little louder, but they can do their #####ing from the dugout steps.

And we all know it isn't about correcting an error, so doing it immediately isn't really necessary. If it can be reviewed, it'll get reviewed. If one ump isn't sure, he'll defer to another.

But a manager coming out on to the field isn't going to get a call overturned. It's just basic working the ump to try to get calls in the future and, apparently, to fire up the team.

I am, however, fine with coach getting tossed on purpose. Bad call, there's no recourse, and the coach feels the need to lose his ####, go for it. I get it. But let's just make it quicker. Toss them as soon as they leave the dugout, if they are going to ##### at an ump during the game. If fans need to see the dog and pony show, just put a camera in the clubhouse to watch the coach break some chairs or something after getting tossed.

I just don't want to watch a manager argue for a few minutes over a call that will never, ever be overturned.

 
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The All Star game

Why does a game, where the players are chosen by the fans, decide home field advantage for the World Series? Stupid!!!!

 
Greco said:
hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.
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Good one. Drives me freakin nuts.

I get the theory that a pitcher is likely to groove one to try to get ahead after walking a batter, but unless it was the best hitter on your team that he just walked on four straight pitches, chances are he's having serious control issues. Don't help him out. And the BONUS is when that same guy swings at the first pitch after a 4-pitch walk and proceeds to hit into a deuce. Makes you insane.

 
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The fact that pitchers can't hit.

I know the reasoning why, but it makes so little sense that the guy that you know was the best hitter on his Little League team, high school team, and even college team looks completely helpless at the plate.

 
Raider Nation said:
Greco said:
hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.
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Good one. Drives me freakin nuts.

I get the theory that a pitcher is likely to groove one to try to get ahead after walking a batter, but unless it was the best hitter on your team that he just walked on four straight pitches, chances are he's having serious control issues. Don't help him out. And the BONUS is when that same guy swings at the first pitch after a 4-pitch walk and proceeds to hit into a deuce. Makes you insane.
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aka the Jhonny Peralta

 
Pitchers batting

HOF voting

The nonsensical debate over whether scouting or sabermetrics are more important (let's just say both have their place and be done with it, please)

Fans who go to their seats during the action and therefore standup in front of me during the action...wait until between innings you heathens

Fans sitting in front of me who are getting to their seat right as the first pitch of the game is thrown and therefore cause me to miss it

 
Raider Nation said:
Greco said:
hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.
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Good one. Drives me freakin nuts.

I get the theory that a pitcher is likely to groove one to try to get ahead after walking a batter, but unless it was the best hitter on your team that he just walked on four straight pitches, chances are he's having serious control issues. Don't help him out. And the BONUS is when that same guy swings at the first pitch after a 4-pitch walk and proceeds to hit into a deuce. Makes you insane.
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:confused:

Usually right after a 4 pitch walk the pitcher serves up a dinner ball on the first pitch. :completelyunsubstantiatedbyanyfacts:

 
Hitters leaving the batters box after every pitch to tighten gloves, play with their bat, fiddle with their cleats, spit on their hands... It takes so much time and is very annoying to watch over and over.

Jeter, Cano and Papi are the biggest offenders of this.

 
avoiding injuries said:
Hitters leaving the batters box after every pitch to tighten gloves, play with their bat, fiddle with their cleats, spit on their hands... It takes so much time and is very annoying to watch over and over.

Jeter, Cano and Papi are the biggest offenders of this.
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Started with Mike Hargrove (The Human Rain Delay)Nosemar Garciaparra and his OCD took it to another level.

 
Cliff Clavin said:
Raider Nation said:
Greco said:
hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.
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Good one. Drives me freakin nuts.

I get the theory that a pitcher is likely to groove one to try to get ahead after walking a batter, but unless it was the best hitter on your team that he just walked on four straight pitches, chances are he's having serious control issues. Don't help him out. And the BONUS is when that same guy swings at the first pitch after a 4-pitch walk and proceeds to hit into a deuce. Makes you insane.
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:confused:

Usually right after a 4 pitch walk the pitcher serves up a dinner ball on the first pitch. :completelyunsubstantiatedbyanyfacts:
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Not my theory. But some people believe it.
 
Raider Nation said:
Cliff Clavin said:
Raider Nation said:
Greco said:
hitters that swing at the first pitch when the guy hitting in front of him just walked on four straight balls.
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Good one. Drives me freakin nuts.

I get the theory that a pitcher is likely to groove one to try to get ahead after walking a batter, but unless it was the best hitter on your team that he just walked on four straight pitches, chances are he's having serious control issues. Don't help him out. And the BONUS is when that same guy swings at the first pitch after a 4-pitch walk and proceeds to hit into a deuce. Makes you insane.
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:confused:

Usually right after a 4 pitch walk the pitcher serves up a dinner ball on the first pitch. :completelyunsubstantiatedbyanyfacts:
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Not my theory. But some people believe it.
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I would think it depends on the situation because not all 4-pitch walks are the same.

PItcher lost on a couple 50/50 calls, got behind, and decided to pitch around the batter? Maybe he's more likely to groove one to start the next AB.

Or maybe the guy just showed he'll nibble before he'll risk throwing a meatball. Or maybe not.

Oh hell, I don't know.

 
This one might be subtle, but if there is a runner on first/first and second and two out, don't swing at a 3-1 pitch ... unless it's the fattest pitch ever, and even then, don't. Let those runners get moving.

 
Dickie Dunn said:
This one might be subtle, but if there is a runner on first/first and second and two out, don't swing at a 3-1 pitch ... unless it's the fattest pitch ever, and even then, don't. Let those runners get moving.
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I'd rather they go ahead and take advantage of the great count they've worked themselves into. They are generally going to drop their batting average by about .130 points by giving away that strike. I don't know the percentage of 3-1 swings that result in 3-2 anyway, but I'd imagine it's quite significant.

So, I'd rather take a better than average chance of a 3-run swing with the chance of getting to 3-2 anyway.

 
When turning a double play and 2B tosses it to SS, SS grazes the bag with his cleat, THEN catches the ball (with cleat no longer in contact with bag), and then throws to 1B and a DP is awarded.

 
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1 - Umps that remove balls from play, just because it was thrown by the pitcher and it hit the dirt.

Question: If they remove those types of balls, why don't they remove the baseball when the batter HITS it into the infield dirt?

.....or when a fielder makes a bad throw to first and 1-hops it to the 1st baseman?

2 - Everyone knows it is a balk for a pitcher to fake a throw to first with a runner on........but why is it OK to step and not throw to Second or Third Base when a runner occupies that base?

Who decided this rule?..........why not just make the rule, "if you attempt a pickoff, you must throw to that base?" (this would speed up the game a little)

 
Nemesis said:
1 - Umps that remove balls from play, just because it was thrown by the pitcher and it hit the dirt.

Question: If they remove those types of balls, why don't they remove the baseball when the batter HITS it into the infield dirt?

.....or when a fielder makes a bad throw to first and 1-hops it to the 1st baseman
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These balls do get removed from play most of the time nowadays.
 
Raider Nation said:
avoiding injuries said:
Hitters leaving the batters box after every pitch to tighten gloves, play with their bat, fiddle with their cleats, spit on their hands... It takes so much time and is very annoying to watch over and over.

Jeter, Cano and Papi are the biggest offenders of this.
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Started with Mike Hargrove (The Human Rain Delay)Nosemar Garciaparra and his OCD took it to another level.
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I never realized just how bad gritty, gutty little Pedroia is with this.

After EVERY pitch, take 3 steps backwards, stretch your stupid face. un-velcro and then re-velcro both batting gloves, stare at the bat, stretch your stupid face again, extend arms so the jersey feels good...... step back into box.

 
rodg12 said:
Nemesis said:
1 - Umps that remove balls from play, just because it was thrown by the pitcher and it hit the dirt.

Question: If they remove those types of balls, why don't they remove the baseball when the batter HITS it into the infield dirt?

.....or when a fielder makes a bad throw to first and 1-hops it to the 1st baseman
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These balls do get removed from play most of the time nowadays.
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They just get rubbed down and are put back in the rotation.
 
When you record the third out in an inning and the inning does not end (see you make the call thread) and other asinine rules.

 
Bob Loblaw said:
collective said:
Bob Loblaw said:
When turning a double play and 2B tosses it to SS, SS grazes the bag with his cleat, THEN catches the ball (with cleat no longer in contact with bag), and then throws to 1B and a DP is awarded.
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The phantom DP has been around for decades.
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Does that make it ok?
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The reason they allow it is to avoid injuries, allowing the shortstop to get a step out of the base paths before releasing the ball gives him a clear path to first without taking off the head of the runner.

 
Lack of instant replay. I know there are implementation challenges but it seems like many games I watch have an issue. I remember the opener this year (Rangers/Astros?). By the third inning, we had an outfielder trap a ball (called an out), a blown call on a stolen base, and one other issue that escapes me now...

Just get the call right!

 
While we're on stupid baseball announcer phrases:

"Fly ball, deep centerfield... Gardner is on his horse and he makes the catch!"

:rolleyes:

I've never once seen a horse on a baseball field, unless you count Bartolo Colon.

 
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