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Full EOTG (AFC and NFC) now available (1 Viewer)

Jene Bramel

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For those of you new to FBG, John Norton's Eyes of the Guru has been the standard offseason IDP report for over ten seasons. EOTG breaks down every position in depth for every team and offers a one line summary take of any meaningful defensive player rostered by each team. Plenty more to come from the IDP crew this offseason, but this is a great way to kick off the training camp phase of the NFL season.

AFC -- July 25

NFC -- Aug 7

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Ahhhh, I feel so much better now that this is out. I just scanned it for all my possible keepers, will read more in depth as time permits. I think this is my 6th or 7th year sitting down with the EOTG and it alone truely is worth the FBG subscription.

John, one request....

Please publish and a quick update to each article say by the 3rd week of August. Doesn't need to be extensive (unless you want to) but just something like an update on injuries or guys that are no longer projected to start, things like that. So if you projected a guy as a solid #2 starter but now looks to be just good depth, I'd want to see that update.

Thanks and keep up the good work to all the IDP team here at FBGs!

 
Nice article, but I hope the DJ Williams "Depth at best" line was just a

misprint. If not, you have lost a good deal of creditability in my mind.

 
Nice article, but I hope the DJ Williams "Depth at best" line was just a misprint. If not, you have lost a good deal of creditability in my mind.
He did give a reason (previous season tackle numbers at that position) but I agree with you to a point. The one thing which struck me was that it is obviously designed for fairly small IDP league, ie not 53+ player types as the CBs don't seem to get a lot of merit.Overall a very, very impressive effort.
 
Totally agree with the afore mentioned posters.Good Stuff and a must read for all IDP players :bye: :thumbup:
Makes you want the NFC version even more. Except for the Odell references a great read. Still somewhat shocked Goodell didn't explain his decision.
 
Nice article, but I hope the DJ Williams "Depth at best" line was just a misprint. If not, you have lost a good deal of creditability in my mind.
He did give a reason (previous season tackle numbers at that position) but I agree with you to a point. The one thing which struck me was that it is obviously designed for fairly small IDP league, ie not 53+ player types as the CBs don't seem to get a lot of merit.Overall a very, very impressive effort.
It's written for the "standard" IPD league where you don't break out DT/DE and CB/S. So you have combined DL, LB, DB positions. You will see he notes this with several players like for a CB he might say "Decent depth or #1 starter in corner required leagues". So he does make note for those leagues that break out the positions.Also I believe he assumes a 12 team league, 3 starters per position. He's pretty spot on for my 12 team league in which we start 3 DL, 4 LB and 4 DB.
 
Nice article, but I hope the DJ Williams "Depth at best" line was just a

misprint. If not, you have lost a good deal of creditability in my mind.
He did give a reason (previous season tackle numbers at that position) but I agree with you to a point. The one thing which struck me was that it is obviously designed for fairly small IDP league, ie not 53+ player types as the CBs don't seem to get a lot of merit.Overall a very, very impressive effort.
Although not a frequent poster in the forum, Norton knows this thread exists and hopefully he'll be along to address some of the posts this weekend.The NAFFA league he bases his determination of value on is linked in the article. The league starts 2DL/3LB/3DB with an active roster size of 32 players and 3 player taxi squad. The scoring system is weighted toward tackles. I agree that the "depth at best" comment doesn't match the #17 overall ranking.

I'm not disputing John's claim that the official scorer is stingy with solos. I'm certainly one of DJ Williams' biggest champions around here, so take the following with the appropriate grain of kosher salt.

Al Wilson's home/road splits from 2002-2006

Ian Gold's home/road splits from 2002-2006

DJ Williams' home/road splits from 2002-2006

Other than the big road advantage in 2002, there's no difference in home/away solo tackle splits in any season after factoring for PPG for Wilson or Gold. There is a split for Williams in 2004 and 2005, which I'd argue is just as likely to be due to the higher likelihood that a good team like Denver played the nickel more often at home than on the road. Notice that there is no split in 2004, when Williams did play in the nickel with Gold in Tampa Bay.

While there may be a solo tackle bias, it seems it would have to hold for road games as well. With SD, OAK and KC linebackers all putting up solid numbers in recent seasons, that argument is tough to support as well.

2006 1020 total plays (11th most) / 447 rushing attempts (19th most) >>> Wilson 84 proj solos

2005 985 total plays (20th most) / 344 rushing attempts (32nd most) >>> Wilson 66 proj solos

2004 918 total plays (31st most) / 396 rushing attempts (30th most) >>> Wilson 77 proj solos

I think this data is more likely the reason for Wilson's relatively weak solo tackle output. The Broncos have been in the bottom half of rush attempts against and faced significantly less than the NFL average in 2004 and 2005. Wilson's tackle numbers seem to track nicely with rushing attempts against. While this is anecdotal evidence -- I don't know if there's a clear statistical correlation between rushing attempts faced and MLB solo tackles -- I think it's worth considering.

The Denver rush defense has been in decline. The defensive tackle situation may have been addressed, but the LB unit is weaker without Wilson and the safety group is old, coming off injury and thin. I think the Broncos finish at least in the middle of the pack again in 2007 in rush attempts against. With the change in scheme, I certainly think it's reasonable to expect 90 plus solos from Williams. Williams may not hit the 110 plus that Zach Thomas produced in a similar scheme due to scoring inconsistencies, he's still a safe bet to be the best boxscore Denver LB in recent memory.

 
WLB Jon Beason -Minimal value at best

Was this written prior to his contract being signed or do you not like him in CAR?

 
Nice article, but I hope the DJ Williams "Depth at best" line was just a misprint. If not, you have lost a good deal of creditability in my mind.
He did give a reason (previous season tackle numbers at that position) but I agree with you to a point. The one thing which struck me was that it is obviously designed for fairly small IDP league, ie not 53+ player types as the CBs don't seem to get a lot of merit.Overall a very, very impressive effort.
Thank you, and yes the DJ as depth only was a misprint. My apologies on that one. I probably should have pointed out base for my comments as far as league size. There are a lot of leagues going to deeper starting lineups but I base the EOTG on our FBG IDP league and my NAFFA league that has been running for about 12 years. In those leagues the starting lineup is 2 DL, 3 LB and 3 DB.
 
WLB Jon Beason -Minimal value at best

Was this written prior to his contract being signed or do you not like him in CAR?
EEK! That one falls into the same category as the DJ Williams thing. Too many late nights in a row trying to get this done on time. It was simply an oversite. I am actually very high on Beason as the article would attest.
 
I think the problem with Beason is you have him listed twice. You may want to look at "Fantasy Prospects" for the Carolina Panthers. you do not have one for the DL but list the LB twice. AWESOME READ AND GREAT INFO

 
I fixed the DJ Williams and Jon Beason snafu. Thanks for pointing those out.

Someone mentioned the reference to Odell Thurman. Obviously the article was written before the decision came down. The Bengals were even more stunned than the rest of us. What I wanted to mention is that Landon Johnson is currently working at WLB ahead of Hartwell and we shouldn't be surprised if it stays that way. Bump Johnson up to backup status. He led the club in tackles last season.

Best of luck to you all,

 
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HI JOHN

thanks for the update.

you mistakenly took out the CAR DL Fantasy Prospects.

You have the LB's twice.

 
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I fixed the DJ Williams and Jon Beason snafu. Thanks for pointing those out.

Someone mentioned the reference to Odell Thurman. Obviously the article was written before the decision came down. The Bengals were even more stunned that the rest of us. What I wanted to mention is that Landon Johnson is currently working at WLB ahead of Hartwell and we shouldn't be surprised if it stays that way. Bump Johnson up to backup status. He led the club in tackles last season.

Best of luck to you all,
They sure were. Goodell could have given some kind of explanation though.

Thanks for the writeups.

 
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HI JOHN thanks for the update.you mistakenly took out the CAR DL Fantasy Prospects.You have the LB's twice.
Ahh.. That is what happens when you rely on the boss to handle something like that. I wrote the edit and he put it in the wrong place :excited: Thanks for the heads up, I'll try it again.
 
I think this data is more likely the reason for Wilson's relatively weak solo tackle output. The Broncos have been in the bottom half of rush attempts against and faced significantly less than the NFL average in 2004 and 2005. Wilson's tackle numbers seem to track nicely with rushing attempts against. While this is anecdotal evidence -- I don't know if there's a clear statistical correlation between rushing attempts faced and MLB solo tackles -- I think it's worth considering.
Tell you what JB, If DJ puts up 90+ solo tackles I'll treat you to dinner at your favirite fast food joint. If he totals less than 90 Burger King is on you. :unsure:What do ya think?
 
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I think this data is more likely the reason for Wilson's relatively weak solo tackle output. The Broncos have been in the bottom half of rush attempts against and faced significantly less than the NFL average in 2004 and 2005. Wilson's tackle numbers seem to track nicely with rushing attempts against. While this is anecdotal evidence -- I don't know if there's a clear statistical correlation between rushing attempts faced and MLB solo tackles -- I think it's worth considering.
Tell you what JB, If DJ puts up 90+ solo tackles I'll treat you to dinner at your favirite fast food joint. If he totals less than 90 Burger King is on you. :boxing:What do ya think?
:) Assuming no injuries, I'll have this locked up before I knock you out of the playoffs...again. :lmao:MMMM....Whopper with cheese. :homer:
 
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Assuming no injuries, I'll have this locked up before I knock you out of the playoffs...again. :excited:MMMM....Whopper with cheese. :homer:
Obviously an injury would get you off the hook. Yes you were 2-1 against me in playoff games last year. Enjoy it while you can. Payback time is just around the corner :X I'm thinking triple stacker combo. I'm sure to work up an apetite while I'm kicking your tail :yes:
 
Finished the NFC half on the plane yesterday... great stuff yet again.

Forward, not foreword.

 
I think this data is more likely the reason for Wilson's relatively weak solo tackle output. The Broncos have been in the bottom half of rush attempts against and faced significantly less than the NFL average in 2004 and 2005. Wilson's tackle numbers seem to track nicely with rushing attempts against. While this is anecdotal evidence -- I don't know if there's a clear statistical correlation between rushing attempts faced and MLB solo tackles -- I think it's worth considering.
Tell you what JB, If DJ puts up 90+ solo tackles I'll treat you to dinner at your favirite fast food joint. If he totals less than 90 Burger King is on you. :boxing:What do ya think?
:lmao: Assuming no injuries, I'll have this locked up before I knock you out of the playoffs...again. :hot:MMMM....Whopper with cheese. :homer:
:banned:JB = :homer: :loco: ;)
 

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